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@PuppetMaster well they have 1.5 years to give us one under current Sony policy for the PS5.

Delay it by three years and create a more powerful chipset. The rumored leaked specs from a few months ago was weak sauce. Better to wait for a PS6 pro. As a launch PS6 will likely just be littered with cross generation games that can run at native 4K at 120 fps. I’m sure last of us part I will be remastered and have a “special” digital only release haha.

@Andy22385 exactly mate. But hey people will have to learn the hard way. With digital corporations will completely control the narrative. People voted with their wallets and have been okay for paying for digital console games. Despite them costing the same as physical. I hope they don’t lower digital prices and increase them. Rockstar set the trend now.

No surprise. It’s a linear game with less going on in the background. Every game could theoretically be 60 fps at any desired resolution. Just won’t have the best graphics and in game systems depending on the hardware.

@TheArt there is no incentive for digital prices to go down. They aren’t lower today even with physical being available. Server equipment and energy costs increase each year. Therefore prices need to be what they are. Besides digital products don’t have a shelf life unlike physical goods which take up space. People have proven for consoles the past several years that they have no problem with price of digital games for consoles. So they will keep them the same and increase them. Which I hope they do.

It’s rare when DLC gets included for a physical release even for a complete edition. DLC since the X360/PS3 era has largely been digital it’s in the name. It doesn’t bother me so much that additional content is for download. As I seldom buy DLC anyways. As long as the complete game as it stands today is put onto the blu-ray, it will be a win for us physical owners.

If no physical no pre-order from me.

And it’s digital only too! So already horrible deal haha. No way to ever play GTA 6 for cheap since it’s digital only and tied to one account. But hey this is the all digital future people want. Hope everyone enjoys high prices for digital games! And hopefully no digital sales discounts either! As server equipment isn’t cheap!

It didn’t even sell so well on Xbox. No multiplayer coupled with how the three new missions have been roasted. For 50$ with multiplayer it would have sold more. Most of us whom have an Xbox also still have the Master Chief Collection, which has multiplayer.

Yes yes, corporations will take the path of least resistance to make their profits larger. Same for the auto industry in which the masses have been convinced touchscreens are better for them. Better for car makers as it’s cheaper per unit to not have buttons as those designs are more complex. Nothing to be happy about having less consumer choices for the herd.

@AI-Generation and tearing up more earth to make trendy AI data centers and more data centers in general is not better. See we are moving things out of site out of mind to appear to care for the environment. Same for BEVs which require a comical amount of resources for one giant battery. Humanity has a consumption problem no matter which way we go.

I was wondering about this game since I haven’t seen any pre-orders.

Disgusting! Every person that paid for their PS5 regardless of the version should not have to deal with this. Unless someone rented a PS5 from Sony with a very low rate then ads can be deemed acceptable IMHO. Ownership means nothing these days. Everyone should be upset about this. Read an article recently about BMW putting spider man ads in people’s personal cars. Ridiculous. People please wake up! Reject this nonsense

@SBBuds I think that price is a dream. Reasonable priced is whatever the break even or barely break even price point is for a corp. unless western nations have serious chip production in the next few years then the current realities will persist. And the west won’t get serious production anytime soon. Going to take decades and a consistent plan. Which means relying on China and Taiwan to fill the world demand. Lastly there are bigger players than gaming companies whom bid for chip allocations.

Time to buy another disk drive and a pro just for safe keeping. No thanks to a digital only console. Worthless for safe keeping and longevity for the family. People need to demand actual digital rights for console gaming since the mob loves digital for some reason.

@UnlimitedSevens I’ve been buying any new physical game that interests me. Even new ones that I have a remote interest in. Just in case I change my mind later. I’ve been doing the same for both consoles. I’ll do this until Sonys declares end date.

@get2sammyb let people continue to protest if they wish. I see nothing wrong with people complaining. Kudos to people whom voice their displeasure to corporations. Corps aren’t real people.

