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8k for a 4k system with the most popular game by 2k. OK.

Best News Ever!!!!!

Microsoft saving me £250 this Christmas as my sons now getting this nerfed console. Well in MS.

I can then spend the saved money on games for my full phat PS5. Get in!

Remember when we got 1 game with all of the stuff?

This business strategy is so horrid it makes me want to smash tennis balls at a line judge.

@LiamCroft this is way luckier

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9oG56-VtAcg

Can I get an article please

@Ashkorsair platinum?

Man I love SoR, I have like one S Rank on hard or above. Absolutely nails. You must have already got your moneys worth.

You want GaaS everyone?

Hot stinking GaaS?

So much GaaS it gives a warm feeling in your trousers. With lumps.

I got a final fantasy 9 out of 20.

@Smoolio I'm way out of touch man, if by out of touch you mean sensible, intelligent and against exploitation.

Ignore away smoolio you only entered the fray to promote awful business tactics like some wannabe pyramid scheme spokesperson. We have all met people like you before. I could never convince you of anything as you are actively promoting nonsense which clearly most of us are against.

Wherever it will prove popular only time will tell. I don't like it either way.

@Smoolio

1) expansion packs.
2) Monthly set charge.
3) In game advertising.
4) Fan donations.
5) GOTY edition.

Just because you are small minded and happy with these ever increasing barriers to entree and pay to play mechanics doesnt mean we all are.

GaaS is a new thing, popular of course but that doesn't mean it's good.

@Smoolio How long have you worked for Crystal dynamics?

The abusive mechanics used is GaaS has its fans. Just like the gamblers who spend their pensions in William Hill. But they don't effect how a game of football pans out.

Point 1- Battle passes include points which you can save to redeem another battle pass.

Debunked. The points you could theoretically save are interspersed, the slog in battle passes is real. During your 20 hour grind other more glamorous one off purchases will magically appear on the home store. So you can either hold onto your accumulated points after a 15 hour grind or go f£#£ it I'm buying that shinier thing now.

That's what actually happens.

Point 2 - The games £50 at release.

Its a full retail game, during the opening window everything should be free for a determined amount of time. £50 during a recession is a lot of money, anyone buying at release is supporting the game. We understand the gaming economy has pivoted towards micros but you need good will to the day 1 fans.

Point 3 - You get free heroes

What we are actually getting is another opportunity to spend another £10 on a grindy battle pass. Battle passes are preferable to Lootboxes no doubt but they strip away natural rpg elements, becoming a pseudo levelling mechanic. Which was included in every rpg prior to battle passes for free since gaming began.

Point 4 - Putting the cart before the horse

The best games of old had you enthralled and invested, fans of a particular game could then maybe buy a well earned expansion or piece of dlc. Now we have the Multiversed micro filled road maps from Satan before we have even played the game. There are no fans of this game yet, so why do they think this behaviour is acceptable?

Ps Plus has been great the last few months. Fall guys, mw2 remastered, cities skylines etc.

If we want to make a case for PS Plus being bad, we should start by acknowledging its been okay, good or great. When someone says 'I haven't downloaded a ps plus game in ages' - Fall Guys is THE most downloaded game from ps plus ever.

This month absolutely sucks for me. I loathe SFV (USF4 was the nuts) and PUBG is less fashionable the crocs right now. But it's not the end of the world.

@redd214 in my experience they were unplayable. I couldn't turn without having to Snake drive over turns, permanent under and over steer on the same track. I really wanted to like the game but it was impossible. Glad you found a setup you liked, wish I had the same experience.

Changing the handling is a huge win.

Project Cars 1 + 2 were unplayable on a controller.

Props for the interview and love the way the niche simulation genre gets a look in.

Thanks Dovetail for giving Pushsquare the interview. Now we just need to workout how we can push the game to a 9 or 10 out of ten.

@Papers92 I think most of the Pushsquare users are enthusiast gamers who play a lot of games. Supporting multiple developers. This in turn makes sites like Pushsquare a valuable resource. So it's surprising to see such an article. Liam writes from the heart and although I disagree can understand his viewpoint as he really does enjoy GaaS.

GaaS which will inevitably go on to become the de facto consumption of gaming is plagued with issues which are completely unregulated. GaaS is all consuming and extremely addictive. Which is why its popular with the mainstream.

