Oh boy, you're probably not going to like this one. In a new interview with GQ, it's been confirmed that Days Gone is making the jump to PC.
Sony has shown interest in bringing some of its exclusive titles to the PC market, and it did so last year with Horizon Zero Dawn. Apparently, Deacon St. John's post-apocalyptic adventure is next on the docket.
What's perhaps more interesting is how it's confirmed. The language used suggests Days Gone will be far from the last PlayStation-exclusive game to be ported to PC: "What about PlayStation games on PC? A whole slate of them is on the way starting with Days Gone this spring," reads GQ's piece. A "whole slate" of PlayStation games, you say?
The interview elaborates on Sony's stance with regards to this. Jim Ryan explains that the decision to release PlayStation titles on PC is "fairly straightforward", because it's easier than ever to bring the games to a new audience, and the quality of the company's IP has grown over the last few years.
Ryan goes on to talk about the reaction to Horizon's PC release. "Firstly, in terms of the straightforward success of the activity of publishing the game on PC, people liked it and they bought it," he says. He also states that there was "no massive adverse reaction to it" from the community, which is probably true in broader strokes.
Anyway, that's that. PlayStation games will continue to come to PC. What do you think? Discuss (nicely) in the comments section below.
One of those games better be Bloodborne.
Also, I'm willing to bet actual money one of those games will be Demon's Souls Remake. I'm still convinced that the mistake listing during the September reveal event wasn't just a "human error".
Sony will be porting near all of their big ps4 titles to pc I guess, I don't know if this strategy will make people buy more playstation system or less.
''Mo money, mo money, mo money.''
Smart and welcoming move by Sony, following Xbox footsteps clearly of broadening the audience and their brand.
Actually even Nintendo ported a few games of the Switch to PC already.
edit: Nintendo didn't as others in chat have pointed out, but other Switch publishers did. My bad!
Good. I think the game’s rubbish but I’m glad Sony have made the jump to PC.
Horrible news indeed, it’s like they love to diminish their brand and decided to focus on gimmicks like VR
@Kalvort Nintendo didn't. The third party games they published did.
Daemon x Machina, Octopath Traveler, and allegedly Monster Hunter Rise.
I'm just here for the tasty tasty comments
The PC gods win once again!
@RBMango "One of those games better be Bloodborne"
It will be! Don't worry bro, we always win in the end
Glad more people will have the chance to play it. Also glad Sony will make more money off of it, maybe it helps them bankroll something else. This console exclusive fanboy crap is just that.
Ya know Sony, these pc ports would be interesting if they were for well established franchises that we would actually want to replay again
Not surprising, just like with Xbox back in 2016 it starts off slowly and eventually PC gets everything.
Makes sense to port games down the line. It's effectively "free" money, and also raises the profile of those franchises.
I'm glad I went with the Nintendo/PC route, it is starting to pay off.
Horrible move sony.wtf are they doing there.pc for what.if someone wants to play it buy a ps4.its crazy.what sony is doing.then all them games will come to pc also.horrible.
@Spyroescape I have faith.
It is a good move for Sony as it will only generate more money and allow more people to play their games. I bought my daughter a gaming PC for Xmas but I still ended up buying a PS4 and will "someday" find a PS5. Considering her PC cost $2k, this has zero chance of splitting the gaming audience as most PlayStation owners won't bother with a PC and for me honestly I thought about only playing on PC, but playing on my big tv with my sound system just can't be replicated on PC (and yes I know I can connect the PC to my tv but its hers).
Updated with a little more info from the interview.
This will only kill the brand in the long term people will start saying why buy PS when I can get their games elsewhere this can only be bad for PlayStation and console gaming as a whole not a good look
That's not good news for PS users.
Slow starter but ended up being a great game. Good to see more folks get to enjoy it.
Also looking foward to seeing modders replace the freakers with various other characters/items.
@LordSteev Yep its a good thing more money for development in the future. Sure people think these games are cheap to make they cost hundreds of millions so need to make a profit if we are to get sequals. Only people who think its bad are fanboys who want it for point scoring on both sides. Release all PS4 games on PC and let millions more enjoy them. Cant see PS5 games going there yet.
Personally I wouldn't mind if all Sony games were coming to PC and I'd still play them on PlayStation. I can see how that could be seen as something potentially hurting console sales but if we're talking 2-3 year old games, I don't think that will be a problem.
This game was really held back by PS4’s hardware so I’m looking forward to seeing how it’ll be like now that it can be run on some serious hardware.
I hope Gravity Rush 2 can get a PC port too.
@wiiware more , it gives people a taste , and then sony will say if you want to play the sequel , then you have to go out and buy a ps5. i think its a good way to market the ps5.
Days gone on pc could be really cool especially with mods and what not . This game needs to be played by as many people as possible. I just finished it on the ps5 and it is a terribly under-rated game .
