I'm liking the game (PC version) so far but UbiSoft definitely needs to address the bugs and glitches first, and those mtx'es should never have been introduced in the first place.
@suikoden Well it doesn't make sense from the money perspective either: there are many more PC gamers out there than 9th gen console owners and Stadia subscribers combined. Unless Google paid a huge stash to Sega, which I don't think is likely the case since it's a relatively small title and given Google's own business thinkings, I don't think the tradeoff is going to be good at all.
I'm still staying away from all forms of paid online subscriptions, so it's a no thanks for me. I prefer buying the game (which I have on my PC) and being able to play it permanently regardless of me still being a subscriber or no.
@333pure333 Chongqing definitely deserves more love. I've been to that city too, though potato fries and bacon takeout on the sides of an alley? Really?
@Tas10 Well there's no need to rub it in like that either. I have a top tier rig with a 3090 inside it and I appreciate the fact that the console makers are at least making a decent effort this time, so at least the baseline will be alot higher this time even when considering the contemporaneous technologies elsewhere, and 60fps will once again hopefully be the norm rather than some golden standard.
@GREGORIAN I'm talking about technical stuff, not the ability and resources or lack thereof on the part of studios to make full use of the new console's hardware capabilities, so no there's nothing being invalidated.
@JAMes-BroWWWn I think you really don't understand how the PC gaming ecosystem is like. Our gaming tastes are extremely diverse and alot of us play more than just heavily marketed AAA games from the most popular genres, and the HZD sales figures are pretty good in this highly competitive and diverse ecosystem where saturation marketing does not give you an advantage. Instead of being bitter and salty about gamers in another ecosystem enjoying the same game, you should open up and celebrate this franchise making inroads into a highly competitive and demanding ecosystem's market. Conversely, many formerly skeptical PC gamers who dismissed this game as just another 'generic third person action adventure game' have now been completely won over by this game and have now openly celebrated it. Any genuine fan of this game should celebrate this outcome, instead of feeling being mistreated just because you aren't the only one being able to play this game anymore. Also for the sales charts, mind you that was the time when the PC port's technical issues were being reported on and that there was a price hike, and it affected its ensuing sales somewhat. It still picked up again afterwards.
Besides, I have played this game both on the PS4 Pro (I have bought a base PS4 beforehand too) and my PC, and Sony has gotten money from me twice, so it's only fair that they look after consumers like us as we've paid more. Many of us have PS4 consoles on the side and have played this game on the console beforehand, so I don't know what exactly is your problem.
@JapaneseSonic Yeap I mean it's the transition stage of all so it's fair to focus first on higher visuals first then work on something big and groundbreaking in the next sequel. I really want this franchise to reach GOAT status hence my desire to see gameplay features like those I proposed implemented. I'm sure Guerrilla will have other and even better ideas too.
@TheArt Actually the AI goes beyond the examples you've mentioned. Furthermore the CPU on the PS5 can be used to say power large scale battles between tribes and machines etc, something that would completely melt the PS4, hence adding a tactical/strategic dimension to the game. You can even go one step further by actually having procedurally generated machines, hence making HEPHAESTUS a living in-game AI, and this won't be possible on the PS4 either. I want the game to take the one extra step of being a generation/era-defining game by doing groundbreaking innovations as opposed to being a 'mere' GOTY contender. This isn't even about selling new consoles at this stage, but this is about raising the baseline. Essentially my point is that if you can only downport a game to the previous generation by gimping visuals alone, then you aren't making a game that's taking full advantage of the new hardware. Also, old consoles will still have their place for some time to come and they still have huge libraries for newcomers to enjoy.
@TheArt Taking full advantage of the PS5 here would not just mean the visuals department but also making use of the much more powerful CPU and the much touted custom SSD, and that would require much more fundamental innovations in the sequel in areas like hard programming e.g. AI, as well as gameplay features that require entire game worlds being loaded on the fly. If the game is crossgen then the latter won't be possible - imagine Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart's rift portals being replaced by loading screens, that would ruin the whole experience.
I can honestly make use of a dry gaming year to complete my backlog as well as to replay some of the 8th gen classics at 4K 144Hz maxed out on my 3090, on top of finally securing a PS5 console.
I actually enjoy this AC alot. Compared to Odyssey (which is also very good imho), Valhalla's quest structure appeals to me much more given that it's much more focused. The levelling is also much less grindy which is another plus. I hope the patches sort out the remaining issues now.
