In the Busiest Gaming Month of the Year, PS5's Control Resonant Will Take Up a Lot of Your Time

They are putting it up against those games? When their games don't really sell well to begin with.

This will hurt sales imo.

I’m quite looking forward to this. Loved Control, and I’m hoping for more of the SCP style weirdness.

I really want to like this, but the muddy look of Control left me feeling really rather nauseous to be honest. There’s something about Remedy and their console rendering that really doesn’t work well for me at all.

So, I’m really into the lore and general story, but I’m crossing my fingers this doesn’t look like a smeared painting on PlayStation. As Control at times felt like I was playing a character that was under water, having mud thrown at them and then having blurred vision on top!

I know their rendering issues that caused this on the console, but I’m just not aware of what they’re doing with this game to avoid some of the issues I faced.

Anyway, looking forward to it, but going to need some more footage to be sure!

Also playtime seems like a bonus too! So good on them for that!

That's unfortunate. I thought Alan Wake 2 was too long already and became a real slog by the end

Why couldn't we just have games get released in June/July? it's annoying just how many games I want to get starting in August...

Resonant is definitely on my list. Not counting that worthless live service cash grab they put out, I’ve enjoyed every Remedy game I’ve ever played. I expect a great time with Resonant.

Actually 30-50 hours doesn’t seem very long to me. I think with the ballooning play times nowadays that’s fairly average for a AAA that’s has any kind of open map or exploration involved. Horror and very linear experiences are still in that 15-20 hour range sometimes, but those are becoming more rare

@Oram77 Personally, I've had a packed June/July.

@JustBusiness Agreed. They are setting themselves up for disaster. I like Control and this one looks great too but I have other priorities in this crammed release schedule. Feels like I’m not the only one based on my, albeit, limited view

30 hours is too many... I mean, it's not inherently bad. But I still think 8-15 hours is the ideal range for almost every game.

@RoomWithaMoose Which games? genuinely asking, mine were Black Fland & Halo.

I must have done Control wrong because it must have taken me 25 hours, at least!

@Th3solution Unless they've massively changed tack on this cousin, Control was as linear a '90s-like' game as you could get. I really hope they haven't gone for the more-more-more (needless fluff) just to pad it out.

Control was fantastic! Hopeful thatvthis is as well.

@Oram77 Mostly Switch stuff. Star Fox, Rhythm Heaven, Splatoon. But also Halo and Denshattack (couldn't afford, actually, but do want). Also would've bought Avatar, DoA, and/or Elliot if it was a slow year. And I was eyeing Gothic and SolarPunk, but I think I would've skipped both regardless.

Maybe depends how you define "packed." All I know is I feel overwhelmed.

Forty-five hours here, I just checked. I took my time, really drank in the atmosphere and environment, the DLCs and all of those trophies too. I probably spent at least an hour in that in-game room listening to My Dark Disquiet playing until I finally put the controller down and added it to Spotify. A lot of time was spent going over all of the similarities to the book too. Sam Lake based so much of the game on my favorite novel by Mark Z. Danielewski. I didn't know that going in, what followed was hours of 'why does this all feel familiar'. And nights of talking to people through spoiler tags to explain all of the deeper hidden meanings between the two.

That one book influenced everything from the dialogue to the lighting. That red/blue lighting is the same as the red/blue ink in the book, it was an incredible journey, one missed by a lot of people because they weren't aware of the novel to begin with.

I know Alan Wake is also influenced by the same author, the song Haunted, that's his sister. I found the song so long ago right after moving to England, then the book, years later the game, all three added something to my life at the time, the game is where it all really came together, it's a masterpiece. Especially when you see all of those pieces coming together to form the big picture.

Seems long for this kind of game. Probably won’t jump in during Sept then.

I do jot consider Control a 10 hr game. Maybe its possible to mainline campaign in that time but it would be such a waste playing in that manner.
Control is a great game so hoping for good things from Resonant

@ButteredCrumpet Just out of interest, which console did you play it on? I played through on the PS4 Pro and it looked and ran great on that?

