Fans Are Already Debating Whether God of War's PS5 Trilogy Will Cut the Series' Sex Minigames

Kratos was getting his freak on on those games 😁.it's what made the early god of war so legendary. So yes it should stay.word up son

Kingdom come deliverance 2 do what it does,
GTA 5 and GTA 6 do what it does,
So might as well let this game be what it was😉😌😉😌😉😌😉😌

Removal of these minigames would have a great impact on the story and immersion.

They don’t need to censor anything, there will be an age certificate rating of 18 on the game. I am sure anyone of that age can take the scenes and just agree that it’s a typical Kratos situation (Maybe.. 😅)!

I hope they keep them in, just so Jaffe can ***** and moan about it… even though he was more than okay with it at the time.

Greek history/mythology is heavily wrapped up in sexual imagery all over the place so as goofy as they were, I think they fit the overall tone of the games.

Plus, like it was said it's not like they showed Kratos in the act or anything so I say why not? Keep them in!

Copious buckets of mutilation and gore? A-OKAY!
Silly sex scenes and boobies? GET RID OF IT!

I can't stand people with this mindset. Knowing modern PlayStation's strange aversion to nudity in certain cases, I'm sure the sex scenes and nudity will be removed.

Look if sony is going to allow (Goon (Dead) or Alive) or Gooner Blade (Stellar Blade) on their platform, they should not cut these.

They will 100% remove it. Quote me on that if they don't.

I hope they add PlayStation Move support for the sex minigames.

I'm not bothered either way but unless they're going for a complete overhaul, they might as well keep the games as they were, warts and all. We don't really know what to expect from the remakes, but I'm personally more in favour of a comprehensive remaster than a full remake. Think modernized engine and QoL features, but keeping the rest untouched. I don't see how they can keep the scope of the project manageable otherwise.

They should stay in, but there's about a 99.9% chance it's cut.

Also, I haven't really delved into GoW yet so I can't say, but why are they remaking these games in the first place? Other than money obviously.
Isn't the crux of Kratos' characterization in the Norse games reliant on his actions in the original trilogy? Wouldn't changing things start to confuse the narrative? Just seems like a baffling announcement in general rather than moving on to a new setting and pantheon.

I won't particularly care either way in this specific case, but generally speaking I'd much rather remakes not remove content from their originals. Honor the original and maybe add to it, do not subtract.

As for whether they'll actually remove them or not... Most likely yes, and we'll never hear the end of it.

Sex is the same today as it was when these came out. If considered cringe it’s only peoples perception and inability to accept sex for what it is that’s changed. Isn’t it time we stopped wrapping everyone up in cotton wool and grew up?

Leave them in, I want to experience the originals for the first time in their original form not cut or modified to suit current standards. They are only games, no one is forcing anyone to play them and if they did cut that content it wouldn't really be preserving anything. I'd just go and find the originals instead.

I think they should keep it. But with this day and age of social media where attractive female protag and tame af fans service like jiggle bazongas got so much backlash from a "special" group, i think it's safe to say they will completely removed it to avoid the backlash. I mean, some people already complaint that Sony used Kasumi bazongas for DOA 7 thumbnail video 😂

Also not just the sex mini game but there's a lot of nudity from female characters and monsters. Like the Oracle in GoW 1 showed nipples or the Sisters of Fate, Aphrodite, and Sirens / Medusa showed some bare tits.

I don't see why they would, sex and Greek mythos go hand in hand. I'm sure people say Sony won't add that kind of stuff nowadays but The Last of Us 2 showed more in that department than any God of War did. Hell, I could see the remake actually showing the scenes since sex in games has been more prevalent in recent history with games like Kingdom Come, Cyberpunk/The Witcher, Baldur's Gate 3. And the smash circle button has become such a meme, I'd be surprised if they cut it.

Either way Jaffe's gonna bitch about it

@HotGoomba This comment had me dying!! Bravo!!

Normal people in the real world get up to all manner of weird and wonderful things in a free society and most welcome that sort of freedom. Why does all that suddenly get whisked away when gaming is involved? It's a throwaway sex scene in a throwaway popcorn game of gloriously nonsensical excess.

