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The problem is not AI, or even bad AI, but rather a lack of oversight. As AI improves it will become indistinguishable. In fact, most likely is that we will know it’s AI generated in future because it’s too good, too intricate, in a way we know a dev had no time for.

Just impulse bought Octopath Traveller 1 and 2 bundle for £35.99. Lowest price it’s been and a great price for both games combined.

@Kienda
If I remember correctly, I just made another account. Might have been on the ps4 and I played against it on the ps5, but if you have streaming on Plus maybe you can play this other account with one console.

Got this plat over 5 years ago but still remember it fondly too. It’s games like this, without any real narrative pull or real completion, that really benefit from platinum campaigns.

I’ve been playing a lot of open ended games recently and often now get bored before finishing the plat challenges, haven’t got one for 6 months, whereas I used to get over two a month on average. More that I’m just getting bored of flat gaming I think.

Still pretty engrossed in core keeper for now.

8/16. No luck on my guesses either. Not great.

Can’t say I really understand the problem too much. Let’s say the AI gives a few dozen designs for a character and the devs decide what they like most. How’s that really too different from outsourcing as it stands? Just because you can see the database of material that the AI uses for inspiration, but can’t see into a persons head in the same way to view the exact same thing?

@Perturbator
Flat to VR will one day be a thing on consoles I hope.

@Dogbreath
I can’t agree about Resi 4. It’s absolutely phenomenal in VR and I could never go back to playing any resident evil game externally again.

But yes, too many horror and puzzle games no doubt.

Horror is clearly best played in VR. That much is obvious and without question. But it is also true of almost every genre, so please (please!) stop with all the horror games!

@Netret0120
Mahjong is as why it took me about 4 years to plat Zero. Once learned it’s a lot of fun though!

A separate trophy list…interesting. I have all plats apart from Ishin and Pirates, which I’ll eventually get to, and they are the most fun plats of any series I’ve played…but some take up to 200hrs, do I really want to get them twice?

It’s a fine machine with no games worthy of it. Unfortunately most devs are chasing multiplatform success so it’s more unique features aren’t used. Sadly that includes Sony as a dev too. Still, very happy about the lack of loading times at least, and PSVR2 has had some real jaw droppers.

@Martsmall
“ does gaslighting means anything ?”

It usually means “if your opinion is different than mine don’t you dare try to convince me to change my mind or you’re infringing on my right to feel superior” There are few occasions where people accused of “gaslighting” are actually doing so.

But back on point, your comment about Microsoft being in AI and so likely knowing about this in advance is a fair one…if they too stockpiled for that division. You are right they would care little about using it on Xbox.

As someone who reads gaming media daily, and has been gaming for nearly 4 decades and so knows what he likes, I’m fine with it. Marketing is likely to bring more success though. Sounds obvious to say it like that. But then if it’s a low budget, low effort remaster they’ll likely have limited marketing budget anyway.

Well, considering that most of these first party devs were making games for PlayStation until very recently, this is not a surprise.

37% of kids have good parents at least, lol.
Playing Fortnite or Roblox ad nauseam is just withering the spirit and imagination. Kids crave new experiences, give them some.

@Crecca
But then they couldn’t sell their emulated games of course. And to be honest, I like playing old games with new trophy challenges and save states.

@Crecca
The PS5 can’t even play CDs. Hell, i can’t even play 3D films on my PSVR2 despite being able to last gen. And that’s just a license thing. Penny pinching to the extreme.

@Vyse_the_Legend
Didn’t look too much into it to be honest. I presume just the way they were stored or packed. Still, I’ve been waiting to finish the game for years lol.

@Vyse_the_Legend
I got a 360 to play them. Unfortunately the last disc of LO didn’t work. The 4th disc came in a paper sleeve and they obviously weren’t treated very well. It was quite common I hear.

@Vyse_the_Legend
Lost odyssey would be a day one purchase. Best JRPG of all time if I taken off the nostalgia glasses.

