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It's not so much the story telling I find repetitive, it's more just how repetitive Sony's first party games are (Not counting second party or just published. They're all basically third-person action adventure games with fairly similar mechanics.

It feels like we used to get far more variety, but with Japan Studio and Evolution Studios closed (along with others), and Media Molecule potentially on the brink, Sony's games feel very samey.

Not super bothered about this one. Would have considered it more if I wasn't busy and there weren't tons of other games coming out.

That is absolutely unhinged behaviour.

Would be cool if they made new games in some of these old series, which they could sell for less than the book.

I'm not sure if I'm even really that surprised.

@PuppetMaster To clarify, with something like Bubsy 3D I have seen a number of reviews on it, and seen plenty of gameplay footage. All the reviews say the same thing, and I don't need to play the game to understand how bad the controls, camera and level design are. Fair that I should preface my statement by saying I haven' played the game, but I really don't think I'll be preventing someone from experiencing their Super Mario Galaxy. Obviously playing a game makes your opinion more valid, but you don't necessarily need to play a game to form an opinion on it. I bet lots of people never played something like Hatred or No Mercy, but have an opinion on it.

I get what you're saying and in an ideal world that would happen, but realistically no one is ever going give every single pro and con for every game they play. Like I'm not gonna list every single flaw for every game I love when recommending. I'm not realistically always gonna say "I love Bloodborne and wholeheartedly recommend it, but beware farming blood vials can be a pain". I get your logic and I should, but no one is doing that. I don't deny there are stupid reviews, but reading the reviews is important. If you don't get the game because you read "This is a w*ke game with golf club. 0/10" that's kind of on you. In the same vein, as people saying "This is an amazing game, the only reason people dislike it is because their sexist, bigoted and can't handle Joel dying". It's a complete misunderstanding of why people don't like the game, and hopefully would be disregarded.

@Ilovecoffee I wouldn't want to bump into you in a dark alley.

@LogicStrikesAgain Yeah I can't think of any other major gripes that aren't narrative, other than it just goes on for too long. I think also there were way too many long sections of just walking and talking, but they weren't interesting or engaging.

I wouldn't say the narrative is all bad, because I would be lying if I said I wasn't invested, but it is absolutely inferior to that of the first game.

And I think we're on the same page, as long as you're not outright lying it's fair to give any recommendation about a game, and likewise fair to disagree with that recommendation so people can be better informed.

@Lowdefal Aha that's fair, certainly could have done better. I'd be all for a sequel though.

@get2sammyb https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/12/shuhei-yoshida-never-say-never-on-a-playstation-all-stars-sequel-insomniac-creating-an-xbox-one-exclusive-is-part-of-growing-up/

It sold over one million units, and Shuhei Yoshida said it did "quite well". Definitely not as successful as Smash Bros, but I don't know where people get the idea that it completely bombed.

@PuppetMaster There are far many more reasons that what you have mentioned that make for a warning to not play a game. As far as I know Bubsy 3D doesn't technically have game breaking issues or a need to play the previous games. Assuming it doesn't have those issues, I know not to play it because it is simply a bad game for multiple reasons. I haven't played so maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think it would be unreasonable to advise against playing.

I don't agree with pressuring people into not playing a game, but it cuts both ways. If it's fair to recommend playing a game, it's fair to recommend against playing. No one is forcing or stopping anyone to do anything, it's ultimately up to the player based on what they think.

@LogicStrikesAgain I wouldn't debate the quality of the gameplay, but as you say everything is subjective, because I think it's good. And there's more to it than just gameplay = good, story = disappointing.

I yeah, they are giving more than a warning, but if it's reasonable to say "this is the best game ever you must play", I don't think it's unreasonable to say the opposite. That's the whole point of reviews, the player ultimately makes up their own mind based on what they've heard.

@LogicStrikesAgain Of course it is, it's also subjective to say it was a good game or a masterpiece.

It's hard to tell anyone if they should play it or not. For some people it's fully worth it, and one of the favourite games ever. For others it's the most disappointing game of all time which hurt the memory of the first. Ultimately it's an individual's decision to play it or not, but it's fair to warn them that the game has a mixed reception for many reasons.

@LogicStrikesAgain It most games, gameplay is priority but people aren't being told to play TLOU specifically for it's third person shooter/survival horror gameplay. It's good definitely, but the story is the selling point of the series, so if it doesn't deliver that's a problem.