Also sony seems to be approaching there games hitting pc in a better way (depending on how you want to view it ) then Microsoft.
I feel Microsofts approach really hurt there consoles identity becuase there games were being mostly released day and date on pc . Where sony is doing it much later, after the game has done what it needed to do for the console and they never mention the release of a pc version when talking about there games.
Honestly I'm just waiting for the console and pc market to be the video game market .
They are a business after all so the more sales they can get, the better. Its not like many console players are just going to buy/build a gaming PC now that Sony's exclusives are going to be on therr
@get2sammyb Agree just money in the bank as they say. And also those games deserve to be accessed to millions more. What people don't see is these companies don't care about the Console wars or the fanboys within. More money means more games its a simple formula.
I hope they commissioned external studios and didn't waste internal ones for it who could have worked on upcoming titles instead.
Let's see the long term effect of losing exclusives.
Almost as if Sony forgot what saved their asses in the PS3 era.
Even though as of now it's older games I'm pretty sure, it'll be new releases day and date at some point.
@jack22 Why is it not good news more money equals more games. You should of worded it not good for fanboys.
More like 'Exclusives Gone'😅
Seriously people who cry over this need a life. More exclusives doesn't equal a bigger 🍌🥒🍆.......🍑
@SweetSummerShunv On PS5 it runs like a dream already.
@playstation1995 I hear you brother, it's a bad move unless this is their plan, to be a software company only and just sell on PC and one day Xbox and Nintendo (if these are still going).
Never print Only on PlayStation on your boxes ever again. It's obviously a lie.
@Max2574 Hey Bud!
Yep, more cash for Sony, more cash for Bend, more brand recognition. Consoles are so advanced that I think both Microsoft and Sony actually lose money with each sale. Keeping a game exclusive for only a short ammount of time isn't going to magically make anyone stop buying consoles. Keeping them exclusive forever only hurts the developers and the end gamers. A whole lot of whining snots are going to argue otherwise, though....should be an interesting thread!
@Col_McCafferty You have issues dude. There old games that can make money for future games. Don't you see that.
Sony is selling every single PS5 console it can possibly make at the moment. This scheme of putting former PS4 exclusives on PC hasn't had any effect whatsoever on sales — I don't know why you lot worry so much.
@Weebleman Replace them with a horde of that Hawaiian long neck Karen😂
@LordSteev I got the popcorn ready mate.
Screw the champions league this will be pure entertainment on here. I am convinced people think these games cost a tenner to make lol.
Its over bro :'D PC is getting them exclusives and theres nothing you can do about it!
@Max2574 Might as well release them on Xbox and Nintendo (if it can cope), why just PC?!
It's not going to sell that great on PC anyway, HZD wasn't that big.
It's great if you're one of those PCMR freaks but exclusives are important, they aim high to draw people in instead of their going to the competition. Some on here might own every gaming console and a PC but I bet the majority of gamers don't.
Nothing wrong with allowing more people to play the game.
It also helps the devs since it's more money for them for their future releases.
Look at Microsoft with their Game Pass. Pretty much every console exclusive is going to release on PC and the Xbox X simultaneously.
Also port Gravity Rush 2 so we can mod 60 fps since you cowards won't patch it in for the PS5.
@LiamCroft Fully agree mate. I would be more dissapointed if they didn't tbh. It would show they don't know how to run a business. Happy for PC gamers who get to enjoy some truly great games isn't that what gaming is about wanting other people to enjoy great games and to share incredible experiences with you.
@twitchtvpat Yeah, as long as it's only ps4 port, but the value of ps5 will decreased if sony offers their ps5 games as well. Oh well, as long as I can play sony games at 60 fps on ps5, I prefer to play it there
More money? Basically within a few months Days Gone made enough money to warrant a sequel. HZD sold in huge numbers as well on PS. Same with GoT.
If all they care about are software sales then release on Xbox and Switch as well and really go for it.
@Col_McCafferty I think its the future both companies will release on other platforms including each other.
Think I'll crack a brew and watch this unfold. Can't believe so many babies don't want to share their toys.
This is legit sad news for me because I’m enjoying Days Gone in 4K 60fps on PS5 already... however there’s a few Sony exclusives that don’t have “great” console performance I would love to take for a spin on pc
I think its great - now just waiting on the Bethesda + Microsoft roadmap
Genuinely don't care, makes no difference to me if others can play these games. Release them on Xbox for all I care.
Genuinely believe that exclusives aren't of any benefit to the customer. If I wanted to play The Last of Us, Halo and Mario then I would have to out over £1k in console costs alone - how can that be a good thing?
It's the end of What's Your Favourite PlayStation Exclusive polls.
There won't be any!
Nintendo take care of their mascots, Sony obviously couldn't give a ***** about them.