33% off, nice. Still able to get the PS Premium sub extension at £80.39 despite my current sub being active. Guess I’m one of the lucky ones. Really wasn’t expecting that price. Cheaper than last years’ sub, which I just checked in my transaction history, and it was £83.99 in the same Black Friday sale.

For £6.70 a month I really can’t moan about it too much.

Tempted by Hyke, and FF crystal Chronicles, but will probably just keep working on my backlog.

Also, a reminder for everyone to immediately turn off auto renew if you got a sub!

I thought the Aston Martin was a later addition to the lore. Before that he drove something else I can’t remember.

@Hyena_socks
Sure it’s fun, it’s just not complete. I’ll wait for the complete one. Given what the dev says there’s a good chance it will at least come out on PC.

When I heard they censored a load of adult scenes, and regretted it, I decided to wait for a directors cut or just never watch/play it.

https://www.eurogamer.net/dispatch-writer-regrets-cutting-sex-scenes

“ "We definitely cut some sex scenes. Which, in retrospect, we shouldn't have," Shorette laughed, teasing we may yet "get to see those one day". “

@InJeffable
They might subsidise, but at current material costs £500 wouldn’t be profitable. For people not having to pay to play online, and having access to lots of cheap steam games however, £600 may still be appealing.

@GamingGod
Not talking about those. The wife is a PC player and the price she can get great games at, the discounts…I’ll stick with my comment.

How is the price of a console £500? If someone asked me what next gen consoles would cost I would say £650-700 minimum. Not surprised the atmosphere was weird after that, probably trying not to laugh at the guy.

600-700, given it has access to a VR platform that will be heavily supported, has no charge to play online, and a cheap game library, seems great value to me (but then I’ve fallen out of love with AAA games anyway).

Seems nice. Then again, I have no faith these stats will be any more accurate than they have been. I’ll check it out.

I’ve been waiting for the game to drop to about £8 for ages. Looks like it might happen now the remaster is coming (or they stop selling the older game entirely). Might look at the remaster if it’s good enough and doesn’t take liberties

I always ensure my sub runs out before the end of the offer (it is was extended a few days until the 30th November due to Sony giving “free” days for an outage, but still before the end of this period.

Saying that, it’s never been a problem to extend at the discounted rate before even when subbed. Seems a bit guy and miss for who can and can’t though.

In order for me to interest in mobile PlayStation games 3 things are needed:

1) Not free to play with Microtransactions
2) No multiplayer or online in any way
3) connected to PSN and have trophy challenges

Otherwise I couldn’t care less. Hopefully they can make good money from it so they can continue to make games for the completely different, but still profitable, single player and high quality gaming market.

Could this be the most genius marketing stunt ever? Lol…(no)

This isn’t an issue with AI per se, but rather poor oversight.

@gaston
What isn’t?

Just got Core Keeper and really enjoying it. On sale for about £9.50 at the moment and highly recommended.

Unfortunately I bought the PS4 version by mistake, and despite not playing it, downloading it meant I couldn’t get a refund so I could buy the PS5 version. The Bot Sony now uses since their “wonderful” policy change of allowing refunds automatically (as long as never downloaded) now does not let you go to a human as it used to, just a bot message saying “I don’t understand, this is what the rules are, ***** you”

So yeah, playing the PS4 version due to Sony’s terrible customer service, but hopefully with a game like this it isn’t too different.

Also got Dyschronia and enjoying that in VR. Plus 7th Guest.

In a world where most games have multiple different languages for subtitles and even voice acting, I wonder how this will work out. Surely if it’s just the UI that’s locked to Japanese it’s the matter of a quick Google search to find what everything is. Or Google video translate.

Will Sony try to get devs to release their Japanese versions of games without other languages included? Maybe stop other country PSN accounts using them?

I had cause to experience this new system recently. It’s crap.

Previously I’ve been able to get a refund by talking to an advisor about a game I’d downloaded but never played. Basically bought in error.