They should retain them, but I'd be very surprised if they do.

They will 100% remove them! No one has the guts to make any media that is edgy these days. We live in a sterile society run by whiners and wimps.

Edit: also gta6 will likely remove the ability to sleep with hookers. I just don’t understand why we bother with age ratings tbh.

I don't mind it either way, but I feel like people will have strong opinions on something incredibly trivial.

@Czar_Khastik not to mention losing the cultural impact of 2000's. It would be like if evanescence suddenly remade "bring me to life" in the style of mumford and sons.

@Korgon I thought I was open minded until I played those games as a teen / 20 something.

I thought i was open minded until a few years ago where I started dating a Greek woman.

Some conversations we have about their history and some of her and her friends life truly shows the prudish nature of some Britons... and again, I was open minded 🤣

At the same time, we bonded over this gane in a weird way, as I got interested in Greek mythology, and had some weird stuff to talk about!

Don't care either way. But the close the votes as the option to keep them in is at 69%, perfect number for it

I mean come on, plenty of games have far more graphic nudity and sex scenes.

Honestly, MAYBE with the exception of GoW2, they felt pretty out of place and antithetical to Kratos' character. I say keep them in, as a remake should retain a maximum amount of original content. But the games and narratives therein wouldn't lose much with their removal.

what kind of remake will it be a remake of some scenes or a full blown remake new actors for all the parts?

@graymamba He's going to whine about it anyway no matter what they do. Every single time the guy opens his mouth he's putting everyone else down. But what has he done since then?

They're gonna remove it.

While the original GoW only had to deal with the Bible Prudes, todays games also have to deal with the Neo-Prudes, a new breed of very loud, annoying people.

The main reason to remove anything sexual is to maximize the number of places it is allowed to be sold, though, and so maximize profits. Sony wants to be able to sell the game in UAE, China, Germany etc.

@Bingoboyop Not really, unless we're talking pron games.

GoW3 has two titted-out women narrating Kratos' 'ferocity' before being inspired by it to indulge in each other.

Maybe The Last of Us Part II's scene was more graphic, in the sense it was actually rendered. But GoW's have heaping graphic implication, and are 100x more gratuitous.

@Titntin "They add nothing except cringe."

Exactly! They're only there to be edgy. There's nothing interesting or artistic about them. At best, they provide humorous tonal whiplash.

If they cut them I won't give them the full price for sure. Hope they keep them as it is.

Should we burn book's that a small group of people have decided is inappropriate for today's customer's. They maybe aged rated 17-18 but we are making these games for the "Morden Audience".

All I want is a port of the PS2 (or the PS3 collection versions) of 1 and 2. We already have a PS4 version of GoW3.

Change nothing gameplay related, including the mini games.

I’ll happily buy that. Hell, I’ll even PREORDER that.

@Dman10 I’m pretty sure you’re blaming the wrong people on modern-day censorship…

Personally I could care less if they're kept in or cut cause they're just short 20-25 second qte mini games, so they're not exactly the biggest deal in the entire game.

Why? From what I remember they were optional and none of them were even graphic,with most of them done offscreen.

I see some accusations of these scenes being edgy and cringe, but did you guys even play the original games? GoW and Kratos himself were as Edgy McEdgeLord as you can get in gaming. He was supposed to be an anti-hero that often made shocking and unheroic decisions, and that was a large part of what made the games feel different than the goody-two-shoes heroes that came before.

The 2018 game remade Kratos from Conan the Barbarian into essentially Joel from TLoU/The Father from The Road, and that was just never the same.

@Kingy they aren't changing it. They are just remaking them.

The story won't change and no technically what happens in the new ones hasn't really got anything to do with his past but more about his sons future and wife's legacy.

The original games is Kratos is just pure anger and wants to kill every god and also they are the pinicacle of arcade melee combat. Jist a pure delight to play let alone the crazy story.

It seems to be only anime sexuality that gets censored, so we might be in the clear. Immortality, TLOU 2, GTA V, Cyberpunk, and plenty of other games have nudity.

