@get2sammyb Well, extra is the same price as the Xbox premium if you pay per month. But you get first party games from MS after a year and some streaming…personally I think PS Premium is best, but best is still not that great.
I get premium for about £100 a year I think, maybe a bit less. And I do so mainly because it’s like £20 more than the Extra tier and lets me stream to my Portal. If it went up to this I’d probably stop subscribing altogether.
Man, what a disappointment this remaster was. Thought they might finally fix it but they barely addressed the glaring problems of the original, plus added technical issues.
@MrPeanutbutterz The thing people are usually concerned about in these situations is that non western cultural ideals will change the product; ironically, here, I think it could make things better.
I wouldn’t expect Saudi to finalise a sale. Gambling and lottery is illegal there and against their culture, if they remain consistent that will gut the profitability of EAs biggest franchises (for the better in my opinion, but hey).
I generally dislike games that are never finished / completeable, and definitely will not play a game if it removes content to encourage FOMO. And generally won’t play a game that is deliberately trying to be trendy for young people (I’m 42)…yet you have me intrigued.
I’d also be concerned if it is a heavily online game. I mean if it plans to make money from selling cosmetics can I presume it will be social in the open world element?
I’ll have to learn more about how the story unfolds, but it sounds like it draws heavily from the yakuza games, which is my favourite series of all time.
I just watched the gameplay vid and, my god it’s gorgeous, and I very much love the character models.if it manages to be a single player game without all the usual free game failings then great, but I’d be a lot happier just to hear it was a totally offline paid for product.
Must admit, kind of annoyed they are adding to what’s, for me, a complete and finished story in a couple of yakuza games now. Do I want to commit anything up to 200hrs to play through again to experience those additions? Not really. But now I feel like I don’t have the full experience. Can’t they just keep making additional games that don’t add in to what people have experienced already?
I do wonder whether they “fixed” the minigames that became harder in the switch to 60fps. Getting the plat on 3 was a little frustrating because of it if I remember correctly.
Edit: I’ll probably play through them all again from 0 lol. Best series ever. Maybe they won’t be as block heavy in the 3 remake.
I like something for getting trophies, but won’t be buying tat. I’m willing to pay postage and packing for my platinum reward, if it’s good in itself, but this money is crazy (Get me an Astro bot figure or something and i might consider it). I wouldn’t really call the chance to purchase something a reward though.
Make or break for me is how much rubber banding there is (hopefully none). Included in this, biasing towards certain weapons and such depending on what place someone is in.
If any are more familiar with the originals could you let me know how many liberties the localisation people took? I know of several unfortunate insertions and adaptations that change characterisation somewhat, so that doesn’t give me a good impression. If it’s too much I might get around to playing the originals. I liked Cold Steel 1&2 so I figure I’d like these too.
Yeah, great, but I’m getting a bit bored of everything in VR being horror now. Yes it’s the best place for horror games by far, but it’s also the best place for pretty much any other type of game too. A bit of variety please.
Sorry, but streaming games, portable play, and high end graphical showcases, just do not mix. I have no interest playing a cinematic game on a small screen on the tube, and I couldn’t anyway as I’d have no or poor connection for streaming.
I love my portal for turn based / slow, Indy and narrative based games, (I’ll be getting a lot of play on it as I’m starting a 10 day trade shown this week) but I’m not going to play big games on it, I’ll save that for when I’m home.
Edit: I only consider it worth discussing this in terms of what it can do for that presumed handheld. Literally no reason to use it otherwise. And I’m not going to suppose native play yet - even with slight performance reductions you won’t get PS6 like performance in handheld form
Penny pinching in the extreme. Still, I’ve never had a problem with this much storage space. Probably would have done as a kid when I shared with 2 siblings though.
Must admit, with it releasing on Gamepass I’m thinking it might hit Plus at some point and that pushes it down my list a bit. I’ve still got to finish Elden Ring and Kingdom Come 1&2 yet…
Those type of cinema numbers, for a format that doesn’t take anywhere near as much to make as a Hollywood movie, is very impressive. Compared to joe much most videogames make too, it’s obvious why Sony are pushing this.
@LikelySatan
No, that’s why they were separated in that sentence. A development studio is not only more than the devs, but the devs are very rarely in control of the company. I think you are deliberately misunderstanding, so I’m out of this “conversation”.