Decided to try it before bed, not a good idea.

My copy has arrived. Just got to finish Hirogami first, then I will be starting.

Probably the best bit of the show for me.

@Dalamar Same here. Saros looks cool, but potentially being a roguelike makes me hesistant.

I have zero interest in Marvel, I'd much rather have a new Ratchet and Clank.

I get people have different tastes, but I've never watched a SoP where so little interested me. I think Crimson Desert and Saros (even then I'm conflicted because roguelike), that was basically it for me.

@PuppetMaster Yep, can't say I'm holding my breath for it.

@PuppetMaster I have zero interest in racing sims, so I'd be interested if they did anything but GT. Honestly, it would be cool to see them try a Motorstorm game.

I'm devastated.

I would really like it to hear anything from Media Molecule. I need to know they are still alive.

@Colour A man can only dream of a new Ape Escape.

@Fartingale Same, it's a nice collector's edition figure.

Not big on Kojima, but this looks very interesting.

That trailer music is terrible.

@Nepp67 Fairs, mine is physically fine, it's just USB that's the issue. Also forgot that it kept cutting out for no reason (despite being fully charged) so my mate had to get an extender for it.

@Nepp67 I think quality is good, but it's a pain having them take up a USB slot, and not be able to use them for a session because they apparently need to be updated.

@ATaco Agreed, as long it's still fun to play I'm happy. If a game constantly needs new content to keep it engaging, it suggests that the gameplay isn't enough of a draw.

The timing of this could not be better, I am all for revitalising the Nintendo-Sega rivalry. Nintendo could use a kick up the ass.

@SilentC I absolutely loved it, enjoy! Potboy is a really lovable companion imo.

Nice to see Fatal Frame, hopefully this can lead to getting a brand new game for PS.

@Retron I'm with you.

"Personally, as much as we have a soft spot for these old franchises, we don’t buy this idea that Sony needs to keep every series it owns alive until the end of time. Part of the beauty of PlayStation is how it’s been able to reinvent itself with each subsequent generation."

Kind of funny you say this, because this has been a very safe generation in terms of new IP from Sony's first party (owned by Sony) studios. Not to say there has been nothing new, but this really feels like we're still in the PS4 generation.

And I get not every series can realistically go on forever, but it can't be too hard to at least revisit old series once in a while.

@ErrantRob Unfortunately I didn't play the demo, so I can't really compare. All I can say is that feels quite Doom like.

Got Metal Eden, so far it's really fun. Basically feels like a fusion of Ghostrunner and Doom, but it's very enjoyable even if it's apparently very short.

Fixed now, but it wouldn't let me play a single player game I had just download because it said it couldn't verify the license. What a god awful system, Sony seriously needs to sort it because that should absolutely not be happening.

Hollow Knight has been on my to play list for years, but have just never gotten round to it.

I'd give a kidney to hear "We Lost" live.

Can games please stop releasing in October, there is already way too much coming out that I want to play.

I never played the original because of the mixed reviews, but if this turns out well I'm definitely interested.

@JohntheRaptor I'm with you. The game has so much going for it and I really wanted to like it, but unfortunately it wasn't very fun for me.

@RoomWithaMoose It's never been ultra serious even with the very dark tone of World at War, but these new games are a whole nother level.

@RoomWithaMoose COD is silly largely because of these ridiculous MP skins. It's never been a simulation game, but the PS3 COD games are vastly different.

@Lowdefal That's understandable. Which is another reason it's a shame that Sony/Playstation isn't a Japanese business anymore.

Either way, since Americans voted for Trump and his tariffs, it is definitely the morally right thing that they suffer the increased prices

Should have been done well before raising the price in countries that aren't America.

@Nepp67There's a lot more to being a soulslike than simply being hard. It's largely about game structure, and level design, as well as the lock on combat system. I can't really think of how Ghostrunner is remotely comparable other than being hard. That being said, it needs to be seen exactly how this new game is supposedly a soulslike.

Alternate history Napoleon invasion of Russia, made by the Ghostrunner Devs definitely has my attention. Bit skeptical that it's a soulslike though.

Decent clip, but really not a gameplay trailer.

We live in a society where Ape Escape, Spyro, Tearaway and Banjo are dead, but Bubsy gets new games.