Crystal Dynamics has always promised that the superheroes added to Marvel's Avengers after launch will always be free, but what it didn't tell us until now is that the cosmetics associated with those characters will have to be unlocked via a purchasable Battle Pass. Titled Hero Challenge Cards, completing daily and weekly challenges will level it up and thus unlock new items to equip the associated superhero with. That's standard stuff for these sorts of progression paths, and this approach sounds fair considering you'll be earning Credits through the base game's six superheroes.
As part of a new blog post on the game's official website, it is stated that the six superheroes arriving in the base game will all have their Hero Challenge Cards unlocked straight away. Starting with Hawkeye, you'll then need to purchase these cards separately for 1,000 Credits. This currency can only be obtained through unlocks on other Battle Passes or with real-world money -- $5 will net you 500 Credits. That means a single Hero Challenge Card works out at exactly $10.
To be clear, the character itself and the story, gameplay mechanics, and locations associated with them will be free of charge. But if you want to customise that superhero with unlocks and decals, you will then need to start splashing the cash. 40 tiers will net you outfits, takedowns, nameplates, emotes, and more. The developer goes on to say that if you reach the maximum tier, you will eventually earn all of your Credits back.
These Hero Challenge Cards won't be replaced either, meaning you have all the time in the world to unlock everything they have to offer. Theoretically, if you complete all of the six Hero Challenge Cards for the base superheroes, you won't have to spend any money on Credits for a significant amount of time. And, of course, a handful of the 40 tiers will be free to all users.
How do you react to this? Do you think it's a fair way of going about microtransactions and Battle Passes? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
[source avengers.square-enix-games.com]
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Insert Spider-Man pointing meme between this and Fortnite.
Yuck.
I’ll pick this up when it’s basically given away and do the story. I won’t give them a penny for this nonsense. Remember when customising a character was seen as a basic part of most games?????
Yeah me too
Multiple attires in a superhero game should be included for free with some added in dlc - see Arkham games
I was willing to give it a shot despite its bad press, but this won't fly for me.
In cases like this you just hope it backfires so hard we finally are getting rid of these practises
Haha they can get lost, the beta was average if im being generous but this just ensures I'll have no further interest in this nonsense
This just feels grubby.
Do you get credits from the base 6 heroes' passes though? If so you could technically save those for it and not pay a penny... I hope so anyway.
Edit: And I just noticed you mentioned the original 6 passes in the article. Guess I am saving the creds from those
I don’t understand the point of giving you the credits back, on a pass that has no time limit. I guess it’s so hard to grind they just expect people not to complete it before another superhero comes out that someone would move onto?
Considering a lot of people's reaction to the awful Beta you would have thought they would have dropped such nonsense. No thanks.
@Gatatog Yes, I mentioned this in the article.
This is too much for me. Have a Battle Pass by all means, but c'mon!
@LiamCroft Heh, yeah sorry. I just edited my original comment after realising that
@Stocksy The Ultimate Alliance games were filled with customisation and costumes for the low price of nothing. This stuff used to be earned through gameplay.
@Stocksy I remember when just 2 years ago we got a Spider-Man game with lots of costumes to unlock in game and they even added a few more
Any chance of me getting this flew out the window
I'm not mad at the battle pass, but one for each character is nuts, the only reason I'm not complaining too much...its all cosmetic.
😒 So you have to pay £50 for the game, then buy the battle pass for skins.... At least a free to play game is free.
I hate games trying to extract every last penny. Sell me the game fine, or make it a FTP game don't do both. I'm out.
Yeah, thats an easy NO from me. Let that game die.
Yeah, the game is dead to me. This is toxic games as a service behavior and how not to do it. I hope this game fails. It probably won’t do too well.
"Give Games as a service a chance" they said.
@carlos82 @nessisonett exactly. I loved the alliance games and double dipped on them. Spiderman was cracking too. Comic book fans don’t want one attire. To monetise this is horrid.
I hope this flops. I wanna play the campaign mode but I’m in no rush.
@AdamNovice “they can be a good thing” they said
I guess this was to be expected.