@Ralizah 2017 was honestly an overrated year for gaming imho, but Horizon Zero Dawn and Gravity Rush 2 weren't, so I'd definitely agree with you there. That year started off well but ended disastrously for me, and it was thanks to these two games that I was able to keep some sanity still. Imho the two games demonstrated alot of creativity in game world design and Gravity Rush 2 especially was unique gameplay wise. Like HZD however, I'd like to see a PC or at the very least, a PS5 port for Gravity Rush 2 as the game definitely needs some powerful hardware to smooth out the rough edges.
"Through the camera's viewfinder, you can spot tech you could tamper with, such as opening locked windows. You'll also be able to use it to gather more intel for your mission, which sounds pretty neat."
So basically Deus Ex and Cyberpunk? Don't get me wrong however as I'm not the type who insufferably goes around constantly look for similarities in gameplay between games, and I'm still very much looking forward to the game.
@Zaros Yes I had both a PS4 and a PS4 Pro - the former was given away to a friend and the latter's been inactive ever since I got myself a top end PC in spring 2019 before being eventually sold last autumn.
@Zaros I don't have any PlayStation or any consoles for that matter for the time being, sorry. However, I'll be fairly responsive here so we can still talk here
@Zaros fret not as when I say ‘abandon’ I didn’t mean deactivation or anything of the sort. I’ll log in still to download the digital games for my new account. Rather that I’ll be inactive on them for all other purposes.
Happy 2021! Although 2020 was a bad year for obvious reasons, I also saw the better part of the better majority of the world’s population making the right decisions through both votes and actions on the streets. Gaming wise, both developers and publishers have worked hard against all odds to deliver great games, and I feel that we should all be thankful while still remaining vigilant against attempts to fleece our thinned wallets by taking advantage of such goodwill. That said, we can all look forward to a fulfilling 2021 both in and outside gaming.
@Zaros Awesome. I had a PS3 with me when I was studying in England in the early-mid 2010s, but that’s probably in the storage of some household now. I’ll be rolling a brand new PSN ID when I get the PS5 and I’ll be sure to add you there and then. Right now I’m all but abandoning my previous IDs out of both personal and privacy reasons.
@Zaros Great to hear and you should perhaps read some guides about PC building. As for Persona I'm only starting with 5R lol, I've only started core gaming in its earnest in the 8th generation so many franchises are new to me. As I only have limited times these days I usually just jump in on the latest instalments to make the fullest use of my hardware and recap the earlier lore through researching on Fandom Wiki sites.
And no need to apologize lol, this isn't social media, not that there's is one even if it is.
@Zaros I play mainly the first party games and Persona. I play al the rest on my PC. I still have a bunch of unopened PS4 games which I’ll play on the PS5.
@wiiware It'll be really good if Gravity Rush 2 gets a PC port as well as a PS5 patch. It'll go a long way to tackle the technical issues experienced in the PS4's version.
Awesome! I don't use Linux anymore but support for more systems is always good on my mark. Indeed one of the big reasons for me wanting a PS5 this time is the controller and using it with my PC.
@SidNightwalker no but rather this illustrates the potential inconveniences of such a future if you don't have the proper infrastructure to back it up.
@fR_eeBritney Yes I'm still unable to escort the cow herder back to his hometown. That said, Cyberpunk 2077's buggy launch really makes contemporaneous UbiSoft releases look stellar in comparison, and a more polished entry like AC Valhalla looks almost godly, at least when comes to technical optimizations and QA, when compared to CDPR's overhyped game. Then again I'm playing both of these games on my enthusiast-tier rig, but I can only imagine the disparity to be many times more evident on consoles.
The worst thing about this is because this came from a publisher and developer with great reputation, the standard AAA ones whom we've pushed so hard to start treating consumers with modica of respect again, will take a cue and start going back to their own older greedier ways. This launch made UbiSoft's AAA game launches look positively good, and I fear that the honeymoon period started from Jedi Fallen Order to Valhalla will soon come to an end after this.
I'm really looking forward to see how strategy games for the 9th gen can make use the DualSense controller's features. It can lead to something fairly groundbreaking.
@Col_McCafferty I think the core gaming community will stick for a long time to come, hence ensuring the continued existence and innovations of console and PC hardware products.
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Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About PS4 Exclusives Being Ported to PC?
Absolutely great!
Re: Days Gone Is Coming to PC
This game was really held back by PS4’s hardware so I’m looking forward to seeing how it’ll be like now that it can be run on some serious hardware.
