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@Sulleymonster my thoughts exactly. The developers probably liked how the game played upon release. They release their game and the core audience didn’t like some things. They adjusted and listened to their fans. At least they are humble enough about it.

@twitchtvpat my points exactly. Modern gamers expect consoles and games to cost nothing. Or better yet be free while offering so much! Personally I think games should cost more! As developers require increased compensation just like you and I.

Consoles are still cheap and gaming remains a good value. People pay more for phones and other vanity goods which they don’t hang on to. I’ve said it before on this site. It costs money to get production allocations in China or Taiwan. The only two countries which have the production capacity for semiconductors. Worldwide demand for consumer electronics has also gone up. So those two countries get to set the tone for pricing. Until manufacturing gets cheaper by other places getting serious capacity this will be the norm for chip production. At the end of the day, gaming is a vanity hobby. Hobbies aren’t cheap and it costs money. I want Sony to continue to be in the business and have money to innovate. Things like PSSR cost money for their teams to develop. Nothing is free.

@carlos82 gaming has still remained cheap over the past several decades. People make more than they did three decades ago and inflation has gone up too. Yet consoles have remained rather steady. For the value these machines provide and for how long they are expected to last, console manufacturers do such a good job.

Game is good. My favorite RPG last generation the Witcher 3 didn’t run the best on the base consoles but the experience was still phenomenal. Generation pushing RPGs should be given more grace! As each generation the engineers and designers push the envelope and move the needle. Especially compared to other safe genres.

@MidlifeCrisis this is why I don’t place any weight on reviews. As there are games that are praised on this site like the Sony Astrobot game. For me that type of game is beneath consideration. Reviews and scores take away from the various game genres. I wish people would just play what games interest them if they deem them playable. Let us return to enjoying the art form of gaming. There is something for nearly everyone at this point.

AI is nothing new. People have been using specialized software for a while now. I don’t see the problem with using AI for a fake fantasy game. How about people be mad about how the lack of privacy laws got companies like google rich and now they aim to keep their leverage.
And what do people expect? It’s a massive game. I expect more studios to use procedural generation (AI) to take care of mundane things in a game world. People already complain about the cost of new games. So studios are leveraging many tools. I still wish them success.

Congratulations to the team! Glad to hear that they sold this much and said it clearly. Not some bragging about subscription player count. This is a big feat for an RPG game like this.

@Futureshark nah! I hope it remains full priced as it’s an RPG. Besides the more money the studios make brand new per unit, the more time and backing they have for new projects. I don’t understand this wanting a title so soon to be nearly free in this day and age. Then tomorrow people will outcry when people lose their job in this industry.

@Aleksei yea man I don’t understand the outrage for this game. The YouTube title is so misleading. I think it looks good like a current generation game. Definitely not possible for last generation.

I think the game looks good for the PS5! Especially considering how old the PS SOC is! The team will only improve. At least it’s playable at launch just like the Witcher 3 was last generation. And that game wasn’t smooth for last generations base consoles.

@Alps_Stranger I disagree mate. Ambitious games tend to struggle for current generation hardware every time they are released. Like this for every generation. Last generation it was the Witcher 3. I loved the game so much and thought it was playable on my Xbox one. I didn’t care at all what others said. Now people are obsessed with critic outlets like FPS foundry and cannot appreciate the art that studios put out. Then there is modern gamers not wanting to pay a high price for strong hardware to last a generation. Sony learned its lesson with the bespoke expensive for the time cell engine. I think people are really overreacting for this particular title.

If people make their choices based on what normies say in life, one will miss out on many experiences. People need to stop putting so much weight on these reviews from any journalist and stop idolizing publications opinions. The reviews being over 50% means the game isn’t horrible. Back in my favorite generation which was the PS3/X360 most games would get roasted by the modern crowd. Yet there was so much variety for every gamer. Now this marvel 0 or 100 mindset has polarized the industry. I’m still excited for this current generation game. As the world is more full unlike last generations Witcher 3 which set the tone for that generation. It’s also hard to beat books which are based upon centuries old mythology. Anyways the scores are fine and never tell the full story.

@DennisReynolds anything over 50% means something is liked or good! People need to get over this utopian mindset that everything needs to be 100% liked. This isn’t grade school.

@Oram77 ideally it would have native support! For those of us that still have our discs this is really desired. Native PS2 support would be ideal also.

@Othatguy that’s fair. Personally it’s worth it for me. As the anticipated game for me has been crimson dessert and I like what the pro can do for it. I’m glad the pro had success as it’s the test bed for the PS6. Also I really think that the PS6 will be cross generation for the first few years. So the pro will hold me over. Until they start making PS6 games only largely I will wait to cross over to next generation. For everyone’s sake, I hope that I’m working and that PS6 becomes current generation only very early into its generation.