Doesn't bother me one bit. I couldn't care less about cosmetics, as long as the characters and the game are good
@nessisonett Did you play 3? It was a slog to work through to earn all the stuff. Like laughably bad/long. And A LOT of stuff was locked behind a season pass' worth of DLCs that couldn't be bought separately.
I mean... if the base 6 EACH have enough points to buy one pass, then you theoretically top them out and have enough currency to buy SIX MORE passes.
It sounds bad on paper, and will surely be a lot of grind, but what battle pass isn't?
They're giving you enough currency to buy 6 of the damn things, as is. Only impatient people will need to spend money on any of them, ever.
Of course it has.
Thankfully I have no interest in this anyway.
I’ll pass thanks!
@MFTWrecks Yeah, I haven’t got 3 because I’m waiting for a cheap bundle with the DLC. The originals were great fun.
Haha, when's this on plus? Apparently around as long as it took battlefront 2 to be on there.
Crazy stuff. Always a yin and yang to these situations.
There is zero reason to pay for cosmetics regardless if they are in the game or not. If you feel so entitled to them you must buy them that's on You. Only if you feel you love and enjoy the game so much you would like to support the Devs more should you pay extra over the games original price.
@get2sammyb remember in the discussion that shall not be named how I said Crystal Dynamics would view extra "free" characters etc. I really don't hate to say I told you so. These games are designed by accountants, not games designers. No genuine creative wants to put this sort of product out, they just don't, it's truly soul destroying.
Just when I thought I couldn't hate this game any more than I already do.
So much milking of consumers have unfortunately become the norm, I think something like cosmetics should be capped at 99 cents or something, to avoid exploitation of primarily children
I'd honestly prefer just paying a little more for the game in its entirety. And yes I view customization as part of the game.
Still, the game would need to be good and I'm still not so sure on this one.
Wait for a deep sale people. If the game turns out amazing you’ll have saved money & there will be some updates & QoL changes in the meantime. If it turns out bad you saved yourself from buyer’s remorse. It’s a win-win (unless someone is holding a gun to your head absolutely forcing you to play this on day 1 i’m sure you can play something else in the meantime and things will be just fine).
On a sidenote I can’t wait for AngryJoe’s video. I’m sure he’ll be thrilled with this.
I really wish this was just a simple, single player, story driven game.
Yeah Avengers is a hard pass from me at this point. I had hope, it was dwindling, and now I’m done. I’m excited for Miles Morales!! And, more cautiously, Gotham Knights...
Lol. ‘Live service’ at its finest.
Well... I was going to buy this day one at one point but after the beta which was okay but nothing amazing... And now them deciding to mention this aswell about a week before it launches, just stinks of greed to me! I’ll wait till I maybe hear something good about it and pick it up really cheap on a sale or pre-owned at some point. Never been one to moan but it is getting annoying now. Some companies don’t give a sh*t about their games only the next thing they can make more money off...
This article is misleading/inaccurate.
You do not need to pay to activate the battle cards. You pay to get the premium rewards on the card. The characters have free rewards on their character card too. Like most battle-passes, you can still level up and get the free rewards. Then pay later to unlock the premium rewards.
I believe you can actually also buy each premium reward piecemeal once unlocked for a small price,But buying the whole pass is cheaper overall.
It's like you're just trying to make the game look bad so you have something to write about. Even if it does have some paid cosmetics they are giving the actual content and some cosmetics FOR FREE and people call them greedy...
@ohhaime I think we've all seen enough Battle Passes to know that the free rewards will be few and far between.
Your second point also hasn't been confirmed.
So this is what has become of the studio that developed the tomb raider reboot trilogy. Crying shame that rather than have a fourth entry (the 3rd was ok) we get this stereotypical monetised cash grab.
This game should have been a solid single player like the batman games, Spider-Man games etc instead it looks like a online mmo with all the micro transactions you can think of.
A single challenge card will net you enough to buy the next one, as all 6 base heroes have the premium unlocked for free you will get enough to buy Hawkeye's and if you finish his you will have enough to buy Spidey's. Basically as long as you always keep 1000 credits back from what you get from the cards you will never have to spend actual money on these cards. I'm not a fan of these systems but this is certainly one of the more fairer versions of it.
