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@RoomWithaMoose It’s all about a balance. Not every company has an appetite for it nor the fiscal bandwidth to do it. Industry costs worldwide can also be to blame. Same for many industries which platform share. I understand smaller studios using off the shelf tools but bigger studios dropping their own tools baffles me. MS for example for halo studios.

It wouldn’t surprise me if this is actually true. These days it’s quite fashionable to not continue popular IPs with another bloke, they always have to be swapped. With God of War, kratos comes to mind immediately. I feel the same for any popular IP whether the main character was a bloke or broad.

I’m really eager to how see optimize it to run on the consoles. For me this has the potential to be the Witcher 3 of this generation for me. The Witcher 3 was playable to me a lunch on the OG Xbox one. So I have higher hopes for this release.

@RoomWithaMoose cost being the primary reason developers use the Toyota corolla engine that is UE. It takes a lot of overhead to make an in-house engine. And bean counters don’t like “overhead.” So it’s cheaper to lease something off the shelf and let the talented developers make do with the tools they have. Custom context driven platforms will always be superior to all in one tools.

Since the blokes whom made the Witcher 3 what it was are gone at the new studio, I have my doubts it could be on the level as content when the studio was whole.

@CRASH64 easy to do with newer hardware of an older game. Not really a flex no matter how many new polygons are added to the “remake.”

@nomither6 not how IPs work. Nintendo is under no obligation to share their IPs. Unlike Sony and especially Microsoft. Nintendo is a video gaming company at its core. They need people to be fully invested into its ecosystem. Brand management is how that is done and keeping up the prestige. Nintendo has done well over the years with its IPs.

@tangyzesty I got a PS5 Pro as I have a feeling that PS6 will be held back for the first several years by the base PS5. So a Pro can seen as a good future proof console for the foreseeable future. That is unless Sony pulls the plug early on cross generation which would be great IMHO.

@lazymike sony is a for profit company. I don’t get the Sony is anti-consumer because they raise prices. Every industry has raised prices way more than the vanity gaming industry. With that said Competition is good and Sony has its work cut out for it for the PS6 with or without MS.

@B-I-G-DEVIL yup many modern gamers expect so much from the hobby. All while thinking the hobby needs to be priced still like the 90s and early 2000s. People want access to it all for nearly nothing. Employees of gaming companies need good compensation for their talents otherwise they will go somewhere else. It’s a delicate balance. Sony’s decisions have been frustrating this generation. Unfortunately normal people within a corporation suffer for what was decided at the top.

Even so gaming is still cheap and provides a lot of value for the dollar. The prices of gaming hardware and software haven’t kept up with inflation like every other industry. They should just make the unit more expensive while also offsetting the cost. As R/D plus development costs will still go up. People are so fixated on a price being the same for gaming. Yet companies are still in the real world and have the same expenses as every other industry. It’s not like the console hardware is treated like a “smart” phone which comes irrelevant so quickly because companies want people to get the newest hardware the next year.

@Boxmonkey the facilities in North America and Europe are still a drop in the bucket compared to east Asia. The new facilities in the west will help with the continued increased demand but we won’t see a huge momentum shift for several decades. As the capacity will still be pathetic compared to east Asia. It’s going to take several years of continued investment in the west for these facilities all while east Asia continues to expand their capacity. It’s not impossible for the west I’m just skeptical we will stick to it for several decades considering people sold out for higher profit margins. By people I mean those at the top.

@PuppetMaster people are too accustomed to fluff and artificially inflated likes due to society hiding dislike or opinions which aren’t accepted. Not every game will be highly rated. People need to get over the mindset that average equals bad. In a 100 base rating scheme. Anything over 50 is average. High 60s isn’t bad. Lastly people need to form their own opinions and enjoy what interests them and not be so susceptible to the opinions of others that they don’t know personally.

@get2sammyb perhaps it really is as people state. We are too used to likes and not enough dislikes. In fact many places have hidden the dislikes in order to usher a utopian society.

@Sakai yikes! I thought that leaked release for the PS6 SOC wasn’t real. I didn’t think the specs were impressive at all. But I agree with everything you said. Guess the PS6 pro will be what the PS6 base should be. Wishful thinking I just wanted them to launch such a solid base console that will be able to keep up for several years.

@Andy22385 modern gamers want a free lunch and many obviously don’t work in engineering or tech to understand the cost to power requirements. Hobbies costs money and one isn’t entitled to them. With that said consoles are such a good deal in terms of value provided and longevity.

