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@RiotShieldsHurt word

@GamingGod totes obvs, m8

@Marquez his entire life seems to revolve around trophies. It's quite sad, really.

@bubblyboe false equivalence at its finest

@Snowrunner yup. It was a self-fulfilled prophesy from the beginning.

@Clytorial_Impact sure, there are plenty of parents who used to be gamers, but most people, even the ones who used to play candy crush on their phone know little to nothing about video games. My ex used to play Mortal Kombat on Sega Saturn, yet couldn't care less about video games and still thinks you can pause any game.

@Waa-Laa by trying logging out or incognito mode and seeing if the price remains the same.

@Scratchz46 Helix will most likely be irrelevant

@Neither_scene it depends on the person. Some people prefer gaming on their old PC, even if a ps5 would cost far less. I understand that you were replying to a specific comment, but I just wanted to highlight that it's a myth that PC gamers in general have high end rigs. All the estimates suggest very low numbers (as low as 1% of all PC gamers).

@Neither_scene yeah, so not every PC gamer has a 3k PC.

@trev666 yup. I’ve been saying it for a while, yet people keep repeating “of course x game sold well. It’s great”

Fine. I'll finally play Persona 5!

I had no idea. Fortnite's success is quite common with some of the most successful franchises, like Friends, Beverly Hills 90210, How I met your Mother and The Big Bang Theory. They all took time to take off. But nowadays no one is willing to wait to turn things around.

@Max_the_German that's... not what survivor bias refers to. At all.

I don't mind blatant rip-offs. No matter how much you copy, at the end of the day, the game needs to be fun to succeed. Having said that, I don't see how they expect not be sued by Nintendo. So, isn't it a waste of resources?

@PuppetMaster maybe it's because they work for Nintendo

Some positive news, at last.

@soy and what about expansions, dlc, etc? Or even games that are digital only?

@vOLkEN imagine trying to buy a game to play with your friends. All your friends bought it for 50 USD and encourage you to buy it, too, so that you can play after school/work. You come home only to realize that your account has 55 USD credit, but its costs 60 for you (10 more than the rest, because you're a loyal customer and they're not). Personally, I'd be annoyed.

@Enuo if they don't, they risk losing the copyright. The lack of knowledge combined with complete confidence with which people talk about matters they don't know enough is seriously bringing the downfall of society, especially in healthcare (see spread of measles). And social media and "likes" give people the false impression they must be right, since "everyone" agrees with them.

Yeah, this should be illegal. I think most of us are in agreement here.

Having said that, I keep seeing people bringing up the lack of competition, which shows a clear lack of understanding of how markets work.

Even if Sony were the last company making console games, it would not follow that everyone would buy Sony games. Many would choose a different hobby, they'd rather play older games, watch Netflix, etc. Just like movies, lack of competition doesn't guarantee a product will sell.

Also, Sony has competition from Nintendo, Steam and mobile games. Plenty of people are switching to PC, Nintendo is selling extremely well in Japan and well in other countries and most ads are about mobile games, because they make a fortune.

Xbox is still expensive despite the competition it faces from Sony. They also increased (or said and didn't? I can't keep up) prices of first party games, again, despite Sony being a strong competitor.

TL;DR competition doesn't magically fix everything, but people will keep repeating till the end of times. Same with "no publicity is bad publicity" (which has been proven wrong to death already)

Finally, some exciting news! Always great to see good games selling well.

@Stocksy it's a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation.

@PuppetMaster "I think right now PS brand is in good position with or without small games. But these small games really needs to sell well at least break even to keep Sony happy and give them solid reason to invest towards AA games & small devs. That way, they can also attract more small devs towards PS ecosystem which leads to higher output of small games."

Their latest track record definitely confirms exactly what you're saying. But I still believe that they should look at the bigger picture, like they used. When only 6/10 of the games they made made a profit, but they made them anyway (I don't remember which PS CEO admitted that back in the ps3 era, perhaps?). Because they understood that it helps their brand. And that's how they turned things around with ps3 and ps4. Now they try to maximize profits without taking any loses.

