And just like that, another slew of E3 press conferences have come and gone. Sony's own show ended just a couple of hours ago, but what did we think of it? As is tradition, we've got editors Sammy Barker and Robert Ramsey together in order to share their thoughts, both positive and negative, on the PlayStation maker's most recent event.
Sammy Barker, Editor
The problem with setting the bar so high is that, inevitably, there comes a point where you’re not going to be able to clear it. Sony’s been bouncing from brilliant press conference to the next these past couple of years – be it PlayStation Experience or E3 – so I guess we should have expected a comedown at some point.
Tonight was that comedown for me, even though it was a decent showcase all things considered. There may not have been the surprises we’ve become accustomed to, but I think Sony first-party is still firing on all cylinders, with games like God of War and Spider-Man very much in a league of their own as far as I’m concerned.
And I mean there were surprises, too: Shadow of the Colossus is getting a remake and I’m so excited I could scream – it’s one of my favourite games of all time. And Skyrim is coming to PlayStation VR: who would have guessed that? In fact, I liked the entire virtual reality segment – it’s good to see Sony continue to show commitment to the tech.
But. But! There was something missing, and it’s probably going to take me the rest of the week to figure out what it was. The press conference seemed to just fly-by, a result of Sony ditching all of the talking heads that we tend to despise. But that had the knock-on effect of making it feel lighter than it probably was; a lot of cool stuff was actually announced prior to the presser itself.
And if we want to get into the nitty-gritty, there were a lot of little technical issues that irritated me. Muting the crowd was a terrible idea, for example, because it killed the atmosphere stone dead and it came through on the stream. And while I appreciate the attempt to one-up last year’s orchestra, the on-stage theatrics designed to accompany the trailers didn’t really work.
But I also think that maybe we’re just getting harder to please? We want rid of the waffle, but we want to hear from the developers as well. We want to be surprised, but we don’t want to look too far into the future. We want to see gameplay, but we haven’t got the patience to see the demo fully unfold. We want a Shenmue III moment, but they don’t grow on trees.
I dunno. You’ve got to remember Sony holds more than one press conference a year, and its two shows in 2016 were firecrackers. It’s clearly keeping Sucker Punch on the low until PSX 2017 a little later in the year, which is fine – it’s working on something and we’ll see it eventually. I mean, we’re all sick of seeing games too early, right?
I think we all – myself included – maybe need to take a breath and figure out what we actually want.
Robert Ramsey, Editor
Sony put on a rock solid show - I don't think you can really argue against that. Right from the off, it was game after game after game, and for the most part, everything looked ace. A buoyant Shawn Layden was the only human to grace the stage over the course of an hour, and his two separate appearances were very brief. As a press conference, it doubled down on the non-stop structure that Sony introduced last year.
Once again, the PlayStation maker went in hard with exclusive titles. It opened things with a great looking Uncharted: The Lost Legacy trailer, and then followed up with the reveal of an expansion for Horizon: Zero Dawn. Next up, a lengthy look at Days Gone via a meaty gameplay demo. It was an opening that set the pace for the rest of the presser.
However, this opening would also come to highlight Sony's desire to keep things relatively safe - and that's the only real criticism I can launch at the company's show. For all of its consistently impressive first party prowess, Sony's event did little to really blow the audience away. The aforementioned Days Gone looked great, but we've seen it before and we knew that it was coming. God of War, returning for its second E3, looked bloody brilliant in its brand new trailer, but again, we knew what to expect. The same can be said of Detroit: Become Human and Spider-Man.
For the first time in a years, Sony's E3 presentation lacked any truly impactful surprises. Don't get me wrong; myself and Sammy were literally jumping out of our chairs when the Shadow of the Colossus remaster hit the screen, and Monster Hunter returning to PlayStation is a pretty big deal - but neither announcement quite lives up to seeing Cloud's remade buster sword or watching a bearded Kratos emerge from the shadows.
And that's really the other issue here: we've grown so used to watching Sony absolutely smash E3 that a conference was always going to come along sooner or later and be just a tad disappointing - and I feel like this was that E3. But hey, let's not forget: Sony now spreads its content out over several big shows per year. E3 is no longer the be-all and end-all - we've still got PlayStation Experience 2017 to look forward to.
Ultimately, I don't think this conference is going to be remembered well into the future. In fact, I don't think this E3 as a whole is going to be remembered much past the end of the summer - but I reckon Sony still put on an incredibly solid show. At the end of the day, it's all about the games, games, games, and on that front, the Japanese giant continues to deliver.
