Sony's PSVR Reveals This Week Aren't Proving Popular

It would be nice to see some PSVR announcements for PS5. Best of both worlds, eh?

What did Sony expect? Playing chicken on purpose with Microsoft has cost them now.. they are losing consumer interest which is moving to Microsoft, because they have all the talk and attention due to pricing and pre-order reveals.
And Sony is spending the week showing VR games... Sony better undercut Microsoft (which I doubt they can do) to get that attention and interest back.
But with Sony even refusing point blank to even show the back of the PS5 off or the console itself physically.. this is what they deserve.. it is not very hard to take a video and post it on social media...

I feel for the developers of these games, but not Sony. Sony have put themselves in this situation.

All it takes is an announcement from Sony and the tides will turn once again. This idea that billion dollar companies have to be reactive is crazy.

@S1ayeR74 wait till pre-orders are live and then we can talk about Sony losing anyone to MS.

I honestly couldn't care when they announce the price. Majority are wanting the price so they can shove it back in Sony's face (I highly doubt it'll be cheaper than the series X) so why give into the mob mentality?! odds are it's still going to outsell anything MS puts out.

Today is the 25th anniversary of playstation. And sony are letting ms have all the media attention. Not a very smart move. I'm considering making a change myself. Never thought I would type that.

@daveofduncan

It does not matter if Sony outsell consoles compared to Microsoft. Microsoft are looking are covering a lot more bases in regards to income streams

@ShogunRok They don't have to be reactive, just have to actually do things.

Sony have sat there twiddling their thumbs when we all know how they can kill it with the PS5, they just need to stop being so cocky and communicate with their customers.

The chicken game of prices is over, Xbox got so bored of waiting they just said screw it.

Hoping Sony blows us away this month, they did this last time Xbox gained momentum.

Hoping for £399 for Digital Edition and £429 for PS5.

It's just the tumour that we call Twitter tbh.

Sony aren't dumb. They know the pent up demand is there. They need to channel that hype carefully though as it is turning to frustration for a lot of people.

I think its reasonable for people to be a little annoyed at both companies for being less than open with their most important asset. Their consumers. But people also need to realise that there is more at play here and ultimately Sony is a business.

I expect they are reviewing what Microsoft has announced and reviewing their marketing to make sure they are on point. I think we all accept Playstation will be more expensive, so they need to get the messaging spot on to avoid people blindly flocking to the Series S (which i still dont think will happen en mass - the draw of Sony first party is real).

Calm heads needed all round i think. We'll know everything before the end of next week. I'll be amazed if we haven't heard anything.

Pre-orders go live for Xbox September 22. So we have till then or im going green.

@Rob_230 Why should it be more expensive though? Aside from the SSD the XSX is more powerful? (And the XSX has more storage space from the go)

I am expecting £399 for the Digital Edition which is a great yet fair price for the specs.

And really Sony should match the Series X at £449, anymore screams of arrogance, you could say rightly deserved arrogance, but arrogance all the same.

@S1ayeR74 They are losing costumer interest and people are moving to x box is this a April fools joke.nobody is moving to x box.i never had a Xbox.been a PlayStation fan since day 1 in September 9.1995.word up son

@DonJorginho I seriously, seriously doubt Sony has been sitting twiddling its thumbs. More like it's had to contend with a global pandemic that's rocked the industry to its core. People seem to forget that quite quickly!

I agree that Sony's communication has been lacking at points. But I can't help but feel that when the time comes, no one will care that Sony's been silent for so long.

This exact same thing happened when we were all waiting for the PS5 reveal. We had months of people saying "Sony's blown it, it's too late, Xbox has stolen the momentum". And then what happened? We had the PS5 reveal and the complaining stopped dead.

Yes, we need Sony to say something soon — it has no choice if PS5 is coming out this year. But come on, we've been here before.

@AdamNovice And today???.... who’s trending more? The blinding next generation value Microsoft is offering today with complete blow outs and reveals? Or Sony’s PS4 VR games lol..... I personally do not think Sony can undercut Microsoft and will be facing a challenge.