Thanks Sony, for killing another reason to buy your products.
As someone who owns all consoles, exclusives or timed exclusives dont bother me one bit.
Christ the over reactions in here are ridiculous. They are putting single player games that have been out for a few years onto PC. How does other people playing these older titles diminish your experience?
I dont see the problem with this 🤷♂️ i said it about Horizon, and i'll say it about other games Sony takes over. Sales of these games are dead on Playstation platforms at this point - particularly with Days Gone in the PS Plus collection, so why not try and maximise revenue?
Sony is a business at the end of the day, and its hardly a day and date release. Days Gone came out what. 3 years ago? This doesn't diminish the brand at all. But it does increase profits that can be rolled into creating new high quality games or funding studio acquisitions if that is the business model Sony wish to follow.
Make it two way though. I want Persona 4 Golden on PS4/5
@Col_McCafferty sad but true.. We are just toxic fans now... I don't know how this HZD selling was good because a lot of people just used VPN and bought a game in "Argentina"...
love the patsy's who say the game is rubbish. LOL CLUELESS.
Don't care what games pc gets as long as xboners can't play it
I don't like the idea at all :-/ Let's hope it doesn't back-fire on SONY and people lose interest in buying a PlayStation console in the Future :-/ I'd rather SONY spend the time they will be 'WASTING' on PC ports on PlayStation Exclusives really. Oh well.
On the one hand, I'm fine with it, as (a) more people get to play some awesome games, and (b) it means more money to the Sony devs for even more great games.
On the other hand, it makes me a little concerned for the future of PlayStation systems, and I think they need to be careful about the delay between a PlayStation release and PC release.
As someone with a decent PC, I already consider the Xbox to be irrelevant (note: just in my own personal view) because any game released on it is available on PC at the same time, so I personally have no need or interest in buying Xbox hardware. Presumably there are many others who feel the same.
That's not really an issue for me, as while I did own an original Xbox and (eventually) a 360, I've never really been a Microsoft fan; in fact, I have quite a strong dislike of them as a company, going back to before Xbox was even a thing. But I have been a fan of PlayStation (and Sony) since the PS1, and I'm not keen on them removing reasons to buy their own hardware as I feel Microsoft has done.
At the end of the day though, I'll be playing their games anyway, and playing them pretty much exclusively consoles, so... I guess it changes nothing, really! Well, that was a waste of typing, wasn't it? 😄
@Col_McCafferty "It's great if you're one of those PCMR freaks"
You're definitely upset aren't you lmao.
I personally don't like this no. Playstation has always been known for the strength of its exclusive games and bringing them to PC just makes it lose that quality. If PC is getting all these Playstation exclusives, what's the strength of Playstation anymore?
I only played on ps3 and ps4, never really touched pc games. But now i play more and more pc games. If sony keeps doing this i really dont need a playstation console.
This is another reason i held off from buying a PS5. Keep digging that hole Sony. Between MS slowly muscling yall out of the console market, and yall porting what value yall do have to PC. Its just a matter of time before you'll be just another bona-fide publisher.
@Col_McCafferty If old PS4 games like HDZ, Days Gone, TLoU, GoT etc all came to Xbox, I’d buy them all for sure but it’ll never happen and I’m still getting a PS5 to play those games. So some of those games going to PC doesn’t affect someone like me who doesn’t have a PC and Sony will still have an extra PS5 sold because of that.
People need to remember that not everyone has a gaming PC or even want to game on a PC but rather sit on a couch in front of the tv, it’s a lot more comfortable and convenient and I’d say that a bigger audience than those who game on PC.
@GKO900 Got something personal against VR? Did it hurt you? Have you ever even tried it?
@Col_McCafferty Nintendo releases their mascot games ad nauseum for full price, don't know what's worse
@Rob_230 You make a good point about the Plus Collection. I just hope this doesn't bite them in the arse in the long term, i.e. if people avoid their system entirely because the game will be at some point on PC. And if game sales are low, they may be incentivised to release them sooner on PC. I dunno. Question now is if Mario will ever make it to PC as an official release.
Not too bothered with them going to PC tbh, as long as they don't put everything on it, think they need to keep a few exclusive games too. As long as they do it after a few years then don't see the problem. I will always be playing on consoles don't like gaming on pc and Xbox have nothing that justifies me getting one at the moment.
@Col_McCafferty its like theyre following x box too much.and thats not a good move.those pc guys could just buy a ps4 pro.and now they expecting every ps4 games to come to pc.you wont see Nintendo doing this.word up son
Don't particularly care. It's good Sony games see other platforms.
PC doesn't compete with playstation so what's the problem?