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I'd totally agree with what you both said, it was good, but not in that top tier of previous years, it lacked that 'killer' moment for me. That said, everything showed looked like really good content, so it's still a solid 8 or 9 out of 10. We've just gotten used to 10s in the past couple of years
@antdickens Spot on. I'd give this an 8 for sure.
I believe sony still have an ammo for their next games on tgs and psx. Just be more patient my friends.
For me, E3 is a "exposition", it's say, the companies come to show their new products for the public, yeah, There is competition between companies, but, the purpose of the exhibition is primarily that, show and attract attention.
Now, Sony showed their games, and yes, did not show more than what "many" expected, but in the end, they showed games that possibly many people caught their attention, and that is already the main goal achieved;
And also, E3 is not the only place in the world to show something new, so why worry about now?, why a victory?, There will be much ahead, just to wait and enjoy what was shown for now.
@Ksatriya88 The core gaming audience is insatiable. There are literally like 20 upcoming PS4 exclusive games, and there's still a thirst for more.
I find it a little exhausting at times.
@hadlee73 it's always trailers and scripted gameplay - that's a press conference these days
The daily live streams will have sections on how the individual games play - I think that's probably a better format, otherwise it'd be 4 hours long.
@hadlee73 "Whatever happened to the old days of someone from Sony actually standing there playing a game to show us how it worked?"
Well, people used to moan and complain and whinge and whine about those kind of conferences, so they cut out all of the fat.
Seems now people want to go back to the old format?
It was ok, but seeing "coming in 2018" for a ton of Xbox and PlayStation games takes a lot of the luster off of it for me. I'd be fine if all of the giants start going the Nintendo Direct route. The "dead" crowd makes these live conferences seem less interesting.
I don't get why you guys are jumping out of your chairs for a game being remastered a second time over? I'm clearly.not disputing it's a fantastic game, but if you've played it a few times already, why the excitement? I feel like after a few times through you've gotten the full experience.
What I want from the three main shows are new entries for:
Battletoads
Metroid
Castlevania
Contra
Clock Tower
Vanquish
Mega Man
Bonk
Ghosts 'n Goblins
Demon's Crest
Final Fight
Streets of Rage
Shinobi
Muramasa
Magic Sword
Viewtiful Joe
Etc., etc., etc.
@Hordak Yeah, I felt the same. I really was hoping the Spider-Man gameplay would end with a 2017 date...so we'd atleast get SOMETHING soon.
Did I miss a date for Days Gone?? Weren't we all thinking it'd be coming this year?
@RedMageLanakyn Simple fact is that it's one of our favourite games of all time. An enhanced remaster is just the perfect excuse to play it another 50 times.
And you know Shadow of the Colossus is something special when both myself and @get2sammyb think it's god-tier. We rarely agree when it comes to the best PlayStation games!
I tell you guys over and over and over again not to expect Sony major Sony published games in the final third of the year, but you still set yourselves up for disappointment.
The problem is they announced 2018 games last year. So this year they're RE-announcing things that are still a long ways away.
That said... SotC remake and Horizon DLC were dream announcements for me, so this is still a great E3.
@RedMageLanakyn As @ShogunRok said, it's Shadow of the Colossus — aka one of the top five best games ever made.
@RedMageLanakyn I often have different taste than Sammy but we can agree on SotC. It's in my top 5 list for sure. I've beaten it on PS2 at least 30 times, and a remake just gives me extra motivation to keep replaying it.
@get2sammyb @ShogunRok @sketchturner I guess for me I just don't feel the need to own it a third time. I still have my PS2/PS3 copies and I feel like, for me at least, I've gotten what I need out of it in terms of enjoyment, and I've memorized the bosses haha!
Well I'm happy for all of you that you're getting a chance to play it again, and seriously, anyone who hasn't played it yet, this is the time.
"But I also think that maybe we’re just getting harder to please? We want rid of the waffle, but we want to hear from the developers as well. We want to be surprised, but we don’t want to look too far into the future. We want to see gameplay, but we haven’t got the patience to see the demo fully unfold. We want a Shenmue III moment, but they don’t grow on trees."
