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@Lowdefal it’s because PS5 is a lead platform. Power matters. When the PS4 was the powerful of the two, many outlets including FPS foundry constantly noted how the Xbox one was down on power. Narrative changed. For this generation people want to roast the series s but it was last generation consoles holding us back.

So a worthless game disc since they are requiring internet access to verify the purchase. All the game data being on the disc in this case provides is a courtesy to be able to play the game faster. Otherwise it would take longer to fully download the game. Rubbish I wasn’t going to buy anyways but thanks for making the purchase decision even easier! I appreciate these physical media reports on new games.

@Jacko11 short term thinking. My family keeps all of their consoles. When some wants to play a game all we do is hook up said console and insert physical medium. Simple and true ownership. No online needed. Internet of everything isn’t good for every occasion. Obviously when one gets an online multiplayer game, a reasonable person knows it won’t be forever. Those of us whom detest these practices don’t like it for single player campaign games.

@Rich33 they do this by taking a big loss at the beginning by making strong bespoke hardware. Similar to what consoles used to do in the past. Make strong unique hardware that was a very high medium tier PC at release. Especially since these console generations will last a while plus cross generation is expected for the first few years. There needs to be a lot of overhead for when current gen games get developed.

One doesn't need to go to university to understand the impact of having new releases day one on subsidized gamepass. It was very obvious that their sells would suffer. There is no reason for consumers to pay for price for a digital access license to a store when they can rent it for nearly nothing and it will be several years before a new release is delisted. The choice is obvious for so many. I only buy physical so I'll pay for price for the full base game with whatever patch was written to the disc.

@Member_the_game Subsidized gamepass is still a great deal. It should cost more IMO. Especially considering that subscribers get nearly every new release day one. But modern gamers will not be content until they can get games and consoles nearly free.

Joint Ventures is what Beijing has been requiring for decades for the west. And western companies want cheap money in the exchange for access to that market. Joint ventures (tech transfers) have benefited China tremendously in every industry!

Well this is what happens when production of semi-conductors is done almost exclusively in one of two countries. Not to mention the various other components that go into consumer electronics being done in one of two countries. What this means is that Sony, MS, and nintendo have to pay whatever the price is to keep up with their production desires as the demand for consumer electronics is so high. Its very competitive getting production time. Sony, MS, and nintendo have to make money presently so new hardware can be rolled out. Hence the switch 2 price increase for what it is. Days of seeing a console be cheaper for the same generation are gone. Which is the norm for every other industry. Cars don't get cheaper throughout the production cycle of about 8 years no matter how cheap the manufacturer makes said car with various refreshes. Anyways the OG PS5 is still a great deal just like the big OG PS3's.

@LifeGirl my expectations were so low for this game they could wipe an earth worms behind. So I wasn’t disappointed at all. I knew this game would be modern without any of the classical bond elements.

Should be a Q from the early last century bond up until Bronson. But I know they won’t do that.

Well this is just yet another microcosm of a much bigger issue. The modern west has been selling out for decades at the detriment of our own people. This globalist world at the top doesn’t care for what is right as long as one’s digital bank accounts can grow. It’s very unfortunate. And I don’t even like the entity that is EA. Propped up Saudi Arabia is real and I don’t like them for what they represent nor should they have been trusted for what they have done. I digress I know but the gaming industry has had so many shake-up’s this generation.

I’m looking forward to this. It has the potential to be what the Witcher 3 was for last generation.

@ButterySmooth30FPS perhaps but DF doesn’t provide tangible value like developers do. They just complain and analyze others work as a critic. I’d have more respect if games launched with DF sticker on the cover to get said game playable to their standards. Nothing wrong with seeing how a game performs at launch before making a purchase but people need to stop teaching them like they are so special as a critic.

@Pat_trick no such thing as fair prices for our gaming hobby which is a luxury. Games should cost more so that my fellow programmers and engineers can stay employed with good compensation.

@MaccaMUFC Microsoft wants to give Xbox owners the illusion of a brand by delaying its release to the paying PS fan base. Makes subsidized gamepass a little more special I reckon. But share holders will very pleased when it launches on PS.

I got a PS5 pro because I figured that the PS6 will see so many cross generation games for the first several years even from Sony. So having a pro will be better than the base for the first few years of PS6. Of course I could be wrong and Sony launches the PS6 will exclusive content followed by the publisher Microsoft. But I seriously doubt that will be the case. When used right the Pro is a good.