@Max2574 they cost tens of millions not hundreds. Only Rockstar games are that expensive to make and the make one every 5 years
Cue all the crying and moaning over something that affects no one. There are not many people who would pick a PlayStation console if they already own a powerful PC. Sorry but it's true. Enjoy the games on the console that you own and stop fretting about PC owners who can now enjoy them too. This is a non-issue that people blow upl
@Octane i get what you are saying. Conversely, i imagine Sony hope some of those who purchase Horizon on PC will be desperate to jump aboard the sequel on PS5 on day 1 rather than wait (although secretly, they probably don't care where you play so long as its money in their pocket). I largely see pc and console gamers as being completely seperate markets and i dont think Sony will be overly concerned that it will affect their market share.
Its still mad that dreams hasnt dropped on PC with cross platform play. PC users will be able to create some great stuff
@OthmaneAD Nope games are costing more to make than ever. Be intresting to see the budget for TLOU2 and HZD. Both massive games with huge budgets.
@Rob_230 Sure Dreams will go to PC deserves many more players and creators.
I'm old PlayStation fan But Decisions like that pushing me to leave the PlayStation world and jumb into PC Gaming... Customizable, better graphics and frame rate, free online gaming, multiple games stores with cheap price, Fully backwards compatible, AND NOW WITH JIM RYAN ERA NO FEAR ABOUT EXCLUSIVES
@SZRT_CIC_Ice I just like to post my hate and disappointment on Sony for not dropping VR and they instead of expanding their exclusives they are actually loosing them
I don't get why people are crying over this, its not like its going to Xbox
"Oh boy, you're probably not going to like this one"
And why is that? Since selling more copies of those exclusive games clearly benefits Sony and it's studios, which in turn can use the money to keep up the awesome work of making the good games every Playstation owner enjoys, why the capital F would anyone be upset ?
Please stop instigating bad sentiments between console and PC gamers.
This kind of crap is part of the reason why crossplay between platforms takes such a long time to get accepted and implemented.
In case you missed it, gamers do want to get together, play and enjoy the good games available out there, no matter the platform they own.
And the talented studios behind them deserve support from all of them.
Anyway, I do hope they do Bloodborne too, and not just a port, but as a full remaster, for PS5 and PC.
@Max2574 Actually HZD was relatively cheap, ~45m Euros.
TLOU2 is definitely more though, maybe over 100m
For heaven's sake they're sharing Deacon St. John with PC not Nathan Drake...chill
@Rob_230 Trust me, they do care where you play them. On PlayStation a (digital) sale is 100% profit for Sony, whereas on PC they have to pay royalties to whatever platform they release their games on. Likewise, any third party sale on a PlayStation platform means royalties for Sony. They definitely want you playing their games and other games on their platform.
I think it’s smarter than the Xbox approach of their exclusives being day one on Xbox and PC, but then again they’re not bothered as they go straight to gamepass and draw more people that way.
Still no avoiding the fact that Sony’s precious exclusives are becoming less and less exclusive.
This is the perfect reason for people not to be fanboys over the consoles. Brand loyalty doesn’t matter, because at the end of the day, if a game can make even more money on another platform, don’t be surprised to see these games making their way to pc. I expect to see the Nathan Drake collection & Last of us on pc eventually. If it makes money for Sony then they’ll do it. I don’t blame them to be honest with you.
Probably why they rebranded to PlayStation Studios to bring many to pc.
I think that you play where your hardware is fit..i have a great tv and still stuck with a ps4..the cheapest way for me to upgrade is with a ps5 with an already enormous ps+ library..but if I could get a gaming pc for 500euros I could switch to this..so in the end of the day PlayStation is my cheapest option to something next gen.
@Kalvort not true no first party nintendo games have gone to pc
I think the main issue that the virtue signalling advocates are missing, even if its last gen games, is that devs are busy developing/ porting for PC whereas they could be busy doing more for PlayStation customers.
It's a consumer point of view. Not just some fanaticism about a brand.
So in that perspective, it's a shame.
Great news. PS5 is a poor effort at 'revolution not evolution' and I'll happily wait out any exclusivity periods and play the patched up, cheaper and arguably superior versions when they land on PC.
@Keyblade-Dan I think this is fine from Sony's point of view. After all, they primarily make money from the game sales, not consoles.
They may lose some PS+ subscribers but it is hard to imagine those customers jumping ship to PC completely.
I truly don't get this "devaluing" the brand take from users, fanboys, all of you. Some of ya'll swear you're holding on to millions of shares of Sony stock or something. How about let the executives worry about the brand and you play where you want to play. This is coming from a straight up Sony guy. My TV's are Sony, I've had every Playstation console released in the US. My headphones, speakers, and even batteries are Sony lol. I 95% game on PS consoles, and I don't have ANY problem whatsoever with them supporting the PC community. Honestly, what is wrong with some of you?
And shame on the writer here for even implying something is valid about "not liking this". It's more people getting to experience great games, what reason is there not to like it besides tribalism nonsense? This behavior should not be condoned at all.