Exactly, you people need to learn what it is you actually want because while it didn't have many surprises (it still had the dual megatons of monhun and colossus, doesn't matter if not exclusive and a remake respectively, they were still HUGE), it still had the best structure and showcase of the show. EA were vastly improved but still were falling into their same traps and had so many awkward moments, Microsoft played ridiculously safe and had a few awkward moments and went way too long without highlighting a reason to actually buy their new console, bethesda was pointless and shouldn't have been a conference at all and Ubisoft are still doing cut-and-paste mainline games alongside competitive titles that have unique mechanics that SHOULD be used to bolster up their main franchises (although BG&E2 was great, but Skull & Bones is not going to do well and alongside For Honor's combat would have been better off being used as a mechanic in AC:O)
Sony showed way more actual exclusive games in a snappy presentation with no unneeded talking that reaffirms that not having a PS4 right now means you aren't experiencing a vast catalogue of fantastic games and wonderful experiences, saying Sony are missing something yet you can't pinpoint what it is says more about your thinking than the event itself...not to mention VR IS ALIIIIIIIIIVE!
Come and gone? It is not over until the fat plumber sings.
It was fine but nothing amazing. Uncharted and Spiderman for me. I dont care about VR but I agree that Sony is not forgetting about it. Poor Vita on the other hand...
Show days gone, show GoW, show spiderman that's all they had to do...from software were never going to be there(regardless of whether sony pulled stuff or not after watching ms) and surely people didnt expect R* to appear?...R* are way bigger than E3 or any other show.
It was pretty much what i expected and what me and my kids talked about yesterday
@ArkhamKnerd We do have these PS4 games releasing later in 2017, at least...
Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice - August 08, 2017
Agents of Mayhem - August 15, 2017
Uncharted: The Lost Legacy - August 22, 2017
Knack II - September 05, 2017
Middle-Earth: Shadow Of War - October 10, 2017
The Evil Within 2 - October 13, 2017
South Park: The Fractured But Whole - October 17, 2017
Assassin's Creed: Origins - October 27, 2017
Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom - November 10, 2017
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes 2 - November 14, 2017
@Hordak that's what press releases and blogs are for, E3 is a massive blow out to show the future of gaming and the big sellers for brands whether it be close (Lost Legacy) or far (Days Gone)
@ToddlerNaruto plenty more than that too, playstation will still have more games than its competitors leading from now upto the end of the year!
@viciousarcanum I only listed upcoming 2017 games that I was interested in playing. Everything else I'll be passing on.
My list of upcoming games to massive anyway and last night added Spider-Man and shadow To the list. I was still hoping for something by from software though
The show wasn't brilliant by previous standards but it was still great to watch and did exactly what it said on the tin, games and more games! The amount of games they still have in the bank and waiting to be shown properly is mental.
Made Microsoft's "exclusive" filled presentation look tired, think the pre show had as many true exclusives as the entirety of MS, but was disappointed there was nothing new from From. Spiderman looked good, unsure about Days Gone myself.
People forget Microsoft underwhelming showing is over for a full year Sony on the other hand still has TGS & PSX. I think it was quite good Spiderman looks brilliant & does God of War & Days Gone. It was also obvious it would be early 2018 release dates the end of the year are packed with 3rd party games. The games coming this year like NI No Kuni 2, The Lost legacy really looking forwards too.
@get2sammyb After a good night sleep i also came to the conclusion that my expectations were far too high. I am stocked for days gone ( i think im the only one.. As most of the People on the chat see it as doppelganger TLOU). Im hyped for God of war and spiderman.. I think God of war is my next year most wanted game. I mean i love the last of us 2 but neils agenda sometimes is an annoyance. Oohw and Ni no kuni 2 and Uncharted are on my to buy list.. If i had a psvr i would also be happy with skyrim Vr and moose. Still waiting on that gollum Vr game
@Hordak that's how e3 has always been though. Barring Bethesda these last two or three years e3 was never about showing games coming out in three or four months from the show but showing the future and why you should stay invested in or buy a system and with that in mind Sony the most out of the big three showed why you want a PlayStation.
@sinalefa Vita i still keep the thing. But its a damn shame.. I was a vita zealot but ( 24 games or more) but Sony really drop the Ball with that..
Sony really dropped the ball this year. Its lucky they were not like this at the start of the PS4/Xbox 1 generation. I could have easily skipped this presentation and would not have missed anything.
@get2sammyb Never played shadow of the colussus so im in for a treat..