Delay it for as long as possible. That way the specs can be better. Especially considering that we are just now finally seeing games for this current generation only. If a PS6 comes out too soon it will be a cross generation only experience. Also Sony please come up with a new font. I miss the PS3 Spider-Man font.

@Dimey well they had to come out with something since the studio doesn’t have anything to really show for this generation except the PS5 port of the PS4 god of war title. So something is better than nothing for fans of the series I suppose.

Do people really care about digital trophies lol? I’ve never been one to even care for physical trophies either. As for gaming i thought the gamer score was cooler which MS came up with. Never in PSN have I looked at sometimes trophies. But a gamerscore stood out more for those that care.

Lines between consoles aren’t blurring. Only the Microsoft has that strategy as they have been way behind worldwide since the Xbox one. And the Anglosphere mostly only supports Xbox, so MS tried to appeal more wide. Sony and Nintendo manage their platforms better because they want people to buy their hardware. As it’s not like they have operating systems on most of the world’s electronics as a stable income.

Will Xbox publishing studios actually put the full game on a PS5 disc? I don’t want a few bytes of data on a disc.

@weeniebeenie subsidized gamepass doesn’t require one to buy it. Money will be made mostly from the PS console base. High profile day one subsidized gamepass titles hasn’t helped them out.

For some reason I thought this game was much further away from launch! This article was a surprise!

Of course PC is more interesting for developer. There are more niche games on PC that will have much smaller install bases which console developers don’t bother with. Even in the glorious past generations PC had more games. Quantity is one thing but quality is another thing too. PC isn’t as a 1 to 1 direct competitor like many people allude to.

@Americansamurai1 the reality tariffs or not, semiconductors are made almost exclusively in one of two countries. The west barely makes them and when they do a high percentage go to the defense industry or automotive industry. Also consumer electronics demand hasn’t decreased since Covid. It’s more expensive to manufacture these chips as so many goods need chips.

@AgentMantis the story was so boring IMO for cyberpunk. But man the gameplay more than made up for it. It’s the best first person shooter I’ve ever played. I had real reservations when they said it was first person a few years back.

Of course. Subsidized gamepass doesn’t allow for big studios to make the most money at launch of big popular games. As the xbox base doesn’t really have to buy any games. Especially considering many say gamepass is expensive haha.

People almost exclusively tried this game on subsidized Xbox gamepass. Many didn’t buy (rent) it digitally at full MSRP haha. Every game that comes to PS from the publisher MS will actually count towards breaking even if they haven’t already.

@LifeGirl great game but yea I’ll always side with humanity on this. As it’s just a robot. No matter how far humanity can make a robot appear to be a human, it’s just a machine. Just like the blade runner universe.

@Leetware1 it’s all subjective. It’s just funny to me reading about people complaining about the costs of gaming which is a luxury hobby at the end of the day. Then get mad when MS wants to increase the costs for subsidized gamepass. Even if most don’t like what they offer as a publisher, Sony and Nintendo don’t put their new games out for free essentially. The car analogy is not good. As a Lamborghini is better than a FWD 4 cylinder car like nearly everyone has and it costs more. Games generally cost the same new. The Witcher 3 and RDR2 launched with the same price new last generation just like old school fighting games which require less development. IMO RPGs should be more!

As a hitman fan it looks fine but as a classic bond fan it does not move the needle at all. This is like the kids pop version of the bond universe to me.

A great PS4 game! Hopefully they take all the lessons learned and have grand plans for GT8. I hope GT8 is not backwards cross generation.

@yohn777 I can see that angle but still man even if people don’t like any games Xbox studios publishes, it’s still a good deal. As those games would be 70$ new or more.

@AdamNovice why do people complain about the cost of subsidized gamepass? It’s so cheap. Even if it was 100$ a month it would still be a steal. I guess people expect things for free in the gaming industry these days. I just don’t get it.

Looks alone I prefer the previous Johana Dark’s. As soon as I saw the trailer for this one it appeared right in line for developers in the west. The game didn’t seem like a perfect dark zero but something else. Not saying this something else would be bad but I was expecting them to make a cool game like perfect dark zero was. The music and ethos of that game was good for X360.

@Jswift56 what matters is the people. Rare hasn’t been the rare we all grew up with for several years now especially under Microsoft’s lack of leadership.

@get2sammyb closer to a real life “umbrella corporation.”

