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Had to choose between games I can directly stream as I’m away from home for 10 days. Playing Unicorn Overlord on the Portal and loving it so far.

Make or break for me is how much rubber banding there is (hopefully none). Included in this, biasing towards certain weapons and such depending on what place someone is in.

If it has PSVR2 support I may never leave.

While this has to be watched (Nintendo and Pokémon come to mind), I don’t think this is a case of trying to monopolise conventions. It’s a blatant clone that could fool unaware consumers and designed to profit from the artistic endeavours of others.

Another great PSVR2 game gone

If any are more familiar with the originals could you let me know how many liberties the localisation people took? I know of several unfortunate insertions and adaptations that change characterisation somewhat, so that doesn’t give me a good impression. If it’s too much I might get around to playing the originals. I liked Cold Steel 1&2 so I figure I’d like these too.

Yeah, great, but I’m getting a bit bored of everything in VR being horror now. Yes it’s the best place for horror games by far, but it’s also the best place for pretty much any other type of game too. A bit of variety please.

Sorry, but streaming games, portable play, and high end graphical showcases, just do not mix. I have no interest playing a cinematic game on a small screen on the tube, and I couldn’t anyway as I’d have no or poor connection for streaming.

I love my portal for turn based / slow, Indy and narrative based games, (I’ll be getting a lot of play on it as I’m starting a 10 day trade shown this week) but I’m not going to play big games on it, I’ll save that for when I’m home.

Edit: I only consider it worth discussing this in terms of what it can do for that presumed handheld. Literally no reason to use it otherwise. And I’m not going to suppose native play yet - even with slight performance reductions you won’t get PS6 like performance in handheld form

Penny pinching in the extreme. Still, I’ve never had a problem with this much storage space. Probably would have done as a kid when I shared with 2 siblings though.

This will make the platinum trophy trivially pointless. A bad thing for me.

Must admit, with it releasing on Gamepass I’m thinking it might hit Plus at some point and that pushes it down my list a bit. I’ve still got to finish Elden Ring and Kingdom Come 1&2 yet…

@KillerBoy
They’ve already confirmed new releases based in the same world due to the success of this one.

Those type of cinema numbers, for a format that doesn’t take anywhere near as much to make as a Hollywood movie, is very impressive. Compared to joe much most videogames make too, it’s obvious why Sony are pushing this.

I pick the option of not being interested in the games but, no, I don’t consider them crap.

Still slowly working through Elden ring. Just beat Morgott. Great game.

@Drago201
That’s how long my Yakuza playthroughs take to 100%. If the game is good give me more.

@LikelySatan
No, that’s why they were separated in that sentence. A development studio is not only more than the devs, but the devs are very rarely in control of the company. I think you are deliberately misunderstanding, so I’m out of this “conversation”.

@LikelySatan
Well, it was not mentioned In the patch notes for the guilty patch, so you decide on whether the company wanted the devs to be open about it. I wasn’t there so can only infer like you. But I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. I think you might be one of those pedants who argue only governments can censor, or one who likes to hide censorship behind the “the devs just changed their minds” cop out, but apologies if I’m wrong.

I don’t like the idea of a “streamlined” narrative. Give me the full story. All the games. Tell me which order to buy them in and I will.

I get the feeling I may be missing something however. By streamlined they may mean sped up, according to some things I’ve read elsewhere. Anyone know if anything is missing?

Really don’t see the point of removing PSVR2 games. If anything they should ensure they stay on and advertise the hell out of the immediate catalogue of games available to anyone getting the headset. Plus the games are cheap anyway, surely can’t cost Sony that much to keep on.

@LikelySatan
They clearly did. Our definitions of “authority” may differ, but it’s clearly what happened.

I’m not sure what you are considering as conspiratorial. If it’s that devs, or other members of a company, are told not to comment on censorship then that’s a fact with many confirmed examples. As well as just being a logical requirement of a company censoring their own products.

@LikelySatan
Who knows? Societal trends and the PR department most likely.

Or maybe they decided to put loads of work into a game for years, advertised heavily before and at release that it would not be censored due to the narrative and feel of the world being what they intended, and then just…changed their minds.

Doubt it though.

The simple truth is that devs are not allowed to comment on such things.

“ Create an account on the Shift website and link your profile to the platform you play the game on”

Seriously, bugger off with this sh*t!

I don’t even care about giving my data away, it’s just bloody tedious, and in this case impacts the design of the game.

@TheIronChimp
Sure. If you buy everything you want before it can come to a service that service isn’t going to be worth anything so why don’t you just buy the retro games when released too, they are much cheaper. I don’t get why you would get Premium for some retro games yet buy everything else. Didn’t mean for that to sound critical, sure you have a reason, I’m just bemused.

@TheIronChimp
But the price of premium is £1.66. And sure you have to keep it to keep playing the game, but these small games are finished in a month or two; once finished I won’t play thrm again. Maybe that’s where we differ. I’ll move to the next (or maybe the one 3 after, but it’s still worth it).

Now, if you are saying something strange (maybe I misunderstood) but that you are only interested in old games and not new games, that the entire cost of Essential and extra is wasted, then of course it’s not worth getting Premium at all. But the absolute key thing to specify here is that, in this case, you are not judging Premium in the slightest . You are judging Essential and Extra.