I like a few service games, mainly Rocket League - it wouldn't function any other way than as a GaaS. In that respect its a huge success. But even I, as a weary old bloke with responsibilities have spent way too much time on a mostly worthless pursuit trying to break through platinum rank. I could have played a newer game or twenty in that time frame.

You have the nonsense of gimped games at release being charged at full price and not being able to play if the servers are down. My teenage sons solely play GaaS fueled games, I would rather they support multiple developers but they won't. Playing the same 5 or 6 games on a cycle - made worse by the LockDown. Its always social which is a positive, not really why I'm a gamer though - for me it's escapism.

We also have to make the distinction of what is GaaS. I summarise its a game that needs an Internet connection to function and incrementally alters the game mechanics and content over a period of time, funded via various ways to pay to play outside of the initial cost of the game. That to me is GaaS.

There is a myriad of cross contamination across genres in this respect, fighting games although they may not be considered GaaS are so encumbered with stripped down rosters you have to purchase a season pass or 5. This grossly inflates the price.

Anyway to draw a line under my own meanderings, the best stand alone games are the equivalent of Fight Club, Aliens, Rocky, The Shawshank redemption - one off movies that leave a lasting impression.

GaaS is the light, breezy, on in the background stuff like Coronation Street or Match of the Day.

Good stuff happens in coronation Street, We all know the theme tune. But in no way is it better than. Aliens. Game over man.

'Some studios take it too far — using "no microtransactions" as a marketing tool is a big no-no in my opinion'

I've lived a long life and seen many things. Even accidentally walking on my Mum and Dad having sex. That was less shocking to 7 year old me, than reading the above sentence.

Gran Turismo 7?

@Midgar777 Kind of, you and me both are clearly looking forward to it - so £600 for console, pad and game seems reasonable.

To a less enthusiastic gamer with a limited budget - will probably wait. They won't have funds set aside for a keynote in our calenders.

Another analogy. I can literally go the shop and pick up a switch as an impulse purchase £269 and grab a game for maybe £300 all in. If the PS5 is £600 we'll it's expensive. There won't be many people who could afford to impulse purchase the unit.

Parents with a £500 budget per kid for Xmas would be out. (sorry any kids Santa is your parents). And I will be honest with a family of gamers, I wouldn't put a preorder in for the Series X for my son if it's over £500.

So they have to tread carefully with the pricing. My bets are on £450 without the Blu Ray and maybe £525 with it.

They just had to include Astros Playroom in the day 1 edition.

Move over Mario a new mascots in town and he doesn't get his kicks from beating up endangered turtles.

Static backgrounds make a huge difference. I've found a similar issue in the likes of F1 2019.

Its all a bit sterile and pushes you out of the experience.

@Midgar777 Because money is important. I can throw £2k-3k at a system but never would. With £600 I would want the console, extra pad and a game.

As for the general population the average wage for employed people under 30 is under 25k. Approx £1700 take home pay after tax, asking for £600 is a big ask during a recession to this group of people.

@Artelous If no one buys the console your second year awesomeness won't happen so let's stop beating this drum.

It's the same drum people who primarily buy pre owned games beat. If no one buys at release there is no success.

#day1 #ps5 #hatersgonnahate

@PretendWorking yes my world does.

Without a British team left in the cup it's a bit crap.

@AdamNovice It's more a problem that infallible is a trophy. You have to beat 60 people - 5 times in RNG filled games, random people hitting the ball in your own goal and going awol, server disconnects and the sometimes dodgy physics and grab mechanic. The games great, the trophy unfortunately isn't.

I've ran some stats and after a session win, you then have a 2, 313, 441 to 1 chance of winning the next 4 sessions if 40 people in each session are on a similar level.

@NeoTokyo404 haha great comment.

Fall guys is awesome goty 2020.

11 out of 20. So glad I had FF12, celeste and Nex Machina as easy choices.

I swear these quiz questions are written by the people behind university challenge #UChardmode

'It's also very important you don't play this round with Push Square contributor Simon Fitzgerald, who will go out of his way to sabotage you.'

It was brilliant though. I will remember that moment for a very long time.

@oats-81 I have always been an inverter since the beginning of time. Sworn by it for so many years, I couldn't play Crysis as it didn't give me the option as an example. This year though my brain has changed and I'm more happy using the default camera.