"Firstly, in terms of the straightforward success of the activity of publishing the game on PC, people liked it and they bought it."
Yeah, no *****, Sherlock. Of course people bought it. Do not freaking act like that surprises you. That was always going to happen when you made a game available more than one platform. So it's ALMOST as if the reason why Sony hasn't been putting exclusives on PC this whole time is because they knew up until now that exclusives gave the PlayStation brand, you know, some actual value? Value that will now be pissed away in favor of profit.
Also, no massive adverse reactions from the community? Yeah, I highly doubt that. Just don't act like you're also surprised when the PS5 doesn't sell nearly as well as the PS4 since you insist on communicating the message that no one actually needs one.
In any case, it seems pretty damn clear that Ryan is steering PlayStation towards a future where it has no exclusives anymore. Likely only a matter of time before they start doing day and date releases as well, just like MS. Putting him in charge of the brand is probably one of the worst decisions Sony's ever made.
@Spyroescape How old are you?
Releasing old PS4 games on PC kinda makes sense but, if these studios are busy working on PC ports does it mean they are not working on PS5 games? That's probably more worrying.
Jim Ryan was pretty clear it's focused on PS4 games in the original GQ article.
"Particularly from the latter half of the PS4 cycle our studios made some wonderful, great games. There’s an opportunity to expose those great games to a wider audience"
It would be madness to release day and date PS5 games at the same time as PC. It would just hurt PS5 sales and ultimately Sony's bottom line.
@wiiware I don't think it'll make much difference either way. How many PC mains bought a PS4 for Bloodborne? How many people will switch to PC because Sony are gonna give it some reheated ports a few years after the console versions? Not as much as I think the gaming enthusiast bubbles make it out to be honestly.
It does seem a bit odd, it's well known that PlayStation's exclusives are the major selling point nowadays. Even the supposedly smaller, older games, chips away at that a bit.
It's not as if the PlayStation brand seems to be in any short term trouble either, demand is so high they can't get the consoles out fast enough.
Future proofing maybe? I don't really see how it does that though.
@Col_McCafferty I'd hardly call Days Gone a Sony mascot. One very average game is not a brand mascot
Its all about Sony get more money for their IP's.
Dont see why PS fan boys have issues with PS games coming to PC, maybe they cant handle their beloved games being played on superior hardware.
I know HZD on my PC is superior experience than it was on my PS4 .
This comment section makes me laugh. Everyone seems to forget that major Playstation releases have either gotten ports to pc or became multiplatform franchises down the line eventually anyway. Just in the PS1 era we got Final Fantasy 7, Metal Gear Solid, Soul Reaver and the first Resident Evil getting PC ports and yet the PS1 as a platform still sold 102 million units regardless. Metal Gear Solid, Devil May Cry, and other former Sony first party titles also became multiplatform entirely eventually. So relax. This is really nothing new and im still going to buy first party Sony games on playstation regardless despite owning a fairly powerful PC.
@PegasusActual93 I think it's all the FUD people are saying with day and date PS5 / PC releases are going to happen which I think is wrong personally.
Sony is not Microsoft. Sony is very, very reliant on PlayStation to make cash. If they release order games that makes perfect business sense but, if they shift new games onto PC simultaneously to PS5 it would actually push people off buying Sony hardware.
I just can't see even Ryan doing that at least currently this generation.
Okay, let's see why sony is doing this:
Sony confirmed they don't profit of off PS5 sales. So if you buy a PS5 today, it means nothing financially for Sony.
That being said, if someone, let's say, buy a PS5 and after purchase a digital version of Horizon Zero Down on PlayStation sony would profit the same from that person and from someone who bought the game on Steam.
The only reason for the hardware to exist is so they can sell software. But if hardware doesnt profit and software do, the best way to maximize profit is to bring their software to more platforms. Sony is doing a great move, just as MS did back in 2016. Nothing to worry about. sony is doing great.
It won't be long before the major PS franchises are represented on PC.
Microsoft's games all go to PC.
All the normal third-party stuff goes to PC now.
Persona is probably coming to PC, considering how well 4 Golden and 5 Strikers have done.
Third-party Switch "exclusives" like MH Rise and Triangle Strategy are doubtlessly coming to PC.
PC is the ultimate next-gen platform.
If the logic is porting games to PC will mean people don't buy PS then it would suggest no one buys an Xbox as ALL their games are available on PC. Pretty sure it isn't affecting their sales at the moment.
it's a bit of a waste of first party resources.. are bend working on PS5 development, or porting a two-year old PS4 game to PC? sony needs more PS5 games from its studios sooner, not simply more $$$ in the short term. while PS now exists, there's no reason for this. it was always possible to play sony games later on other platforms - maybe it should promote and improve PS now more so that PS4 games can run with higher resolutions and unlocked framerates when streamed.
