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We're reaching levels of cruelty that shouldn't even be possible.

@Boxmonkey same here. One of the very few games I bought day 1

I love it when people say make a good game and it will sell. This was a failure while Roblox a massive success…

I don't mind it either way, but I feel like people will have strong opinions on something incredibly trivial.

@Splash_Woman considering that they're offering 4 games, 3 of which don't require a PSVR2, focusing on that 1 is... a choice. Also, if they're fans, of course they'll have a ps5 by now.

@RudeAnimat0r agreed. It's not unreasonable at all. But that's the case for most games from my experience. They say for example, 1-4 players, but you have to look up what that means. 4 players for the entire game? Some sections? Can some join locally and others online? Does it also have bots? Etc...

But, again, a section where it's clearly stated would be much appreciated.

I just gave it a try and I find myself quite enjoying it. It's definitely a decent game, though I'd argue that had not been a God of War spinoff, it would have been completely forgettable.

@Theamazing1 who says they need to buy it immediately? If local co-op from the beginning is a deal breaker to people, they can wait a day or two to make sure it's actually worth their money.

Are we really at a point that doing the most basic research before buying something is too much to ask nowadays? I grew up in a country where refunds weren't a thing unless a product was faulty. If we made a mistake, we learned to be more careful before buying something next time.

@LieutenantFatman it does and I'm glad you have no issue.

@RudeAnimat0r it's the case with most videogames, hence the existence of sites like co-optimus (https://www.co-optimus.com/). Some games offer co-op from a certain point of the story on, some only for certain modes, some local only, some online only, etc. A simple google search is all it takes.

@Theamazing1 yes, why shouldn't people look up the item they're about to purchase. It's definitely the company's fault.

We're truly doomed as a society.

I mostly enjoy games in local co op. So before I buy any game, I simply look up what that co-op entails. Crazy thought. I know

The sheer entitlement of some people. Because looking up what the co-op entails is too much to ask.

I bought it to play with my best friend. I’ll try to beat it before he comes to visit so that we can experience the challenge mode together.

@Boxmonkey actually, when it's by a guy who only lives to complain, they don't hold any water.

What an absolute embarrassment he has become.

Can't stress enough how much I miss their Naruto games :/

@CWill97 same here. After playing the first one, I'm really disappointed they skipped ps5.

@UltimateOtaku91 I think it keeps growing the more time they spend online because they see other people expressing similar view with just as much vitriol if not more, so they begin to think it's how one should conduct oneself.

I don't play GaaS games either, but continuously bashing them makes no sense to me. If they fail (which they have so far, Helldivers II being the exception), Sony will stop investing in them. Simple as that. They already have cancelled most of the ones they had in development.

Managed to beat Halls of Torment two days ago and now I'm trying to unlock everything else and get the remaining trophies. Such a great game. Highly recommended to anyone who enjoyed Vampire Survivors.

@Onearmbandit yeah, I also greatly enjoyed it. It was such a surprise to me that I'm thinking about Playing Inquisition if it's anything like it.

@JDINCINERATOR nah. Ps2 also sold well because it was the cheapest DVD player when DVDs were all the rage. Plus it sold well in some less developed countries, since it went as low as 99 USD. Ps5 won't have that luxury.

@Dampsponge that's not how it works. Even if it were the only console available, there'd be no guarantee it'd sell well.

That's really exciting. I have complete faith in HBO.

@Mansizerooster the delay is too distracting, imo

@Silenos nah. Plenty of good games don't sell well and plenty of bad ones perform far better. As always and with everything (be it movies, video games, songs, books, etc)

quality =/= sales

@wildcat_kickz the absolute worst for me was when the movie Joker kept getting terrible reviews because (and I paraphrase) "do we really need a movie about a white serial killer in this climate?". And it wasn't one or two reviewers.

Does he, though? I find it hilarious how pushsquare assumes we agree with them and most posts are about how right or somewhat right he is.

Personally, I somewhat agree. I see people's arguments against it, but it's important to remember that there is literally no perfect system that cannot be abused one way or another.

For example, there are some cases of reviewers who are simply terrible at playing games or clearly didn't bother finishing the game they're reviewing. That alone for me would be a disqualifying criterion. We have the same issue in academia where peer reviewing has become incredibly flawed, but still the best system we could come up with.

@Northern_munkey yeah, my thoughts exactly

What's the title of that Lizzo song?

@AverageGamer I don't think it's crazy at all. It costs $20 less on xbx as well. Why would ps gamers pay more for it? We're not even talking about a strong IP that would sell no matter what.

@CallMeDuraSouka Control probably sold more than 99% of games out there. It's just that we either hear about massive success stories or studios shutting down due to low sales.

I'm so ready for it. Watched the series finale a few days ago and really liked it. Wish it'd come out sooner, but I can wait.

@ShogunRok that's really cool. Thanks.

@Leinad7 "which is ridiculous because Horizon series is so dumb, characters, dialogs, lore.. only combat and exploration is fun. But at the same time „PS exclusive” tag makes sales getting higher. Violet game will also sell, even being so bad."

Man, this is hilarious. There are so many ps exclusive games that haven't sold anywhere near as much. Not even a 10th of Horizon's sales. Being an exclusive doesn't always help.

This is really cool. I do wonder how many copies the franchise has sold in total.

@Nightcrawler71 yeah, I get that and if it had come out at the same time for both consoles and cost less on ps5 or if it's released now on ps5 and it still costs more on xb, such a complaint would be make sense.

@HaveTheSauce same here. Thankfully, there is a third-person option as well.

"However, this may stick in the craw of those who shelled out full-price for the game less than a year ago"

Why would it? That was like a year ago. Prices tend to go down. I don't understand the logic behind it.

@Stocksy that's the way I see it, too. Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated.

@nessisonett does the fact that it happened 80 years really make a difference? Because to me, it doesn't. And WW3 feels more like a real threat every passing day. I'm not being disingenuous. Who's having little sympathy exactly? I think they're both terrible. Please stop making assumptions about others.

@nessisonett but I think we can agree that war is terrible for everyone involved, right?

@themaladroit sure, buddy.

@tameshiyaku now that would be a great idea for a comedy.

@themaladroit " I really don't care what you think of what i said, just don't tell me who to blame or not because I'm not ordering you around"

Gotta love the irony

@rustym82 I get the impression that it's because the explanation doesn't really matter. Like Kojima's explanation that a female character couldn't wear clothes because she was breathing through her skin?

@Leinad7 plenty of games have "dolls" and don't sell well. So facts suggest otherwise. Whether you personally felt like the game was empty is irrelevant. It has high scores with reviewers and gamers praising its gameplay.

"If that game was released with main protagonist looking normal or being a dude, it would not sell well and we all know it."

You may want to read my post again.

Need to give it a try and see for myself, because otherwise this is right up my alley. We'll see.

@Dogbreath yup. Very well put.

@nessisonett I mean, wasn't World War II real and horrible?

@ATaco or! "Sex sells" is an oversimplification. Stellar Blade sold well because it was a good game with a visually appealing protagonist. But if you don't have both, it's clearly not enough.