@LiamCroft If it follows the beta version then the free stuff should be pretty decent.
@LiamCroft But you falsely wrote that you need to pay just to activate the pass and make no mention of the free rewards. Your headline is also misleading saying that "every" hero has a paid pass when all the base character have a free pass.
And my point about buying rewards piecemeal was how it was shown to function in the beta, so it's pretty confirmed. Also backed up by the recent blog stating the content in the pass has a value of over 12,500 Credits.
@nessisonett have you played the new one? I'm tempted to pick that up for my Switch instead of this
PS4 gets to exclusively pay extra to unlock everything
That's it. Crystal Dynamics are dead to me. Either they make a new Legacy of Kain game or I'm boycotting for life!
It’s funny watching people contorting themselves trying to spin this in a positive lite. Between this and the money from those games going to that nutjob Ike, it’s crazy to think it’ll still sell by the millions... weird world
Here we go!! The bs microtransactions begins, smh.
@ohhaime In fairness when its stated that every hero has a paid pass, it is presumed that the 6 original heroes aren't included. With SE promoting for the last few months how they're going to support it with hero after hero month after month it's very fair to point out how SE and CD have been misleading consumers along the way. Hence why this is coming out now just a few days before release. SE and CD are involved in really scummy practices here. This is Battlefront 2 levels of awfulness and needs to be called out by the gaming community for changes, not supported. Battlefront 2 shows what happens when we argue against the nonsense, we make a difference (loot boxes being discussed in parliaments worldwide now). We should also take Square Enix to task for this too... Its not good enough and needs to stop. The article is very fair and points out the facts. Stop being a SE and CD apologist.
Most of you seem to have missed the part where it says special TakeDown moves are also required to be purchased!
@pip_muzz Sorry but I don't see what's scummy here. All characters advertised on the box have all their unlockable content available for free. You can still get the new characters for free, and you can likely get some of their cosmetics for free.
How do you expect them to afford to keep making content if they don't charge anything? Would you rather have to pay $10 to get each new character and all their cosmetics? How is that better then everyone getting a free character then paying $10 for their cosmetics if they want?
@Kev_Morrison The different take-down moves are only cosmetic changes to the animations I believe. They still function the same.
Hahaha what a joke
@ohhaime Because before the game is out they are marketing the extra heroes already. This isn't announcing new heroes months after release and offering a paid expansion.
It's scummy because they are saying one thing and hiding the payment structure behind press releases. They would be better off being honest and charging for each hero without the pretense of it being all a good deal.
Also, I'd just rather they made a proper adventure and avoid all this quite clear long term monetisation plan.
To think that the player's experience is the foremost concern of SE and CD here is naive at best.
@pip_muzz "It's scummy because they are saying one thing and hiding the payment structure behind press releases. They would be better off being honest and charging for each hero without the pretense of it being all a good deal. "
But you get the new characters without paying anything, How is a completely optional payment bad? Isn't having to pay for a new character worse then having the option to pay? How is having to pay better?
I for one am happy to let the whales pay for my free DLC.
Oooooh! I ****ing knew it! **** that! Wow!
@pip_muzz But the new heroes, villains and missions are all free.
I feel like I'm arguing against a brick wall in this comment section. Go and enjoy the avengers game if you're so intent on doing so. I shall leave it well alone!
I understand why they are doing this but the idea of paying for essentially a battle pass for each individual character in a game in which you are paying 60 bucks up front sounds pretty greedy from my point of view. I have little interest in this game, even less than before.
What does Liam think about GaaS titles now?
Still a fan?
🤔
Sounds positively scummy. I'd like to think no-one will part with a single extra penny but we all know that's a forlorn hope.
I do hope that neither Gotham Knights or Suicide Squad will follow suit. Time will tell but categorically rejecting similar practice in these games would be a real draw to anyone wavering about buying either.
It's like they want this to fail...