@SeanOhOgain people shouldn’t put frames per second digital foundry on such a pedestal. Let them focus on being critics of others coding and game engines. They are good at talking about the tech and presenting how OTHERs works perform.

Unfortunate that companies are going this way. Those of us that want real physical understand that there will be continuous patches. Just give us the full game version for whenever the disc was written to. I hate the internet of everything mindset.

@ButterySmooth30FPS that’s not the point. I can plug up my OG Big boy 60gb PS3 to play with younger people in my family. No internet needed. The gross to me being beholden to the internet to get games that I paid for physically.

Sony is in a strong position with the PS5. Why are we so worried about the PS6?! It will come. And it seems like the last 1.5 years we just got current generation only games. I would have a different tune if this generation wasn’t cross generation mostly. The only thing Sony has to fear is if the next Xbox is priced like a PS5 PRO very powerful than their planned SOC, MS goes back to exclusives plus PC library, and sales take off among consumers. But that would require a unified consistent long term MS strategy. Even so MS has a huge uphill battle to climb outside of the Anglosphere. As PS is more of a worldly brand.

I’m glad they released the console specs. We still want to see how it looks with the same action scenes as the PC version. I.e. will the same density of enemies be present in castle battles for example that they have shown. And now downgraded the graphics are to keep the listed specs. People are just curious including myself.

@JDINCINERATOR nah he’s a warrior and is better suited to marry a lady!

The next Xbox will be a PC so it has to be very powerful. PC development isn’t made for a specific setup. By MS not having some exclusives that cater to their custom PC they won’t show it off properly. Developers will optimize for the two consoles and do a PC build. In which it will be up to the end user for how they want their Xbox game to run. I hope MS has other things up their sleeve for the console experience. I’ll stay positive as I like competition.

Silly. Why would they need to break their PS6 silence? Sony is in a good position with the PS5. This generation has been mismanaged for them built upon the grace of the PS4. They are lucky that MS has mismanaged Xbox for the past decade. Let Sony focus on the PS5 experience and giving us cool games. As just now we are getting good current generation only content.

I’m sure it will easily push 120 FPS at 4K since it will be a gross generation affair well into its lifespan. We can expect to see the last of us remastered again and other PS4 games. Bespoke PS6 games which are ambitions won’t be able to run that easy unless designers go for simple graphics. Technically PS5 can do 120 FPS at 4K if even 8K. But designers won’t be able to make the most robust game that people would feel is current generation. I’d rather developers use more power to create more in depth game worlds. The pixel count doesn’t make the game for me.

@AverageGamer yes I’m tracking that MS owns the halo IP. I’m being serious I had no idea that destiny is that popular! My friends and I grew up playing halo, none of us latched onto to destiny. Anyways, Sony needs some wins with FPS games. So they must knock it out the park with destiny 3. Should have let bungie do something with Killzone instead of marathon!

Oh wow! I didn’t realize Sony paid 3 billion for Bungie?! They don’t even own the Halo IP lol. I doubt marathon will be able to make the money that they seek in the time span bean counters will be satisfied with. These live service games are such a gamble. Are style would have been better used for their own “cyberpunk” style game IMHO.

I’m really looking forward to this game. I agree with others that it’s odd to not have footage this late till release. Also deceiving with the PC version to have the PS controller layout buttons shown on screen. I’ll be optimistic that this game will be playable at launch.

@1970sGamer it’s partly why I bought a pro. As I have a strong feeling that PS6 will be cross generation for its first several years. Us PS5 pro owners will not miss much I suspect. Just like the first four years of PS5. Of course I hope that i will be completely wrong and that Sony has many good things in store for the PS6.

@RoomWithaMoose It’s all about a balance. Not every company has an appetite for it nor the fiscal bandwidth to do it. Industry costs worldwide can also be to blame. Same for many industries which platform share. I understand smaller studios using off the shelf tools but bigger studios dropping their own tools baffles me. MS for example for halo studios.

It wouldn’t surprise me if this is actually true. These days it’s quite fashionable to not continue popular IPs with another bloke, they always have to be swapped. With God of War, kratos comes to mind immediately. I feel the same for any popular IP whether the main character was a bloke or broad.

I’m really eager to how see optimize it to run on the consoles. For me this has the potential to be the Witcher 3 of this generation for me. The Witcher 3 was playable to me a lunch on the OG Xbox one. So I have higher hopes for this release.