@ShogunRok We all understand that, but so has Xbox and aside from a few hiccups they don't seem to be struggling so much.

We have been here before, which is why I am expecting Sony to blow us away, if they have any sense before Sept 22nd.

@playstation1995 Read my post properly.. Sony can lose easily...

I'd say the issue is they have stayed quite but then say oh pre order are open to those that have 8k free for a gold ps5 but everyone else you just have to wait. When the English class system is you company strategy to win anything. Your just waiting to have ya empire fall.

@DonJorginho Xbox didn't get bored of the chicken game, their hand was forced by the leaks. I'd imagine the original plan was an event later in September revealing all the contents from yesterday and today as well as other stuff.

@ShogunRok Yes people forget the pandemic when Microsoft, a US company also, just like how PlayStation is based in the US now, has managed to do endless blow outs today, and using social media to reveal information.. it’s not difficult to do, Sony must be inept and incapable of following suite if your blaming the pandemic.. because it’s a hell of a lot worst in the US then Japan as far as I know.

@Grumblevolcano They didn't have to announce the Series X price with preorder date though did they? The rumours of the price were being spread around but it is easy to deny and hold off fending hype and questions.

And even if they were forced, they dropped a damn good price reveal, which is going to mean Sony really has to undercut the X and not price itself more than £60 than the Series S if they want to keep good momentum.

I'm not really trying to buy a PS5 at launch, mostly because I just bought the TLoU II Pro and figure I should try to enjoy that for a while, so I'm plenty content with the PSVR Minecraft announcement. But I can definitely understand people just wanting to know already.

Still, I imagine we'll all have a set date and price easily by the end of the month so what's a couple more weeks? It'll get here.

Absolute shame on PS for letting its competitor steal its thunder on an anniversary day. This is getting ridiculous. The time for patience is over. And I don’t even mean price and release date. Can we get any additional information at all? UI launch games officially, any other features, etc.

Twitter isn't the be-all and end-all of popular opinion and unmoderated social media platforms are generally very toxic places to go for small minorities with loud voices.

I don't think this will have:
A) any impact on Sony (except the poor sod running their social accounts) or it's bottom line.
B) will force their hand. They've been following the Sony playbook step by step and will announce all details when they're ready.

@S1ayeR74 Yeah no, the reason people buy console is for the games, I don't think many people will want to miss spiderman, demons souls, gt7, and ratchet & clank because they can't wait for the ps5 price.

@jsw-8 No they haven’t, if they were following the ‘Sony PlayBook’, we would of had all the information several weeks ago!

@wiiware I think millions won’t mind missing them, I don’t care for those games, and millions more will get a Series S as well as a PS5.

@S1ayeR74. No they cant.x box already lost already.word up son

@blacklivesmatter Sure, but Facebook and Google are richer and have more revenue streams than MS and their gaming solutions are awful. I don't care about that, I care about how many good games it has, and how many games it doesn't lack, and Sony have always been great at that. The sales of the console are important in attracting games. It's not about a bunch of execs getting rich, it's about me and other gamers getting a great device.

Not really sure why people take Xbox so seriously. The first one only sold 6 million outside of NA and lost MS 4 billion dollars. The 360 was outsold by the PS3 and Wii despite launching at least a year earlier. Its game catalogue stagnated and really went out with a whimper (and I say that as someone who chose a 360 at the start of that gen and only got a PS3 at the end). Then the XB1 has no real reason to buy over a PC or other console and that's reflected in how it's only sold half of what the PS4 has - and despite launching about 2.5 years earlier, has been outsold by millions by the far less powerful Switch.

There's no reason not to think things won't play out the same way again.

@S1ayeR74 I'd imagine the Sony Playbook that's taking into account the pandemic probably allows for some flexibility and prudence. Forgive the tautology but they can only control what they can control.

I want to know what the specs of the series s is, why aren't people bothered by that? It's 200 dollars less so whats missing other than a disk drive and lower ssd memory? Maybe it's crap under the hood

@Matroska That pretty much sums up how I feel about the Xbox. Then you throw in that wack controller and I can only assume it's all very much an acquired taste.