Bro this game is sooooooo dead on arrival! Lmfao! 😂😂😂 I wasn’t interested in the direction of this game to begin with, and now I’m really not interested. This is gonna go over reallll well, hahaha! 😂
Yeah, I’m done with this game. I’ll just stick with Ultimate Alliance 3 for my Marvel fix. Hell, I’ll even go back to playing Marvel vs Capcom Infinite.
In one's best Bart Simpson voice "What happened to you Crystal Dynamics you used to be cool?"
Special cards, upgrades etc., that all worked great with Battlefront 2, right?!
Oh well, like Fallout 76, this, Destiny 2, etc. I'm not their demographic target. Even the likes of ps plus freebies like Fall Guys are only be played in short bursts. I'm more a good story campaign ala Sony 1st parties like HZD, Spiderman, GOW, GOT, Uncharted etc. & Indies & retro classics.
Still, these live service games keep Jim Stirling going with enough material to laugh at/about!
That's standard stuff for these sorts of progression paths, and this approach sounds fair considering you'll be earning Credits through the base game's six superheroes.
You honestly feel this [bleep]ing [bleep] is [bleep]ing fair!?!?
Get out of here! [bleep] this game... This is garbage... You would think this is a cursed phone game...
I'll judge when I play the missions themselves. Everyone had their panties in a bunch with MK11 'supposed scummy microtransactions' and I ended up unlocking everything without spending a single dime on Time Crystals.
So I'll keep an open mind.
@MFTWrecks
Yes how great is that making a fulltime job out of grinding/playing a game so much fun.
I love too play something else now and then. With games like COD MW i dont have much time left anyway.
And here is the monetisation. Again, Games as a Service is a plague among gaming.
I’m not a super hero franchise fan but I was genuinely interested that this might be a fun game with light RPG elements and decent combat.
But this is where I draw the line. This is greedy and s****.
@MS7000 I tend to agree. The industry seems to want it both ways. First charge full price for a game and then ALSO require an ongoing fee while being assaulted with micro transactions either way.
They are essentially triple dipping and this is not acceptable.
Paid battlepass,microtransaction and lootboxes,have no place in a full price AAA game,that is just unfair.
Disgusting. My whole point with this whole GaaS games, no care for the consumer.
Interesting to note is that Marvel is also owned by Disney. Disney got involved with EA's grubby handling of Star Wars, so it remains to be seen if they will get involved with Square Enix's grubby handling of Marvel.
@Tharsman So why not make the passes free? This game still costs 60+ dollars
It's fine...all the actual dlc, i.e. characters, locations, missions, etc., are all free, as is the next-gen upgrade. Anyone who thinks they weren't going to find some way to monetize the game is delusional.
Everyone forgets that the base model for each superhero will probably be the most basic and unappealing costume in the lineup. You'll be playing online and seeing everyone else sporting the shiny, cooler battle pass costumes and feel intrinsically pressured to pull the trigger and pay. This is classic dark programming, and defending scummy micro transactions and battle passes containing toxic psychology as "just cosmetic" doesn't cut it any longer.
@GeneJacket I agree. This hasn't changed my mind on the game. People shouldn't expect the developers to put in a lot of extra work creating new characters and then not get paid. But, the characters themselves are free - it's just some of the customizable options that might cost you. If you don't like them, don't pay for them. But to claim that they should continue to give you free content forever because you paid for the base game is a very entitled view and is actually toxic to the industry.
Cancelled my pre-order after the first beta. The gameplay wasn't fun. This just cements that decision in my mind.
I said it a few weeks ago and I'll say it now - This game is a wallet milker aimed at kids.
@GeneJacket @highfiverevival
I'd rather pay for one solid expansion a year (or every 6 months at a stretch) for €50.00 than 5 costume packs a year for €5.00 to €10.00 each.
This is all about peer pressure. They want kids to taunt each other in to having the coolest costumes, just like Fortnite.
"Hey look, we give you Hawkeye and his story mission for free!........ Now spend €5.00 each on his next 6 costume packs."
Christ this make me miss Duck Hunt and my old light gun.