@RoomWithaMoose cost being the primary reason developers use the Toyota corolla engine that is UE. It takes a lot of overhead to make an in-house engine. And bean counters don’t like “overhead.” So it’s cheaper to lease something off the shelf and let the talented developers make do with the tools they have. Custom context driven platforms will always be superior to all in one tools.

Since the blokes whom made the Witcher 3 what it was are gone at the new studio, I have my doubts it could be on the level as content when the studio was whole.

@CRASH64 easy to do with newer hardware of an older game. Not really a flex no matter how many new polygons are added to the “remake.”

@nomither6 not how IPs work. Nintendo is under no obligation to share their IPs. Unlike Sony and especially Microsoft. Nintendo is a video gaming company at its core. They need people to be fully invested into its ecosystem. Brand management is how that is done and keeping up the prestige. Nintendo has done well over the years with its IPs.

@tangyzesty I got a PS5 Pro as I have a feeling that PS6 will be held back for the first several years by the base PS5. So a Pro can seen as a good future proof console for the foreseeable future. That is unless Sony pulls the plug early on cross generation which would be great IMHO.

@lazymike sony is a for profit company. I don’t get the Sony is anti-consumer because they raise prices. Every industry has raised prices way more than the vanity gaming industry. With that said Competition is good and Sony has its work cut out for it for the PS6 with or without MS.

@B-I-G-DEVIL yup many modern gamers expect so much from the hobby. All while thinking the hobby needs to be priced still like the 90s and early 2000s. People want access to it all for nearly nothing. Employees of gaming companies need good compensation for their talents otherwise they will go somewhere else. It’s a delicate balance. Sony’s decisions have been frustrating this generation. Unfortunately normal people within a corporation suffer for what was decided at the top.

Even so gaming is still cheap and provides a lot of value for the dollar. The prices of gaming hardware and software haven’t kept up with inflation like every other industry. They should just make the unit more expensive while also offsetting the cost. As R/D plus development costs will still go up. People are so fixated on a price being the same for gaming. Yet companies are still in the real world and have the same expenses as every other industry. It’s not like the console hardware is treated like a “smart” phone which comes irrelevant so quickly because companies want people to get the newest hardware the next year.

@Boxmonkey the facilities in North America and Europe are still a drop in the bucket compared to east Asia. The new facilities in the west will help with the continued increased demand but we won’t see a huge momentum shift for several decades. As the capacity will still be pathetic compared to east Asia. It’s going to take several years of continued investment in the west for these facilities all while east Asia continues to expand their capacity. It’s not impossible for the west I’m just skeptical we will stick to it for several decades considering people sold out for higher profit margins. By people I mean those at the top.

@PuppetMaster people are too accustomed to fluff and artificially inflated likes due to society hiding dislike or opinions which aren’t accepted. Not every game will be highly rated. People need to get over the mindset that average equals bad. In a 100 base rating scheme. Anything over 50 is average. High 60s isn’t bad. Lastly people need to form their own opinions and enjoy what interests them and not be so susceptible to the opinions of others that they don’t know personally.

@get2sammyb perhaps it really is as people state. We are too used to likes and not enough dislikes. In fact many places have hidden the dislikes in order to usher a utopian society.

@Sakai yikes! I thought that leaked release for the PS6 SOC wasn’t real. I didn’t think the specs were impressive at all. But I agree with everything you said. Guess the PS6 pro will be what the PS6 base should be. Wishful thinking I just wanted them to launch such a solid base console that will be able to keep up for several years.

@Andy22385 modern gamers want a free lunch and many obviously don’t work in engineering or tech to understand the cost to power requirements. Hobbies costs money and one isn’t entitled to them. With that said consoles are such a good deal in terms of value provided and longevity.

Delay it for as long as possible. That way the specs can be better. Especially considering that we are just now finally seeing games for this current generation only. If a PS6 comes out too soon it will be a cross generation only experience. Also Sony please come up with a new font. I miss the PS3 Spider-Man font.

@Dimey well they had to come out with something since the studio doesn’t have anything to really show for this generation except the PS5 port of the PS4 god of war title. So something is better than nothing for fans of the series I suppose.

Do people really care about digital trophies lol? I’ve never been one to even care for physical trophies either. As for gaming i thought the gamer score was cooler which MS came up with. Never in PSN have I looked at sometimes trophies. But a gamerscore stood out more for those that care.

Lines between consoles aren’t blurring. Only the Microsoft has that strategy as they have been way behind worldwide since the Xbox one. And the Anglosphere mostly only supports Xbox, so MS tried to appeal more wide. Sony and Nintendo manage their platforms better because they want people to buy their hardware. As it’s not like they have operating systems on most of the world’s electronics as a stable income.

Will Xbox publishing studios actually put the full game on a PS5 disc? I don’t want a few bytes of data on a disc.