Nothing of interest for me that I’ve managed to find yet. Maybe Cyberpunk for £20. All the discounts on my wishlist are just the same price they always drop to (in between periods of being way more than they often are of course). Disappointed.
I always renew mine during Black Friday sales and, luckily, I’ve never had a problem getting the discount even when buying a few days before my sub runs out. I wonder if it’s the same for people here or it’s as harsh as the wording indicates.
@Matroska Perhaps, if it’s meant to be a surprise, you could use a spoiler and just say otherwise that you are meant to play 3 last? This would have been cool for me to experience too.
@Crimson_Ridley It was descriptive rather than an attempt at a new naming standard. Within the context of the quote I gave about objectives and tasks. But it’s fine, I’ve had more than enough time to look up a list and glean an impression from that. Just thought I’d ask someone with actual experience of them.
@ShogunRok
I think you might be being deliberately obtuse now, lol. Have you never heard of trophy challenges? Some few ping every now and again even if you ignore them.
@ShogunRok “ but you could be spending double, triple, even quadruple that amount of time just chasing your own objectives.”
I’m not one for making my own objectives, but luckily their is the trophy challenge system where devs can set their own without it impacting the narrative or pacing of the game as intended or which people can go for once the standard narrative is finished. Any impression of how good these are? Not sure if you guys would know if you have an early code or something.
@VaultGuy415
I’m not saying the game is too hard. To be honest I have no time to explain asim in work. There’s been two decades of articles about it so the information is there, it’s a known thing that should have been fixed for immersion and making character levelling significant.
I’m somewhat sad that such a low effort and ill thought out remaster is so popular. Good for those who enjoy though I guess, but could have been infinitely better with a couple of easy tweaks.
What they learned is that people will just take their standard points for existing activities, get free PSN credit, and never engage with their crappy digital collectibles or buy games at a massively overinflated price with their points. That’s why they are dropping it, it didn’t make them money.
I’m a bit sad as I’ll be losing about £20 a year, but oh well.
@AdamNovice I don’t assume it’s gameplay is trash, I assume it’s designed to keep me “engaged” in its world through drip feeding content and, often, trying to get me to play with randoms online. Therefore I understand it is not for me at all, as I prefer to experience a wider number of games alone.
That said, most are reskins because they are appealing to the same market in an attempt to get the same spend as those that are very successful.
@themightyant I think “engagement” has been pretty well codified this last decade to mean hours inhabiting a game, but let’s hope you are correct and it might just mean releasing many good games.
1) is Extra worth £100 a year max? (£8.33 a month)
I think yes (and you can get it cheaper on sale), but that’s for you to decide.
2) is Premium worth an extra £20 a year
Yes - considering the games alone, if you then add streaming, especially if you have a portal, obviously. £20 is nothing, count the games that have become available just this half of the year. That it is worth £20 is without question
Either people are judging Extra rather than Premium in this poll, or people sure do expect a lot for £20 these days!
So Sony don’t have to fund any of their next game, but will likely still get the vast majority of the sales due to their dominant market position. They take no risk on the game being a failure… Don’t see why it would “be a kicker” for Sony.
As someone who has psvr2 and a portal it’s certainly worth the extra £25. Looking at just those game given this year as stated by you…well, they are still worth £25 in fairness, and the year hasn’t even finished yet.
I don’t understand. Why does it need to be supported? Aren’t these just fighting games? I guess they might be turning off the servers for online multiplayer, but aren’t the single player and local Vs matches not still playable?
Admittedly I haven’t played a MK game since 3 on the PS1, but have they changed so much they are some kind of live service only online thing now?
Great, I can only think either devs are starting to understand that people do actually want new challenges added to their games, or Sony are pushing them to do it.
I love almost everything about this (could do without stealth, but it looked very basic rather than in depth (tedious)). Especially love the art style. But is this going to be free to play live service?
Edit: never mind, someone else already asked that. I don’t have anything against them as long as there are no time gated things and the trophies keep up with new content. Unfortunately that’s never the case.
I’ll buy this before a digital copy. At least I can sell after I’ve finished. Infinitely better than a game only releasing digitally, so I’m not sure why this is being criticised so much but digital only games get a pass. All the same preservation downsides, but none of the upsides of a physical key.
Morrowind is the answer to both those questions. Before they broke their games with disastrous enemy scaling. Still have great memories of teleporting into areas that were pure death traps for my character level, just to sneak around stealing untold riches before dragging myself back.
@RamboMike
Oblivion is significantly poorer in PS5 than XB. And indeed hasn’t even had the latest patch. And the games are not really Pro optimised. I’m not criticising. Just saying it’s to be expected.