@DonJorginho Sorry, i wasn't clear. I meant playstation all digital will be more expensive than Series S (im going £350 - Sony will take a hit, but they'll want more people going digital as they will get money back on software)

I agree, the full fat model will cost the same as the Series X. If not a few pounds cheaper. Say £429.

I'd be shocked if it cost more than the X. Sony have played the price card many times. They know how important it is.

I do feel Xbox has played a bit of a blinder this week and Sony have been very slow to react. Now whether this will result in any genuine swing in sales remains to be seen as regardless of the hardware and pricing, neither seem to have anything major of the games front to be there day one, at least not yet

@Truthhurts2 Video card gpu won't do native 4k, only 1440, they are selling it to people who don't own a 4k TV. Probably also why it's so small, good for a bedroom.

It's coming out in November so just relax and wait.

Are are all expecting £500 -£600 so it only needs confirming.

I would like a look at the rear ports and the inside and a quick demo of the home screen though just to wet my appetite.

Sony has the best launch line up

But Microsoft has been great giving it's customers a steady flow of console news over the past months.

If i was Sony id wait to announce PS5 details on the 22nd September and really steal MS thunder. People who want a PS5 will get a PS5 regardless of what the competition shows.

I don’t understand why are they still wasting their time in VR when only a really small niche market cares about that, instead of reveling the price and more information for PS5

It wont affect those that is loyal to playstation and like it's games. But people who think that Xbox Series S price wont affect casual buyer is just blind.

Not to mention Series S price is also very interesting for those who want to have a double setup PS + Xbox.

I can only assure you that no matter how low pricing the Xbox Series S is, it'll tank in the Asia market

People just do not care about Xbox whatsoever here, PS5 could cost triple the price and it would still sell

People often forget about the strong brand presence Playstation have

People are spamming their twitter account. every reply seems to be asking about the price and release date

£425. Calling it now.

I don't visit the entire internet, but the only place I've seen people rabid about the price and release date is the comments section on PushSquare.

It'll be about $500 and release in November, which pretty much every hardcore fan knows already.

I'm much more interested in release dates for games, but I'm sure we'll hear about that soon, as well.

@S1ayeR74 consumer interest has no signs of shifting. On the contrary, this is overwhelming evidence that interest in PS5 is as strong as ever. XBSX's price is revealed and almost all of the comments are about PS5 price. XB marketing cannot help but be little more than a PS5 hype machine these days, and they just lit a flame under eagerness for a PS5 price/preorder reveal.

I get that you're impatient with the prices, but the wait isn't causing the consequences you hoped it would. Those who are waiting for prices to determine the console they buy are more informed and are still waiting for all the info that will inform their decision.

Those preordering XBSX now were already getting it, maybe even with PS5 as well. What will hurt PS5 somewhat is if XBSX is in stores before PS5. The uninformed consumer will see only one next gen box and may buy it right up with no desire to own both.

Stock limitations will also be interesting to see. It's basically a certainty that all wave 1 stock will sell out for both platforms, so whoever managed to make more consoles will have the early lead.

PSVR is being held back by ageing technology. PS Move needs a complete revamp and soon. It works well for simple games like Beat Saber, but whenever there's movement required they falter (and even for BS they would benefit from being lighter). Less worried about cameras and cables, sitting still will still be the preferred way of playing in VR, although not having the latter would unlock potential for some more, cool tricks. I love VR, but it's hard to get excited when new, more complicated games seem like a chore to play.

@S1ayeR74 who won the race the tortoise or the hair? Xbox might have won this weeks buzz round but who will win the decade long war

@blacklivesmatter don't be silly, of course it matters. Ignorant to think otherwise. Microsoft are selling nothing but next gen gamepass at this rate. They have no true next-gen titles to offer at launch. Amuses me how that's being overlooked. Every game you'll have access to at launch, can be played on a Xbox one/X 😂

I hope it isn’t a ps3 v Xbox 360 situation. Xbox got a jump on PlayStation when it didn’t look likely because of ps2 sales. PS3 did catch up in sales but the damage was done early one.