@RedMageLanakyn same reason people get excited when a movie that they love and have owned numerous times gets released on every new format and that's getting to see or play it in the best possible way
@ArkhamKnerd what do you mean Sony has had way more exclusives this year then anybody else and still have the crash trilogy,Uc lost legacy,gt sport,knack 2,hellblade senuas sacrifice and ni no kuni 2 coming this year. It's like these companies can't win anymore with gamers they could release a hundred games and it still wouldn't be enough
Don't get me wrong, it was a 'good' showing but the only thing of interest that was 'new' was the confirmation of Horizon DLC and that was kind of expected. All the other games of interest to me, were shown a year ago and, for the most part still 6months + away...
SOTC may be a 'highlight' for some, but its yet another 'remake/remaster'. I guess with MS not mentioning VR in any capacity, Sony, no longer able to say the most powerful console, no longer able to say the 'best' place to play may have felt the need to push its one big 'asset' and opted to spend more time on this. However with the majority not owning PSVR (myself included), the section dragged on with game after game that looked like they would be equally at home on the '[email protected] or Indie section. It failed - mostly because they cannot show VR to its fullest on a 2D screen and partly because most of the games didn't look particular 'VR' suited either - by that I mean the games could easily have been released for non-PSVR gamers and played on 2D screens. The shooting (Bravo something) game looked like it may be the most interesting and yet another Skyrim that looked rougher and clunkier than the 'god ray' filled remaster.
Detroit had shades of Watchdogs thrown in but seemed to drag on - at least for me, Monster Hunter didn't thrill and by the time we saw Spider-Man, after the strong start, only God of War stood out in the middle section. Spider-Man had a few too many QTE's and the Combat looked very 'Arkham' - not a bad thing.
By the time Spider-Man finished though, I was left with a 'is that it' feeling. What happened to the new Sucker-Punch game. I know some were hoping to see a 'From Software' game (not that I like the Souls/Bloodborne games myself). No RDR2 either. Games like Dreams and Wild still absent after years and most of the highlights were 'last years' highlights - not saying they were poor of course. Last years also seemed better rehearsed, better but together, flowed better. The format looked similar, start off with some 'music' to hint at the first game and show off several before anyone actually starts talking.
Overall its a solid line-up but it still 'lacked' the punch. MS may not have had many 'big' exclusives and a lot of what they showed will come to PS4 eventually. AC:O, Metro and Anthem had a big impact though as did games like PUBG, Ori, the Japanese games, that 'pixel art' Bladerunner game. Like I said, I know most will come to PS4 eventually, but whether you are a PS4, Xbox or both, the line-up offered a lot more 'new' games than Sony's. I couldn't care if these do come to PS4 - point is, whatever console you have, its the games that matter. You can argue all you want about 'exclusives' but when MS's briefing offers up more 'new' games that even PS gamers can/will play, Sony's fell a bit 'flat'.
My expectations were clearly too high, possibly because I woke myself up for the first time to watch it. I think I expected something wowzer, even if teased, just to really counter the MS new launch.
There are a ton of great games that I want to get. I loved the VR section, not too long, some great big budget titles and Skyrim (which raises a dilemma for me, I have never played and wanted to get it for Switch but now... VR, first world problem right there).
I want at least half of the exclusives. I'll be getting Lost legacy, Days Gone, GOW, Spiderman at least. There was nothing at MS that I wanted by the same token.
SO why do I feel disappointed? I guess we all wanted a 'I was there' moment, like FFVII o TLOU2 and we waited through the whole conference and didnt get it. I was also expecting a price and mic drop moment to ignite the competition on price.
In the end, great set of games, I'm broke until at least mid 2018 and I should be happy. I just feel a little like I could have read about this in the morning.
I agree with both, didn't feel it this year at all. None of the games apart from Detroit and Shadow of The Colossus Remake appealed to me. Hate Superhero stuff, am sick of FPS shooters, here is hoping PSX will show us some big unannounced titles
Quite a solid show if you ask me. I think we need to keep our expectations in check after so many good E3's and PSX's in recent years.
As Shakespeare himself said:
"Expectation is the root of all heartache"
Have to agree with you both. I think Sony was always going to have a hard time one-upping itself, but I think a lot of viewers had their expectations super high, myself included. I was disappointed we didn't see anything from Sucker Punch or Red Dead Redemption 2, for example.
