I don't think they'll do much. Worldwide they're cleaning up and have a ton of great exclusives still to come on PS4 that will drive sales. The next two years are harvest time for Sony.
Sony got it dead right into the UK from the start. They were the first of the platform holders to not treat the UK like an afterthought, putting lots of effort into marketing and courting retail and the press. Nintendo didn't even handle their own distribution until 2002. They don't stand a chance now.
It's the UK. As @Mahe points out, even Knack (worldwide sales estimated at 1.87m) managed to outsell Mario 3D World (worldwide sales 5.7 million) in the first week they were out in the UK. Nintendo have always struggled in the UK mainly down to their own mismanagement. Switch seems to be doing a bit better though.
The PS4 selection is improving as the system gets older, naturally enough. Still, given I don't play online much and when I do it seems to be on other systems I'm probably going to let my Plus lapse when it runs out next year. Games are so cheap anyway these days if you wait until a few weeks after launch it isn't worth it.
I really hope they don't stop. Why stick your head in the sand? Even though I avoid them like the plague it's still good to know stuff like this is going on.
Definitely agree with those saying the second one is better by (input lag notwithstanding) anyone who hasn't played this should have really good fun with it.
Pleased to see this getting recognition. I gather the MP is nothing special but I don't play multiplayer anyway. It's funny that after being bored of FPS games for a few years I've played 2 this year (Doom and Titanfall 2) that have absolutely captured my attention. Putting aside debates about technical aspects or structure this is the one I've had slightly more fun with. Great game.
Been playing this on a 4K, non-HDR screen and it's fantastic. So are Shadows of Mordor, Rez infinite, Infamous First Light and TLOU. Far better than on the original PS4. Some devs seem to be doing better than others.
I understand the logic I just think it's unnecessarily restrictive. Put a warning up that the game may not run properly and loading it up is at users risk, and ask if the user wants to run it using Original or Pro settings. If it doesn't work the user knows to use Original settings next time. Word of unstable games will quickly spread online.
This is supposed to be a Pro system for the high end PS4 user. Trust them to decide, it's better than the current situation where (like on a few other things) Sony users are looking across at Microsoft and thinking 'if they can do it....'
"I am also a bit disappointed at Sony's decision to downclock the GPU and presumably the CPU too when playing non-patched games"
Same here. Seems an odd decision to me. Why not give punters the choice, a simple Setting to run PS4 games using Original or Pro settings, with a disclaimer that it may not enhance the gameplay experience (similar to the options and warning they gave users playing PS1 games on PS3). Trust your customers.
Yes, got one after not being bothered for a while. Had a bit of a faff with the System Transfer (witnessed up my Activations) but Sony sorted that over the phone. I have a 4K TV without HDR and it's a good improvement. Shadows of Mordor, Infamous First Light and Ratchet and Clank all look great. It's quieter than my Original console and download speeds seem quicker. Aiming to try the improved Remote Play later and very tempted by Rez Infinite. Its not an earth-shattering life changer but it's a very worthwhile upgrade.
Sega went crazy in the 90s, releasing two add-ons for the Megadrive then ditching the lot for the Saturn.
I'm not sure this is the same situation, in fact this doesn't really have a comparison that springs to mind. A mid-generation refresh that maintains compatibility is a new thing.
The problem with Sega's updates was they had their own library and their own exclusives, which shouldn't happen with PS4. I'm not convinced it will be a runaway success (to aim at a niche market-4K TV owners-and leave out the 4K BluRay capability is a very odd decision) but it's going to be interesting to see what happens. If it is successful it could set a precedent
Not compared to what I've seen and every review I've read. Especially with the Atmos update incoming it's a good player and an excellent value proposition. However for your original attempt to deflect criticism from Sony (by bizarrely claiming anybody who is 'that into' 4K BluRay should buy a standalone) to work at all, you need that to be true. So carry on telling yourself that.
I have a 4K TV from 2015 with no HDR. Will the Pro make a difference? I have the XB1S and 4K Blu-rays are a clear improvement, Pro has to impress me with the games.
"Who on earth still buys 4k discs at £20 and more a shot?" People who want the best quality picture. Streaming is convenient but for a lot of people bandwidth is an issue. If you're going to pay for a big 4K TV and want to watch a film you may as well do it properly. It's a niche of course, most of the mass market will be happy with a compromise (like buying a Blu Ray player and watching DVDs on it, or the people who used to run PS2-era consoles through the bundled AV Cables) but there are people who want the best and are willing to pay for it. Seems like a real oversight for Sony to ignore these people by releasing a console specifically designed to compliment 4K TVs but that doesn't properly support 4K video.