They’re super dated but that’s probably why they should be kept in. When Kratos does come face to face with his demons, I do think that the way he treats women especially as completely disposable should be addressed however, there’s some decent story in there about his wife and the way nobody really replaces her that wasn’t fully explored in the original trilogy.

of course it will. it’s wrong to be edgy these days.

@Perturbator bro most of these people that like god of war today aren’t the same people that liked the classics. the norse games are reboots of a nu-god of war for nu-audience

@Frmknst after reading your comments I often wonder what you are smoking and if you would share..

They will change it. Sony is trying to make Kratos a family man, not Ladies man.

@themightyant WTF is a chud? I'm 53 years young and I'm not down with all the modern slang. I'm guessing it's some kind of derogatory name for somebody.

Modern-day SIE will remove it.

They'll either remove them or gender-swap one of the girls at the very least. It's Sony

If you're remaking the Greek Trilogy there's little reason to tone down the gore, nudity and sex. The over-the-top & gratuitous nature of it all is a big part of the identity of those games, and a good contrast between the Sagas.

Would the 2 women touching themselves watching you bonk Aphrodite fly nowadays? Probably not, I can see that changing to something breaking like in the other games (maybe a big ol' pillar in the room). That said, they do serve a narrative purpose in showing Kratos state of mind and also his treatment of women & sex at that point in his life. In GoW1 in particular the post-sex CGI cutscene is an early character moment for Kratos, though I'd move the mini-game to be before the cutscene & reward you after you make port.

@Bez87 A remake implies changes, no? I don't imagine the current GoW team is interested in just doing a graphical overhaul, they're probably going to make them play like the Norse games and be as narratively focused as they are. Guess we won't know until they have something to show.

@nessisonett I think they could've done something interesting with them, but ultimately did nothing.

You can say in the first game, the scene effectively introduces his depression and listlessness. Except it's the cutscene of him apathetically laying in bed with two topless women that does that, and giving the player the choice to go back to bed after Kratos already got up ready to kill things doesn't seem like something he would actually do. In 3, he was just coerced into it — if I remember correctly. I don't really feel like it says anything... Maybe that his rage towards Zeus is specific and pointed, and he doesn't really care about killing all gods. Which is kinda clear at that point, I reckon. In 2, even though it's the stupidest, literally-could-be-out-of-a-pron-parody scene, I'd say it does contribute to the general sense of detachment Kratos has as the God of War and, ergo, feels thematically appropriate. But the game doesn't try examining that detachment, the scene's timing actually undermines his general pragmaticism, and it's still really damn silly.

Maybe the remake can do more with them, but any examination of Kratos' misogyny might crowd an otherwise pretty focused revenge story. I also think Kratos' sluttiness is more tied to his pragmaticism rather than sexism, especially considering the numerous allied and adversarial women in the trilogy + PSP games he seemed to respect. Well, if you ignore that the scenes are obviously there for marketing/edgy-dev purposes and don't mesh very well at all with the character.

@Burnish1619 A gedner-swap would probably make them feel more authentically Greek.

@8thDoctor I feel like they actually undermine Kratos' implied state of mind and don't really reflect his views towards women (read above).

They do show he cares little about sex, presumably doesn't associate it with love, and perhaps explicitly only has sex with women whose existence and agency he's indifferent towards. But anything one can parse from that is, I'd argue, better communicated through the numerous innocents he kills or lets die out of indifference. Aside from just how much he luv'ed his wife. But I think that's plainly obvious regardless.

They do fit the gratuitous tone of the trilogy, though. I agree about that.

Of course not. That's the reason I play the God of War games. For...this.

@RoomWithaMoose The most reasonable explanation is that Jaffe is an edgy sexist, any attempt to come up with a reason for Kratos to act like that is sort of trying to retroactively fit a story to it. Besides, he’s a Spartan, where are the twinks?

@themightyant I know the movie very well but I don't see the correlation to be honest. At least I learnt something I guess.

@themightyant wouldn't cellar dweller be more apt?

69% want to retain them as they were.

I don't care either way, I'd be more upset if they change the original camera and removed jumping!

I care less about the minigame and more about if they'll censor the monsters and some outfits.