@Gabrielmpf the PS5 is being pushed to the limits! There isn’t a lot of overhead in it. Otherwise terrible optimization we are seeing now wouldn’t be so noticeable with brute force picking up the slack.

Sure the leaked PS6 hardware is nothing special nor does Sony really try to make powerful bespoke hardware anymore. Even so a next generation will allow for me pixels on the screen and higher frame rates with the current level of graphics. It will allow artists to do just a little more. And console gamers want high resolutions which waste so much processing power. So that is what developers have focused on these past several years as TV pixel counts go up. Another thing too is Cross generations lasting too long which have caused a massive overlap and bottlenecking of current hardware. PS6 likely suffer the same when it is launched as the old PS5 will surely hold it back in the future.

Well demand for semiconductors has not decreased. They are all almost exclusively made in one of two countries. And other industries have a heavy demand for them too. Despite these weak chipsets being old it still costs money to get chip allocations in production. Plus R/D for the next generation. This is why we need such quality software hence forth.

@nessisonett this is what happens when semiconductors are made almost exclusively in two countries.

@FinneasGH yup. They release early so they can get a surge of revenue. Likely only pushed by the suit types. As developers and engineers know when their work isn’t done. And most people are honest folks.

Miyamoto Musashi introduced this style in the year 1604 and he was a very successful swordsman. And this game is in 1603. Interesting.

GTA 6 will be probably still be in the top 5 game sells by month when the PS7 pro comes out.

@nessisonett With Neil at the helm it will be a creation of his ethos.

@Northern_munkey just like the lead actor for the second ghosts game. Not a good idea to insult one’s customers. These managers need to do a better job of reining in the more vocal actors especially while under contract haha. Makes purchasing decisions so much more easy for me despite it being so easy haha.

See when a company has success they report the classic metric for how a game has done. Copies sold! I'll be curious to see how well this does over the next year as Metal Gear games have always been niche and not every console gamer has even heard of them in my experience.

@Propaperpusher I was super late to this game and it was great. I feel sorry for people who were early adopters of it. As I cannot imagine playing it four or five years ago with how it is now. As now is what was promised at launch more or less. But you will enjoy when you play it in the future.

@StitchJones can’t have the AI too realistic as the main protagonist would get destroyed in sword combat against any bloke. To me the combat is arcade like the first one which i think many don’t mind.

@StitchJones well people want higher resolutions with more actual pixels on the screen. So the PS5 GPU is being used for that. Which doesn’t leave a tone of overhead like many think it has. Had the PS5 been built to be a high medium tier console developers would have more power available to impress folks. It’s why I hope with the PS6 they wait longer to launch it and put expensive hardware in at launch. With all of that said it’s not an ugly game by any means it looks good just like the first one.

No and I’m a big bond fan. Well that is for the 20th century bond films. The ethos is what I was expecting it to be from a modern studio in this realm.

@wiiware cannot have attractive females for western devs anymore it seems. It’s a shame for a bond game or anything bond related. But im not surprised by this.

@BAMozzy agreed that people go to far. And yes there will always be fanatics for anything. Humans are very tribal for many things or find something to hang on to. It’s just how humans are when we really like something, sometimes we cannot process how or why someone else doesn’t see it how we see it.
I think humans will always find a reason to compare even if as you said the hardware is similar. Well it comes down to packaging, looks, feel, the people affiliated with the brand etc.
Agreed about competition. For any industry having a good competitor(s) leads to innovation. I hope all console manufacturers have success enough to justify continuation in this hobby. As each company has brought something cool to gaming for the past several decades.

Better for them to cancel it then release something that wouldn’t live up to the ethos of the old ones. From the music to the character design of Agent dark. The new one seriously seemed to lack that ethos which made me love the first two games.

Even with inflation the cost of the PS5 remains low still just like all of gaming. People at Sony and software developers need good compensation just like you and I. Also if people aren’t tracking where nearly all semiconductors are made too plus the increased demand which places stress on chip producers in one of two countries. So all in all it’s not bad for hardware nor software which remains low in cost. At the end of the day gaming provides more entertainment than other forms of entertainment by hour and re-usability. I don’t get why people complain about this luxury hobby.