What you failed to talk about is that each battle pass has 1,000 currency in it...so technically you can max out the 6 free heroes and have 6,000 currency to use towards new challenge cards. So you can basically just keep reusing the currency as long as you're maxing challenge cards along the way. So many idiots out there trying to troll on this game with inaccurate and false claims about what is ACTUALLY going on. I signed up for this POS membership just to call you idiots out!!!!
@IncredibleJoker "The developer goes on to say that if you reach the maximum tier, you will eventually earn all of your Credits back. These Hero Challenge Cards won't be replaced either, meaning you have all the time in the world to unlock everything they have to offer. Theoretically, if you complete all of the six Hero Challenge Cards for the base superheroes, you won't have to spend any money on Credits for a significant amount of time."
Did you just not bother reading the last couple of sentences?
@Col_McCafferty I knew this is what it would be like. Every scummy business practice I highlighted in the GaaS "discussion" is already applicable to this fetid turd, and some are gullible enough to believe it's a good deal. It isn't. I knew from the early access offered to digital deluxe customers just what sort of money sink this would be. Until gamers stop dropping money on these thoroughly reprehensible products the accountants in the industry will continue to force developers to make them. I still maintain GaaS don't necessarily have to be this way, but they inevitably will be if suckers continue to allow themselves to be fleeced.
@IncredibleJoker I've had my disagreements recently with @LiamCroft, however he has not misrepresented anything from SE press release, he's reported it accurately, which is his job, and the things you've accused him of here are false, demonstrably so if you bother to read the damn article.
@highfiverevival "But to claim that they should continue to give you free content forever because you paid for the base game is a very entitled view..."
I'm not sure that's what anyone is saying. I think most people are uncomfortable with the way this form of monetization skews consumer perceptions of value. (I mean just look at all the hemming and hawing over crystals and card packs and what's worth this or that)
Additionally it's an attempt to extract as much play time out of you as possible, for as long as possible, out of a sense of urgency for content not because you like to play but because they've tapped into the reward centers of your lizard brain.
And this is what you people get for defending GAAS, and "cosmetic only" microtransactions, and trying to conflate these games with post launch support and DLC.
You'd think that after nearly ten years of the video games industry doing exactly this sort of stuff, you'd know better.
@Stocksy spiderman ps4
suits was all free too
This is so scummy, I hope everyday that videogames aren't going down this route but it's embarrassing how many as a service games have been announced just this year. I love PlayStation but it's sad how third parties are using properties that are loved by so many (DC, Marvel, Star Wars) and delivering garbage and thievery to the fans. There is absolutely no way this is going to stop unless people stop feeding into it just because they're fans of the property.
I remember when you could unlock extra costumes by just playing through the game.
I am aghast at this. No thanks. The Avengers gameplay should earn it the nickname “The Average-ers” but the micro transactions makes them “The Atrocious” and possibly even “The Abysmals”.
Point 1- Battle passes include points which you can save to redeem another battle pass.
Debunked. The points you could theoretically save are interspersed, the slog in battle passes is real. During your 20 hour grind other more glamorous one off purchases will magically appear on the home store. So you can either hold onto your accumulated points after a 15 hour grind or go f£#£ it I'm buying that shinier thing now.
That's what actually happens.
Point 2 - The games £50 at release.
Its a full retail game, during the opening window everything should be free for a determined amount of time. £50 during a recession is a lot of money, anyone buying at release is supporting the game. We understand the gaming economy has pivoted towards micros but you need good will to the day 1 fans.
Point 3 - You get free heroes
What we are actually getting is another opportunity to spend another £10 on a grindy battle pass. Battle passes are preferable to Lootboxes no doubt but they strip away natural rpg elements, becoming a pseudo levelling mechanic. Which was included in every rpg prior to battle passes for free since gaming began.
Point 4 - Putting the cart before the horse
The best games of old had you enthralled and invested, fans of a particular game could then maybe buy a well earned expansion or piece of dlc. Now we have the Multiversed micro filled road maps from Satan before we have even played the game. There are no fans of this game yet, so why do they think this behaviour is acceptable?
[Grumpy old voice] See how you kids ruined gaming by buying into online multiplayer, MMOs, digital only consoles, lootboxes levelled enemies etc... what's going to to be next?..the thing YOU don't like?