Twilight Path is a 2+ year old PCVR port of a game that never generated a huge amount of excitement on PCVR.

The PSVR is old + stale hardware in 2020. Sony knows it. Devs know it. None of Sony's big studios are working on PSVR titles, and they shouldn't. When Sony does new VR hardware, that will inject life into the platform.

I still find the whole "console war" thing in these comments amusing.

Microsoft has come out and said it doesn't care if PS5 outsells Series X - that isn't Microsoft's focus anymore. It's all about Game Pass - whether you choose PC, Console, Cloud, or all three.

There is no "beating" if both teams are playing a different game.

Plus, remember that even a successful PlayStation puts money in Microsoft's wallet since bigger business for Sony means more Azure resources that Sony will need to operate it's business.

If Sony and Microsoft were in a drag race and Sony won, Microsoft would still benefit since it built the transmission on Sony's car that Sony paid for to win.

That being said, I can't wait to play Demon's Souls on PS5.

I don't think it helped with today being the 25th anniversary of the western release... But the truth is they obviously have their own plans that they'll follow, material already prepped for the videos and they're probably in the middle of gathering trailers to put on an actual show.

I doubt they plan on just tweeting it all as a reaction to another company reacting to a leak.

@S1ayeR74 Dude chill the heck out. I heard people like you say the same thing Jan-May when Microsoft had revealed their console and Sony hadn't. Then Sony started dropping little bits like the Controller etc and grabbed more attention in a couple weeks than Microsoft grabbed in 6 months. All this doom talk is annoying.

@GKO900 Because they can do both? As someone who bought a PSVR I'm glad Sony continues to support it and highlight games coming to it. Those developers need attention too. There is plenty of time to talk about the PS5.

None of this matters. At the end of the day each buyer will decide if the price is right for the games they want. It doesn't matter when the reveal is. Would you really not buy a ps5 because you are pissed they didn't reveal the price soon enough after ms did?

@playstation1995 F##K MS if i ever go somewhere else its Nintendo. 😆

@AdamNovice Really... you do know that the multiplats easily outsell the Sony exclusives right? And many I can see will buy the Series S as a second system, so Microsoft wins.

@KleebanKliban Sorry but away from Sony fan sites I’m afraid the talk IS all about Microsoft and Xbox all day long.. and many many many people looking to buy that Series S even as a second console to the PS5. Microsoft pulled a blinder today right under Sony’s nose.

@bbq_boy The Tortoise wasn’t due to go on sale in 7 weeks.....

@Flaming_Kaiser. No doubt playa.word up son

@playstation1995 I’ve had a couple of Xbox’s... and can confirm it doesn’t really matter how much PS5 is. I’m getting it for their games. I don’t care if some of them are going to PC 3-5 years from now. Sure there might be a middle of the road fan base that doesn’t care for Sony’s exclusives, but I doubt it’s going to matter

It would be foolish to expect Sony to outsell MS like they did this gen, but knowing the masses and media they’ll look at this as a failure on Sony’s part.

One thing is for certain... I’ll be drooling over sequels to some masterpieces that only Sony can deliver and using gamepass on my PC. Gamepass is a great idea, but not going to replace the exclusives I enjoy on Sony’s machines.

@MasterEMFG. I 100 percent agree with you.word up son

@PSfan4Life22 If they are launching the console this year like they said, then I think they are running out of time and if they were waiting for Microsoft price of their console now it’s the perfect time or what are they waiting for?

@S1ayeR74 From your comment I feel like I have more faith in XB than you do lol. You just told me primary interest for XB is in XBSS as a secondary console to PS5, not in higher 3rd party performance of the XBSX, meaning people are modt excited bybthe ability to pay minimum console cost for their 1st party only machine, while buying 3rd party on PS5 where it performs better than XBSS. C'mon things arent all that bad for XB. They have a lot going for em these days and next gen will be better than this gen.