I hope Gravity Rush 2 can get a PC port too.
Re: Feature: Could PlayStation Do More to Promote Green Packaging?
If not for the few pesky PS4 physical games I’ve still got I’d be totally planning on buying the all digital PS5.
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Backlash as Fans Accuse Ubisoft of Focusing on Microtransactions Over Bug Fixes
I'm liking the game (PC version) so far but UbiSoft definitely needs to address the bugs and glitches first, and those mtx'es should never have been introduced in the first place.
Re: PS Now Competitor Google Stadia Ceases Internal Game Development
@suikoden Well it doesn't make sense from the money perspective either: there are many more PC gamers out there than 9th gen console owners and Stadia subscribers combined. Unless Google paid a huge stash to Sega, which I don't think is likely the case since it's a relatively small title and given Google's own business thinkings, I don't think the tradeoff is going to be good at all.
Re: PS Now Competitor Google Stadia Ceases Internal Game Development
Yet Judgment is skipping PC for the Stadia, you do have to question the (lack of) logic of Sega sometimes.
Re: Bedlam in Japan as New PS5 Stock Arrives at Tokyo Retailer
I thought that the PS5 is dead in Japan according to the narratives from some particular people...
Re: Hitman 3 DLC Coming, But IO Interactive Hasn't Defined What It Is Yet
Given the patterns of the previous two games, I suspect that there'll be a resort-themed map.
Re: Control Fans Bemused by Free PS Plus Version for PS5, PS4
I'm still staying away from all forms of paid online subscriptions, so it's a no thanks for me. I prefer buying the game (which I have on my PC) and being able to play it permanently regardless of me still being a subscriber or no.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Hitman Level from the World of Assassination Trilogy?
@333pure333 Chongqing definitely deserves more love. I've been to that city too, though potato fries and bacon takeout on the sides of an alley? Really?
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Hitman Level from the World of Assassination Trilogy?
@sonicmeerkat These are Bangkok and Miami respectively for you my friend.
Re: PS Plus Looks Like a Steal When Compared to New Xbox Live Gold Prices
I'm just going to enjoy my free MP on my PC...
... but seriously speaking, I hope that PlayStation won't end up following them later down the road.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@Tas10 Well there's no need to rub it in like that either. I have a top tier rig with a 3090 inside it and I appreciate the fact that the console makers are at least making a decent effort this time, so at least the baseline will be alot higher this time even when considering the contemporaneous technologies elsewhere, and 60fps will once again hopefully be the norm rather than some golden standard.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@GREGORIAN I'm talking about technical stuff, not the ability and resources or lack thereof on the part of studios to make full use of the new console's hardware capabilities, so no there's nothing being invalidated.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@JAMes-BroWWWn I think you really don't understand how the PC gaming ecosystem is like. Our gaming tastes are extremely diverse and alot of us play more than just heavily marketed AAA games from the most popular genres, and the HZD sales figures are pretty good in this highly competitive and diverse ecosystem where saturation marketing does not give you an advantage. Instead of being bitter and salty about gamers in another ecosystem enjoying the same game, you should open up and celebrate this franchise making inroads into a highly competitive and demanding ecosystem's market. Conversely, many formerly skeptical PC gamers who dismissed this game as just another 'generic third person action adventure game' have now been completely won over by this game and have now openly celebrated it. Any genuine fan of this game should celebrate this outcome, instead of feeling being mistreated just because you aren't the only one being able to play this game anymore. Also for the sales charts, mind you that was the time when the PC port's technical issues were being reported on and that there was a price hike, and it affected its ensuing sales somewhat. It still picked up again afterwards.
Besides, I have played this game both on the PS4 Pro (I have bought a base PS4 beforehand too) and my PC, and Sony has gotten money from me twice, so it's only fair that they look after consumers like us as we've paid more. Many of us have PS4 consoles on the side and have played this game on the console beforehand, so I don't know what exactly is your problem.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@JapaneseSonic Yeap I mean it's the transition stage of all so it's fair to focus first on higher visuals first then work on something big and groundbreaking in the next sequel. I really want this franchise to reach GOAT status hence my desire to see gameplay features like those I proposed implemented. I'm sure Guerrilla will have other and even better ideas too.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@TheArt Actually the AI goes beyond the examples you've mentioned. Furthermore the CPU on the PS5 can be used to say power large scale battles between tribes and machines etc, something that would completely melt the PS4, hence adding a tactical/strategic dimension to the game. You can even go one step further by actually having procedurally generated machines, hence making HEPHAESTUS a living in-game AI, and this won't be possible on the PS4 either. I want the game to take the one extra step of being a generation/era-defining game by doing groundbreaking innovations as opposed to being a 'mere' GOTY contender. This isn't even about selling new consoles at this stage, but this is about raising the baseline. Essentially my point is that if you can only downport a game to the previous generation by gimping visuals alone, then you aren't making a game that's taking full advantage of the new hardware. Also, old consoles will still have their place for some time to come and they still have huge libraries for newcomers to enjoy.