Prices have to be this way due to many factors. Like inflation, which the gaming industry hasn’t kept up with over the past two decades. Then there is the worldwide demand for consumer electronics. I could go on. China and Taiwan can set whatever price they want for companies. People forgot that a basic car has gone up just as rent too. This isn’t exclusive to gaming. Everything has gone up since the 2000s. For us normal folks life has always been a grind throughout the ages. The reality is that gaming has always been a luxury hobby. Even in the 90s and early 2000s.

@themightyant gaming hasn’t kept up with inflation over the past two decades. Couple that with the fact that everyone wants consumer electronics and more countries become affluent across the world. All while chips are almost exclusively made in two countries.

And this is why the entertainment industry will continue to almost exclusively favor big established IPs from last century. Big bucks to be made. People continue to support these films. Same for gaming. Big AAAA or AAA games are the goal.

@PercyChuggs false! There is still a Blu-ray demand for new and old films. If there is a film I want to see I buy it on blu-ray or 4K. 4Ks are more expensive but so worth the price!

@Dman10 not the same mate. They never stopped shipping CDs, vinyl, DVDs and blu-rays. Despite people preferring the easy digital option. With gaming they are forcing everyone to go all in on digital consoles which need the internet.

@zockermiller it’s square Enix a disc version needs to be on the table. As we know sells won’t be enough for them! So they need every paying customer they can summon across all mediums.

Should change to article title to our forced digital future. Right now there is no incentive for them to change as consumers are okay with the current arrangement. Once physical media goes away people will want a better digital model. Until then I think most people will just accept the internet of everything model with no ownership.

Was going to buy but decided against it after seeing what I suspected they would do for the three new missions. I’ll keep enjoying the master chief collection.

@add286 there still is money in physical. This is all about controlling the market completely and taking away power from consumers. One have no choice but to play by the rules of all of these corporations. Digital only in an internet of everything world forces normal people to comply. Each passing year is just more wins for corporations.

I don’t care what the flock does regards to how they purchase. The flock doesn’t see the writing on the wall and just accepts the internet of everything thrown at it. If physical media isn’t offered to me as a premium for consoles. Then I won’t be a console gamer anymore.

@Balaam_ adding to your analogy, with renting one has to accept the price or walk away.

@Silenos AI was so rubbish in Far Cry 2! Stealth and using the sniper from a far didn’t matter haha. Far Cry 3 was so much bigger IMHO.

@TheDarts exactly. I remember my father getting my brother and I an Xbox. We played it on our little CRT TV. Game was unbelievable for us at the time for a console especially. Like you said putting more polygons with better hardware is to be expected for graphics. I don’t see what there is to feel good about considering the game is old. Easy work to do to remake others work which was from generations ago. Halo on the OG Xbox was special. Just as Killzone 2 really showed what the PS3 could do.

Corporate slop talk. The consoles are the most accessible now with digital plus physical media. Those that have families can get used games from retailers in person or online. Nothing stopping anyone from getting digital today. I know corporations aren’t people and are just entities. But come on stop deceiving people!

Won’t change my opinion at all. Still going to buy physical media. I.e 4K UHDs, CDs, records, books. Make physical games 85$+ with a full booklet, plus full playable game. I’ll buy. I have no problem paying a premium for physical just like I do with other mediums. There is still a market. Even if physical goes upmarket, there are people like me who will pay. There are enthusiasts for every hobby whom want the real deal and ownership.

@UltimateOtaku91 meanwhile people pay the same price for their digital end user agreement license which costs the same on consoles as the same physical game. People prefer the easiness of online shopping. Even malls don’t see the traffic like they used to before online shopping really took off. If anything people would flock to second hand games more if price was really the problem. Which it isn’t.