@themightyant It doesn’t. I’m just judging levels of badness. With MS choosing not to release some games physically at all! For me, I buy physically because I don’t see the point of spending up to 10 times more buying digitally (than I would if buying second hand physically and selling again when finished). As such, it doesn’t bother me too much that you need a download after purchase as long as I have that key to sell.
I know people will be bothered by this, perhaps for preservation reasons, or those who don’t have internet, but I’d prefer this to not having physical at all. At least you still have a key to the game that you can lend out and sell when you are finished with the game.
@cburg How am I angry? lol. I’m simply saying the value isn’t there yet, but I’ll get it when the price drops. That’s a perfectly reasonable position given the age of the game and the mass of games available currently allowing me to wait.
There should certainly be something that holds MS to anything they said irrespective of what they consider to be market changes. For example, if MS make all their new games 1 year exclusive when their next console comes out. Other than that though, I don’t thing the buyout has proven negative so no action needed so far.
@Vaako007 The cost of making an old port is not the same as a new game, so yes it’s overpriced. Especially as they don’t have a physical copy (I don’t have to tell you why buying an Xbox too would also make it too expensive).
@Slideaway1983
lol, it’s not about patience or willpower, I’m part way through at least 6 games and still have to get CO, KCD2 and Pirate Yakuza before this (all of which I’ll get as they drop in price while I’m playing a currently owned game). It just makes no sense for me to get an (overpriced) game I won’t get to until after it’s had a price drop. Sometimes I get games early just to support the dev if they are reasonably priced at launch and really good (mainly PSVR2 games), otherwise I wait. Especially if the publisher doesn’t have the good manners to release physically.
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Re: Days of Play 2025 - All the Best PS5, PS5 Pro, PS Plus, PS5 Game Deals
That huge discount on PSVR2 makes it a must have (I mean it already is, but at this price it’s a no brainer).
Re: PS Store Days of Play Sale Is Live Now with 1,300+ PS5, PS4 Game Discounts
Nothing of interest for me that I’ve managed to find yet. Maybe Cyberpunk for £20. All the discounts on my wishlist are just the same price they always drop to (in between periods of being way more than they often are of course).
Disappointed.
Re: PS Plus Subscription Sale Takes 33% Off, But There's a Big Catch
I always renew mine during Black Friday sales and, luckily, I’ve never had a problem getting the discount even when buying a few days before my sub runs out. I wonder if it’s the same for people here or it’s as harsh as the wording indicates.
Re: Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time (PS5) - Level-5 Returns with Its Most Addictive RPG Yet
@ShogunRok
Thanks!
Re: Dragon Quest 1 & 2 HD-2D Remake Compiles Two RPG Classics on PS5 from 30th October
@Matroska
Perhaps, if it’s meant to be a surprise, you could use a spoiler and just say otherwise that you are meant to play 3 last? This would have been cool for me to experience too.
Re: Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time (PS5) - Level-5 Returns with Its Most Addictive RPG Yet
@Crimson_Ridley
It was descriptive rather than an attempt at a new naming standard. Within the context of the quote I gave about objectives and tasks. But it’s fine, I’ve had more than enough time to look up a list and glean an impression from that. Just thought I’d ask someone with actual experience of them.
Re: Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time (PS5) - Level-5 Returns with Its Most Addictive RPG Yet
@ShogunRok
I think you might be being deliberately obtuse now, lol. Have you never heard of trophy challenges? Some few ping every now and again even if you ignore them.
Re: Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time (PS5) - Level-5 Returns with Its Most Addictive RPG Yet
@ShogunRok
No, I mean the developer given challenges. The ones you get “trophies” for.
Re: Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time (PS5) - Level-5 Returns with Its Most Addictive RPG Yet
@ShogunRok
“ but you could be spending double, triple, even quadruple that amount of time just chasing your own objectives.”
I’m not one for making my own objectives, but luckily their is the trophy challenge system where devs can set their own without it impacting the
narrative or pacing of the game as intended or which people can go for once the standard narrative is finished. Any impression of how good these are? Not sure if you guys would know if you have an early code or something.
Re: Poll: Do You Care About the Death of PlayStation Stars?
Well, it loses me about £45-60 a year maybe. So sure. About half my premium subscription.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Updates Still Nowhere to Be Seen a Month After Release
@VaultGuy415
I’m not saying the game is too hard. To be honest I have no time to explain asim in work. There’s been two decades of articles about it so the information is there, it’s a known thing that should have been fixed for immersion and making character levelling significant.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Updates Still Nowhere to Be Seen a Month After Release
@VaultGuy415
Enemy level scaling is absolutely a massive problem mid to end game.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Updates Still Nowhere to Be Seen a Month After Release
Please just update / remove the enemy scaling. So much feedback on this and they’ve done nothing to resolve it.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Sales Prove the Power of Nostalgia and Shadow Drops
I’m somewhat sad that such a low effort and ill thought out remaster is so popular. Good for those who enjoy though I guess, but could have been infinitely better with a couple of easy tweaks.