Thanks but no thanks.
Everybody gives Rockstar a hard time but all of their updates of vehicles, clothing, weapons, houses, businesses, horses, emotes and cowboy hats are completely free.
They better give black panther for free,or I am going to be pissed.
@JohnKarnes Finally, a reasonable response!
@Richnj you assume, based on how you personally fee,l that everyone hates this. Some of us couldn't care less about cosmetics.
Y'all can cry about the good old times, but in the good old times, you got a much shorter game with very few costumes and cosmetics. The difference in content between then and now is absolutely massive. But back then gamers weren't acting entitled.
"Oh, noes. This game has 256 costumes that I can't have for free? Unforgivable. I'd rather not play it at all".
I understand those who didn't like the actual gameplay and won't be buying it. Everyone else is just looking for the next big thing to be outraged about, because being outraged has become a way to live your life. Just like old people yelling at youngsters, grampy online people get the same sense of satisfaction from yelling at companies.
They might as well release it at $19.99. After this nonsense, they just relegated this game straight to the sales bin.
Virtual world clothing can only be bought new and real world clothing can be bought second hand from charity shops etc. I know where I would rather spend my money.
Wait...
I've just seen this kind of model... on phantasy star online 2.
But... this game was a FREE TO PLAY.
Isn't that, by all means, I don't know... a HUGE difference ?
@Smoolio How long have you worked for Crystal dynamics?
The abusive mechanics used is GaaS has its fans. Just like the gamblers who spend their pensions in William Hill. But they don't effect how a game of football pans out.
@naruball No, I'm not assuming anything. I know not everyone cares, but that's the issue. People are willfully ignorant of the effects of this type of monetisation.
There's a reason I put 'cosmetic only' in quotations, and why so many GAAS with these are just godawful gameplay wise. Games are so focused on making the cosmetics the focus rather than the gameplay that games on a whole are suffering, and you'll see that a lot of the highest rated games have minimal to zero microtransactions. If you cared about quality, you'd care about this.
But no, you do you and dismiss everyone that hates GAAS as old timers if it makes you feel better.
This game is more disgusting with each news report on it that comes out...
Greedy bast****! I’m not even going to rent this POS, game doesn’t deserve to be given the time of day.
And i suppose these are another company wanting an extra £10 for next generation games? And they wonder why gamers object to it, especially when you have microtransactions like this in a full priced game.
more content for less 🤣
... and that's the point where it starts to complicate...
Maybe I'll give it a try, when it appears in ps plus free monthly games...
Got a funny feeling this is going to go down just as well as all the money grabbing tactics in Battlefront 2. Expected more from Crystal Dynamics
If I wanted to play the marvel characters in a game I'd go replay my Lego Marvel Avengers game which is better than this sh it
This game will fail I hope it does because it's aiming for the 10 to 14 year old demographic
What you failed to mention is that every single character also earns money in game inside there free challenge card so once finish one character you will have enough credits for the next one 2 you failed to mention you earn credits in missions
Greedy pieces of ****. Live service continues to be terrible. The one good thing out of this is that there's no time limit. Something that every battlepass should be doing. Removing the time limit.
@Jamie22 “ That's standard stuff for these sorts of progression paths, and this approach sounds fair considering you'll be earning Credits through the base game's six superheroes.”
“Theoretically, if you complete all of the six Hero Challenge Cards for the base superheroes, you won't have to spend any money on Credits for a significant amount of time. And, of course, a handful of the 40 tiers will be free to all users.”
Please read the whole article before commenting.
R.I.P Chadwick Boseman.
Thanks for bringing one of my favourite superhero's,to life on the big screen.
May the big guy upstairs ,have great plans for you.
@Smoolio
1) expansion packs.
2) Monthly set charge.
3) In game advertising.
4) Fan donations.
5) GOTY edition.
Just because you are small minded and happy with these ever increasing barriers to entree and pay to play mechanics doesnt mean we all are.
GaaS is a new thing, popular of course but that doesn't mean it's good.
@Smoolio The first quote is the third sentence of the opening paragraph, that’s not a footnote! 😂
@Flaming_Kaiser Well then Games as a Service and/or MMOs aren't for you.