No. I'll be getting an Xbox One S. I'm probably quite unusual in that I have some digital XB1 games I want access to (I sold my original XB1 to help pay for a couple of trips away) but I'd have reached the same conclusion anyway. I have a 4K TV so the UHD Blu-ray drive is a major factor as the best way to show it off and if I'm going to spend money on another console. I am has well get one that upscaled games I can't get on PS4 rather than games I already have.
Also, if incremental console updates is the way forward I'm more and more thinking I'll get a gaming PC in a couple of years. I'll also have a look at NX whenever Nintendo deign to let it's potential customers know what it is.
Might go for this at a decent price. My motion sickness has always made it difficult for me to play these but a smooth 60fps could give me a chance. I appreciate I have a particular set of circumstances but at least somebody is excited about another remaster.
Personally I think it's pretty underwhelming. If others are happy great but there's not a lot for me. At least it seems to have stopped people crying about Killzone for a few weeks.
The similarity to something else was the original rejection in mid-January. It has now been rejected because, rightly, 'Lets Play' has been deemed descriptive. You can see here what Sony were trying to Trademark....
Oh no, its happening again. Whichever company has the lead in this industry very quickly catches a heavy dose of corporate arrogance. Stupid from Sony and I hope losing cost them a lot of money.
Very pleased to hear this. It works great on the XB1 and has seen me using that machine a lot more than the PS4 recently. I doubt it will ever match the Wii U gamepad for Speed and consistency but its a great option.
Played it on EA Access and its dreadful. These reviews are very kind. Fifth best racing game I've played this gen, out of 5 (Mario Kart 8, Drive Club, Forza Horizon 2 and NFS Rivals are all better).
"Open world racing games are the worst". Oh how I agree with this. Loved all the Burnouts until Paradise, where instead of taking part in super fast races with spectacular crashes I was now driving. From A to B. I can do that in the real world anytime thanks very much (except I usually have a clear idea where I'm going and how to get there, unlike in Paradise/Most Wanted).
I thought I was alone in thinking this. It's a side-effect of the industry catering so keenly for teenage boys. As an adult with a job, a wife and a child I simply don't have enough gaming time to be spending hours wandering around a game looking for something to do. Too many games take a 'never mind the quality, feel the width' approach when some people need their quality gaming more concentrated.
I'm guessing you already know about these but for those who don't and have a similar interest, a lot of old games magazines are available to download from....
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Re: PlayStation Store Sales Charts: Monster Hunter: World Dominates in Western Territories
@PS_Nation
That cash in Street Fighter game on the Switch did bogglingly well too. Good times for Capcom.
Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4, PS4 Pro Continue to Sell Well Over the Holidays
@themcnoisy
I don't think they'll do much. Worldwide they're cleaning up and have a ton of great exclusives still to come on PS4 that will drive sales. The next two years are harvest time for Sony.
Re: Japanese Sales Charts: PS4, PS4 Pro Continue to Sell Well Over the Holidays
@Mahe
"Enjoy what you like, but don't try to make it something it isn't."
Ok, you stop trying to make out the Switch is struggling or its software line up is 'garbage' then.
"But when you make excuses for the NS, you are a Nintendo apologist."
Hahaha. Rationality has left the building.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Crash Bandicoot Climbs the List for Christmas
@Derpie1
They're not that badly off. Not even close. 😉
Re: UK Sales Charts: Crash Bandicoot Climbs the List for Christmas
@Derpie1
Sony got it dead right into the UK from the start. They were the first of the platform holders to not treat the UK like an afterthought, putting lots of effort into marketing and courting retail and the press. Nintendo didn't even handle their own distribution until 2002. They don't stand a chance now.
Re: PS4 Users Angry After Destiny 2 Advert Appears on Main System Menu
Yeah I saw it. I just ignored it. Crazy, I know.
Re: UK Sales Charts: Crash Bandicoot Climbs the List for Christmas
@jgrangervikings1
It's the UK. As @Mahe points out, even Knack (worldwide sales estimated at 1.87m) managed to outsell Mario 3D World (worldwide sales 5.7 million) in the first week they were out in the UK. Nintendo have always struggled in the UK mainly down to their own mismanagement. Switch seems to be doing a bit better though.
Re: Guide: All Free PS Plus Games in 2017
The PS4 selection is improving as the system gets older, naturally enough. Still, given I don't play online much and when I do it seems to be on other systems I'm probably going to let my Plus lapse when it runs out next year. Games are so cheap anyway these days if you wait until a few weeks after launch it isn't worth it.
Re: Nearly 80,000 People Have Signed a Petition to Revoke EA's Star Wars License
People can sign the petition and not buy it. It's not an either/or.