I think playing games with my daughter has done that. Also I can use both after a few seconds of working it out - even fps.

@ApostateMage @nessisonett Only about 15% of players used fem shep. And every single person in that 15% had a better time.

@Mathieu_B
Played through ME1 3 times.

Didn't save Kaiden once.

1. The Witness
2. Fez
3. Statik

No idea why Gorogoa gets such high praise, yes it's different but it's guess work on your first go and a load of messing around.

Good puzzle games don't need guesswork, there's that enlightenment when you can see the answer. I think it's been so successful due to its early praise. Yes give it a go its not bad by any means. But better than Statik or Fez? No way.

Played slime climb as the first race last night.

60 people to 8 people in 1 level.

I liked it. The pedestrian looks interesting and Bug Snax looks great too. Godfall seems right up my alley, repetitive gameplay with a solid gameplay hook like Diablo 3 or Destiny - not for everyone but I will be all over it for a couple of weeks before moving to something else.

Some classy games showcased for underground gamers like Spelunky 2 and Braid anniversary. Nice.

My one to watch will be Hood. Its early doors but if Sumo can pull it off could be a big hit.

@get2sammyb hang on Sam.

Did you just announce FF16???

I never finished pokemon.

It was too charizhard.

Finally a chess game I could challenge @LieutenantFatman at.

Jonathan Blow was designing a programming language at one point. I found this out listening to a lecture thinking it would give me hints for the witness. I was left emotionally drained about 15 minutes in as he has an Infinitely superior brain and uses words I didn't know existed.

@cashflowx Right here and now both Trump and Boris Johnson are playing games and pushing barriers of the political systems which have kept our countries in relatively good stead for a relatively long period of time. Its up to you how you see things and living your lifestyle and who will benefit you the most it's clear who you will vote for. But we are heading into really choppy waters with those blaggers in charge on the international stage. But are we always in flux? Is this an inevitability? Will crap happen anyway? Are all politicians as selfish it's just Trump comes out and says what he thinks?

Trump is no angel and is clearly in it for himself. He comes across well at rallies and has quite the Persona. Unfortunately and unforgiveably he gave the nod to separate children from parents and lock them in cages with his wife wearing an I don't care coat. That never will sit right with me, kids should never be locked in cages. Mass immigration is such a taboo subject and is a real issue which has also faced our country, but you simply cannot lock kids away from their parents it's the single worst thing you can do bar murdering them. I would rather lose everything than have my daughter taken away to god knows where for who knows how long to face God knows what.

And with that I don't know how anyone could vote for him.

(I don't know anything about Biden but he seems like the American version of Jeremy Corbyn and that isn't a good look)

In a two horse race with a ton of history and experience behind them you could pull dirt on practically anyone the same age in a similar social standing. But for me America has a solid backbone to do good for the world, peace and unity, good will to all men. Is Trump the man who can unite everyone when he slanders everyone he works with?

Turned off Facebook years ago.

That's what happens after you play Watchdogs.

Also my friends can't spell which infureated ne.

Played this with the Fall guys from the forums last night and 3 of us got in the top 4 for tail tag. Felt sorry for the other guy in a fun, consta pulling him back kind of way.

I think the grab button needs some work in the team games. I had a dude in a headlock and the tail must have been superglued up his anus.

Butterfinger?

Listen I know the missus is getting on a bit but we have other alternatives.

Fortunately this generation when we straddled the cliff edge of bare bones games with hefty microtransactions, we managed to stay on the mountain.

Everything's crossed that we get another few years of first class single player games before consoles become engulfed in service games and finally throw us off into the sea.

9/20. Much better second half.

First 10 questions I got 2 correct. Nails mate.

Sonys competition next gen will be prising people from their PS4. What a flipping console and what an absolute beast of a library. It's why we are all here. Salute.

Nintendo ordered their chips from Mccain.

@Richnj Halo Reach was great.

Good to see Noah finally landed the Ark and is throwing tunes together after posting the animals into Chester zoo.

Dreams way down the list is disappointing

@I_Like_It Why are you surprised?

When the charts are encumbered with evergreen garbage like GTA V (great game but not that great), Mario Kart and Minecraft anything highbrow hasn't got a chance. Its like on TV pitting the Sky at night vs coronation Street.