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Can't wait to fly around on my legally distinct Charozard.

Bethesda is the most incompetent AAA studio in the industry.Their whole leadership needs to be fired and the team restructured.

@lazarus11 Yeah, sometimes I forget that people on the internet love to criticise things they have no clue about just to ride the wave of what's popular.

@Fillem @Fartingale Have you played the game? It released as a complete game with some flaws. Not only Pearl Abyss fixed those problems within weeks, they're now adding things that are literally not required but make the game more interesting due to player feedback.

This game is not only feature complete, but it's also now adding QoL that is not even required.

@TheWarPigeon You're talking about edge cases. It was mostly fine for the great majority. The user reviews speak for themselves.

Buyer beware. I bought the Switch Snack World as it looked like Fantasy Life, it's most definitely not. It's a very limited dungeon crawler that gets really repetitive really fast.

@Dogbreath I love the game, yet I agree with you up to a point. I think the excessive defensiveness comes from people completely dismissing the game as pure slop, when it's actually a solid game with some flaws that are being fixed, although we'll see about 60fps on consoles. Also there's no fixing the story.

It's classic internet discourse of extremes, some people say it's an absolute disaster of a game with bi redeeming qualities and some say it's the best game ever released. The truth lies in the middle.

I think the game has potential to be one discussed for years to come, but at its current state it still needs improvements to become a classic.

I've seen gameplay videos of it, and the game was not in a state to be released, full of bugs and terrible AI. It's a shame, as it's a cheap game and if it was decent it could've sold well to keep people distracted until GTA VI releases.

Nice bait! Both him and Jennifer English are great voice actors!

@Messiahbolical Yeah, I understand disagreeing and criticising. If you look at my previous conversation, someone disagreed with me and we understood each other after talking a bit, but some people just want to attack.

@lazarus11 That's fair too! I tend to sell everything that is not unique, so my experience was slightly different with storage.

@Northern_munkey Completely agree. People are obsessed with perfect polish discourse nowadays and completely forgot that games are a sum of their parts.

If a game like Skyrim released today, it would've been lambasted by critics. Meanwhile there are still people playing it today. I honestly think Crimson Desert has the potential to be one of those generational games that will be discussed for years to come.

@CallMeDuraSouka Never spoke to you, nor will I ever again.

I don't need to interact with unpleasant beings such as yourself.

@Dyn_Arall That’s fair, and I appreciate the clarification.

I think where we still differ is this: you’re describing post-release patching as a crutch, while I see it as something that’s also prevented games from staying permanently broken.

Games have always released undercooked, the difference now is they can actually be improved after launch.

I agree with you that relying on patches to justify rough launches isn’t ideal, and Early Access is definitely a more transparent approach.

I just don’t see it as a decline in standards, more as a shift in how the same issues are handled.

@Dyn_Arall “Read my comment properly please” followed by “I respectfully disagree” is a bit of a contradiction, don’t you think? I think you disrespectfully disagree

Anyway, your distinction doesn’t really hold up.

Saying games were “baked” back then ignores that many shipped in objectively broken states. They just couldn’t be fixed, which isn’t a virtue
For example, again:

The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall: full of game-breaking bugs.
Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines: relied on fan patches to even run properly.
Fallout 2: Unstable and buggy

Those are classics, not exceptions.

You’re right that crunch, FOMO, and rushed launches are problems. But that’s a critique of how games are made, not proof that older releases were more “ready”.

All that’s really changed is that back then, if a game launched broken, you were stuck with it. Now it gets fixed.

Framing that as a decline in standards doesn’t really line up with reality.

@Dyn_Arall That’s nostalgia talking, not reality. I come from the same era.

Old games didn’t launch “complete”, they launched unpatchable. If they were broken, they just stayed broken.

The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall, Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines, Pokémon Red and Blue are a few examples. All those were considered classics, yet they had game breaking bugs and were messy at launch.

The difference today is simple: games get fixed. Back then, you were just stuck with whatever shipped.

You can criticise modern releases, but the idea that older games were all polished on day one just isn’t true.

To everyone complaining in the comment section about the improvements. The game came out with a few flaws but those were fixed right at the start.

What they're doing now is mostly fine tuning, the game is absolutely feature complete and the "incomplete game" narrative comes from people that didn't play the game and have no clue what they're talking about.

@Boxmonkey You're actually right, the game is depressing for a chunk of it, but the ending had a hopeful message.

@cainhurst94 Hard disagree. Best gameplay is undeniable, I prefer the story in 2 a thousand times.

@PuppetMaster In your opinion. In my opinion 4 is way too violent and negative compared to the other 3.

I would be excited if Druckmann was not involved with the story. Everything he touches becomes violent, dour and depressing. It works for a series like TLoU, not so much for Uncharted.

@Dogbreath Thanks for the more elaborate response, nice arguments.

DF graphs are useful, no argument there.

But you’re making a leap from ‘some people were wrong’ to ‘people deliberately lied’, and that doesn’t really hold up without proof.

Early impressions are always messy, different sections of the game, different tolerances for frame drops, different playtime. Someone saying it felt smooth to them isn’t automatically misinformation.

DF gives a benchmark, not a universal experience. It corrects the picture, it doesn’t prove bad intent.

So this isn’t a case of ‘trust being abused’, it’s just the usual gap between anecdotal comments and a more measured analysis.

Why do they look so bad?