Re: PlayStation Stars Rewards Program Shutting Down, Sony Confirms
What they learned is that people will just take their standard points for existing activities, get free PSN credit, and never engage with their crappy digital collectibles or buy games at a massively overinflated price with their points. That’s why they are dropping it, it didn’t make them money.
I’m a bit sad as I’ll be losing about £20 a year, but oh well.
Re: Another 6 PS Plus Extra Games Leave the Service in June
Don’t sleep on rogue legacy 2.
Re: Stellar Blade Sequel Announced, Out by 2027
Fantastic. Playing it through at the minute and it’s some of the most fun I’ve had this gen outside of VR. Phenomenal in every way.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for May 2025?
Two games I like. A PSVR2 game and a life simulator. Can’t be unhappy with that. But with the all the great games leavings it’s a net bad month.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 581
Stella blade and Ishin
Re: Like It or Loathe It, This Is Why Sony Won't Stop Trying to Make Live Service Games for PS5
@AdamNovice
I don’t assume it’s gameplay is trash, I assume it’s designed to keep me “engaged” in its world through drip feeding content and, often, trying to get me to play with randoms online. Therefore I understand it is not for me at all, as I prefer to experience a wider number of games alone.
That said, most are reskins because they are appealing to the same market in an attempt to get the same spend as those that are very successful.
Re: Sony to Focus on PS5 Engagement, First-Party Showing Greater Financial Discipline
@themightyant
I think “engagement” has been pretty well codified this last decade to mean hours inhabiting a game, but let’s hope you are correct and it might just mean releasing many good games.
Re: Sony to Focus on PS5 Engagement, First-Party Showing Greater Financial Discipline
This all sounds terrible. Engage me with more great games. That’s all. Don’t release games designed to keep us trapped.
Re: Bungie Conducting 'Thorough Review' After Plagiarised Art Is Found in Marathon
So, will they pay up or change the design. I guess both would be fair responses, but personally I hope they pay this artist.
Re: Just 4% of PS5, PS4 Fans Think PS Plus Premium Represents Good Value for Money
1) is Extra worth £100 a year max? (£8.33 a month)
I think yes (and you can get it cheaper on sale), but that’s for you to decide.
2) is Premium worth an extra £20 a year
Yes - considering the games alone, if you then add streaming, especially if you have a portal, obviously. £20 is nothing, count the games that have become available just this half of the year. That it is worth £20 is without question
Either people are judging Extra rather than Premium in this poll, or people sure do expect a lot for £20 these days!
Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Breaks Away from PlayStation, Next Game Will Be Self-Funded
So Sony don’t have to fund any of their next game, but will likely still get the vast majority of the sales due to their dominant market position. They take no risk on the game being a failure…
Don’t see why it would “be a kicker” for Sony.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Stunned at Dramatic Decline in Quality
As someone who has psvr2 and a portal it’s certainly worth the extra £25. Looking at just those game given this year as stated by you…well, they are still worth £25 in fairness, and the year hasn’t even finished yet.
Re: Capcom Fighting Collection 2 (PS4) - Deep Cuts and Cool Crossovers Make a Strong Combo
@PuppetMaster
As a retro collection, surely online play is not needed? Certainly wasn’t included originally.
Re: Mortal Kombat Fans Are Fuming MK1's Support Appears to Be Over
I don’t understand. Why does it need to be supported? Aren’t these just fighting games? I guess they might be turning off the servers for online multiplayer, but aren’t the single player and local Vs matches not still playable?
Admittedly I haven’t played a MK game since 3 on the PS1, but have they changed so much they are some kind of live service only online thing now?
Re: 10 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for May 2025 Announced
A PSVR2 game and story of seasons.
Nice
Re: First Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 DLC Out This Thursday on PS5
Great. As soon as it’s finished I’ll get it!
Re: Another PS Plus Premium Classic Game Adds Trophies on PS5, PS4
Great, I can only think either devs are starting to understand that people do actually want new challenges added to their games, or Sony are pushing them to do it.
Now please add them for Ridge Racer Type 4!
Re: Uh Oh! Victorian-Style Anime RPG Silver Palace Could Be Your Next PS5 Obsession
I love almost everything about this (could do without stealth, but it looked very basic rather than in depth (tedious)). Especially love the art style. But is this going to be free to play live service?
Edit: never mind, someone else already asked that. I don’t have anything against them as long as there are no time gated things and the trophies keep up with new content. Unfortunately that’s never the case.