Having said that, God of War, Uncharted Lost Legacy, and Spider-Man all looked fantastic, and from what I caught of the pre-show stuff, there's a vast amount of content on the way, this year and next. I think maybe we've reached a point where we're overthinking these big conferences and convincing ourselves that certain things will happen, then they don't happen, and we claim it's the publishers that have failed. Maybe we should just sit back and enjoy the ride instead of analysing every last detail?
I dunno. There's a stupid amount of games out now, out soon, and coming in the next year or so - let's be thankful for what we're getting rather than sulk about what we're not getting
Also agree that muting the crowd sound is a bad idea. It loses atmosphere and sounds like nobody's bothered!
@banacheck Are you forgetting Gamescom?? MS may not have a presence at TGS but they will likely be at Gamescom in August.
@get2sammyb Its not that I am 'disappointed' with the number of exclusives at all, it was more the lack of something 'new' considering we were all expecting Sucker-Punch and a number hoped that From Software would bring that.
A lot of Sony's, was solid but still felt like 'deja vu', a copy and paste from last year - just with different game-play. I know you may have been excited for yet another remaster/remake but for me, the 'highlights' were exactly the same games that were 'highlights' last year. Swap Horizon the game, for Horizon the DLC and I am still looking forward to ALL the games I was this time last year except last year - most were 'new', fresh games to look forward to.
Uncharted, Days Gone, God of War, Spider-Man were all revealed last year - along with an early peak at Last of Us 2. All added to my wanted list - but this year, my wanted list hasn't really been added to from Sony's E3 - just Horizon's DLC. The same games I wanted after E3 2016, are the same games I want after 2017...
It's a good show, the problem is the previous show is miles better. I think the problem is a lack of new big AAA games announcement, like god of war, spiderman and death stranding like previous year.
Sony should announce gt sport and senua sacrifice release dates on e3 though, and shadow of the colossus is better saved for psx since it's still a year away. And where's the japanese games? I was hoping for dmc5 or platinum games and yet we only get mh world.
I don't understand people whining about a big fall 2017 exclusive games though, sony just doesn't do big fall exclusive games, except maybe grand turismo. And people conveniently forgetting all the exclusive sony/3rd party games that has been released up until now.
The game announcements weren't that bad, and even if there is not a 'ton' of exclusives coming this year, there's still probably enough that will be releasing this year too, and there's already a huge backlog for many gamers. I still can't wait for Knack 2, as I did love the original, and we still have games coming...Everybody's Golf in August and there is still more...lots of games to look forward to this year, and who knows how many more will be added to that list by the holidays! That given, I'm still not giving up hope on getting a new Devil May Cry or possibly ICO being re-remastered for PS4...also, Ape Escape, Twisted Metal and a new Infamous would be nice too!!!!
It was weaker than the last few years but leagues ahead of the competition.
If anything, this felt like a sequel to last year's conference - updates on many of the games that were announced then, but little new to complement it.
won't watch it until tonight.. but by the sounds of it, it seems to be pretty much what the pushsquare editorials predicted, so i'm not really sure what you wanted. i always thought a reveal of a new sucker punch game was unlikely (and voted 'no' in the E3 predictions poll).. sony's line-up for 2018 is pretty clearly roadmapped, and i don't really see the point of revealing games that won't be out until 2019.
none of the other conferences had a single new game that interested me that much, so all this has to do is not put me off the games that i was interested in after E3 last year. i'll see when i watch the presentation later this evening.
@BAMozzy Agree on the VR section. Several left me puzzled as to why they were on that format in the first place and I wonder if they will work without the headset, thus reaching a larger audience?
Microsoft overused the term exclusive, not the first company to do this but worst culprit this e3 for sure. Having the confidence in and exclusive content for PS4 for nearly the full presentation (call of duty and destiny aside, I'm not counting timed exclusives) put Sony ahead in my book. Now I just want some must have games for Switch and I'm set till 2020.
I thought it was a solid conference, but one that very much played it safe. I've no interest in Detroit or VR, but almost every other game in there is one I would definitely pick up.
How derivative is Days Gone though? It's like every single part of it is nicked off something else. Like it was designed by a focus group who have only played 6 games. Gonna wait and see on that one.
Other than that, GoW looks Good, and HOLY $#!¥ SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS! Spiderman is a day 1 obviously, and monster Hunter looks fun.
Obviously I'm a bit disappointed that From soft never showed up, but I suppose there's a chance we may still get Bloodborne 2.
It's also understandable that Naughty Dog didn't show TLOU 2 as they were promoting Uncharted 4; Ladies Night.