@lindos I really disagree, I wouldn't call it open world but certainly not as linear as it gets. There's a ton of side missions & backtracking, that's like saying any Metroid game is linear. A linear intended path, sure, but several things to do or find if you explore some.

@madmaxrules Sounds to me like you did it right! 👍

"rethink some of your September gaming" - My September gaming will be whatever backlog game I'm working on from 1-2+ years ago, as usual. If this gets good reviews it will go on my wishlist to be played in a year or more from now. The patient gamers lifestyle

Gives me prototype vibes. All over this.

@ButteredCrumpet Alan Wake 2 was one of the best looking games I've seen on my PS5, easily top 5, I don't even have to think about it that hard. Not sure what you mean about control bc I started it on base PS4 then finished it on PS5 (I was late to the game) but I thought it looked fantastic on both platforms.

This, Wolverine and Dune are my buys of that insanely busy month.

This looks great but I've yet to properly play the first, and I'm holding out for Onimusha and Dawnwalker reviews.

Ridiculous release strategy, instead of release a distinctly different game near GTA6, release it in a stacked month with games that share an audience.

If I go for anything in September, it’ll be Control. Spoiled for choice this year. And hopefully there will be a lot of discounting of other things once GTA 6 lands.

@sanderson72 @yohn777 Aye up!

I played it on the base PS5 at the time, and I think there’s something about the FSR and framerate that really knocked me off liking it.

As I then played it on my work PC (out of sheer frustration), and found it to be so much better.

Same for that game they released on Xbox, for the life of me can’t think of the name of it now, Quantum something maybe?!

Horrendous FSR implementation to the point it felt just muddy somehow.

I think I’m just too high up on my pedestal to sacrifice some things, but then I totally get others won’t be impacted or see it. Something about my mind just couldn’t process it right at all.

Which I know sounds odd given the great time clearly many had with it on console, I just think Remedy and FSR don’t work for my mind at all.

The whole thing really confused me at the time, as I’m not remotely a demanding gamer by choice at all, yet for some reason Remedy’s games really feel like they chug along for me on console, visually speaking.

Alan Wake 2 for example, it wasn’t a great experience for me, yet really got through it for the story.

Their entire development seems to just rely on a lot of grunt work and far less in the optimisation part of things. So it’s no surprise my PC was such a stark difference.

But I do hope I feel different about this next game they release, I really do.

My partner on the other hand (who’s not a Dev like me and likes cozy games and shooters), didn’t see any issue like the both of you.

So I think my eye is just trained to pickup on problems to the point where I need a bar to be hit maybe. Who knows?!

Never had these issues with other developers work though in recent memory.

One of my most anticipated games of the year. Love Remedy.

This game will wildly underperform at launch. There is no way the majority are picking this over other titles. I feel like some of these companies need to figure out better release strategies.

@RoomWithaMoose 8 hours for a AAA game is way too short. I would say 15-20 is the range that feels respected.

30 hours for an action game is out of the norm. I hope they nailed the basic combat and have enough enemies as well mission variations for 30 hours...

@ButteredCrumpet Thanks for the reply Mr. Dev. I just looked up Control Ultimate Edition (PS5 version), it does not use or natively support FSR. Also at launch on PS5 the worst frame drops were in the 3 - 5 range, which weren't common, just checked on Digital Foundry's video of it they did years ago. So... if you don't like it on console I'm not gonna try to convince you but I think most people wouldn't agree with your points you tried to make.
I do remember Alan Wake 2 having FSR implementation issues for a few months after launch but those got fixed. Again, it's not in Control at all so I'm not sure what you're alluding to.

@yohn777 Okay then, thanks for at least doing Remedy’s work for them and preventing anyone from having a view or experience different to your own.

I assumed it was FSR for base on PS5 as it looked horrendous. However, my idea of horrendous and yours will differ.

Forgot this was not actually a discussion board but an opinion that has to mimic others board.

And yes, Alan Wake 2 did run like utter trash on PS5 to begin with. And no, I’m not waiting months for a game to improve like wine with age.