@Casco Xbox as a subsidiary of MS has not given up. They have been forced to evolve. Since they have windows money plus many multiplat studios they are attempting to redefine what a gaming device or ecosystem is. They are trying to be on many fronts. I think it will be a challenge for them because outside of the Anglo countries people haven’t flocked to Xbox since Xbox one. And to be fair the series consoles with subsidized gamepass are a good deal. I think a more expensive Xbox next generation even with access to a PC library will be a hard sell for many judging by the series consoles performance worldwide.

@BAMozzy and there is nothing wrong with the console competition. People act as if it’s a bad thing. Yet the same people more than likely have sports teams that they follow. Humans like certain brands no matter the industry. Competition brings innovation and I like the companies trying to make compelling reasons for us to get their hardware.

@darylb24 yup! It’s going to need a lot of love since they are using the Toyota corolla game engine that is the UE5. So within the next decade gives them enough time to have it optimized for PS6.

It’s a fun live service game no surprise here. Even though it’s not on subsidized gamepass. Sony should hold all its IPs nearby still. As we don’t really know for sure what MS’s next generation strategy will be despite what they say.

And microsoft is working on two system on chips for whatever the next Xbox will be assuming MS doesn't lease out the rights to other manufacturers to make an Xbox. It will be interesting next generation. As long as Sony launches a PS6 which can be had with a real blu-ray disc drive, I will support the traditional console.

@nessisonett The PS5 is being pushed plenty due to the target resolutions. If it had plenty of overhead its significant library of PS4 games should all run at very high frame rates with a high pixel count. The PS5's approved system on chip that launched to us in 2020 was okay for a two+ year old design by the time it launched. Not saying its not a capable machine, we have horizon and death stranding 2 to show for it. There just isn't going to be some crazy amount of extra power that isn't being used that people are thinking. A pro wouldn't have been launched if that was the case.

Ubisoft appears to need some quick cash! Selling IP’s isn’t a good sign.

@Oram77 big studios have a lot of overhead. Corporations even engineering and software companies mostly aren’t full of engineers and software developers. So they need more revenue to stay afloat. Even if as a consumer it seems greedy which is relative if we are being honest.

@Czar_Khastik last time I checked they don’t have a lot of employees. Just a few men working at the studio last time I checked. They don’t have a big HR department, marketing department etc. Just positions that directly contribute to the end product. Also it is clear that the owner isn’t so concerned about making even more money than he could. Their next title should be very successful if they continue with their lessons learned from the launch of NMS.

@OldGamer999 gaming is a vanity hobby. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. Sony, MS, Nintendo are for profit companies. People want so much out of the gaming industry but don’t want to pay for hardware or new games that should all be priced so low according to them. Then get sad when we hear about layoffs for working professionals in the industry. It’s such a delicate balance but the industry provides so much value for the prices of content/hardware that has to last for several years.

@Can-You-Believe-Sith the PS3 was priced high because it was state of the art and technical powerhouse. It had so much tech built into it and the console had a lot of overhead. The PS4 and PS5 were built cheap from the get go with the mindset of having a decent SOC for the new system’s respectively.

@EfYI long console generations don’t bother me. But if we are to have them then the successor must be a powerhouse with a lot of overhead to last in the long run. Sure Sony wound lose a lot of money in the beginning finding the right price to sell a higher tier medium PC equivalent but people would see the value in a new machine.

I’d like to see an impressive base PS6 SOC at launch. With a good GPU and solid CPU that isn’t weak sauce. That way the console could have more overhead. Should be more expensive to make than the PS5. So it could be equivalent to the placement of the PS3 when it launched as state of the art for the time. But I know that will not happen at all.

@LogicStrikesAgain yes exactly. The PS5 was very mid when it came out. The SOC even for the time wasn’t so special. Sony learned its lesson about making a state of the art console at launch in the PS3 era. There isn’t a lot of overhead left in the PS5 with the resolutions we are targeting. But that isn’t to say that we cannot have pretty games on the PS5. Sonys first party studios show us what is possible and the results are good for the price of this lower mid tier PC equivalent for 500-600$. It’s still a super deal IMHO.

@naruball depends on when ones basic basic PC was built. A medium PC isn’t basic which is what the PS5 is but on the lower end. Lower tier would be considered basic, you know the ones that are prebuilt for normal tasks.

@OldGamer999 well they haven’t had a chance to shine because developers still made games for last generation. Recent games that are only current generation show that we are in a new generation. So I don’t see what others are talking about when they say what we have now is like last generation. People want many pixels so that is what developers are focusing on which requires raw power.