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@Northern_munkey
Ah, that gran turismo disc…

@x3King84
As I’ve gotten older I care less and less about collecting discs (in fact I sold all of mine, back to the NES generation, a few years ago). And without the nostalgia value, I’m now free to never clutter up my place with game discs again.

What that experience taught me was to sell as soon as I’ve finished a game so I don’t lose loads of money on it. That, in turn, taught me what atrocious value digital games are.

Until we are given the rights to sell our games in a secondhand digital marketplace I can never support a full digital future.

Preservation has nothing to do with it either. Many, many iterations of the full code dispersed over millions of devices is a far better method of preservation than commercially pressed plastic discs with a lifespan of 20-30 years under normal usage conditions.

Live service games are a complete waste of precious gaming time given how repetitive they are and how much “engagement” they demand. So, I won’t be considering it, obviously.

@Ilyn
Yes, I felt this as soon as I booted it up. But then after playing a few hours I realised that the hours required to finish the game, and the repetitive nature of the environment, wouldn’t make it the best fit for VR after. Absolutely wouldn’t be surprised if a VR mode was released though, or at least hear that it was planned at some point.

Stella blade it is then!

Free to play? No thanks.

@Oram77
Ok, you can believe that if you wish. The rest of the game, not to mention the devs’ original designs, stand in strong evidence against that. But you can believe the devs had a change of heart if you wish.

@Oram77
You think it was the devs’ choice and not the publisher?

I wouldn’t see it as a problem anyway. MS require a live login for their games on PS

@Oram77
lol, the naivety.

And the world just becomes a little less enjoyable.

@MasterEMFG
This would obviously make the game 1 million times better, but MS have shown they have no interest.

I can’t play the game with such a massively broken levelling system and irrational enemy scaling. Fix the former so it pays off to level up the skills you actually want to use, and remove the latter so it just pays to level up. Then I’ll be all in.

@LiamCroft
Sure, but that’s like saying you can’t review Astro bot or last of us. For some phenomenal games you just make time

The best yakuza is 5, by far. But this is great. Don’t care about anything multiplayer though so the additions don’t matter to me. The extra cut scenes I’ll watch on YouTube.

@StrickenBiged
Exactly this. Fingers crossed the game can live up to its potential now.

Then why are they charging for games as if they are AAA standard and cost 300m?

I don’t completely agree. Sure, at the AAA end, graphics are great and won’t get too much better, but for VR more power is still necessary, and that’s the most interesting area of growth for me.

Also, more assistance (maybe AI) can be given for smaller and indie devs to hit better graphical fidelity. The vast majority of games I play actually look like crap.

I do agree that, other than for VR, there is still a whole generational upgrade possible with power that hasn’t yet been realised.

@Member_the_game
Can I ask where you are located for this to happen? I’m in the UK and the sale is always available to me even when I have several days left on my sub (this is the November sale, but I would think the same rules would apply)

It’s just an upgraded switch. Which is fine. I didn’t expect it to compete with a pure home console. But there was nothing there to justify the price hike on games which cost substantially less to make than AAA PS or Xbox games.

And the focus on social features, whilst completely on brand, really isn’t for me.

Plus it seems they’ve paid for a load of times exclusives which, again, I don’t criticise them for, but as they will inevitably be weaker versions than the full console counterparts it is a bit annoying. Especially as they must know they are building a console that will either be for casual gamers or which will be a second console for more “hardcore” gamers.

Was a bit perturbed until I found out it’s an asymmetric multiplayer game. No thanks, keep it.

Given Ninty games won’t cost half of what a AAA current gen title will to make, this is particularly bad from them.

Give me PSN trophy integration for the games and stop focusing on social play and it could become my (non VR gaming) console of choice. Will never happen, obviously.

It is fine for more social gamers, especially younger. I have no interest in social features at all. Other than these things like chat and game sharing, I don’t see anything other than a slightly more powerful switch.

Sounds decent, although a shame it doesn’t have more action. In an alternate timeline this could be in VR though 😭

So they are saying nobody else should have work? The guy basically refused to do his job, so they gave it to someone else. The real scandal here is the pressure this, perhaps well intentioned, mob is putting on others.

And using the word “prised” is totally unacceptable in my opinion.

So nobody is wearing the panties? They just float around? Bit of a missed opportunity that, surely?

I do hate my time being “wasted” in games. I realise others have different opinions, but if I die and have to go through 30 minute of cutscenes and easy gameplay to get back to were I was before, then I just get frustrated.