People are paid to ship a game in full, not in parts I have to wait to complete like a jigsaw 5 months later.

God people defend everything but a unique opinion on this site.

Talk about a negatively framed headline! God good.

@For-Kier I much prefer a short and sweet 6 hour game to a padded out 20-30 hour game. AAA, or otherwise.

I don't mind the occasional 50 hour open world or RPG, but I don't think many games are better for being lengthy. Nor do I really consider length an aspect of quality.

@ButteredCrumpet Lol, okay? Chill out dude I was mostly stating facts. You're allowed to think whatever you want, I literally said I won't try to convince you. Tbh it just sounds like you're mad that you were wrong about something so you felt the need to lash out for some reason. My reply was 100% genuine, the "Mr. Dev" was just because I thought it was funny that you capitalized the first letter of dev as if it was your name.
So, uh, bye I guess? 👍🏽

I enjoyed Control, especially the game mechanics and powers, but am I the only one who got burnt out on the environment? The entire setting was the Oldest House. From what I have read, the sequel is opening up more (you may even leave the building), so that is an automatic improvement in my opinion.

@Stevemalkpus I actually have a soft spot for anything mainly set in the same environment all the way through, and I'm not sure why. Think Die Hard, The Raid, Control, Arkham Asylum etc.

More like 80 hours for us slow-as-hell gamers

Meanwhile I am 82 hours into Persona 3 reload and am sitting on 007 to play next. I'll get control at some point as loved the first. It may need to wait a bit though with wolverine and GTA on the horizon which will likely take my time until FF7 pt 3 in Feb

Would have preferred a shorter game but I'm still very excited for this! Have my physical copy pre-ordered 🥳

CR is a day one, which I don’t do too often anymore. Control is one of the best games in the past 10 years imo. I am disappointed CR is supposed to be 30-50h, since Control took me at least 20-25h (likely much longer than that) to beat. But I’m sure I’ll love every minute.

Not a fan of Control, I found the setting and gameplay to be boring.

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This is probably the game I'll choose to pick up out of all of them. These devs are crazy for not delaying some of these. They probably all will be good, but you cant buy them all.

A 3hr game can still be a slog if you're not enjoying it. I don't know why some folk are scared off long games, there's no deadline for you to beat it, it's your own fomo being in a hurry to play other new games.

@Rob_230 Good news (maybe) about 007 is that it’s only like a 15h game. I 100%ed it in one weekend.

@TheArt I like playing games. I'd prefer to not play 1 game that got tiresome after 10 hours in the time I could've played 12.

It has MUCH less to do with fomo over new games and everything to do with actively wanting to play hundreds of games throughout gaming history simultaneously while only having precious little time to play any.

They are sadly going to lose money on this one.

They struggle to break even as it is.

Now you have the double trouble of going up against other games, and worst of all the game being a sequel to Control means that you have a not particularly massive potential audience to begin with, and a lot of those people have dropped off or lost interest.

Hope I'm wrong but this one will come and go with a whimper and blow a hole in their finances unless it was very cheap to produce.

For me personally, I like their games in general, and it's not even about the money. 30 hours of my busy life is the real price.... nah sorry no.

@wilky2988 Great news! I am increasingly becoming appreciative of shorter compact titles! 😄

@RoomWithaMoose Fair enough for wanting to play hundreds of short different games, same way some people also love to play a few long games and save money.

@TheArt I guess.

I'm not saying people can't play and enjoy long games. I just don't think games often benefit from being so long.

Even for those that can't afford many games and just want stuff to play, there's a lot of forever games they could be playing instead. Many of which are free to some extent.

@lindos I recall having some freedom to approach the missions with some variance. It’s been a while since I played it so my memory may be a little off, but I recall there being more than one place you can go sometimes and there was little emergent activities that would pop up and you had the option to chase down if you wanted. Missions were scripted in certain orders but a few things could be done in whatever order you wanted, and there was some openness to how you wandered around The Oldest House (I certainly remember getting lost in it a fair few times). I think some of the missions and areas were optional, if I’m not mistaken, but maybe I’m wrong. I recall for example that I played the 2 DLC’s without even knowing they were the DLC until later, as they could be just mixed in during the course of exploration optionally.