Re: Reaction: Game Key PS5 Discs Are a Disgrace, and Sony Should Put a Stop to Them
I’ll buy this before a digital copy. At least I can sell after I’ve finished. Infinitely better than a game only releasing digitally, so I’m not sure why this is being criticised so much but digital only games get a pass. All the same preservation downsides, but none of the upsides of a physical key.
Re: PS Plus Premium Sub Is the Highlight of New PS5 Console Bundle
@Jey887
For those of us with PSVR2 and a Portal, it hasn’t been pointless at all.
Re: PS Plus Premium Sub Is the Highlight of New PS5 Console Bundle
For those who don’t know it’s much cheaper every year on sale and this would represent a loss
Re: Poll: Which Bethesda RPG Needs an Oblivion-Style Remaster Next?
Morrowind is the answer to both those questions. Before they broke their games with disastrous enemy scaling. Still have great memories of teleporting into areas that were pure death traps for my character level, just to sneak around stealing untold riches before dragging myself back.
Re: Poor Showing for DOOM: The Dark Ages on PS5 Pro
@RamboMike
Oblivion is significantly poorer in PS5 than XB. And indeed hasn’t even had the latest patch. And the games are not really Pro optimised. I’m not criticising. Just saying it’s to be expected.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 580
Just got to Stella Blade. Enjoying it so far but Clair Obscur is calling me.
Re: Poor Showing for DOOM: The Dark Ages on PS5 Pro
Look who made it. It’s no surprise PS wasn’t a priority and it runs better on X than Pro in some areas.
Re: Rumour: DOOM: The Dark Ages PS5's Physical Edition May Require a Download to Start
@themightyant
It doesn’t. I’m just judging levels of badness. With MS choosing not to release some games physically at all! For me, I buy physically because I don’t see the point of spending up to 10 times more buying digitally (than I would if buying second hand physically and selling again when finished). As such, it doesn’t bother me too much that you need a download after purchase as long as I have that key to sell.
Re: Rumour: DOOM: The Dark Ages PS5's Physical Edition May Require a Download to Start
I know people will be bothered by this, perhaps for preservation reasons, or those who don’t have internet, but I’d prefer this to not having physical at all. At least you still have a key to the game that you can lend out and sell when you are finished with the game.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Is Selling Extraordinarily Well on PS5, Surpasses 1.2 Million Copies Since Launch
@cburg
How am I angry? lol. I’m simply saying the value isn’t there yet, but I’ll get it when the price drops. That’s a perfectly reasonable position given the age of the game and the mass of games available currently allowing me to wait.
Re: The FTC Is Still Fighting Microsoft's Activision Buyout, and It's Not Going Well
There should certainly be something that holds MS to anything they said irrespective of what they consider to be market changes. For example, if MS make all their new games 1 year exclusive when their next console comes out. Other than that though, I don’t thing the buyout has proven negative so no action needed so far.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Is Selling Extraordinarily Well on PS5, Surpasses 1.2 Million Copies Since Launch
@GeeForce
I’m not claiming it isn’t overpriced elsewhere also.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Is Selling Extraordinarily Well on PS5, Surpasses 1.2 Million Copies Since Launch
@cburg
Do you want me to tell you the price of similarly old games of a similar size? Yes, it is overpriced.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Is Selling Extraordinarily Well on PS5, Surpasses 1.2 Million Copies Since Launch
@Vaako007
The cost of making an old port is not the same as a new game, so yes it’s overpriced. Especially as they don’t have a physical copy (I don’t have to tell you why buying an Xbox too would also make it too expensive).
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Is Selling Extraordinarily Well on PS5, Surpasses 1.2 Million Copies Since Launch
@Slideaway1983
lol, it’s not about patience or willpower, I’m part way through at least 6 games and still have to get CO, KCD2 and Pirate Yakuza before this (all of which I’ll get as they drop in price while I’m playing a currently owned game). It just makes no sense for me to get an (overpriced) game I won’t get to until after it’s had a price drop. Sometimes I get games early just to support the dev if they are reasonably priced at launch and really good (mainly PSVR2 games), otherwise I wait. Especially if the publisher doesn’t have the good manners to release physically.
Re: Xbox's Forza Horizon 5 Is Selling Extraordinarily Well on PS5, Surpasses 1.2 Million Copies Since Launch
I certainly know I’ll be getting it when it’s a reasonable price for a port of such an old game. Until then, well, we’ve all waited this long.
Re: Sony's New First-Party Studio Working on Lighthearted Team-Based Action Game for PS5
@RBMango
Frogger type game is all I can think. Jumping across rivers on logs and such?
Re: Sony's New First-Party Studio Working on Lighthearted Team-Based Action Game for PS5
Multiplayer and a game designed to keep you trapped for ages. Really no. Live service crap.