I have maybe 90mins a day max to play, after work, and don’t want repeat things, just like I wouldn’t want to continually read page 1 of a book after I’ve experienced it, I want to move on to page two and then three etc, and would never voluntarily go back.

As the trophy challenges are there still, I’m in the camp of thinking it’s nonsensical to not have a plat, but it doesn’t make any difference. Now if there were no trophy challenges given at all, that would be a shame.

@Dalamar
Imagine you play perfectly fine. You just have slightly less game and challenge than you would otherwise 🤷‍♂️

I do find it funny how those who claim not to care about Trophies would actually appreciate the developers giving them more game challenges as long as no “Trophies” are attached. Almost like Trophies actually make a (negative) difference to their enjoyment of a game challenge.

I’ve gone from being really impressed with how they’ve added to the game to just wishing they had worked on a sequel instead. This has gotten into the realms of being almost a live service game. I’d be willing to pay for a completely new adventure.

Digimon is a great Portal game, so will give that a go.

I like the art / characters, but I feel like I’ve played this game too many times before.

People don’t like to admit it, but if we really want large scope games at a good cadence, we need to develop AI assistance sharpish.

This system is so overhyped. It’s basically an enemy scaling system (which I hate) with a few overly repeated quips and cosmetic flourishes.

As to the cynical attempt to kill the trade in market, what’s new? Seasons, DLC that only releases digitally, one time use codes..it’s all disgusting.

@Flaming_Kaiser
AI can use someone’s voice likeness to create output. Those actors and actresses CAN then be paid for the use of their voice likeness, just like a famous persons’ visual likeness can be sold. This is cheaper for the publisher and means the source artist can be paid for, effectively, nothing, many times over.

The people damaged are the consumers in this scenario.

Keep improving guys. It’ll really be great by the time the PS6 is out and I get my hands on it.

I think the fact that it was a “social impact” award, rather than a “best game”, or some type of “most popular/commercial success” award etc, shows why there is nobody there to receive it. It didn’t review fantastically, didn’t sell fantastically…I’m not even sure what great social impact it could have had in those circumstances.

I’ve played (and got the platinum) for 4 of the games in the series I think, but this wasn’t even on my radar given the so-so reviews and massively inflated price.

That’s on both the devs and publisher unfortunately.

@Haruki_NLI
Endorphins? You mean what everyone should be looking for when playing videogames? Fun?

I wasn’t talking about that as such. I was talking about the developer set challenges the devs should be adding soon. I’d wait for that to be completed.

If I was to priorities playing these games I would, of course, wait for them to be finished. Let the devs add the remaining challenges.

@Flaming_Kaiser
Not sure what you just wrote. Or how it can possibly be relevant to what I said. It is quite clear that both voice actors and devs can benefit from AI if they are able to come to a reasonable, mutually beneficial resolution. It’s the quality of the output that’s the real concern.

I’m really not sure why these two sides can’t find common ground. It’s the players that should be campaigning. From the actors’ point of view, they can now be, theoretically, paid for work they don’t do (much more “work” therefore), just because a likeness of their voice is used, and the devs can likely pay less as no humans are involved. Why can’t they work out a simple business proposal?

The players who may have to make do with inferior characterisations. Sure, they should be complaining.

Will a disc last long enough for me to finish the game and then trade or sell it? Yes. So that’s good enough for me. Far too many games released for me not to have enough new games to play 20 years later.

This is bad in terms of game preservation however, and new players being able to play the game in 21 years time. Thought a disc would last longer than that.

Would be exciting news if the game wasn’t crap.

Strange question. If I get it I’ll try to complete it. If I don’t have the skill or it doesn’t hold my interest long enough then i won’t complete it I guess, but I don’t go into a game expecting not to try to complete all its challenges.

I have no kids and the wife and I have a PlayStation each, but even in this scenario I get an amazing amount of use out of the portal because we can be in the same room while playing our individual games this way. Plus I can play in bed without hogging the TV, or indeed while watching TV for certain types of game. Wouldn’t be without mine now.

Is the 55GB actually added to the game size though, or is it like most updates that patch over existing things?

Fingers crossed they’ve fixed the broken levelling and enemy scaling systems. Hope they remake Morrowind, by far the best in the series.

A VR game makes it a good month always.

Anyone who gets the chance to play games like this, or Resi, or GT, or Astro etc, in VR just immediately knows they’ll never be able to truly enjoy playing them flat again. Be careful people.