Re: Horizon Forbidden West Production Efforts Boosted as PC Patches Wind Down
@TheArt Taking full advantage of the PS5 here would not just mean the visuals department but also making use of the much more powerful CPU and the much touted custom SSD, and that would require much more fundamental innovations in the sequel in areas like hard programming e.g. AI, as well as gameplay features that require entire game worlds being loaded on the fly. If the game is crossgen then the latter won't be possible - imagine Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart's rift portals being replaced by loading screens, that would ruin the whole experience.
Re: Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown Is Now the Best-Selling Game in the Series
@BrettAwesome And I do play it on PC
Re: Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown Is Now the Best-Selling Game in the Series
I'll need to revisit the game when I get that 4K high refresh monitor.
Re: Soapbox: 2021 Is the Year to Tackle Your Backlog, Because So Many Games Are Going to Be Delayed
I can honestly make use of a dry gaming year to complete my backlog as well as to replay some of the 8th gen classics at 4K 144Hz maxed out on my 3090, on top of finally securing a PS5 console.
Re: King of Fighters XV Looks Like a Real Step Forward in First Trailer, Screenshots
@Zaros will do!
Re: King of Fighters XV Looks Like a Real Step Forward in First Trailer, Screenshots
@Zaros Since this game's going to be on PC as well, I'll buy it there, though I may grab the console copy as well down the line when it's discounted.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Stupefied Until 2022 on PS5, PS4
I'll be using most of this year to finish up my backlog anyway so no rush.
Re: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Patch News Coming Soon, Ubisoft Updates Long List of Known Issues
I actually enjoy this AC alot. Compared to Odyssey (which is also very good imho), Valhalla's quest structure appeals to me much more given that it's much more focused. The levelling is also much less grindy which is another plus. I hope the patches sort out the remaining issues now.
Re: Poll: What Was the Best PS4 First-Party Exclusive of the Generation?
@Ralizah 2017 was honestly an overrated year for gaming imho, but Horizon Zero Dawn and Gravity Rush 2 weren't, so I'd definitely agree with you there. That year started off well but ended disastrously for me, and it was thanks to these two games that I was able to keep some sanity still. Imho the two games demonstrated alot of creativity in game world design and Gravity Rush 2 especially was unique gameplay wise. Like HZD however, I'd like to see a PC or at the very least, a PS5 port for Gravity Rush 2 as the game definitely needs some powerful hardware to smooth out the rough edges.
Re: Agent 47 Can Shoot with a Camera As Well As a Gun in Hitman 3
"Through the camera's viewfinder, you can spot tech you could tamper with, such as opening locked windows. You'll also be able to use it to gather more intel for your mission, which sounds pretty neat."
So basically Deus Ex and Cyberpunk? Don't get me wrong however as I'm not the type who insufferably goes around constantly look for similarities in gameplay between games, and I'm still very much looking forward to the game.
Re: King of Fighters XV Looks Like a Real Step Forward in First Screenshots
Athena's costume is what I'll be interested in the most.
Re: King of Fighters XV's Big Reveal Has Been Delayed
@nessisonett I recommend using Athena for starters.
Re: Poll: What's Your Most Anticipated PS5, PS4 Game of 2021?
Just the 3 exclusives for me. I'll play the others on the PC.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
@Zaros Yes I had both a PS4 and a PS4 Pro - the former was given away to a friend and the latter's been inactive ever since I got myself a top end PC in spring 2019 before being eventually sold last autumn.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
@Zaros I don't have any PlayStation or any consoles for that matter for the time being, sorry. However, I'll be fairly responsive here so we can still talk here
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
@Zaros Yes. Besides I want a whole new identity in 2021
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
@Zaros fret not as when I say ‘abandon’ I didn’t mean deactivation or anything of the sort. I’ll log in still to download the digital games for my new account. Rather that I’ll be inactive on them for all other purposes.