@LikelySatan
Well, it was not mentioned In the patch notes for the guilty patch, so you decide on whether the company wanted the devs to be open about it. I wasn’t there so can only infer like you. But I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. I think you might be one of those pedants who argue only governments can censor, or one who likes to hide censorship behind the “the devs just changed their minds” cop out, but apologies if I’m wrong.
I don’t like the idea of a “streamlined” narrative. Give me the full story. All the games. Tell me which order to buy them in and I will.
I get the feeling I may be missing something however. By streamlined they may mean sped up, according to some things I’ve read elsewhere. Anyone know if anything is missing?
Really don’t see the point of removing PSVR2 games. If anything they should ensure they stay on and advertise the hell out of the immediate catalogue of games available to anyone getting the headset. Plus the games are cheap anyway, surely can’t cost Sony that much to keep on.
@LikelySatan
They clearly did. Our definitions of “authority” may differ, but it’s clearly what happened.
I’m not sure what you are considering as conspiratorial. If it’s that devs, or other members of a company, are told not to comment on censorship then that’s a fact with many confirmed examples. As well as just being a logical requirement of a company censoring their own products.
@LikelySatan
Who knows? Societal trends and the PR department most likely.
Or maybe they decided to put loads of work into a game for years, advertised heavily before and at release that it would not be censored due to the narrative and feel of the world being what they intended, and then just…changed their minds.
Doubt it though.
The simple truth is that devs are not allowed to comment on such things.
@TheIronChimp
Sure. If you buy everything you want before it can come to a service that service isn’t going to be worth anything so why don’t you just buy the retro games when released too, they are much cheaper. I don’t get why you would get Premium for some retro games yet buy everything else. Didn’t mean for that to sound critical, sure you have a reason, I’m just bemused.
@TheIronChimp
But the price of premium is £1.66. And sure you have to keep it to keep playing the game, but these small games are finished in a month or two; once finished I won’t play thrm again. Maybe that’s where we differ. I’ll move to the next (or maybe the one 3 after, but it’s still worth it).
Now, if you are saying something strange (maybe I misunderstood) but that you are only interested in old games and not new games, that the entire cost of Essential and extra is wasted, then of course it’s not worth getting Premium at all. But the absolute key thing to specify here is that, in this case, you are not judging Premium in the slightest . You are judging Essential and Extra.
In this judgment I may agree. But depends on the person and how much time they have to play of course.
@TheIronChimp
I agree in principle, but in this case we are talking £1.66 a month for 1/2 games. That cannot be not worth it unless you don’t like any of these games for several months, at which point yes, better to buy the 1 in 8 or whatever that you like and keep it forever, absolutely.
To me, however, that is not judging the value of the service, it is simply saying your taste is quite specific. Which is totally fair, but not a judgment of the value of the service objectively speaking.
This month for example: do you think Legacy of Kain Defiance is not worth ÂŁ1.66? Or does the game simply not appeal to you personally?
@TheIronChimp
For ÂŁ20 a year, I would say 1 to 2 games a month is perfectly generous.
Admittedly I would get it anyway just for the streaming to Portal, so anything extra feels like more of a bonus to me, but have you really stopped to think about how much you are actually paying every month? It’s £1.66. Are the games you get every month from Premium not worth £1.66 to you?
Hopefully they fixed bugged trophy challenges. Even then though, you practically have to play with a guide to 100% the game, which really puts me off getting it.
What does make me much more likely to get this is the apparent lack of game killing enemy scaling though.
I honestly feel multiplayer hang out games should be considered their own industry. The motivation for playing them, and means of gaining enjoyment, are completely different.
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Re: PS Plus Looks Better Than Ever After New Xbox Game Pass Price Rises
@PCMasterRace
🤷‍♂️ mines perfect. Maybe if I experienced better than perfect I’d agree, but I’ve not tried GeForce Now
Re: PS Plus Looks Better Than Ever After New Xbox Game Pass Price Rises
@PCMasterRace Streamed for 10 days at a hotel this month on the Portal, so I respectfully disagree. It was pretty much flawless
Re: PS Plus Looks Better Than Ever After New Xbox Game Pass Price Rises
@get2sammyb
Well, extra is the same price as the Xbox premium if you pay per month. But you get first party games from MS after a year and some streaming…personally I think PS Premium is best, but best is still not that great.