@JJ2 Yes, valuable time, people and resources could be spent on making a sequel to Days Gone or even s new IP but instead their focus is on a PC port. For what? A few more coin? It's not exactly as if PC gamers have been crying out for the game. Bloodborne being ported would sell far far more if the defining factor was purely money alone.
Same with HZD, maybe the sequel would've already been released if they hadn't been preoccupied with porting the original to PC.
Loyal PS gamers ARE losing out with these ports, naive to think it doesn't affect us.
And what if anything are we getting in return? Sod all and yet some on here are happy about it. I don't get it.
@KingPev That's your opinion, I'm a fan of the first game as are many others on here and the sequel has enormous potential.
I agree its not good for PS gamers.
Days Gone 2 is definitely in the work but I just have no interest in PlayStation working for PC with more ports.🤷♂️
I'm sorry if I sound like a "fanboy" but I DON'T SUPPORT this
There is a reason why Sony has a strong following, and this just tells me that I should just get a PC because obviously -_-
Most rational people will agree with me.
@Divergent95 Yeah agreed with you there, just making me regret getting a PS system.
Ok no reason to get a PS5 now. Cause outside of a few games all will hit PC just like Xbox games.
@Snick27 I don't think they'll be day and date like Microsoft's games, although if they continue to sell well, it's a good bet that most of their big franchises will hit the PC this generation. Probably after a year or two of exclusivity.
Also worth mentioning that PC has access to GamePass as well, which is the supposed killer app for Microsoft next gen.
These comments make me roll my eyes.
If porting this makes Sony money, that means that they can increase their studios or output. It doesn't cost them resources, if it's making them money, that they can use to increase their resources. Do any of you know how capitalism works?
Also, I'm just really happy more people will be able to experience this game. It deserves it.
Kind regards from a "virtue signalling" gamer XD
if this is a way to help fund the next games why keeping them PlayStation exclusive say 2 or 3 years I can accept that I guess.
@Nepp67 Ironic how many people support this on a website that is specifically catered to Playstation games and news lool!
Tbh I'm now seriously rethinking of getting a PS5 in the future, if this is the path that Sony wants.
I'm sorry if you took my comment personally if ever. I didnt mean to bash anybody s opinion. Every one can have a different opinion and it's fine. In my mind ' virtue signalling' meant people trying to belittle PS gamers who dont like the idea of PS studios spending time porting to PC instead of working on PlayStation.
Unfortunately I often see developers have that attitude and look down on gamers instead of respecting them.
And it's definitely not about Sony making more money or not that concerns PS gamers.
having differing opinions on this subject is just as valid — there isn't necessarily "anthing wrong" with someone who has a different perspective. what some people fear is the console market gradually shifting away to pc, therefore hurting the console space. if sony actively encourages people to play its once-exclusive content on pc, whether you like it or not, that will eat into its hardware sales on some level. little by little, its market share could decline... 15 years later, sony may think its hardware division is no longer necessary and will become a software publisher/developer only. that would be a very sad day indeed since there are many aspects of console gaming that is special, of which pc gaming either lacks or cannot replicate.
besides this point, one thing is for certain. by creating pc ports, you take away resources from sony's internal studios. resources which otherwise could be going into the development of their games and making them the very best that they can be. the "value" of ps consoles does decline if the software is no longer tied to the hardware. this is a fact. now, whether or not that is a problem depends on your perspective but regardless of which side of the fence you are on, nobody is "wrong".
@JJ2 I guarantee it is developers pushing this if Cory Barlog had his way God Of War would be on Xbox. they think we are somehow bad because we want it to all stay on Playstation.
all they are doing is watering down the brand IMO.
I’m indifferent on this issue. I have no problem with exclusives, and no problem with them being ported elsewhere.
I will probably never build a gaming PC, but will continue to buy consoles as long as I can, regardless of what other platforms Sony’s I.P. end up on. I’m sure I’m not the only one, therefore the argument that this hurts console sales holds no weight with me personally, not to mention the fact that PS5’s are being sold at a loss.
It’s great that folks are passionate about their console of choice, I am too, but ultimately Sony is in the business of making money and growing their brand. Godspeed.
Just to expand briefly on that, the publishing business is all about risk management. More money in Sony’s pocket = more risk taking = better, more varied games.
Hehe, it seems Microsoft started a trend. The PC market is too big to ignore. No issues with me.
@LordSteev hear hear!
@Porco That's all fine but to be frank, you guys can discuss your fears in a more healthy way than basically saying I don't want PC players to ever have these games. People who upgrade graphics cards and game on $2000 PC's are a completely different market than console gamers so your entire premise of it being devalued is subjective not a "fact". Sony has the data and is more informed than us on how their brand is being affected by these decisions. It's nonsense, mean spirited and a projection of fanboyism, if you can't see that I don't really care to try and convince you.
