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@james_games

That’s a shame. It’s worked most of the time for me. Barring one of the Lego games to my eldest boys regular annoyance 😀

@james_games

I think if you trade up you’re always going to be looking across at the other side and feel like you’re missing something. Both are really good systems with lots to offer. I prefer using the Series X for Quick Resume and the better (IMO) UI. Game pass and the extensive BC means I’ve got a lot of variety installed. But that’s background really. If you’re choosing it really comes down to games.

@james_games

I’m similar to you in that I got a Series X first and picked up a PS5 in July, trading in my PS4 Pro. I wanted to play Rift Apart and Astros Playroom along with being able to play the Spider-Man games, Sackboy, Ghost of Tsushima and Ratchet and Clank 2016 in the best available quality. It’s a bit of a stretch for me to justify the cost, especially in the middle of a spate of Xbox releases I want to play, but I like shiny things and usually buy all the major systems.

If you aren’t bothered about any of the exclusives I honestly wouldn’t bother. More will be along at some point. If that’s the case PS5 doesn’t have a lot to offer over the SX/GP combination. If you haven’t got much on Series X and are thinking of swapping over completely that might be worth it.

A real shame. PES has overtaken FIFA again since 2015 in terms of playing a good game of football, though it lacks the glitz and glamour of FIFA. This is especially true in single player. This feels like the end now. FIFA or nothing.

@sanderson72

I can see the logic in reducing the PS4 but like I say I don’t think it’s a big priority for them. It could be that the transistor shortage is hindering production/pushing up production cost. But even if not I’d say the goal is to not be left with inventory. They could ramp up production and drop the price only to find demand isn’t there. Instead they’ve got a vast existing PS4 Userbase along with new PS5 owners to sell their games to.

@sanderson72 @outsider83

Don’t think Sony are fussed about selling PS4s. They don’t want to making many when they’re struggling to get PS5s in the shops, and they can sell PS4 games to PS5 owners anyway.

@Kidfried

Somebody who floated a company valued at $145m in 2018 and has just seen sell it for $1.3 billion 😉

I don’t know what his shares are worth but I suspect he said that quote live from a swimming pool full of money.

@get2sammyb

True, especially as-and I didn’t know this-they’d gone public in 2018.

This feels like bad news. I’ve no evidence for that yet but just a bad vibe. They’ve done lots of great work all the way from Outrun 2006 on PS2 and Virtua Tennis on PSP through Sonic Racing Transformed and to Sackboy which is a fantastic game.

@BerryD @BAMozzy

I’m not complaining about it. I just think their margins will be lower on the Digital because that £90 difference isn’t accounted for by the Blu Ray. I think that’s one of the reasons it’s so scarce, even though (theoretically, though that’s complicated) potentially they stand to make more on software. I think the system is fairly priced for what it is (I still have the receipt for my PS1, bought shortly after launch-£550 in today’s money!).

@BerryD

Stand-alone players do, but internal drives that can read UHD Discs don't.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-BU40N-ARAA10B-Ultra-Slim-Internal-Blu-Ray/dp/B071CPRK74

I’d love to see a new Vita, basically a portable PS4, especially if it was supported properly. However I can understand why Sony aren’t interested.

First, although handheld gaming remains a big market there probably isn’t much space for competition to Nintendo. Second, how do they make it work? If it’s a totally different system it needs two software streams which splits resources. If it’s close enough to a portable PS4 to make porting easy, are people going to rebuy their PS4 games? Or if they can use their existing (digital) games how does the handheld make money?

@Titntin

Of course there are more than one reasons to buy a second Controller, they have more than one use (like rechargeables). I was specifically replying to the comments of “ And I can list a lot of reasons why someone would buy 2 controllers. First reason being to not have to worry about having to stop playing a game to charge their controller cause it's low on battery.” followed by “ I'll take 2 $70 controllers over buying a crap ton of batteries and save money.” Also post #43, same user. As I say, plenty of reasons but to avoid charging is not a good one.

@Titntin

Your link backs up what I said-

“ "[The deal is] for OEM to supply the battery product for the Xbox consoles and also the controllers' battery”

I said “ They have a deal with Duracell to supply the batteries in the box, that’s all.”

