It’s funny but I was literally just about to buy A Fisherman’s Tale 2 and Kandagawa Jet Girls, and I delayed to see if I was being ripped off by not getting it as cheaply as others. Sony will lose some sales that way if this becomes more widely known.

I’d really like to know how things are decided. I’m sure some meta analysis can be done. Do people get better deals if they never buy day 1 for example? or if they only buy when a price hits its lowest ever rather than in any random sale? What are the criteria? How much money have in your wallet?

Of course there is a very unlikely best case scenario, but it all depends on how they interpret data I guess. Perhaps someone like me, who knows physical is way cheaper and so only buys digital on deep sale, will see more sale prices as the algorithm knows that’s the only way it’ll get money from me?

Taking a break from Graveyard Keeper 2 for a bit. Done most stuff and think I’m at the end of the story, what’s left feels a bit like busywork (or maybe the 100hrs I’ve put in has just worn me down a bit). Bought Neon Abyss for £4 last night and I think that’ll see me through nicely until Raccoin comes out. An addictive little shooter rougelike. I really should get back to the phenomenal KCD2 before it leaves PSPlus but I keep thinking about the size of it and just don’t have the energy…

Will certainly give this a go given what I’ve seen so far. At this price it’s worth the risk even if it turns out to be flawed late game.
Looks like there’s a demo available but will probably skip it and just jump right in to the final game as the dvs say there will be a lot of changes.

Monster train 2 is great - although the original is better.

Anyone know whether they removed the post launch nudity censorship?

Shame devs aren’t more egalitarian when it comes to face changing.

Might try mafia the old country. I think Forbidden West was on extra before and I never played it(?). Tales of Arise would have been the most exciting game for me if I hadn’t already finished it. A decent month overall, especially with a VR game being included!

Without VR I’m out. Will just seem like an entire dimension is missing as I’ve become
So used to playing it from the inside, not outside looking in through a screen.

@The_Hooligan
It’s Eve. And true, it’s is incredibly difficult to innovate year on year. So perhaps they shouldn’t keep cashing in on iterations and take the time, and the risk, to make something different.

If you make the same game, and they are reviewed constantly by the same people, scores will drop. And if they are played by the same people the lustre will reduce for players too.

Nice to get a VR game in Midnight Walk. Nothing else of interest though.

I’m actually glad. The fact it a fundamental change is needed. Games are becoming to safe due to the high cost of production and long timescales. That isn’t good for gaming.

In a different timeline, you could walk round the reserves and zoos in VR. Which would be infinitely better.

@GirlVersusGame
I did. Hit what I thought was a softlock bug in Graveyard Keeper 2 (thankfully just me being an idiot), and decided to go back to your list and try one you’d recommended. Thanks for that. It’s a great game. Much better than the ball x pit that I’ve bounced off now. I just have to unlock the 150 and 200 item trophies now.

Graveyard keeper 2 and Army of Ruin for me.

Great. Include stuff with PS Plus Premium though, I’m not having yet another sub.

Well, this cements my move to PC when my PS5 reaches end of life. I can’t imagine wanting a machine lacking in VR capability.

I guess I’ll wait it out to see if Sony allow a meta made headset to pair with the next PlayStation but, if not, I’d no more buy PS6 than I would have bought PS1 if it was Incapable of 3D graphics while Saturn was. It’s exactly the same thing - a whole dimension missing (alongside perspective, motion controls, etc).

Bafflingly shortsighted decision.

I’ve certainly had way more than my money’s worth with PSVR2, and I know it’ll still be supported by 3rd party for a while, but man…

@hides
OK that provides a bit of perspective. Thanks for doing the research.

@Quintumply
The problem I have with many of these games is that each puzzle eventually becomes a variation on the same thing with just incrementally more complexity / tedium / frustration (depending on my ability). I like these games initially, but they eventually run out of ideas and there is therefore little payoff to doing yet another puzzle of the same concept in a slightly longer or more complex form.

It’s the devs/publishers who decide to release this way. Probably to save a little money on certifications and such. Utterly ridiculous, but we’ve had decades of people denigrating trophy challenges and this is what happens.

By far the worst selection in a very long time

@GirlVersusGame
I think the issue with ball x pit it that you can just abandon out of games, then hit your characters into buildings to level and get lots of gold, then do it again…sure there is a timer for materials, and you might as well play the game while waiting for that time gate to pass, but you eventually get beyond even that. It’s too easy to finish with almost all characters, and the couple that may not click with you can just be partnered with the auto play character…the gameplay itself becomes so repetitive that my only thinking now is whether to let it play itself to get the final trophies, reading or whatever, or whether that’s just a waste of electric and time.

@GirlVersusGame
It’s just a mid level Zombie collar so they can have some additional perks (the zombies level as you do). I’ve stopped with ball x pit for now. Will likely go back, but once I got the character that just plays the game for you the tedium of the moment to moment easy gameplay really came to the fore. Personally I want to stick with KCD2, especially as it will leave Extra at some point, but GK2 is just too addictive!

@GirlVersusGame
Yes, I have 8 now, and just unlocked the gold collar so I can get my second level 10. Levelling them up to be a combat team. I think I need at least 6 perk options to get the combat skills, but I’m not that far progressed yet.

Graveyard keeper 2, and I feel much safer now the first console patch is out. Great addictive game.

Always up for a good roguelite, and. I online trophies…looks like I’ll get this at some point.

I don’t care. I don’t have nor want any Playstation Friends. I would like a proper filtering function.