Re: PS Plus Looks Better Than Ever After New Xbox Game Pass Price Rises
I get premium for about £100 a year I think, maybe a bit less. And I do so mainly because it’s like £20 more than the Extra tier and lets me stream to my Portal. If it went up to this I’d probably stop subscribing altogether.
Re: Bethesda Finally Announces Oblivion Remastered Physical Edition Is Real
Man, what a disappointment this remaster was. Thought they might finally fix it but they barely addressed the glaring problems of the original, plus added technical issues.
Re: New PS5 Slim Is Cheaper in Every Way Except the Retail Price, New Teardown Video Reveals
I guess it’ll allow them to do temporary Christmas sales and such
Re: Square Enix Ain't Going to Revisit Parasite Eve on PS5, But This Chinese Dev Sure as Hell Is
Actually never played Parasite Eve, but this one looks like a game I’d like. Especially the combat system and art design.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for October 2025?
Personally no. Not really my genres. I did plat the first goat simulator but didn’t really feel the need for more once finished.
Re: Publisher EA Poised to Go Private as 'Advanced Talks' of $50 Billion Buyout Emerge
@MrPeanutbutterz
The thing people are usually concerned about in these situations is that non western cultural ideals will change the product; ironically, here, I think it could make things better.
Re: Publisher EA Poised to Go Private as 'Advanced Talks' of $50 Billion Buyout Emerge
I wouldn’t expect Saudi to finalise a sale. Gambling and lottery is illegal there and against their culture, if they remain consistent that will gut the profitability of EAs biggest franchises (for the better in my opinion, but hey).
Re: Preview: We Played Anime Open World Ananta, and It Could Change Everything
I generally dislike games that are never finished / completeable, and definitely will not play a game if it removes content to encourage FOMO. And generally won’t play a game that is deliberately trying to be trendy for young people (I’m 42)…yet you have me intrigued.
I’d also be concerned if it is a heavily online game. I mean if it plans to make money from selling cosmetics can I presume it will be social in the open world element?
I’ll have to learn more about how the story unfolds, but it sounds like it draws heavily from the yakuza games, which is my favourite series of all time.
I just watched the gameplay vid and, my god it’s gorgeous, and I very much love the character models.if it manages to be a single player game without all the usual free game failings then great, but I’d be a lot happier just to hear it was a totally offline paid for product.
Re: Run an Okinawa Orphanage for Hours and Hours in Yakuza Kiwami 3 & Dark Ties for PS5, PS4
Must admit, kind of annoyed they are adding to what’s, for me, a complete and finished story in a couple of yakuza games now. Do I want to commit anything up to 200hrs to play through again to experience those additions? Not really. But now I feel like I don’t have the full experience. Can’t they just keep making additional games that don’t add in to what people have experienced already?
I do wonder whether they “fixed” the minigames that became harder in the switch to 60fps. Getting the plat on 3 was a little frustrating because of it if I remember correctly.
Edit: I’ll probably play through them all again from 0 lol. Best series ever. Maybe they won’t be as block heavy in the 3 remake.
Re: New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Confirmed, The Last of Us 2 on Friday
Never played last of us part 2…the first had an ok story but I’m not a stealth fan. Guess I’ll finish the story with this.
Re: More Free Updates for PS5 Fan Favourite Stellar Blade Planned
Best game of the generation for me. Everything is totally on point.
Re: 'We Can Now Load Millions of Assets': Ghost of Yotei Dev Explains Technical Leap on PS5
In VR this would be beautiful. On a flat screen several metres from me I can’t see that stuff too well.
Re: Is This the First Tease of Next-Gen PS6 Graphics?
Nothing the ps5 can’t already do.
Re: New PlayStation Rewards Program to Offer Exclusive Merch, Starts Today
I like something for getting trophies, but won’t be buying tat. I’m willing to pay postage and packing for my platinum reward, if it’s good in itself, but this money is crazy (Get me an Astro bot figure or something and i might consider it). I wouldn’t really call the chance to purchase something a reward though.
Re: No Nudity and Less Gore in Censored Japanese Version of Dying Light: The Beast
Makes more sense than censoring Japanese boob jiggle and such, but equally bad obviously. Censorship is just bad period.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 599
Had to choose between games I can directly stream as I’m away from home for 10 days. Playing Unicorn Overlord on the Portal and loving it so far.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (PS5) - PS5's Best Kart Racer Is Robust, Chaotic Fun
Make or break for me is how much rubber banding there is (hopefully none). Included in this, biasing towards certain weapons and such depending on what place someone is in.