Still, I'd rather we were complaining about there being too many big titles to show than that they had two old men messing with plastic toy guns, trying to polish the turd that is a bloody card game, or faffing about with cars for some reason.
Or God forbid, boring us all senseless with sportsball and tossers in blazers.
It may have been stripped down, but it was classy, and it showed that Sony is streets ahead of the competition.
@leucocyte You talk about not revealing games in 2017 that won't arrive until 2019 but then we had a LOT of games in 2016 that won't arrive until 2018. We also have games like Wild and Dreams that have 'disappeared' for years. If these games 'still' exist, maybe could have 'reappeared' to give us something 'different' from last years.
The point is that the same 'big' highlights from this years is the same 'big' highlights from last year. Maybe Sony should have shown Gravity Rush, Nioh, Nier, Persona etc instead of Last of Us 2, God of War, Spider-Man, Days Gone and/or Dreams - showing games that actually released within a year of E3 and kept (some of) these for this year instead. Spread them out a bit instead of giving us a similar E3 2 years on the trot.
For me they hit it out of the park.
This was one of the worst E3 conferences I have ever seen. If two of your reveals are a SECOND remaster of a PS2 game & some VR stuff.....that is a joke. And they were showing DLC? I started laughing. Also, I thought Sony was all about the indies? Where were they?
This is why you don't show games that are 2-3 yrs. out, like they did in the last 2 conferences. Because you end up with shows like this. And glad to see all those marketing deals doing them any good on stage.
Also, is it just me or will Nintendo's direct will be longer than this? When it ended, they showed the crowd they looked like......"Is that it? Is it over? So, we leave now?"
I am shocked. This conference is getting ripped everywhere but here.
God Of War & Spider-Man looked good. But it's yet another GOW game & there were way too many QTE's.
The Sony presser was pretty good, while I agree that this one lacked a certain something that shock announcement, something but really they showed a ton of stuff.
I was especially surprised by Detroit the whole fact that it reverses the machines gone rogue thing in making us the machines was pretty cool, then there was gow which looked incredible, spider man again looked superb, the lost legacy looked gre8 so did days gone also was pleasantly impressed by all the psvr stuff they showed.
All in all a pretty solid show its amazing that even after showing sooooo much stuff that the whole hour was just trailer after trailer there is still so many things that we have a hint but are either unannounced or were simply absent, there is tlou 2, death stranding, sucker punch's new game(was disappointed it was not announced but oh well), the from software game, shenmue 3 and stuff we don't even know about, Sony seriously has a lot going for it in the coming months I just can't wait for there future releases and announcements.
"Sony brought the best games "
Nintendo hasn't even gone yet. A bit early to say you're the winner.
@KelticDevil feel sorry for you then it blows me away. Every trailer i watch this E3 makes me feel more ecstatic. My best E3 almost i loved every trailer Detriot epic, Spiderman epic , GOW epic, Ni No Kuni ll epic, Days Gone epic, Matterfall epic, Uncharted epic, Remaster Shadow of the Colossus epic, Horizon epic. Only a ICO remaster would make it better. This E3 has blown me away.
Do you really have the chance to play all the great superb games that are coming out this year. I mean i dont know. You are too demanding as a crowd and hard to please.
Sony achieved what they wanted to achieve. Gaming is an evolving trend that 10 years ago looked completely different and there are A LOT of new comers into the industry every year, Sony targeted those with a big statement, great looking exclusives (we gamers seen before but not necessarily all and certainly not these new comers deciding to pick up a console now) and already available PS4 PRO which is a powerful machine you get to save 100 USD compared to competition coming later this year and they get to play these great exclusives plus a better 3rd party support. The disappointment that you feeling now is because of their last few shows (E3 & PSX) where they showed a lot of exclusives and also the rumours broke out way before E3 about a possible From Software exclusive and a new Sucker Punch IP which they could be true but there was no absolute necessity for them this show because of above. Some were disappointed for not having another look at Last of us part II or Death Stranding that for my money, Sony will keep the first + a possible new IP from Sucker Punch to PSX and the latter for next E3 reason would be too early to talk about as it could take eternity due to Kojima’s attention to details trend. With extended trailer of AAA games such as GoW, Spiderman, Days Gone and Detroit: Become Human, decent VR content and 3rd party delivering better support to PS besides a solid exclusive 2017 So far I don’t see them slipping certainly not in sales. Show was very good, they focused on their interest and not react to competition, would say they had above in mind and achieved what they came for. Announcing X1X at 500 USD coming in 5 full months will increase PRO sales.