Re: Happy New Year from the Push Square Team
Happy 2021! Although 2020 was a bad year for obvious reasons, I also saw the better part of the better majority of the world’s population making the right decisions through both votes and actions on the streets. Gaming wise, both developers and publishers have worked hard against all odds to deliver great games, and I feel that we should all be thankful while still remaining vigilant against attempts to fleece our thinned wallets by taking advantage of such goodwill. That said, we can all look forward to a fulfilling 2021 both in and outside gaming.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
@Zaros Awesome. I had a PS3 with me when I was studying in England in the early-mid 2010s, but that’s probably in the storage of some household now. I’ll be rolling a brand new PSN ID when I get the PS5 and I’ll be sure to add you there and then. Right now I’m all but abandoning my previous IDs out of both personal and privacy reasons.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
@Zaros Great to hear and you should perhaps read some guides about PC building. As for Persona I'm only starting with 5R lol, I've only started core gaming in its earnest in the 8th generation so many franchises are new to me. As I only have limited times these days I usually just jump in on the latest instalments to make the fullest use of my hardware and recap the earlier lore through researching on Fandom Wiki sites.
And no need to apologize lol, this isn't social media, not that there's is one even if it is.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
@Zaros I play mainly the first party games and Persona. I play al the rest on my PC. I still have a bunch of unopened PS4 games which I’ll play on the PS5.
Re: Rumour: PS5 Ships 3.4 Million Units in First Four Weeks
I'm jumping in as soon as I can buy one at non-scalped prices. Right now though I'm consoleless for the first time in six years.
Re: Sony Releases Official PS5 Controller Driver for Linux
@wiiware It'll be really good if Gravity Rush 2 gets a PC port as well as a PS5 patch. It'll go a long way to tackle the technical issues experienced in the PS4's version.
Re: Sony Releases Official PS5 Controller Driver for Linux
Awesome! I don't use Linux anymore but support for more systems is always good on my mark. Indeed one of the big reasons for me wanting a PS5 this time is the controller and using it with my PC.
Re: Reaction: Sony's New PS Store Is Actively Preventing Fans from Spending Money
@SidNightwalker no but rather this illustrates the potential inconveniences of such a future if you don't have the proper infrastructure to back it up.
Re: Reaction: Sony's New PS Store Is Actively Preventing Fans from Spending Money
Welcome to the all-digital future
Re: Random: This Guy Has Five PS5s
Now I’ll challenge him to do the following:
3090 RTX 3090 GPUs*
5950 Ryzen 9 5950x CPUs
6900 Radeon 6900XT GPUs*
10900 i9-10900k CPUs
Do it and I’ll subscribe to his channel.
*GPUs can be from any manufacturer
Re: UK Sales Charts: Assassin's Creed Valhalla Grabs Christmas Number One, Cyberpunk 2077 Slips to Third
@fR_eeBritney Yes I'm still unable to escort the cow herder back to his hometown. That said, Cyberpunk 2077's buggy launch really makes contemporaneous UbiSoft releases look stellar in comparison, and a more polished entry like AC Valhalla looks almost godly, at least when comes to technical optimizations and QA, when compared to CDPR's overhyped game. Then again I'm playing both of these games on my enthusiast-tier rig, but I can only imagine the disparity to be many times more evident on consoles.
Re: CDPR Willing to Pay for Physical Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds Out of Its Own Pocket
The worst thing about this is because this came from a publisher and developer with great reputation, the standard AAA ones whom we've pushed so hard to start treating consumers with modica of respect again, will take a cue and start going back to their own older greedier ways. This launch made UbiSoft's AAA game launches look positively good, and I fear that the honeymoon period started from Jedi Fallen Order to Valhalla will soon come to an end after this.
Re: Control Ultimate Edition Levitates to PS Store on 2nd February, Features Graphical Options
@Agramonte Ray tracing does full justice to the Finnish cleaner's work.
Re: Taxi Chaos Looks Like the Crazy Taxi Revival SEGA Won't Make
I have fond memories of playing this in the arcades as a little girl.
Re: Best PS4 Strategy Games
I'm really looking forward to see how strategy games for the 9th gen can make use the DualSense controller's features. It can lead to something fairly groundbreaking.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Sells 104,687 Copies At Launch in Japan
@Col_McCafferty I think the core gaming community will stick for a long time to come, hence ensuring the continued existence and innovations of console and PC hardware products.