@DennisReynolds I've played the game in quality mode on base PS5 for 50 hours.

Didn't find any issues with it. The numbers are objective, how much tolerance and what people consider good or bad performance changes.

@Drnsnsr Nothing clumsy about my rebuttal. It wasn't a criticism of the game's performance, which it does falter a lot in some regards, it was a criticism of how a lot of people just take DF's words as gospel.

Just FYI, I loved Dragon's Dogma 2 and that game had even worse performance than Crimson Desert. The game running smooth for me is less relevant than the mechanics.

@Marquez Thanks for the info!

@ShogunRok DF generally does ok technical work, but acting like their analysis is the reality is a stretch.

They’ve been wrong before, not just in interpretation, but in raw technical claims like in the Redout situation where they had to pull a video after misreporting the resolution.

Their testing is extensive, but it’s still based on limited inputs and assumptions. It’s not a perfect representation of how the game actually behaves or is intended to look.

So ignoring DF isn’t ‘ignoring reality’, thats a very oversimplified claim. It’s just acknowledging that their analysis is one limited perspective, not gospel, and many people treat it as such.

@GirlVersusGame That makes sense, and I can see why you’d feel that way. I agree no one should feel like they have nothing to offer, and that's very common in the gaming community.

The same Digital Foundry that thought Nvidia's AI garbage was great?

I trust them as far as I can throw them.

@GirlVersusGame I clearly accidentally touched a nerve there and it was not my intention. It was just a throwaway joke.

I've been fortunate enough to have great women in my life and even the relationships that didn't work did not generate hatred on my part or on theirs. I don't believe anyone should judge an entire gender by the actions of one individual.

Classifying things as "all men do this" of "all women do this" is incredibly reductive of billions of people with different personalities and backgrounds.

It's a problem I don't have.

One of the many perks of being broke.

@Marquez

Yeah, Marathon is a great game that is not for me, but the reviewers seemed to be much kinder to it despite having some flaws like the really weird UI.

Great timing to buy a PS5 Pro, congrats!

If you don't mind me asking, how's the performance on it?

@Marquez I definitely agree with you up to a point. The fact that in this game there was so much harshness with the performance and others got a pass feels slightly unfair.

I think the game was hyped up so much that a lot of people came to it with unreasonably high expectations.

I've seem several posts comparing it negatively to RDR 2, and none of them seem to take into account that RDR 2 was developed by one of the most experienced studios in the world, with a team 10x the size of Crimson Desert's.

One thing I can say is, they're being lightning fast with patches and improvements, so if you're on the fence, waiting a couple of months before buying should give more clarity.

I'm honestly concerned for this person's mental health. The way he speaks makes it sound like he has severe paranoid delusions.

Deus Ex could've capitalized on the popularity of Cyberpunk making it way more popular than it is right now, what a shame.

@Marquez Push Square score was given by a reviewer who's given 9/10 to Dragon's Dogma 2, a game that had notoriously bad performance on PS5 at release, much worse than Crimson Desert. I wouldn't take that as a definitive statement on the quality of the game.

I played on Series X. It's a fun but very limited game.

Every game Bethesda releases is more superficial with less in depth mechanics than the previous one and Starfield didn't buck that trend.

The AI bubble is getting closer and closer to bursting.

The PS5 will struggle to surpass the PS4 in total sales and the PS6 is on its way to struggle to pass the PS5.

The profit might be higher, but the software sales potential is inevitably lower.

Sony is able to screw itself even when they don't have direct competition.

@Rhaoulos That’s a very safe opinion, you get to feel smart whether the game is good or bad without actually taking a position.

Maybe be less cynical and try something new next time?

They can spin this a much as they want. It doesn't change the fact that people have tighter wallets and they're making an almost 6 year old product more expensive.

Sony will suffer the consequences of its own hubris like it did in the past.

I bought the console new for £450 four years ago.

The Switch 2 is not selling well and it's £385.

PS5 sales will fall off a cliff and PS6 adoption will be much slower.

We're clearly walking towards a new video game crash.

"While the poster has a sketchy track record which makes this far from a confirmation, it certainly adds more smoke to the rumours."

Great idea to spread the rumor mongering and possible misinformation.

Are we playing the same game? I've played it on Base PS5 in quality mode and it ran without any issues at all.

It also feels like you're contradicting yourself, as Dragon's Dogma 2 has worse performance and you gave it a 9 out of 10.

I agree with most of the sentiments on your review, but your score is harsh and it seems somewhat inconsistent with your own previous criteria.

@NonbinaryStarr 100% agreed. I'd rather have a cheap great and fun game made by a handful of people than a game that focuses on the amount of hair folicules on every character.

@GamingGod Even though I don't like Marathon, I agree with the sentiment. But if you want to blame someone, blame Sony. They pour excessive amounts of resources in a game and need it to be a massive success for it to be profitable. Sony themselves don't let the game grow due to the need of quick and massive revenue.

@Rich33 They'll fix it. That's my whole point. People keep complaining and they've admitted their mistake and are fixing everything extremely quickly. I don't see the point of bashing them continuously.

@Dogbreath You're grossly exaggerating the situation. It took me 5 minutes to adapt to the new controls.

It's pressing X twice instead of clicking L3. What a horrible nightmare!

@Oram77 It was. People are crying because the controls are different than what they're used to. It's unbelievable how lazy people are nowadays. Unwilling to absorb and accept any new information.