I can live without the minigame, you'll just lose an easter egg and some red orbs. But censoring the designs will take away the whole vibe this game has.

Damn, just missed comment #69

Definitely retain them. I’ve got so many games to play I can quite easily just skip these remakes out of principle if they start treating me with such disrespect.

I hope Sony does not bend the knee to the weak minded and keep those minigames/scenes.

This debate is so ridiculous and shows that Santa Monica can only lose, because one side will definitely be pissed off.

Personally, I'm in favor of keeping them in, but it wouldn't be the end of the world for me if they were removed.

@KawakiisaFraud Pretty much! Certain segments of video game fandom seem desperate for anything to self-flagellate to.

@RoomWithaMoose 😂 Not wrong!

@Burnish1619 "They'll either remove them or gender-swap one of the girls at the very least. It's Sony"

That would make it more authentic! In those times everyone was sleeping with everyone at all times anywhere 😅 almost every Greek emperor had many male and females to sleep with. It was one of the freakiest time periods in human history 😁

Kratos was a parody of hyper-masculinity, it was supposed to be funny, same with the cartoonish violence. If they ditch that idea entirely it will not be the same game and they should completely re-do it keeping only the core story elements.

Honestly don't give a damn either way.

Hope they remove them purely so David Jaffe has the mother of all meltdowns.

Dont remove nothing forget the snowflakes of this world if they dont like they know what they can do keep the games as it was however as long as the games are good i coudnt care less about sex scenes or other things it just bothers me why we should all make sure we dont upset people all the time

Oh yeah that detail/trophy that is off screen. I wouldn't put it past that with current era Sony, would they replace it with another type of minigame for more red orbs? I doubt it there too.

Also the other imagery in other scenes for other characters.

If they are going to censor it that's kind of odd. Besides Sony has Last of Us, Wolverrine and others R/18,M 17, whatever already, they want to tone it down for teens to play it even if the Norso ones were still made for adults in mind with it's story anyway. Not just the Greek ones as a bunch of 20 year olds in the 2000s, it still had it's tone and fit the mythology in it's own creative way.

I have the PS3/PSP versions anyway so I'm happy. Though saying I have the originals for 'insert minigame' is a little odd. Uncharted 3 I have the PS3 version for the multiplayer story chapters as those were cool and multiplayer is cut from the PS4 version and are just signleplayer.

honestly i just want see what remakes look like in my head i imagine the combo of the older games with a graphic style of the more current ones i think that would be amazing

You didn't see anything so what is there to sensor? Can i get through the gates without a certain young girl getting ripped in two.

@Perturbator "The 2018 game remade Kratos from Conan the Barbarian into essentially Joel from TLoU/The Father from The Road, and that was just never the same"

That's called character development. I'm glad Cory realized after 7 greek games, Kratos deserved more depth as well a fresh start / redemption arc to make him a better character than just an angry killing machine who deleted everyone even the innocent ones just to get his revenge.

If the reboot still keep Kratos the same, i bet it wouldn't sold well let alone revive + catapult GoW series as Sony 2nd best selling 1st party franchise.

@Flaming_Kaiser I mean I arent particularly bothered about it to be honest its just the point of it being removed incase it upsets people should be left as it is for that reason plus its part of what kratos was about back then

@Kingy we will. But a remake is classed as the same core story but a overhaul of everything else.

I actually dont like the idea of changing the game to be more like norse games.

What made the god of war trilogy amazing was its core gameplay. No one truly cared about the story. It was a good story but the arcade combat is what made those games.

They'll keep the mini games but replace the women with men.

@Bez87 Sorry but that is not true the story is part of the game. The gore and gameplay were great but it also showed what a monster Kratos became in the end its think he was worse then the gods at the end. He killed so many innocent people directly and indirect.

@Dan12836666 At the end its would not even call him a antihero anymore even he was plain evil.

@PuppetMaster In the end i wasn't rooting for Kratos anymore i can tell you that. He was a monster he cried about his wife and daughter but in the end he was so much worse then anyone.

Plus if they didn't do anything new with the IP Sony would have canceled the it i think that was already said. Plus the last one with the multiplayer what a horrible game was that.

