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I've been really looking forward to playing this but I gotta agree with everyone on the price. Way too high for what it offers. I'll wait till it's around 20 quid.

@dodgykebaab shipped is the most accurate number to use. We don't exactly how many have been sold at any time.

@SeaDaVie exactly. I've been saying it for a while. Sony can afford to release AAA games, even if they make a small profit, because they will lead to far more profit from third party games, subs and MTX.

@LifeGirl Did you watch the video?

1:18. He's right there.

@Gr8VngnzN4esAngr I don't know. Mario, perhaps?

@PuppetMaster who is angry and offended here exactly?

I keep forgetting how bad many ps3 looked back in the day. These remasters do nothing for me. Had it been a remake, I'd be all over it.

@TenakaF I have to strongly disagree. Sony's biggest misstep that has cost them dearly so far is investing so much money and time on GaaS. Take that out and they're doing amazing. Their model of business worked perfectly up until then.

Too many games cancelled, too many teams disbanded that didn't release anything and their whole work was wasted. That's likely billions of losses. So, no. It's not that releasing exclusives is not sustainable.

@TrollOfWar "So you are saying that the lack of Xbox competition resulted in people moving to PlayStation or PC (on PC they can play both XB and PS games)? Did PlayStation have less or more console exclusive games (1st and 3rd party) compared to the previous generation and how strong was the appeal of those games?"

Like I said, simplistic. It leaves out a ton of factors. For example, how many original IPs did they release compared to the previous generation? How well did they sell? How much did the library of the average ps gamer grow? Also, when a company makes a wrong decision, consumers don't always react instantly. Many are considering not getting a ps6, for example.

"Are you implying that PS5 sales numbers would be higher without the stock issues? Or did it even out with the associated hype after the stock issues were resolved."

I'm not implying anything. I'm listing a factor you left out. We don't know if sales would be higher or lower without the stock issues. But to overlook how it may have affected sales is erroneous.

"The price of the PS4 dropped from $ 399 to $ 299 three years after it's launch and the PS4 Pro launched at the same price as the original PS4 price. The PS5 in it's 5 years didn't have any permanent price drops in the US, had price hikes in many other regions and the PS5 Pro launched at $ 699. Does the PS5 lack of price reductions have an impact on the adoption rate of the console? How is the inflation impacting the sales numbers?"

Of course the high price of ps5 is a considerable factor. So is that the market is supposedly expanding. More and more 40+ year olds are gamers as opposed to years or decades ago. PS sales could have been much higher once stock issues were resolved, but for various reasons are slower than ps4's.

My entire point was based on remarks that people have made on push square over the years. They claim that they're leaving ps for many reasons, the most important for them being that they can't justify spending 500+ USD for a console whose exclusives are no longer exclusive.

So, to return to your initial point. No, you can't use potential sales of ps games on xbx consoles as the only criterion when deciding an overall company strategy.

@AdamNovice Can you imagine?

Ronaldo, obviously.

@TrollOfWar that's not how you analyze data. There are so many factors that you don't take into account, including the lack of competition from xbx compared to previous generations. Also, the fact that ps5 was constantly out of stock (like Wii back in the day) and thus became the hot item that everyone wanted but couldn't get (too many comedy shows and people on social media made jokes about it). There are several other reasons, but these are just some of the many.

@get2sammyb I really don't see how it could be a bad thing. Especially when it's just the second game. Like, if they didn't like the first one, fair enough. But if they enjoyed it, surely they'd be looking forward to more of a good thing?

@TrollOfWar we obviously don't know it. We surmise. Plenty of people are already leaving ps and xb and moving to PC. you hardly hear that about Nintendo, since they haven't ported any of their exclusives. Should Sony give those dissatisfied with ps a final push?

@TrollOfWar that doesn't take into account how this would decrease sales of ps consoles with that the 30% cut they get from each third party game, including MTX.

If Sony don't care about their brand, they absolutely should port everything, including single player games.

@pharos_haven my thoughts exactly. Which is a good thing we read the negatives instead of focusing entirely on the score given.

I started the first season with my best friend last year. We only watched 2 episodes, I think, but were planning on picking up again as we had a blast. Now that he's moved to a new country I guess I won't be watching it after all.