Sorry, but this isn't new. Don't act like it is.
More and more games are designed to be the only (or primary) game you play. It's how they make their money.
Waiting to see the same thing in Arkham Knights
This just sealed the deal for me. That’s a hard pass. Vote with your wallet.
a BAD game keeps getting WORSE. i hope it fails for the sake of the gaming industry going forward. it isn't too late to correct the path it is going in, but there will need to be some serious backlash to get back on track. i.e. people will need to speak out in a similar manner as they did with star wars battlefront. don't settle for exploitative business practices simply because the hype machine tells you to. how this is a full priced game and not free to play at this point is beyond me.
@Shepherd_Tallon "This is all about peer pressure. They want kids to taunt each other in to having the coolest costumes, just like Fortnite."
YEEEEEEESSSS SO MUCH THIS.
Sorry for being overzealous but it's one of those obvious points I don't see brought up that often.
If anyone asks you "yeah but they're only cosmetics, what's the harm in that?", well, this is the correct reply.
Thank you.
If anyone's interested in dissecting this subject, I cannot recommend enough Folding Ideas' video on YT called "Manufactured Discontent".
if gamers stopped paying for these type of games they would stop all this rip off once and for all
@Smoolio I'm way out of touch man, if by out of touch you mean sensible, intelligent and against exploitation.
Ignore away smoolio you only entered the fray to promote awful business tactics like some wannabe pyramid scheme spokesperson. We have all met people like you before. I could never convince you of anything as you are actively promoting nonsense which clearly most of us are against.
Wherever it will prove popular only time will tell. I don't like it either way.
**** this game and the dumb****s who buy into this nonsense
Just play the basic game.
There not putting a gun to your head to spend anymore unless you wish to make your character look a bit different.
@I_Like_It exactly
@Nooooope Don't expect them to provide an argument. Rage is all they have. Logic is thrown out of the window.
As if they would support a game for free for years if they were the publishers and had to spend their own money.
Sometimes, you just gotta laugh and move on.
There we go. Now it's a AAA live service game.
@MFTWrecks Guild Wars MMO non recurring nonsense with expansions without MT and no subscription fee thats a way to go.
Not (its only cosmetic) lackluster content with a timed window of course, with lets see of it sells otherwise we will kill the game liveservice nonsense.
And please leave out the roadmaps with a lot of promises that a lot of times are not kept, and a ####load of different currency where i need a diagram too figure out how to get that stuff. With ofcourse a timed grindfest.
You are right these liveservice (if you can call it a service) that make going too work more relaxing then gaming are not for me. MHW knows how too do it right a fully fleshed out game with a little liveservice
I dont care content is free i will mostly be playing as the hulk and will just unlock whatever 'grinding' stuff there is, getting it for multiplayer with a friend as we had a blast on the free beta. That is all
@naruball It's crazy how angry people are getting as something so reasonable:
1. The character and the story content ARE FREEEEEEEE. You can play the story content and the new character
2. You spend ten dollars on a character card, do the card. Doing the card gets you ten dollars in credits back (similar to fortnite).
3. Use the earned back credits to buy the next character, then rinse and repeat.
4. Support games as services that you enjoy. Churning out content, balancing the game and paying employees costs money and day one purchases can't keep a game a float forever. I happily throw money into games I've been playing for more than a year to help keep the good times rolling.
This is by far the most reasonable pitch for games as a service I have ever seen.
@Dandan1 make sure you have some extra fun for all the whiners here who could use some in their life.
I don't think that's hard to do, lately people don't know what humor/fun is anymore lol
Imagine paying $60+ to play and still have to pay for cosmetics within the game that you just paid.
GG squarenix.
The Characters are FREE and include.
"... Unique in-depth story mission chain, new villain, custom move sets, Skills, Gear, Heroics and an assortment of free unlockable Outfits, Emotes, and Nameplates"
You only pay the $10 if you want even more cosmetics to play digital dress-up (Or just want to support the game) Don't buy it, it is just more cosmetics. How many outfits do people need to play a game.
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