Sony is suffering from the PSVR push. You see those PSVR games? That's presentation time away from more interesting games, and that's development time away from more interesting games. So PSVR brings the Sony showing down, and Sony looks worse because of it.
I missed the conference but it doesn't seem like an amazing showing at all. At the very least Monster Hunter World and Shadow of the Colossus being remade are awesome announcements but otherwise it looked a bit subdued andI would've expected more really but those two games could be incredible.
Sorry i was missing epic in the thing to choose i loved everything i saw maybe im easy to please. I love FF7 but we can play that on the PS5 or the end of PS4 cycle. Dont get me wrong i want to play it more then anything but it will take ages before we play it. This E3 shows me games which i can play in the recent future im ecstatic. 😀 😁
I thought their conference was good and all the expected games were shown. But I think, like some other folks, that Sony will bring the 'woohoo' factor at PSX later in the year. However, I had a personal fireworks-moment when Inpatient and Hidden Agenda were revealed 😎
Those PS Exclusives ALL look AMAZING Short Show which was cool really because normally it's to long but then again you can't please everyone on the internet
As i said earlier...From Software were never going to show anything at E3(tgs or psx for sure tho), RDR2 never going to happen at E3, R* are bigger than that, sony did exactly what a good many people expected them to.
Its not been a great E3 overall...ubi was ok, Bethesda shouldnt have been a conference at all, Devolver was pretty great, sony did the job and ms underwhelmed(no console to see,the price in general and simply saying 499,im assuming thats usd but are they too embarrassed to also announce the price on pounds/euro?, most of the stuff they showed had careful wording surrounding it because their own exclusives simply weren't there yet in any number)..i wanted ms to be so much better but it was just lacklustre....roll on Nintendo!
Solid show imo. Nothing crazy and no real surprises but it was tight, fast paced, and energized my excitement for games we already knew about. I'd give a solid B
I just saw the highlights, and while there are some good games to look forward to, I feel that they announced too many of these too early last year which kind of made this year retread the same ground.
Still, things to look forward to.
@Mahe @Mahe @teknium_
Hi There, There are Poeple turned up in their plenty on line just for the PSVR, while you and I not 100% behind VR but Sony sees potential for growth there. Remember competition has no such thing.
It wasn't bad but nothing got me to cheer this year. I'm happy to see a Shadow of the Col remake, and it looks pretty. I'm happy for Monster Hunter on PS4. I think Days Gone, Spider-Man and God of War look like smash hits for next year. I personally gave this panel a 7 and so not bad but not a Sony Panel I'll talk about for years to come like the last few. I would have been a little happier if the Frozen Wilds DLC could have at least had a date other than 2017.
@teknium_
Agree with you, they (Sony) had a goal and that was achieved because it was simple majority of their show was quality AAA titles in extended trailers exclusivley for PS GoW, Spiderman, Days Gone and DBH even if they were shown before. There was no need trash the show with timed exclusive mobile looking games just for the sake of qunatity arguement.
It was good, not great, but good. Frankly, it was missing an excelent Metal Gear Solid gameplay demo and trailer, but such are the times we live in.
Skip the pre show and dot those games, gt sport, knack 2 etc amongst the big reveals.
It was a crazy approach. The pre show games in many ways wers better than the main event. Too many action Uncharted clones.
@RedMageLanakyn I'm with you, I don't get the big hoorah about SotC being released yet again. Is this really newsworthy for a conference?
I honestly loved the show and thought the pacing was great. The problem for me is I expected it to last an hour and a half, per usual. They mixed it up and only went an hour and it left me with an "is that it?" Even though I loved the content.
@KelticDevil
Agreed about no indies. Japanese games were sorely lacking too.
U can expect much more from Sony we already know all there big exclusive that will be coming out in the future. To me I think it was a good presentation because the show good gameplay from days gone which the game looks impressive. God of war look like bloody hell awesomeness, Detroit human I got see more gameplay and last and not least spider man gameplay looks amazing, best I've seen.
I thought it was a good show as far as games go. I want to play most of them and personally I thought the quantity was fine.
There were not many surprises though. Most of the games they showed, they showed at one and/or multiple shows in the past. Yes, Shadow of the Colossus was a nice surprise, but it's another HD remake. The best surprise for me was the announcement of Monster Hunter World. But after those two, there weren't many others that I cared for.