There’s not a lot controversial there. That isn’t the reason they continue to use AAs, it’s just the option that gives consumers greater flexibility, especially with Battery Packs carrying over from Controller to Controller as well as the batteries themselves.

Rechargeable is definitely the most environmentally friendly option. Decent rechargeables last ages and take away the risk (as some have alluded to) that a Controller with a dead battery just gets binned because of the difficulty/cost of replacing a proprietary one.

I understand others have different preferences, totally on board with that. I just disagree that proprietary batteries are in any way an advance (same with proprietary cables for example). Just because the industry says they are (because profit) doesn’t make it true.

@Nepp67

“ I'll take 2 $70 controllers over buying a crap ton of batteries and save money.”

Just buying another Controller in case your first one runs out of charge is amazingly uneconomical.

I just looked on Amazon U.K. and a Dualsense is £55.59 while a Battery Charger with 4 decent rechargeable batteries is £19.83

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08H99BPJN/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_6HSQNDNCBGAKR83FFVDD

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00RZD32EG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_P42QPNF9MDHGQ1TR7AWQ

@Titntin

They have a deal with Duracell to supply the batteries in the box, that’s all.

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/318995-microsoft-denies-cutting-secret-deal-with-duracell-over-xbox-controllers

And using AAs isn’t polluting at all. You just buy rechargeables, which given the flexibility is the least polluting option.

Good to see Spencer again being very sensible about the competition and looking to see where they can learn (and steal things) rather than getting defensive.
Series X Controllers are great, there’s a reason they refined rather than innovated and that’s because they already had so much right.

Dualsense is a big step forward for Sony though, in two ways. The extra features are really interesting and worthwhile, and it’s also a big improvement in shape and feel over the dire DS4. Shame about the proprietary battery mind you, the industry really needs to grow out of that.

Hahahaha wow. EA must think their customers are absolute mugs.

@Eldritch777

I’ve got both as well, and a Switch. I hope MS catch up, the best scenario for consumers is all three platform holders having 33% of the market each. Not everyone might agree if they’re overly emotional about a plastic box of electronics sold by a Multinational corporation that just wants their money, but it’s true.

@BAMozzy

Post 73 is just superb. Very nicely put. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

(Rubs eyes)

(Blinks)

(Looks at bottle of whiskey in paper bag)

(Throws bottle away)

I thought this was known for a while. Game looks good but I’ll wait until next year and get it on SX/Gamepass.

@UltimateOtaku91

“ the need for all 3 consoles to enjoy the games you used to love all being on one console.”

It’s always been the case that you needed more than one system to play all the good games in a generation.

In terms of sales momentum no it’s probably not needed. They’re shifting every system they can sell. Possibly in terms of keeping the hardcore sweet, yes they should have gone for it but then the hardcore probably know the games will come, even if Sony are doing some irritating things recently. A summer showcase should be setting up the rest of the year and showing what’s coming. The issue might be that they have shown what’s coming. If there isn’t much to show you can’t show it.

Well, finally got myself a PS5 reserved at Argos but that State of Play doesn’t make me want to rush down there and pick it up 😀 Much more I’m looking forward to on Series X and Switch later this year. Thankfully there’s enough already out to justify it. Jett looked interesting.

Undeniably a great show and Game Pass is (currently) phenomenal value. I’m not sure how much of a threat it is to Sony though, the whole Xbox strategy is designed to not have them as much in direct competition than they used to be. They may well chip away at Sony’s Console sales and revenue, and it isn’t a great time for Sony to be trying to push up the price of games, but Sony are still in a very strong position.

The good news for everyone is that competition is A Good Thing. Having Xbox and Nintendo in better shape than with XB1 and Wii U will help keep Sony on their toes.

Always nice to see. It really makes me smile that the guys at the top who have careers riding on the success of these Consoles are much nicer to each other than the people who hand over their hard earned to pay the Execs wages.

Maybe ‘lied’ is harsh but they were certainly misleading, or disingenuous, or ‘economical with the actualite.’

The issue isn’t that these games are cross-gen. For all the fuss about exclusives I think most Console early adopters grasp that a lot of the attraction early on is playing the best version of games rather than completely exclusive games. Plus it makes total business sense and these are businesses after all.