In this judgment I may agree. But depends on the person and how much time they have to play of course.

@TheIronChimp
I agree in principle, but in this case we are talking £1.66 a month for 1/2 games. That cannot be not worth it unless you don’t like any of these games for several months, at which point yes, better to buy the 1 in 8 or whatever that you like and keep it forever, absolutely.

To me, however, that is not judging the value of the service, it is simply saying your taste is quite specific. Which is totally fair, but not a judgment of the value of the service objectively speaking.

This month for example: do you think Legacy of Kain Defiance is not worth £1.66? Or does the game simply not appeal to you personally?

Did it remove the post launch censorship?

@TheIronChimp
For £20 a year, I would say 1 to 2 games a month is perfectly generous.
Admittedly I would get it anyway just for the streaming to Portal, so anything extra feels like more of a bonus to me, but have you really stopped to think about how much you are actually paying every month? It’s £1.66. Are the games you get every month from Premium not worth £1.66 to you?

Nothing for me. Nice a PSVR2 game has been added again, but not my genre. Can’t win them all.

Hopefully they fixed bugged trophy challenges. Even then though, you practically have to play with a guide to 100% the game, which really puts me off getting it.

What does make me much more likely to get this is the apparent lack of game killing enemy scaling though.

In my head it’s Spider-Man, but a bit grittier, with worse traversal and, perhaps, better combat. Please prove me wrong.

I honestly feel multiplayer hang out games should be considered their own industry. The motivation for playing them, and means of gaining enjoyment, are completely different.

Depending on the jump I might actually wait for a pro model. Still feel there is so much power left in the PS5 that there won’t be any serious next gen only games for quite some time.

I’m not sure where the controversy is. It’s always been logical to me that, when the subscription becomes the product rather than the individual games, the individual games are going to be devalued exactly as is being said by both people in this article. Is anyone really disagreeing with something so obvious?

I have a question about saves. What can put me off some difficult games, especially those involving tedious trial and error bosses / memorising boss attack patterns, is if there are scant save points and none immediately before boss encounters (mainly thinking souls games). If the game makes me repeatedly redo progress then I’m out. I’m playing elden ring at the moment, and the bosses are fun, but only because there are generally save points right before. I’ve fallen away from “hard” games in the past due to having to redo progress.
I never played the original.

Everything on netflix finishes after 2 seasons. It’s why I dislike a lot of modern TV shows. Just not enough time to get invested, or have proper character arcs.

@BecauseBecause
Stargate Atlantis was long ago and I didn’t finish the series. Really disappointing after SG1; Game of Thrones I did finish, but I’m awful with names and the pictures aren’t exactly great, lol. The rest have zero interest in, but thanks for the info.

@get2sammyb
Nope, don’t recognise those names (though I usually don’t remember names), nor the pictures. In all honesty, there are even 3 Street Fighter characters I don’t know. I haven’t played since Street Fighter Alpha 3 on PS(1?) and my memory is very hazy from that time.

@DennisReynolds
We’ve been set up like this for over a year now, the wife and I being able to play each others games on either machine. I didn’t have to change anything, I think it working again after turning it if was just a coincidence and it was just a PSN connection glitch.

I only know 50 Cent out of all those. Guess they aren’t exactly going for A listers.

It wouldn’t let me verify a license to play elden ring today. Then it said PSN was busy… turned it off and on again and it worked 🤷‍♂️

Peeped a few flashes of brilliance, but we’ll see how it holds up generally. All comes down to how repetitive games like this become.

Storage really isn’t an issue for me as i only play a normal number of games at a time and have nobody else sharing the PS5 (the wife has her own); nevertheless, I do think Sony should just take less profit per unit. But I guess there are investors they need to keep happy if they are going to keep investing.

@Northern_munkey
I’ve payed it a lot. Have the plat and 94% trophy completion (don’t really know how to judge progress other than that).

I didn’t say I didn’t appreciate it, but for what it is, something to do when you want a low effort activity. I wouldn’t spend much on it is all.

I barely remember the experience apart from some cheap dopamine hits when I finished a low skill activity that unlocked incremental progress

Not exactly great variety though is there?

Sure, but I won’t pay much for these games. They are dip in and out low effort titles; basically the gaming equivalent of background music.

There really should be an option of “great games, but I have them”. - giving only the options of “are you happy personally” or “are they objectively crap”, Just doesn’t cover it.

I would be happy with Stardew valley if I didn’t buy and play it a long time ago. That’s the problem when games have been on sale cheap many times in the past before entering Plus.

I’d be much more interested in Viewfinder if it was in VR, as it clearly could and should be.

@Zuljaras
It wouldn’t beat Resi in VR for me. It’s just not quite as much of a complete game.

@Onearmbandit
I would encourage you to give VR its chance. You are correct that it’s just so immersive, but also that people can feel a bit off for a bit if they overdo it (and have their friends unexpectedly boost them around a game! Lol). After a week of play you’ll have a whole new world opened to you and it’ll always form part of your gaming experience from then on.