"A whole slate"
Nice to know I will not need to buy a PS5 in the future.
The term "Virtue signaling' is just name calling, and it's ironic in that it means to belittle someone for not having the same opinion as the person using the phrase. In other words, to say someone is virtue signaling is also to be virtue signaling yourself. It uses the word virtue, which sounds nice and grand, so if it helps someone climb their moral stepladder, well good for them.
As for the idea that porting old games is taking top talent away from making new ones, come on.
If anything, it's probably great training for junior team members/new hires before they are trusted with the responsibility of actually making a new game.
Back when selling consoles meant making money, exclusives made sense. They still do in a limited, short term manner. Nobody makes money off of selling consoles now, it's all about how many games or subscriptions you can sell.
You argue that if a Sony title finds it's way to other platforms years down the road, somehow this devalues Sony. I argue that if somewhere down the road the exclusive titles of other consoles find their way to the Playstation Universe, Sony grows. And if Sony can sell more games, regardless of what they end up being played on, Sony grows even more.
And the overall benefit, to us the gamers and also to anyone who makes games for a living, is we get to play the best games from all platforms while only having to buy one, and the developers get to make more money per game they create, allowing them to live comfortably and take bigger risks on their next projects with the security blanket of a huge base of potential buyers.
This whole irrational 'I only want this for me" attitude has just got to go. Sony sees it. They aren't doing what they're doing because they think it's going to hurt them.
i want this on gog please thank you.
@LiamCroft Wow, it’s been no time at all and we haven’t seen huge PS5 strikes, who would’ve guessed. It’s a much more long term perspective and conjecture. It’ll take time and more ports, but the problem could happen and it could backfire. Could we be wrong? Yes. If the PS5 selling out at this point evidence of that? Definitely not. To think so would be absurd.
@JJ2 Didn't take it personally, was just teasing you
@Porco Thank you. I read through so many of these comments trying to find an articulate explanation of what the issue is. Yours was that. I do disagree with you, though. The console/pc thing has been ongoing for about 40 years now, and the fact that there are any exclusives at all shows that there will always be both sides. If anything, consoles have taken a huge bite out of what was pc exclusive 20 years ago. As a PC guy, the 360 scared the crap out of me in 2005, but my fears didn't play out. Now I play games on all consoles and PC and wouldn't give any of them up. This argument is very unique and weird for me, because I am fully on both sides. But my 30+ years of gaming experience say that no one has anything to worry about.
If your product is not differentiated from your competitors then there is no reason to buy your product. The reason people buy PlayStations is because of the games. If those games are available elsewhere then there is less reason to buy the product. I think this is a short-sighted and dumb business move.
I would argue that the games and studios themselves are points of differentiation. Also, why should Sony worry about how many consoles they sell when the console itself is just a loss leader to grease the way for more game sales?
Obviously, you yourself have come to one conclusion, while Sony's entire marketing division have come to an altogether different one.
I wonder which is better informed?
I can't say it bothers me personally. I've already given up on the PlayStation brand years ago after the disappointing PS4 and migrated to the Switch.
The only game I might be interested in on PS5 is Resident Evil 4 remake and it will probably release on "Switch 2" at launch in a couple of years, because the original is the most popular RE among Nintendo fans.
If Capcom can make RE Village run also on PS4, I'm sure they could make RE4 remake run on a Switch successor as well (with weaker graphics of course, - but who cares as long the gameplay is good, hopefully).
@Keyblade-Dan why for console gaming as a whole? Nintendo is sitting pretty good right now.
@GKO900 But why? VR is amazing. It should be a viewing option in mainline games. Racing and shooting in VR becomes more accurate. There's nothing like it. It's far more than, just a gimmick.
I can understand if you're simply not interested. But I can't fathom how self centered you have to be to completely discredit something that's endeared by so many.
Let's hope Kena: Bridge of Spirts an Returnal go to PC soon.
@LordSteev cause more systems sold means more profit from 3rd party games bought to play on the system. Plus Sony makes a hell of alot of money from PS Plus and if people just buy Sony games on PC then we aren't buying that PS plus are we?
i find it kind of dumb that Sony is undermining there brand that brings them in billions a year to make an few extra million.
I can see porting old PS4 exclusives making sense if Sony was trying to push PlayStation now with native PC downloads but it just looks like they’re going to be content just throwing it up on steam and collecting their 70% cut.
I am for short-term exclusives. I think they help sell consoles and subscriptions. 90% of most games sales come within the first six weeks after they are released. I think 3 months of exclusivity is plenty of time to still ensure both console sales and subscriptions. If Sony can then sell games to other consoles and PC's, more power to them. And more money.
I could be wrong. But Trip Hawkins also thought he was onto something with his "sell a console blueprint" plan with the 3DO . . .