Oh I see.. you came to a PS fan site to troll, but it's clear you are just as aware of the actual state of the industry as I am. Keep an eye on your subtext my friend, and you will troll more successfully in future ventures. Best of luck in your quest! May you find the satisfaction you seek!

@GKO900 I mean just because you might have been waiting for your competition to announce price doesn't mean they were going to come out the same day or the next and announce theirs. You'll likely get it within the next week. Be patient. You're still going to have 2 months before you can get it.

As someone relatively new to the PlayStation community, it's funny to see that people's general attitude on social media is just as gross as that of Nintendo fans crying for Directs. I guess all fanbases are the same in the end.

I have to admit, with the Xbox Series S and price reveal shortly after, I did slightly turn my head to Microsoft. Not enough to change my mind on buying the PS5, but was the first time I'd even considered going Xbox. I kind of like the idea of the All Access deal that they've carried forward from Xbone, excellent for those with lower income or parents to spread cost. But also seems a little desperate in some ways to make up sales. I'll give Sony a week to announce something, then probably another week after that. And so on.

@KleebanKliban Firstly Nope not trolling, you assume that as I’m discussing the Xbox.. secondly I did not say that, I said some people who buy PS5’s will get the XSS too, now you made the mistake of assuming they was to play multiplats, no it would be to play exclusives, it may shock you to know not everyone has a gaming PC and not everyone hates Xbox exclusives like you must?

No matter how much you guys try and sugarcoat it, Sony has been pushed up hard against the walls. The new Sony administration has been hopeless. All the hype that PS has been riding on was set in motion by their predecessors. Of course, first party is still top notch. But imagine what they could've done with the hardware and financial backing of current MS.

@S1ayeR74 I dont know where to start. It's exhausting how much correction your comment needs. "Many many" is exactly what you said, possibly the opposite end of the spectrum from "some". Your assumptions about my false assumptions are ironically false, as are your assumptions about my opinions on exclusivity concerning Play Anywhere, PC gaming, and XB 1st party quality.

You can stop letting your insecurity surrounding PC releases make you paranoid. I dont PC game. PC releases of XB games make the games no less exclusive for a console gamer like myself. I dont hate XB exclusives though since 360 there is little to feel much at all about. I definitely never made the mistake of thinking that you understood the implications your comment made surrounding lack of 3rd party game interest for those with XBSS as secondary console.

Finally, it should be OBVIOUS, that if I am saying the gamers in your scenario are not buying XBSS for 3rd party.. I MUST expect 1st party content to be the purpose. It is baffling that you are accusing me of thinking these gamers dont want 1st or 3rd party games for their console.

Dude.. it's time for you to move on.

@AdamNovice But that’s assuming all those people will sell their PS4’s? Why would they? I think it’s more likely people would buy a PS5 and then a Series S, because they want to play exclusives on both platforms and don’t own modern PC’s, in fact with more people working from home I’d take a guess the only PC they have is their works computer, and they won’t want to play games on it.

@S1ayeR74 I'm not sure how you translate a Twitter sh*tstorm to a lack of interest..? People are very interested, just a bit fed up with waiting. And these days when people are mildly annoyed about something they start a rampage on social media.

@Flurpsel That is very true, they sure do create a storm, but that’s the problem as Sony should know and understand this, they need to try harder with their marketing.

@KleebanKliban I think it’s clear from your comment you lack the knowledge to understand the context of my post, bless, you clearly display this with your turn to using insults as opposed to a proper discussion.

We'll find out all the PS5 stuff soon enough. Can't understand the people that would switch platform just because they can't pre-order yet. Bizarre. A little bit of patience and perspective goes a looooong way.

Just for the record, Microsoft didn't intend to release any info until next week as confirmed by Phil Spencer, they only did it because someone leaked it first giving them no choice but to quickly come out. If Microsoft were planning to reveal next week then most likely Sony are as both companies would have had inside information. So people saying Microsoft beat them to it aren't strictly correct, if it wasn't for the leak we would still have no clue what a Series S was let alone when and how much it would go on sale for. Although I do think Sony and Microsoft should have told us when they were planning to announce new info in advance, instead of these random leaks and reveals we've been getting.