He’s right, deborah is very attractive. Which is why the other guy is also kind of right, as they have worked very hard to make this look like Deborah’s mum. Which is fine. Trying to gaslight people into not seeing a difference by equating one with the other is almost as disagreeable as the ridiculous assumption that everyone finds beauty in the same thing, or even that all female game characters have to be attractive. Why is he telling the world and Deborah that people are criticising her looks, when in fact they are just criticising the character design? - the two not in any way the same! That’s pretty low.

@Grumblevolcano
So you want fewer challenges given to you by the game developers? Basically less game? I can understand not wanting pop ups, which can be turned off of course, but that’s just not understandable to me.

Sure, there are some that are poorly or lazily designed, but that’s a dev problem.

My first reaction was one of cynicism. But I tap a lot for shop purchases, transport etc, and this would actually just be convenient.

@GirlVersusGame
It’s a great game that builds on the original. I’ve not even gotten my first zombie yet and it’s still fun, but I can see automation will shortly be extremely welcome (apple trees bear fruit in a few in game days btw lol).
I’ve only done one fight. It’s not yet my favourite element but I haven’t got my own zombie team yet. I would have preferred more of a dungeon diving system, similar to something like Core Keeper (which I highly recommend), but it gives definite progress points, and does add something different to just the endless building progression. Definitely recommended.

Playing graveyard keeper 2 this weekend. Streaming onto the portal. Stuck in a premier inn but the ultimate wifi has run it flawlessly the last few days. Impressed by how solid it’s running and the game is great.

This is a slight concern, but as long as they still sell them after 5 years or so I will certainly buy another. More easily replaceable batteries would be nice, but I suspect, being similar to the Dualsense, the triggers won’t last much longer under sustained play (although it gets much less use than the standard PS5 of course).

@kyleforrester87
Indeed you can’t. I used to change up Microsoft reward points from surveys and such into Amazon vouchers then PS Credit, but Amazon stopped us being able to exchange vouchers for credit vouchers for some reason.

I think I’ll stick to the ps5 for a good while. Looking at the last 10 games I’ve played, it’s only KCD2 and Stella Blade that couldn’t really have been done on a last gen system, and in terms of minutes played - well, most could have been done on a ps4 I suspect.

PS Stars was great because it was for all money spent, including older games, games on sale, and wallet top ups. Doing it this way lets them offer it only for specific games, and potentially only to specific people. No doubt it’ll just be for new games at the currently exorbitant prices, and perhaps even only for select people whose purchase history they know.
Sorry for being cynical, but they made me this way.

It’s better than nothing, but still represents a massive loss over what you could get back physically. Plus I suspect they’ll screw it up by, for example, only having it available for some games (such as newer more expensive ones).

All I’m hearing is that you’ll lose bonus experience points if you dare earn too many through gameplay. I would still do side activities of course, for fun, but it sticks in the craw just a little.

Stuck in a bloody premier inn for 9 nights due to my boss being cheap. I had pre bought Graveyard Keeper 2 with a view to playing it on release and brought my Portal with me, but the crappy Premier Inn wifi can’t handle the steaming, so I’m stuck not playing anything this weekend, nor indeed next.
Oh well, maybe GK2 will have some bugs and such ironed out by then.

@ThroughTheIris56
But isn’t everyone saying that AI can’t create? Isn’t it the humans creating the ai? The AI using human output? The humans monitoring and editing this output? How is it different from a human using a experienced past work for inspiration, other than their being one more human created tool in the mix?

And if by created you just mean output by computers, then that already happens. It’s how videogames are made.

Now, if you were talking about ai “creating”, say, a physical painting, then that would be different as you would lose the individuality of how the artists strokes the brush etc, but when talking about an artistic endeavour always output as code, I don’t see the relevance.

@SoulChimera
Yeah, I downloaded it for free too and have been playing since last weekend.

Not really sure I could bring myself to care about either honestly. Diablo 4 I was looking forward to, but the scaling made it feel like a wholly pointless endeavour with little progression value, and another first person shooter? I became bored of the whole genre 15 years ago.

@GirlVersusGame
Maybe there is some genre crossovers, I’m not sure of exactly what makes one a roguelite and another not, but they are all labelled as such in my head.

Wasn’t me about Soulstone Survivors I don’t think. I can’t remember any technical issues I’ve had anyway (PS5). These games are certainly addicting. And endless. Luckily I can work towards trophy completion as the end game rather than keep going forever, otherwise I’d imagine I wouldn’t have had time to try half of them!

@GirlVersusGame
Well slay the spire, Rogue Legacy 1&2 and hades 1&2 obviously; ball x pit is on Extra now and is quite good, and Vampire Survivor may be too and that’s great; Absolum is a skip, Soulstone survivors maybe although not top tier, Gordian quest is great although a long form RPG roguelite rather than quicker runs; Monster Train 1 and 2 are good, and halls of torment (although a bit buggy); skip darkest dungeon, and maybe The Rogue: Prince of Persia too (although that might be on Extra); Skul is OK, star renegades is good, skip Astrea, Roguebook is good; synapse is great if you have VR, as is Cave Digger 1&2; Balatro of course; skip Rogue Lords…

Roguelites have quickly become one of my favourite genres, so I guess this goes straight on the wishlist. Although looking at the price I’ll wait for it to go on sale furst.

Having a great time with ball x pit. Don’t know what people expect these days, but a few games I’m interested in, but not enough to buy (apart from ball x pit, which I was going to), and that’s what it’s for.

@Northern_munkey
Took me a while to answer for some reason…

Just downloaded Ball x Pit. So between that and KCD2.

Ball x Pit! Was waiting for it to be finished before buying, and now I don’t have to. Win! A great game to play alongside Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. Plus is really paying off recently.

DUNGEONS OF HINTERBERG Also looks good, and no real time pressure to do everything, which is what is sometimes frustrating about games with this type of structure.