Re: Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Tipped to Take Off on PS5 This November
If it has PSVR2 support I may never leave.
Re: 'Sony Seeks an Impermissible Monopoly on Genre Conventions': Tencent Fires Back Over Horizon Rip-Off
While this has to be watched (Nintendo and Pokémon come to mind), I don’t think this is a case of trying to monopolise conventions. It’s a blatant clone that could fool unaware consumers and designed to profit from the artistic endeavours of others.
Re: Another 4 PS Plus Extra Games Leave the Service Next Month
Another great PSVR2 game gone
Re: Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter (PS5) - This Is How You Remake a Classic RPG
If any are more familiar with the originals could you let me know how many liberties the localisation people took? I know of several unfortunate insertions and adaptations that change characterisation somewhat, so that doesn’t give me a good impression. If it’s too much I might get around to playing the originals. I liked Cold Steel 1&2 so I figure I’d like these too.
Re: Creepy Viral Hit POOLS Takes the Plunge on PS5 in November, Playable Demo Out Now
Yeah, great, but I’m getting a bit bored of everything in VR being horror now. Yes it’s the best place for horror games by far, but it’s also the best place for pretty much any other type of game too. A bit of variety please.
Re: PS5's New Power Saver Feature Confirms Its First Supported Games
Sorry, but streaming games, portable play, and high end graphical showcases, just do not mix. I have no interest playing a cinematic game on a small screen on the tube, and I couldn’t anyway as I’d have no or poor connection for streaming.
I love my portal for turn based / slow, Indy and narrative based games, (I’ll be getting a lot of play on it as I’m starting a 10 day trade shown this week) but I’m not going to play big games on it, I’ll save that for when I’m home.
Edit: I only consider it worth discussing this in terms of what it can do for that presumed handheld. Literally no reason to use it otherwise. And I’m not going to suppose native play yet - even with slight performance reductions you won’t get PS6 like performance in handheld form
Re: Nerfed PS5 Console Silently Releases with Less Storage Space
Penny pinching in the extreme. Still, I’ve never had a problem with this much storage space. Probably would have done as a kid when I shared with 2 siblings though.
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Remake Adds 'Cheats' on Switch 2, Xbox, But No Mention of PS5
This will make the platinum trophy trivially pointless. A bad thing for me.
Re: GOTY Frontrunner Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Just Keeps Selling, Cracks 4.4 Million Copies
Must admit, with it releasing on Gamepass I’m thinking it might hit Plus at some point and that pushes it down my list a bit. I’ve still got to finish Elden Ring and Kingdom Come 1&2 yet…
Re: GOTY Frontrunner Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Just Keeps Selling, Cracks 4.4 Million Copies
@KillerBoy
They’ve already confirmed new releases based in the same world due to the success of this one.
Re: As Sony Doubles Down on Anime, Demon Slayer Breaks Box Office Records
Those type of cinema numbers, for a format that doesn’t take anywhere near as much to make as a Hollywood movie, is very impressive. Compared to joe much most videogames make too, it’s obvious why Sony are pushing this.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2025?
I pick the option of not being interested in the games but, no, I don’t consider them crap.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 598
Still slowly working through Elden ring. Just beat Morgott. Great game.
Re: Dragon Quest 7 Returns in Reimagined Form, Out for PS5 in February 2026
@Drago201
That’s how long my Yakuza playthroughs take to 100%. If the game is good give me more.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Gets Yet Another Surprise Patch on PS5
@LikelySatan
No, that’s why they were separated in that sentence. A development studio is not only more than the devs, but the devs are very rarely in control of the company. I think you are deliberately misunderstanding, so I’m out of this “conversation”.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Gets Yet Another Surprise Patch on PS5
@LikelySatan
Well, it was not mentioned In the patch notes for the guilty patch, so you decide on whether the company wanted the devs to be open about it. I wasn’t there so can only infer like you. But I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. I think you might be one of those pedants who argue only governments can censor, or one who likes to hide censorship behind the “the devs just changed their minds” cop out, but apologies if I’m wrong.
Re: Dragon Quest 7 Returns in Reimagined Form, Out for PS5 in February 2026
I don’t like the idea of a “streamlined” narrative. Give me the full story. All the games. Tell me which order to buy them in and I will.