@S1ayeR74 I agree Sony should know better. I do think they have their reasons. A console laumch isnt something you do on a monday morning and I think covid has thrown around their plans a lot. Maybe they feel its better to say nothing than make promises they cant keep, because thats even more dangerous

@S1ayeR74 There goes my hero! Watch him as he goes!

@Truthhurts2 It is the same CPU as the series X with a slightly slower clock speed, it has a much smaller GPU which will do resolutions up to 1440p, it has 10gb RAM vs 16gb on the series x, it has less memory (512gb) and no disc drive.

Good lord, all this console war BS is still going on? What the hell? I do not get why people are so concerned about "fighting" for either brand, Xbox or PlayStation. I think you're all doing the consumer thing wrong, they should be fighting for us. Jeez.

Any way, Sony doing this PSVR thing has sent a message to a number of audiences, most notably developers... they ain't going anywhere in the VR space and are here to stay. We expect PSVR2 to be a "thing" and I think Sony being willing to continually push PSVR, and fund games like Iron Man is actually quite an important statement of intent. Sony have way more audiences than hardcore gamers, which ironically their launch line up for the PS5 shows beautifully.

As to PS5 news? Sony still have a lot they need to communicate. No arguments from me. Until very recently (yesterday) Microsoft were in the same boat. We need to see the promised teardown. The UI showcase we were promised. We need to see more gameplay from their games. We need to know what the launch games are... and of course the big ones, price and date. Could Sony give us all that info in one big blow out? Maybe they'll have too, because they're running out of time to drip feed it us. They do need to make a move soon though, because people are clearly turning sour.

@SegaBlueSky Anyone that claims they are going to switch consoles if it's not announced soon didn't plan on getting that console in the first place, or are just blowing hot air.

With this generation, your previous allegiance (and those of your friends) will likely carry forward even more than the previous generation since your existing library will carry forward. It would take a fairly large disruption on one side or the other to convince existing fans to switch sides this generation.

@SirAngry I agree with your sentiments about the BS, though it's not as simple as that.

The console that sells the most, that has the largest user base, is the console that attracts the most publishers and developers. Its the console that makes the most money for the platform holder, which provides larger war chests for that exclusive tug-of-war. Because of this, many will fight tooth and nail to convince everyone else that their platform is the best. Until all titles are released across all platforms (a Utopia we can only dream of!) this won't change.

@thedevilsjester it really is as simply as that. Both have marketing teams with hundreds of millions of dollars to splash on convincing people to buy there stuff. You and I argued over corporate strategy on an echo chamber of at best a couple thousand people is meaningless. Neither of us on here, are going to swing the needle in either sides favour in any way shape or form with our witty repartee, or amazing technical insight or rhetorical skill. Plus why should we? We're not being paid to do it, and I don't feel the need to justify my choices to others. Just don't get it.

@SirAngry Thats a common fallacy. Sure we are not going to swing the needle individually, but we add up. Hundreds of thousands of fans essentially advertising for Company X, will certainly move the needle. Mob mentality, for better or worse, is effective.

You know why MS changed their tune last generation? Because hundreds of thousands of fans let them know, either by voice, or by jumping platforms, that they were unhappy with what they were doing. This works both ways, though its more difficult to gather a mob to praise a product than it is to tear one down.

It's pretty important. Early PS3 years were terrible because of the negative press on the PS3 and the smaller user base. It took years to fix both of those problems and get more-or-less parity. Contrast that to the PS4 that was easily 2:1 out of the gate, and its night and day. Its an unfortunate reality.

@thedevilsjester I disagree, I just don't think it's ever moved the needle, it just causes pointless needle between people. As far as I'm concerned both systems will be well supported, both have advantages over the others, and it really does at the end of the day come down to more about what either company does, than how many people post negative or positive comments about either on Push Square, Reddit or wherever.