Hey man, I'm sorry if my reply came across too harsh. I like most of your posts, just didn't agree with you on this one.
That's nice of you! And fair enough if we have different opinions.
@Orpheus79V Yup, most people already satisfied with their system of choice, as long as console can give the best bang for your buck, both will stay separated I think.
Launching them years later won't hurt the brand
Exclusivity has been drained down the toilet by @JimRyanSIE . Why we spent so much on PS5 then (damn, the scalpers and sony's poor Management). I could have bought a decent PC and enjoyed free games. Exclusivity was part of the investment that we made in PS5 and its games. Screw this approach. Now I think it's ok to wait a year or two on PC because I still wait for sales on Playstation. Even if Half of PS exclusives end up on PC then I am gonna sell PS5.
@Col_McCafferty yep. Good point.
@Octane ". Question now is if Mario will ever make it to PC as an official release."
Furukawa is a Nikkei man. He'll release on iOS before PC.
... The toilet is over that way.
@Spyroescape Begging with the peasants what a joke with your superior platforms. 🤪
people busy worrying about corporate's image, instead of being happy more people get to play these gems. 🥱
this is no brainer ez money for sony.
I own a PC but i never use it no physical options on PC so im good with my console. I have a console for one reason its easy i dont have too check if something works. Dont have too upgrade i pay a few hundred bucks and its plug and play.
@TwomanybuttonS These games are years old they dont move any consoles anymore and now they can ask full price instead of €20 or less i see it as a win win. They get more money we get more new games.
@Divergent95 Why do you get a console for the exclusive games only? I get it because it easy i wont stop buying a console if it releases on PC. On PC everything needs a launcher you dont own anything with a console i atleast can get my physical copies. But thats just me i just bought SNES and I'm going too start a little retro gaming hopefully someone releases some other retro consoles like a PS1/ PS2 with HDMI so i can play for a long time.
If I may make a suggestion. In my humble opinion this is a much more interesting debate than the branding of 'State of Play' which I honestly didnt understand the point.
A poll with well thought of questions would be interesting and possibly useful
No offense intended.
@JJ2 You say that as if I wrote an opinion piece on the State of Play branding, where the majority of poll voters actually agreed with my point, and purposefully neglected this PC news. Remember that my Soapbox was uploaded on Monday and this happened yesterday.
Not a chance is Demon's Souls Remake coming to PC. At least not until the PS6 is released and a couple of years on top of that as well. It'll never happen. You need to understand what Sony are doing.
When they can get no more form their exclusive games and they are no longer pushing the platform the games were designed for, then they are considering other options like PC. They will not be porting "system selling games" from a platform they are pushing over to other platforms. That would be insanity.
Have been a 'pc' gamer for 20 years, before I never understood why people even wanted a console (even tho I did have a ps, ps2, ps3 etc) but in recent years (I guess as I'm getting older) I am spending far more time sitting in the living room with family etc playing the ps4/psvr and now especially since I managed to get a ps5. Exclusives going to PC is something I couldn't care less about, I dont believe it makes the Playstation 'brand' any weaker because ultimately your either going to be someone who prefers sitting at a pc or someone who prefers sitting in front of a big tv playing a console. The developers must see this too hence these decisions.
Please announce a sequel soon
"after the disappointing PS4 and migrated to the Switch"
Are you smoking crack?
No. Are you?
It's just my opinion.
Let's take Batman Arkham Knight as an example. There wasn't anything really new to it gameplay-wise (except the car driving which I actually liked). I was just more of the same IMO.
The thing is that the (base) PS4 has a rather weak cpu and that's why the devs couldn't really make anymore advanced gameplay routines, than they had already done on the PS3/Xbox 360 (and that again it's why they launched the Pro model in 2016 to counter that - and to provide 60fps, resolution boosts etc).
I could go on with other games like Fallout 4 (which still had the boring VATS combat system - I still liked the exploration part of the gameplay, but have only put 7 hours into the game because it felt old).
Tomb Raider series has been a shadow of itself since the 2013 reboot. And Sony's own output were boring cinematic styled games with poor gameplay, that they started with the Uncharted games and continued with TLOU etc.
As you can see the PS4 for me has been a major disappointment (and besides I prefer to play handhelds these days, which is why I've bought a Switch Lite and am happy with that).
Sorry you didnt understand my comment which was well intended and not meant to argue with you. 🙄🙄🙄 I guess you read it quickly which I understand your very busy. I see the poll is up so that's good.
If it's older titles like from an ageing ps4 library cool. Not sure if exclusives on PS5 should come to pc... We'll not at least another year. I guess Sony know what they're doing.
Hopefully more to follow.
I don't use PC but I'm happy more people can play games I like.
Honestly I'm not even surprised anymore, or upset. I expect more games to be ported to PC in time.
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