I get the feeling I may be missing something however. By streamlined they may mean sped up, according to some things I’ve read elsewhere. Anyone know if anything is missing?
Re: Last Chance to Play These 8 PS5, PS4 Games on PS Plus
Really don’t see the point of removing PSVR2 games. If anything they should ensure they stay on and advertise the hell out of the immediate catalogue of games available to anyone getting the headset. Plus the games are cheap anyway, surely can’t cost Sony that much to keep on.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Gets Yet Another Surprise Patch on PS5
@LikelySatan
They clearly did. Our definitions of “authority” may differ, but it’s clearly what happened.
I’m not sure what you are considering as conspiratorial. If it’s that devs, or other members of a company, are told not to comment on censorship then that’s a fact with many confirmed examples. As well as just being a logical requirement of a company censoring their own products.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Gets Yet Another Surprise Patch on PS5
@LikelySatan
Who knows? Societal trends and the PR department most likely.
Or maybe they decided to put loads of work into a game for years, advertised heavily before and at release that it would not be censored due to the narrative and feel of the world being what they intended, and then just…changed their minds.
Doubt it though.
The simple truth is that devs are not allowed to comment on such things.
Re: Borderlands 4 Shift Codes to Redeem Now (September 2025)
“ Create an account on the Shift website and link your profile to the platform you play the game on”
Seriously, bugger off with this sh*t!
I don’t even care about giving my data away, it’s just bloody tedious, and in this case impacts the design of the game.
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2025 Announced
@TheIronChimp
Sure. If you buy everything you want before it can come to a service that service isn’t going to be worth anything so why don’t you just buy the retro games when released too, they are much cheaper. I don’t get why you would get Premium for some retro games yet buy everything else. Didn’t mean for that to sound critical, sure you have a reason, I’m just bemused.
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2025 Announced
@TheIronChimp
But the price of premium is £1.66. And sure you have to keep it to keep playing the game, but these small games are finished in a month or two; once finished I won’t play thrm again. Maybe that’s where we differ. I’ll move to the next (or maybe the one 3 after, but it’s still worth it).
Now, if you are saying something strange (maybe I misunderstood) but that you are only interested in old games and not new games, that the entire cost of Essential and extra is wasted, then of course it’s not worth getting Premium at all. But the absolute key thing to specify here is that, in this case, you are not judging Premium in the slightest . You are judging Essential and Extra.
In this judgment I may agree. But depends on the person and how much time they have to play of course.
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2025 Announced
@TheIronChimp
I agree in principle, but in this case we are talking £1.66 a month for 1/2 games. That cannot be not worth it unless you don’t like any of these games for several months, at which point yes, better to buy the 1 in 8 or whatever that you like and keep it forever, absolutely.
To me, however, that is not judging the value of the service, it is simply saying your taste is quite specific. Which is totally fair, but not a judgment of the value of the service objectively speaking.
This month for example: do you think Legacy of Kain Defiance is not worth ÂŁ1.66? Or does the game simply not appeal to you personally?
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Gets Yet Another Surprise Patch on PS5
Did it remove the post launch censorship?
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2025 Announced
@TheIronChimp
For ÂŁ20 a year, I would say 1 to 2 games a month is perfectly generous.
Admittedly I would get it anyway just for the streaming to Portal, so anything extra feels like more of a bonus to me, but have you really stopped to think about how much you are actually paying every month? It’s £1.66. Are the games you get every month from Premium not worth £1.66 to you?
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for September 2025 Announced
Nothing for me. Nice a PSVR2 game has been added again, but not my genre. Can’t win them all.
Re: Overlooked Elder Scrolls-Like RPG Tainted Grail Just Got a Gigantic Update on PS5
Hopefully they fixed bugged trophy challenges. Even then though, you practically have to play with a guide to 100% the game, which really puts me off getting it.
What does make me much more likely to get this is the apparent lack of game killing enemy scaling though.
Re: 'The Game Looks Fantastic': Insider Shares Wolverine PS5 Tidbit Ahead of Rumoured Re-Reveal
In my head it’s Spider-Man, but a bit grittier, with worse traversal and, perhaps, better combat. Please prove me wrong.
Re: USA's Top 20 PlayStation Games of All Time May Surprise You
I honestly feel multiplayer hang out games should be considered their own industry. The motivation for playing them, and means of gaining enjoyment, are completely different.