@Ambassador_Kong maybe. But they didn't pay that amount specifically for Marathon and nothing else.

@Gabrielmpf was it supposed to replace Destiny, though? We know Destiny 3 is coming. And many GaaS that have been released lately that try to please everyone, end up pleasing no one. GaaS need to somehow catch people's attention from the get go. I don't know if Marathon has, but in a sea full of GaaS, it stands out (for better or worse).

@rachetmarvel The problem is that if half of the people pirating Sony games on PC were actually buying them, it'd likely make porting them worth the effort. There are several sites that release numbers of most downloaded games. I remember several years ago Dante's Inferno being the most pirated game of that year, even though the game was a commercial failure.

@Splat "3.6 billion for doing just fine. Yikes."

Again with this "argument"

It's not their only game or the only game they're ever going to release.

@PuppetMaster I don't think they need to break even. Just to help the brand. To give ps gamers the sense that they're getting many first party/exclusive games, even if they're not interested in every single one. A strong brand (from the ps3 and mostly ps4 days) is what carried ps5.

As long as they make something for everyone, I think people should realize no company will cater to them 100%

@Markatron84 Correct. That is the only possible explanation.

@Dyd87xz sorry, buddy, but if you don't realize how ridiculous the comparison it, it's definitely a you problem.

As I said, if PC gamers weren't interested in Sony games, they'd simply ignore them eveywhere. Piracy suggests that some may have been successful enough for Sony to keep porting them, if people were indeed purchasing them.

@Dyd87xz yes, let's compare all sales of steam games, dlc, MTX with pirated downloads of Sony games. That makes sense.

@nessisonett what was the alternative? Denying it and escalating the situation in an effort to convince the internet mob that they were wrong?

@Dyd87xz sites that offer them for... "free" beg to differ. The sheer number of downloads suggests otherwise.

@Nakatomi_Uk exactly. It's inexcusable.

@Zeke68 well, technically, it didn't kill it, so

@Dalamar gotta love people making assumptions about others.

@themightyant plenty! What kind of genres are you mostly interested in experiencing?

Halls of Torment. This game will be the death of me...

Going for the platinum and it's taking forever

Edit: Almost forgot! Also playing Spider-man Remastered. I beat the main game again just so that I can experience the DLC and I finally get the criticism it received of being more of the same. Having said that, I found the second DLC much darker than the main game and quite impactful. Haven't started the third DLC yet, but I'm really looking forward to it.

I wonder if anyone else enjoyed the DLC.

@StitchJones "WdaFuq" are you talking about. It has won several awards, making it an award winning game. Jesus.

@Ambassador_Kong yeah, it's really not that simple. It's not like Bungie has a policy that requires its employees to steal art. When some of the people that work for them do so, it hurts their brand. It's much more cost effective to hire someone to create the art. If they were a tiny company that one had heard of, your argument would hold some water.

@IOI "out of every digital platform holder Sony’s is by far the most expensive and abusive."

Not sure if this is true. I've bought a Nintendo game since 3ds, but if memory serves their first party games hardly ever receive any notable discounts.

@Nakatomi_Uk I've lost count how many ps top up cards I bought from CDKEYS but I've recently found shopto far better.

It should simply be illegal.

Oh noes. Not a slow rollout of skins. I'm livid.

@BentIeyma that's how meaningless user votes are.

@Fyz306903 what a lot of people don't realize is that exclusives are made mostly to promote the console. If they also sell well, that's just cherry on top. Sony makes most of its revenue from Microtransactions, dlc, etc from the third party games.

@Krlozgod "This article really show the fanboyism in this site. All these arguments also contradict themselves, one one hand you are saying the PC ports are driving people away from Play Station but on the other hand you are saying that porting games doesn’t make sense because these games don’t sale well on PC which by that logic should not drive away people from PS5."

There is no contradiction here if you take into account how prevalent piracy still is on PC. Plenty of people hate Sony for all sorts of reasons and feel like they're entitled to play their games for free because they don't agree with psn requirement for example or for Sony charging too much for x game or for being "greedy".

@AverageGamer it’s been proven time and time again that even if there is no competition, there is no guarantee something will sell well.