It was definitely more linear than say, Ghost of Tsushima or something with a true open world, but I don’t think it was as linear as a Resident Evil or even an Uncharted or a BioShock. Maybe it felt more open to me because the narrative was less concrete and left a lot more for a wandering interpretation.

Oof that release schedule. Remedy has good creatives but bad biz dev people, imho

AWESOME 👏🏼 let’s get Resonant

No I'll not be picking that game up but U forgot about another big game that month which is onimusha way of the sword which I'm really looking forward to

I like the idea of this game, altering where gravity is, but I the enemies and ways to attack look like they get repetitive fast. It could be just early videos though. I may get it later down the line.on a sale

@YourNameHere I thought I was the only one as I found it boring as well

@Oram77 they don't release games in June/July because this is the time of year people go on holidays,school holidays etc

@Rob_230 what about onimusha way of the sword

@Hyena_socks yeah onimusha looks amazing plus the PS2 version of onimusha dawn of dreams is coming as well.its not a remaster like the 2st 2 as it'll be on premium classics so no trophies

Silent hill has a lot to live up 2 as the silent hill 2 rake was scary and brilliant and silent hill f was just downright creepy and ***** up.japanese sure know how to make a creepy horror game

It looks interesting and all those videos games coming up is going to be a lot of competition. Word up son

I am eagerly waiting and pre-ordered Mortal Shell II.... although of course Control sounds delicious as well...

@Rocky1972 will absolutely have to fit Onimusha in. Onimusha 3 was one of my favourite PS2 games

Remedy is really good, but not as genius as lots of high brow video game essayists would want you to believe. Similarly overstated as arkane, irrational and the likes. The stuff content creators sell as the thinking man's games.

I'll be all in slashing through Onimusha 3.

@Rob_230 they were all good apart from that terrible fighting game 😂

Dont worry Remedy, i will be the one that will buy this game and im freaking love Control and both alan wake. Spend so much time on control because the addictive gameplay. Love it and the remedyverse lore is damn fun for me.

@Dogbreath i mean sorry no offense. Your last statement kinda lame to me. What’s wrong with a longer game? It’s not like you have to finish the game in 2 day lol? You bought the game, it’s up to you to play and finish it whenever and wherever you want to.

Absolutely ridiculous that gamers now get upset by more games coming out. Who would have thought we would end up here?

@amatmulisha my premise is that time is money, and e.g. on a UK average salary, the amount of time investment required to see the all important story (in a Remedy game), is 10x the direct monetary cost of the game.

So playing this game is very expensive at 30 hours (given the type of game it is and trying to fit it in between other games) when for example Uncharted 4 takes half that time at ~15 hours.

Did you feel short changed with Uncharted 4? Nope, because it was concentrated goodness all the way, zero bloat, well paced and respected your time.

Would someone want to pump 30 hours into a Control sequel during a busy release period?

Let's find out when the sales figures come in....

To me this game being 30 hours is like an episode of The Office being 3 hours. Like how? It's excessive and the quality will be diluted for filler and I could spend my time on something better. That's a bigger barrier than the price tag.

This is my most anticipated game for the rest of the year. I'm also very excited for Wolverine but Control is my number 1

I pre-ordered it a month ago, and I can't wait to play Control Resonant. It's shaping up to be Remedy's biggest and most ambitious game yet.

Everything we've seen so far suggests it won't be a repetitive grind. Instead, it offers a huge variety of enemies, surprising plot twists, stunning art direction, an incredible soundtrack, and plenty of side missions. Early impressions have been overwhelmingly positive.

It's already looking like a strong GOTY contender. Yet somehow, some people are complaining that they'll have to enjoy this masterpiece for too long. If that's really your biggest complaint, maybe this game just isn't for you.

Already preordered a physical copy.
And not on PS5, they won’t see my money anymore.