It just looks a bit off because the intention was clearly to use ‘believing in generations’ as a sales driver and a stick to beat the other guy with. That interview was at a point where Xbox was getting a lot of stick for making the sensible decision to support last-gen systems where possible.

That quote was picked up on by the more fanatical elements of the Playstation fanbase and used as bait, while Sony were vague about what platforms games were going to be on. As a result the impression was given that PS5 was all about new exclusives while Series S/X were just playing d games. To those who follow this stuff closely (which isn’t the mass market BTW) it doesn’t look good. What else will they be vague/disingenuous/misleading about?

To me personally it’s not as big a problem as me not being able to get hold of a bloody PS5 but there’s no denying it stinks a bit.

Seems Sony continue to move away from what I used to like about them. They used to put out a lot of interesting, quirky stuff alongside the odd big hitter and of course the masses of third-party games. But then the lack of a handheld and the amount of coin the big Western blockbusters are making them leaves little room for that. Ho him. A shame for me personally, and I hope they’re not making the same mistakes MS did around 2010-13, but I understand business is business.

@SLitz1979

Same to you sir. Best wishes.

@SLitz1979

Thanks for the reply. I took the plunge a few days ago when there was a discount code on Ebay U.K. Only managed to play it for a half hour but from what I’ve seen it does indeed look and run great on the Pro 👍

This looks great. Anyone got any feedback on how it runs on PS4 Pro?

That’s going to happen now isn’t it? That’ll be a building in Manchester or Berlin or somewhere in 10 years.

@doctommaso

True. Fair point.

@MidnightDragonDX @doctommaso

😆 Wanting better value for your money as a Consumer is not ‘being entitled’

@Mikey856

That’s where competition is great for the Consumer. Sony fell into the Corporate Arrogance trap after PS1 and PS2, they were awful at the start of the PS3 gen. Then they had to rethink when they had the rug pulled from under them and became all consumer friendly. Microsoft had a disastrous first few years of XB1 and are now looking for another way to pick up Customers and Revenue, undercutting Sony in lots of ways.

Nothing wrong with that, Consumers can benefit from Companies deciding they need to be Consumer Friendly (whatever the motivation). If they chose to stick to one ‘side’ that’s being less so, that’s their call.

@AyanamiReign

It’s not just Microsoft, it’s something the PC Community has taken for granted for years. It would be nice to see it come to the Console Space either but a lot of Console Gamers seem to be stuck on ‘how things have always been done’ and not how things can change.

On its own it’s a poor show, a bit cheap, but not the end of the world. It just looks bad next to Xbox but Nintendo don’t offer free upgrades (or free anything). The issue is that hopefully it isn’t a sign of an incoming dose of the Corporate Arrogance that affects every platform holder when they’re on top.

“ we had hoped that Half-Life: Alyx would eventually make its way to a hypothetical next-gen PSVR headset, but then we suppose Newell’s personal preferences wouldn’t exactly prevent that from happening anyway.”

Of course it won’t. They’re a business. If there’s money to be made they’ll chase it.

@Juanalf

Or it could just he thinks the Xbox is better, and there isn’t a Conspiracy there. Crazy, I know....

More of this kind of thing would definitely attract some people back to bricks and mortar games shopping

Hmmm. Actually judging from the large number of childish and aggressive replies maybe this site judges it’s audience pretty well.

What an unnecessarily catty article. Can we not leave the Console Wars nonsense in the school playground?

@TheIronChimp @Paranoimia

It’s weird how things ebb and flow though. I went from Amstrad CPC and epic load times (not even guaranteed to work), then one of the big selling points of SNES and MD was instant loading cartridges. Then it was all about the massive storage of CD and who cares about loading times and now Console gamers are downloading, installing and updating like PC Gamers. Be funny to see it switch back to ‘instant loading! The future is here!’

This is actually more attractive to me than better graphics, which is suffering a bit from diminishing returns IMHO. Time is of the essence.

“Well GTA V being top is a real shock”

Said no-one ever, anywhere

Well deserved too. This is what happens when you do pretty much everything right.

@rjejr

Assuming it’s the same as on Xbox it’s downloads

Puffys Saga reboot or bust!

There’s a reason EA go first at E3. Things can only improve from here 😉