As for Shadow of the Colossus, I hope they don't plan on selling it for $60. Even though I bought it day one on the PS2 and enjoyed it, it's not a very lengthy game and the replay factor is kind of low IMO. I am very excited to see how good they can make it look though. Also, I hope they fix the controls too. That would be nice.
Edit: For those in the US looking for the MvCI demo, you need to search in the store for "Marvel v". If you don't add the"v" it doesn't show up. Then you'll find 3 listing, I think 1 was for MvC3, 1 was for the standard edition, 1 for the deluxe. You need to choose Standard, it isn't in Deluxe, then you need to scroll down 3 screens, past the deluxe listing, to find the 5.74GB demo.
I swear it was like using The Holy Hand Grenade.
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Anybody remember seeing in the show Marvel v Capcom Infinite and them saying "story demo available" then either "now" or "soon" or "after the show"?
Looked all over, can't find it. I don't think I imagined it b/c while we where watching it my kid asked me to DL it for him before I went to bed. Thanks.
@rjejr definitely on the eu store(not much help to you i know) in the demo section.
I know I don't speak for anyone other than myself, they showed off a lot of beautiful games but nothing really for me. For a second I was thinking Monster Hunter was a new From game and was really excited. It still looked beautiful and I'll keep an eye on it but overall I was disappointed.
@teknium_ Thanks, didn't think of that as I was too busy being annoyed. Did finally find it, editing now.
I thought it was really disappointing as a whole, no news that was worthy of a conference,it was kind of like they just shrugged and said "We got nothing new this year but we HAVE to have a conference right? Just put up a screen and show some trailers." The only thing I really got excited about was MH:World.
I thought the VR section was terrible. There wasn't one new big budget game and nothing from Sony themselves, seems like they are giving up on it already.
And the Spiderman segment actually made me actively not want the game,it's just an Arkham clone with an excessive number of quicktime events.
E3 this year was overall disappointing.
I liked it, it was short straight to the point and they didn't pad it out with load's of bs. Looking forward to Shadow, Monster Hunter and CoD look's like it might actualy be good again, i'm getting PSVR so Skyrim excite's me even if it looked scratchy atm. Wasn't amazing but it was pretty good, certainly better than MS's. Spiderman looked ok but very similar to Batman which I still have and still haven't played much at all.
Aw I love you guys at pushsquare. Spot on, I totally agree with your opinions and more. Maybe it's a platinum trophy if Sony can surprise us 10 years in a row! Thinking outside the box maybe they toned it down a little to allow Xbox to catch up?! Or taking to 2 years to plan something epic next year! After seeing the show I'm a bit relieved - hopefully to use 2017 as time to relax and enjoy my games instead of rushing to complete and get the next big thing. But 2018 looks chocca full of state-of-the-art games... like a squirrel time to hide my nuts ready to enjoy in 2018!
I thought it was quite dissapointing. No big surprises, and either the exclusives have no date, or are 2018. Sure the gameplay looked great, but I watch E3 for the announcements. This was just last year's games but with gameplay and loose dates. And no, a remake of SoTC isn't exciting. If I wanted to play that game I'd play it on Ps2 or 3.
'twas a solid showing but I agree it lacked the wow factor of previous years because it was short on surprises and largely stuck to pre-announced software. I get the feeling that beyond 2018 the PS4 may actually be starting to wind down. Excellent first-party as usual, but perhaps they could have shown more of their Japanese third-party exclusives?
Definitely wasn't worth staying up for, baffling middle finger to indies, weird decision to mute the crowd, but overall still fairly...decent. They should be on their knees thanking Spider Man for saving the day. Hopefully Skyrim VR will help shift some psvr units as well. With regards to SotC, it will be a somewhat new or alternate narrative, not the same story as the last remake, they aren't that lazy or insulting. Can't wait!
@get2sammyb Lol not I I'm ok with 1 at a time . Adults just not enough time to play it all lol till years later
Still the best press conference at E3 so far, that to me is enough. They didn't "fail" at anything.
I seriously feel bad for anyone who felt Sony fell short or didn't "wow" them like the previous years. Their presentation was still top tier and the games announced were exciting.
@Ksatriya88 I think that might be the case as well.
Pretty disappointed how there was barely anything new. SotC is a masterpiece and the remake looks beautiful, however it is the 2nd time they're remastering it. Also I'm concerned about the lack of Dreams and Sucker Punch.
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