Yesterday I bought Core Keeper (phenomenal game). Downloaded it, then realised it was the PS4 version (Sony really need to sort out their UI on this). I hadn’t yet played it, and wanted a refund so I could instead buy the PS5 version.

Unfortunately the bot Sony uses now has a concrete “if you downloaded you can’t even explain further” rule. I tried, but obviously it “did not understand that”.

Basically we lost our option to “talk” to anybody with a brain. Possibly could find a number to call but it wasn’t exactly business hours. So now I’m playing the inferior version 🙄

@dBackLash
It’s really not. Obviously AI is not yet close to the complexity of the human brain in many ways, but the ignorant concept that humans are some kind of divine beings capable of magical non neural network creativity from non experiential sources is founded in our very real ignorance of how the brain actually works and the simple fact that consciousness is a fake veneer disguising pretty deterministic cause and effect.

And no I don’t want get into a debate about the constantly changing ideas in emergent thinking. Bottom line is, I believe humans use what they experience in life in pretty much the same way AI uses a database, so this hand wringing and moralising about it seems tiresome to me.

That’s not to say I don’t think that, if something is pulled and used in an obviously copied way wholesale, that copyright or intellectual property rights shouldn’t kick in, but if it’s not obvious, or used in a way that is outside the context of the original art, then I also believes those laws currently over-reach (and if companies like Nintendo had their way that will actually get worse).

5% would have been nice when I bought the PSVR2 and Portal on PS Direct. Now what am I going to get? The PS5 Pro?! LMAO

@dBackLash
You overestimate humans. They paste together their own experiences to adapt past work also. They just aren’t consciously aware of it most of the time.

@StrickenBiged
I understand it can run this too, and might need to for certain anti cheat / piracy systems? Only read a few articles on it and I haven’t had a gaming PC for decades so not sure.

I’ve had every PlayStation since the start, but I’m willing to leave. I had the original Xbox and the 360 and left that ecosystem, every Sega console from Master System to Dreamcast and feel no loss there, every Ninty console from NES to GameCube and had no problems dropping all their franchises. The main reason I got a PS5 at launch is because it was the only console with VR, which is the most fun gaming has been for me in a long time.

This proposed machine also has a standalone, compatible wireless headset with foveated streaming and a huge number of potential games.

So yes, very interesting for me. The wife also plays mainly on PC and has an existing Steam account.

Games are cheaper. They have their own Achievement system I understand. I don’t play online so don’t care about PC online cheaters or system imbalances…

And Sony are releasing many of their games on PC anyway.

@dBackLash
You are describing young AI, or a very young human. Of course context and complexity takes time to learn but machines, usually, can learn faster and have already improved beyond what you describe.

“ "We definitely cut some sex scenes. Which, in retrospect, we shouldn't have," Shorette laughed, teasing we may yet "get to see those one day".”

Ok, then I guess I’ll wait until I can get the final uncensored /edited version.

Such a shame. But with Sony I understand people are unclear on the rules and have to be very careful.

@zimbogamer
It doesn’t “use” existing art as in the exact design. It acts like a human, using what it’s experienced and adapting it as per specific needs. Sure, you can see a database used by the AI in a way you can’t get inside a persons brain, but there is no real difference in practice.

I really feel AI is desperately needed if we are going to want AAA games that aren’t £100+ as standard, and especially if we want them released at the same cadence as previous generations. It can be used intelligently, and I’ve personally seen AI constructions that seem to me more unique, varied, and “imaginative” than what you would likely get from a dev pulling staff from one local culture and point in time.

@Nepp67
The problem with those games, and it’s massively exemplified in something like BG3, is that I feel I have to replay games to “see everything”. Which is a bore. I prefer to have a non branching narrative I can actually finish without the tedium at the end (especially if such games have trophies attached to multiple different outcomes).

Well I’m not quite sure what you mean by bringing current events into the comedy, and “adult” themes. I’ll probably just read the Eurogamer review, if they give it a poor review I’ll be sure to love it.