@shoeses I bet you already have your 1/10 Metacritic review typed up, huh?

Just leave them in. Who cares if they’re “edgy”, and that is subjective anyways. Who are they trying to appease to? These games are adult themed, why is major violence okay but not sex?

@AhmadSumadi No... why would anyone do that and why would you assume that...?

Retain them as they were. If anyone complains IGNORE THEM. It's simple.

@Futureshark "Unprogressive," eh? Like as in something that conserves things as they are? If only there was a word for that. Huh.

@shoeses that would be amazing. Or make it a toggle, even better.

@Flaming_Kaiser I think like Kevin Sorbo handles that. Christsploitation, it's called.

It would be wrong to incentivise sex in the murder game in the current year or whatever.

I want Game Preservation, regardless of content. People have become too afraid of any content that makes them uncomfortable.

If it's removed, I probably won't buy out of principle.

I expect some changes since it's a remake and not a remaster, I saw a lot of people claiming they like over the shoulder more than the old style camera so idk. I have the originals so I'm good either way.

"may not play from a modern perspective"

This sentiment has damaged countless protagonists and properties. Modern perspectives are only relevant to a pissed off Spartan demi-god in the Heroic Age if you see games as nothing more than didactic soapboxes.

I predict not only will the sex minigame be removed, but also all nudity, even monster nips.

I really would prefer if they did not remake the games. Just give us PS5 native ports of the HD collection. I replayed through 1 & 2 via the PS+ streaming of the PS3 HD collection versions and still enjoyed the games as they were despite that being a very compromised way of playing.

The original are campy games - in a good way. A lot of stuff from the originals would feel out of place with more realistic graphics and higher production values. I do not think they are games that would really benefit from a modern reimaging. I wish they'd just make something new.

@Sweetz They'll likely be heavily altered, unfortunately, but I don't agree that it's necessary. Tone and visual fidelity are two separate things. Camp, violence and sex can absolutely coexist with photorealism - there are multiple genres of film that do exactly that.

@Sweetz "i wish they'd just make something new"

They did with Sons of Sparta and whatever Cory Barlog new game is. This remake is for the fans who keeps asking about the greek trilogy.

I hope they remove it. It's one of the things stopping me from playing the original games. If I can't play it with family it isn't worth it. Violence doesn't bother me but stuff like this does, its pointless to have. Similar to Metal Gear Solid 3 the game would be completely perfect if it wasn't for the unnecessary hoes making for awkward moments if played in the main room. Also I really like God of War 2018 because its serious and family friendly(relatively).

They were absolutely cringe, remove them if it’s a proper remake.

I think they're pretty cringe honestly but completely depends on what these remakes even are.

I think if they're going over the shoulder, new style GOW and they're making changes to the story to make it more poigniant and add depth to Kratos character and the nature of his anger etc, you definitely remove them in their current form. Maybe you add something else in a way thats played in a less childish way.

If its just a straight remake, same story, same dialogue, same gameplay but in 4K, yeah you just leave them who cares.

There is a commercial argument for censorship if it will substantially lower the classification to the extent that the additional sales to new players, will offset the loss of sales to the older players who want an authentic nostalgic experience.

Unfortunately I doubt it will come come down to cold hard business decision based on sales projections, but rather will be related to pressure from the Neo-Puritans who have infested the industry.

Consumers should vote with their wallets as that's the only way to cleanse the industry of such people and attitudes.

i think we all know they will

Just make them worse , show everything and make kratos wear a gimp mask.

There were sex minigames?

Why would they remove it? It's no different from TV series or movies that have actual explicit scenes that do absolutely nothing to move the plot along.

If it's not in there it's a demake. Period.

I guarantee it's gone, since it won't likely fit into the game.

Have a violence/nudity toggle. Problem solved.

@Flaming_Kaiser I don't think the story would of mattered if the gameplay was inferior to what it was.

Either way I think the story is core and that wont change.

But the worrying thing for me is if they do change the gameplay.
For me it was central to the game.

@LikelySatan I wanted to safe a certain young girl in GOW i tried so many things to go under that gate.