@TruestoryYep what are you even on about? Most companies wish they could perform as well as Capcom.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner that's a very good point. Unfortunately, MS won't tell us, so it's impossible to say with certainty. Oh, well.

@PsBoxSwitchOwner considering how much first party games like CoD cost, I highly doubt they're making much profit or else they'd say that. There is a reason they brag about revenue instead of profit in a earnings call.

@Oprahs_cellulite "I think most gamers are over looking the fact that Sony and Microsoft aren't interested in releasing Triple A Games anymore they aren't very profitable."

Pretty sure that's not a fact.

Exclusives sell consoles. Even if, unlike Nintendo gamers, most ps gamers don't buy first party games, they are a good reason to justify their purchase. It's not about making huge profits from the AAA games themselves, but bringing enough people to your platform. Same with hardware.
(btw this also not a fact, just my opinion)

Impossible. Didn’t internet people tell them the show is terrible?

If done right, it could be amazing. I'm cautiously optimistic.

@SeaDaVie exactly. Also, a great actor, imo, though there are many better options for Kratos.

@LifeGirl Could be worse. Like Chris Pratt.

@PuppetMaster it's especially true if you treat gamers as a monolith, when in fact we're all different and one's views do not necessarily represent mine put you apply them to everyone regardless.

@Th3solution yup. That's what I meant. It was clear exaggeration to attract clicks, which I find annoying especially in this time and age where any serious journalism is pretty much dead.

@DreadfulDragon (saw your second post). Indeed, what do academics know compared to the average online person? I'll trust any time of the day a random guy over people whose methodology is constantly scrutinized by their academic peers.

@Kienda "The two are a correlation."

Indeed, because in Red States in the US where the teach abstinence instead of sex ed, they have significantly higher numbers of teen pregnancies.

"I’m not saying children shouldn’t be taught sex education. But when you hand out free condoms to minors and tell them to experiment. They will. And it is absolutely bonkers in my opinion."

Couldn't disagree more. Studies show most young people have unprotected sex. Also, even worse, like 50% (if memory serves) film it, so there is that...

@DreadfulDragon is that in your professional opinion? There are already peer-reviewed studies that show exactly how harmful it is.

@OldGamer999 "Actually they could make more money putting their top AAA games on switch 2 than messing around making their own hand held type device."

"But let’s not forget I said the older games like the both I mentioned are PS4 games. "

Huh?

@Neither_scene the thing is, everyone is different. Plenty of people are happy to wait longer, if they know they can get something for “free”, for example.

@lazymike you forgot, it’s like switch, but with good hardware

@Flaming_Kaiser that's another good point. I didn't even think about that.

@Fyz306903 for Sony or for ps players?

@OldGamer999 yeah, no. This will only tell gamers that they need a Switch 2 to get all the best games and that there is no need to spend huge amounts of money to buy the next ps console.

@IOI was it the same people? If so, name them. If not, you're just generalizing. Taking one thing some ps gamers said and applying to all of us so that you can claim we're moving the goalpost.

If they start porting single player games, they'll shoot themselves in the foot and give Nintendo an easy win.

So many mistakes this generation.

@Fiendish-Beaver cheers! Good to know

@Kingy sure, buddy.

@Oram77 lesson, hopefully learned. If a post is vague in your opinion, ask someone what they mean. Don't make assumptions about them.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare thanks for clarifying.

@Oram77 @Oz_Who_Dat_Dare there is no deflection at all. Stop making assumptions about others. I've never played the game nor am I interested in Star Wars at all. I'm specifically talking about the clear exaggeration. The game didn't sell well enough to be a success, but it wasn't a "colossal flop". Games like Concord were. Perhaps also Mindseye.

If it was a "colossal flop", how would you describe Concord exactly?

I actually quite like the idea. It goes to show how much effort it takes to make it as opposed to a movie script, for example.

@Darude84 pretty sure it's supposed to be a joke.

@dodgykebaab that's not what DEI is, but ok.

@Lup "Any publicity is good publicity."

Indeed. It seems to have worked so well for all games that got any publicity, including Concord.