@wildcat_kickz doesn’t necessarily mean it will be weaker than a PS5. Remember the PS5 SOC is over 7+ years old. Probably 8 or 9 when the actually approved and tested the final chipset. In terms of semiconductor production over the past nine years we can put more transistors on a chip. Which means a smaller form factor can be made with PS5 equivalent power. Smaller form factor electronics will always be weaker than bigger electronics made in the same year. It’s just a physics problem for what we can do today. Now with the power saving mode just see it as a user choosing to save more of his battery life. Developers will have to do some coding to get the game to run on whatever final hardware this handheld will have. (Unless they just shrink the PS5 SOC entirely and call it a PS6 handheld with no new tech updates) It most likely will be similar to the console just so it will keep development costs as low as possible. Lastly think of when a smart phone is put in power savings mode. For mine the screen refresh rate is severely reduced and other functions reduced. For the consoles the power saving mode while engaged in a game is hilarious to me!

@Barry_vV that’s fair mate! Final Fantasy X was huge for that era!

Vice City and San Andreas were great. The features.

I hope people keep bringing it up. As it’s little effort to voice one’s opinion on a digital platform at Sony. Also Sony needs to communicate to its fans. I know many digital people claim they don’t care for Physical but they should. Digital EUAs are a joke plus the pricing too. Needs to be a serious discussion about the internet of everything (IoT) always connected digital world which is what these tech companies want. No ownership or true downloads. It’s a horrible precedent.

@Old-Red don’t they include DLC also? DLC has been digital mostly since the X360/PS3 era. Unless a company releases a full physical version. As I physical only purchaser, I do sometimes get DLC as not every company releases a full physical game. I loved when CDPR did for the Witcher 3 for example. I digress.

@Barry_vV what’s your other top? I feel the same about the Witcher 3.

@Lolwutz trolls gets thrown around often when normies step out of line for an approved narrative. Most people like me aren’t trolls for voicing our opinions against this corporation. We have valid concerns. My camp has been able to read between the lines with the digital only future for internet of everything.

Digital only for a Sony console at their present state is a no go for me. I don’t care what the numbers are for people whom love to pay for overpriced digital licenses. I’m still going to support physical for everything media related that I like. If MS wanted some positive coverage their next console would have an optional disc drive which can be acquired separately. Even if they treat their own games as physical key cards. Better than Sony plans for the PS6.

@Bamila emphasis on game(s) plural. We could have had A, B, And C games with that budget plus a Killzone trilogy remaster. Sigh

@ShadowRJ reviews (mainstream) are one thing. Customers buying a product are another. The later is what matters for a business. A professor once told our class that the technically superior and impressive product doesn’t always sell. Same for games.

17 million sells would be impressive with no subsidized Xbox and PC gamepass.

@MrPeanutbutterz yea all of these 20th century superhero stuff has been so boring to me. It’s a shame the studio cannot do more of their own IP.

Let us stop using the word “toxic” for everything. Very soft modern society. Critic of a corporations decisions isn’t toxic same for people. Toxic has a stronger meaning.

@wildcat_kickz there has to be space for smaller games and blockbusters. Previous console generations had this. Executives were not afraid to allow smaller projects to be created. The mistake was putting everything on subsidized gamepass, propping up titles which wouldn’t sell on their own. Giving studios a false sense of reality in the market. Which the Xbox subsidiary lost money for, which is why they are cleaning up shop.

No surprise. Avowed wasn’t as popular as they expected it to be. Especially being a day 1 Xbox subsidized gamepass title for free. Sells matter.

@Dragon83 they really need to decrease production times for these types of short linear games to just a few years like in previous generations. While keeping the quality so more can get to the market.

@Rich33 yea the time dynamic thing for saving the family I didn’t like. I forgot exactly how they worded it recently but the way it is will still allow for exploration.

@Oram77 A team Witcher 3 developers and executives it should be stated. Studios are nothing more than a name without the talent that put them on the map. Not saying CDPR doesn’t have anymore talent though. Just that the ethos will be different judging by their hiring and how they are today. So most likely not for me.