PS4 and Xbox one held the generation back during the first four years not the series s. Series s is an excuse since PS is significantly more popular this generation. Nothing more.

Every country does tariffs. Even without the USA changing the business environment which has caused other realms to complain, the reality is that nearly all semi conductors are made in one of two countries. In which one country wants to change that fact. Another reality is that demand for consumer electronics has increased so much. As other places on the planet get more money, people want more electronics. And SOCs still take time to make. It’s really quite simple economics. The anglo lead west has itself to blame for sending key Industries abroad specifically in joint venture China. All for profits yesterday when China was thinking long term. So now we just have to take it. As it takes time to build plants especially when there aren’t a lot of plants that make the tools to make planets within the realm. Short sighted thinking is what we have to pay for.

Shadow drops for remasters of popular older games sure.

Translation by going multiplat, Xbox studios will make more money outside of the subsidized gamepass model. So developers have more of a safety net. More of is relative as MS has closed successful before once they acquire them.

I’m sure select fans whom love tech will get this device. I just don’t see it being as successful if it isn’t the same as the current generation consoles. What will be interesting is how Microsoft will do its next generation hardware as I think this steam box will be closely watched by them.

@nessisonett gains from expensive new hardware are worth it. Stronger CPU’s and more bespoke hardware allows for developers to create the in game experience that they conceptualize. It’s not correct to dismiss power upgrades for hardware. Sure normal people will not notice the technology underneath if the hardware is only leveraged to add more polygons for last generation games. Which has largely been the case this generation. But current generation only games justify the new hardware. New electronics are expensive. Console gamers can complain all they want but console gaming is still the best deal for entertainment money to hours wise. Funny thing is many will happily finance a new 4 figure phone then re-finance to get the new one or a pro one the next year. Lastly I will say that it’s not like the PS5 will go away over night when the PS6 comes out. I hope the PS6 has good enough specs to last 8 years. As it won’t be until halfway through its life that it will receive current generation games only for it.

@Balaam_ definitely not the best and it’s not just Sony that needs to be roasted. Collectivity the gaming industry is at a low right now. As the suit types have taken away the love for the art in pursuit of the next big thing. Courtesy of the marvel effect. In which every entertainment executive only wants big profit products ideally just one or two. What made previous generations enjoyable was the fact that many games came out and studios were willing to make lesser smaller games in between big budget ambitions projects. And it was okay as long as titles could make some money but that isn’t good to many executives these days.

Console gaming is more popular than ever! It’s not that the PS5 is so good this generation. Sony really has had it easy due to Microsoft’s incompetence and inconsistency. So many people know PlayStation.

@Rich33 for me previous generous were much better because of the sheer amount of games than came out to suit everyone’s tastes. This generation for me hasn’t really had anything that peeks my interest and if it did too much content which I don’t want to see in my entertainment. I mostly use my PS5 and series X to play last generation titles. I really hope that the next four years will have more current generation only titles that bring some of the passion back for gaming.

@Oram77 I’m in the minority whom doesn’t care for yet another super hero product. Wolverine is a 20th century creation. I want to see new things or love to other don’t IPs left hanging. I get it this generation hasn’t had its own kratos product. I hope the last years of PS5 turn into a PS3 situation. Perhaps we’ll have to wait for the PS6 because of the live service gamble.

@andrewsqual it’s as simple as reducing the graphics on the series s. The series s has a stronger CPU than the PS5. Remember it’s the PS4 and Xbox one that held back this generation.

Yea sure. Such a weak sauce argument. Software as a service for everything means that more data centers need to be built. In case many aren’t aware, there are many data centers being built across the world and many more will be built. As programs grow in size so do hardware requirements. Which means more earth being used for these centers, more resources plus more energy. And nearly all semiconductors are still made in China or Taiwan then put on dirty ships. I will keep buying physical media for as long as it’s offered i don’t care about price. Don’t let these corporations force consumers into a corner for their convenience in which we own nothing.

@Boxmonkey Microsoft’s long term goal is SaaS for all of their IP. In which one just has a connection to a VDI which connects to their hardware somewhere in the world. No ownership. Microsoft is a publisher now so of course they won’t limit to one medium. Sony has a harder job to remain relevant as they don’t have an in to the PC or Linux world with their own software having market share. So they need to justify the existence of PS to fans. Which luckily for them there are enough buyers still whom want out of the box decent power plug and play.