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@Oram77 I know that. But you also affirmed this generation was a resounding success. I disagree with that point. I think most of the PS5 success is not due to what Sony has done and much more about the legacy the PS4 left. I think this generation was carried by the previous one.

The only great positive I would point is that the PS5 itself is a great machine. It's quiet, fast and reasonably powerful.

@Vertere You're disagreeing with me while agreeing with me? All the Xbox failures you're pointing out just strengthen my argument that Sony succeeded partly because Xbox failed.

@Oram77 The extremely thin first party line-up and failed live service attempts disagree with that reality.

Sony was saved by a strong third party line-up, everyone already having a PS4 library, making the transfer to the new console easier, and Xbox failing miserably.

Great games and horrible business decisions, nothing more Remedy than that.

As long as it doesn't replace the product itself it's fine. At the end of the day if people want to sell AI slop the onus of being criterious and speaking with our wallets is on us.

I think the gore is a really vital part of Wolverine's style of action, but it's really nice they've given the option for people that are more squeamish.

I don't think there's much left to the God of War franchise. I'd rather the move onto something new, but I know they won't as it makes a lot of money.

At least they're a really talented team and whatever comes out of it, even if it's not for me, will be good.

@dv_xedge More than half of the games were already previously announced. The new ones are mostly sequels and there are barely any new Sony first party games.

I definitely I agree that some people need to get their head out of their ass.

@Northern_munkey Fantastic. I'll notify the historians.

@Northern_munkey Thank you very much. I'll also add to my notes that you're definitely a lovely person and not an arrogant nitwit.

@Northern_munkey Yeah, sarcasm translates really well to writing.

Let me try: Your comment was so clever! Wow, what an observant person you are.

How about you untangle your arrogance.

@Northern_munkey Yes, the game that has around 250 hours of gameplay at launch was incomplete and they took a chunk of it out.

What are talking about? How much of the game have you played?

This game has more content than 99% of the games in the market.

"Others will see a series of roadblocks thrown in the player's face as they try to navigate those problems." You mean like a video game?

It was looking a bit rough around the edges on the gameplay footage they've released. I hope it will give the team enough time to polish it.

The amount of obnoxious comments about the game not being complete by people that never played it are a really good example of herd mentality.

They could make the season pass free or discount it to come out on top of this situation, but they'd rather apologise and not make it right.

Absolutely scummy behaviour.

@Northern_munkey Oh, you're absolutely right they're not comparable as games. I meant comparable in sales performance. It would make much more sense if Marathon was a niche side project being released while Destiny 3 was being developed.

To think this could replace Destiny 2 is another one of Bungie's baffling financial decisions.

@wildcat_kickz I just don't understand how they cut Destiny 2's support before even starting developing Destiny 3. I like Bungie too, but their decisions seem baffling.

@Northern_munkey I've played it and found it extremely boring like every extraction shooter. I also don't like the art style.

I can and I will compare them, and Sony and Bungie are to blame for that. It's a niche genre, yet both companies put all their chips in it as if it was Bungie's next flagship franchise.

Now they've failed to draw numbers similar to Destiny as expected, and the studio might shut down due to this very predictable blunder.

@wildcat_kickz Ah fair, that makes sense. I still think that considering how much Bungie costs and how much money Marathon is making, it will be shut down in a few years at most. Maybe even Bungie will go down too.

@themightyant Yeah, I would hope it would, as Housemarque makes great games. But like you, I'm skeptical.

@wildcat_kickz There are currently 5.5k concurrent players on steam, while Destiny 2, which has been dropping off for a while has 12k players. Also a reminder that Destiny has a larger player base on console than Marathon.

This is not Concord levels of failure, but considering how much this game cost, for all intents and purposes it is a financial failure.

In my opinion, people that get slapped with reality in the face and still ignore it are the real wackos.

@themightyant I feel like Sony thought this was going to be bigger than it is. A bullet hell roguelike shooter is not that common of a genre and one of the reasons Returnal sold so well is that there were almost no PS5 exclusives at the time of its release.

It was also a very difficult game and many people stopped playing without beating it, reducing the interest in a "sequel" such as Saros.

I honestly think this game should've had a smaller budget that reflects its niche market.

@themightyant I don't like seeing good games fail, but Sony pricing this at £70 seems pure hubris.

I miss when these sales were good. Most games discounted by less than 50% and with discounts identical to previously received ones.

In short: no.
In long: nooooooooooooooo.

My subscription runs up until 9 June. If I let expire can I get it for 33% off? Also, do I keep the plus games I got over the years?

@BowTiesAreCool Up to The Final Shape, which means all dlc that is actually worth it.

@Oram77 "Social media taking quotes out of context and running with it?? Must be a Monday...."

User Oram77 states Mondays are statistically the most common days for spreading misinformation. Users should be careful with what they read on Mondays.

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@themightyant haha well said! That puts me in a really bad spot having both consoles.

@Haruki_NLI That is absolutely crazy. Surely there are better ways of accessing this kind of content? Anyway, thanks for this little nugget of history.

@Haruki_NLI Engaged doesn't mean not engaging with this type of content haha

I didn't know about those stats, but I can guess what it was. I now start to understand Stellar Blade's sales figures better!

@Haruki_NLI Said Haruki_NLI, while staring at the mirror.

@crossbit I understand that your situation generated frustration, but it's very far from being a major issue and it reads as the video game version of a first world problem. I went through the same thing and it barely bothered me.

When I weigh the good and the bad, I prefer them patching this much than not patching at all. I can't speak about a possible crunch, as I have no idea how the studio works.

That's a much fairer and much more in line with your Dragon's Dogma 2 review. I think your first look was a bit harsh and left out good aspects of the game.

I was curious about this one, I'm glad they're offering a demo! Maybe it will go on sale next week?

@For-Kier Right? Everyone complains games are not updated when they're released with bugs and glitches. Pearl Abyss has gone above and beyond and apparently that's a problem.

It was time to move on after the Final Shape. Now they've killed Destiny 2 without Destiny 3 even starting production. Bungie is cooked.

@TheArt It barely affects the game and the downloads are not big. If you have very slow internet it's understandable, if not, you're nitpicking for the sake of it.

@TheArt Let me guess, you played 0 minutes of the game.

The game has been feature complete for quite a while. They're adding bonuses and tweaking a few things.

But how dare them give us more for free! Pearl Abyss, I paid £50 for the game and I want no more updates that make the game even better!

Marathon will not be able to sustain the studio. Goodbye Bungie, it was nice knowing you.

Hopefully Sony hands Destiny 3 to a new studio. The IP has a lot of weight.

Meanwhile Marathon on Steam is doing worse numbers than Destiny. A reminder that Marathon sold the best on PC. On console Destiny 2 is more likely than not vastly outperforming Marathon.

Destiny died so they could chase the extraction shooter dragon and fail miserably.

The more I know about this game, the less it seems like it's going to be good.

I hope I'm wrong as I like both Owlcat and The Expanse, but if feels like they're biting more than they can chew.

We all know this is a prelude to them increasing the yearly prices, right? They'll be the last ones they touch, as most people pay yearly and it will generate the most controversy.

@Gabrielmpf What you've done is called projecting.

Because of the previous increases I went all the way from premium to essential and I have zero regrets.

Probably GTA VI. Even if it's not perfect, critics' hivemind determines it must get at least a 9 from most publications.

Ocarina of Time being a Remake will in no way beat GTA VI.

@Oram77 The good thing is we're not paying for it anymore. Starfield sales figures on PS5 were reportedly very weak.

People are finally fed up with Bethesda.