Re: Feature: DriveClub Is An Alternative to Gran Turismo Sport Worth Considering
The Bikes expansion is superb
Re: Microtransactions Are Being Implemented in the Scariest of Ways
@Tasuki
I really hope they don't stop. Why stick your head in the sand? Even though I avoid them like the plague it's still good to know stuff like this is going on.
Re: Site News: Gran Turismo Sport PS4 Review - Where's Our Verdict?
If you haven't got access to Forza it's worth a buy, if you have it probably isn't.
Thats also if you can put up with the utterly ludicrous requirement to be Online to save your progress. Head-bangingly stupid, that.
Re: There Will Be People Who Think This Sonic Forces Gameplay Is Good
Come on, we've had one good Sonic game this year. You're lucky if you get two good ones in a decade, so two in a year isn't going to happen.
Re: Review: Everybody's Golf (PS4)
Bah. Always been a big fan of the series (the Vita version is perfection) but the balancing issues do sound very off-putting (wahey!) to me.
Re: Feature: 41 PS2 Classics That Must Come to PS4
Some great choices there. Please somebody get Sega to make Outrun 2006 and Monkey Ball to happen on modern tech.
However, sorry, wrong Burnout IMHO. Both 2 and Legends were superior.
Re: New Everybody's Golf Trailer Outlines Absolutely Everything
Graphics schmaphics. This will be brilliant.
Re: Sony's Scored an Own Goal with This Ugly Limited Edition PS4 Controller
If it was actually a footballer it would be William Prunier. Or Jason Lee
Re: Review: Patapon Remastered (PS4)
Definitely agree with those saying the second one is better by (input lag notwithstanding) anyone who hasn't played this should have really good fun with it.
Re: PS4 Pro's Boost Mode Is Proving to Be Quite the Beast
Was asking for this from the start so great to see it added and making a difference
Re: Sony's Dropping PlayStation Now on All Devices Apart from PS4, PC
They could have tried dropping the prices before binning support for a load of formats
Re: Game of the Year 2016: #8 - DOOM
Pleased to see this getting recognition. I gather the MP is nothing special but I don't play multiplayer anyway. It's funny that after being bored of FPS games for a few years I've played 2 this year (Doom and Titanfall 2) that have absolutely captured my attention. Putting aside debates about technical aspects or structure this is the one I've had slightly more fun with. Great game.
Re: Reaction: Sony Puts on a Perfectly Paced PSX 2016 Presser Packed with PlayStation Goodness
@Wesker
I just ignored @waluigifan1 as I assume he's on a wind up trying to get attention.
Re: Reaction: Sony Puts on a Perfectly Paced PSX 2016 Presser Packed with PlayStation Goodness
Great show.
I've never been so pleased to see another bunch of remasters. Wipeout, Crash, Parappa, Loco Roco and Patapon. Party like it's 1997/2007!
Re: Add Ratchet & Clank to the List of Rock Solid PS4 Pro Titles
Been playing this on a 4K, non-HDR screen and it's fantastic. So are Shadows of Mordor, Rez infinite, Infamous First Light and TLOU. Far better than on the original PS4. Some devs seem to be doing better than others.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS4 Pro?
@solocapers
Hahaha superb. Fair point, beautifully illustrated.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS4 Pro?
@solocapers
I understand the logic I just think it's unnecessarily restrictive. Put a warning up that the game may not run properly and loading it up is at users risk, and ask if the user wants to run it using Original or Pro settings. If it doesn't work the user knows to use Original settings next time. Word of unstable games will quickly spread online.
This is supposed to be a Pro system for the high end PS4 user. Trust them to decide, it's better than the current situation where (like on a few other things) Sony users are looking across at Microsoft and thinking 'if they can do it....'
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS4 Pro?
@BAMozzy
"I am also a bit disappointed at Sony's decision to downclock the GPU and presumably the CPU too when playing non-patched games"
Same here. Seems an odd decision to me. Why not give punters the choice, a simple Setting to run PS4 games using Original or Pro settings, with a disclaimer that it may not enhance the gameplay experience (similar to the options and warning they gave users playing PS1 games on PS3). Trust your customers.
Re: Poll: Did You Buy a PS4 Pro?
Yes, got one after not being bothered for a while. Had a bit of a faff with the System Transfer (witnessed up my Activations) but Sony sorted that over the phone. I have a 4K TV without HDR and it's a good improvement. Shadows of Mordor, Infamous First Light and Ratchet and Clank all look great. It's quieter than my Original console and download speeds seem quicker. Aiming to try the improved Remote Play later and very tempted by Rez Infinite. Its not an earth-shattering life changer but it's a very worthwhile upgrade.
Re: Hardware Review: PS4 Pro - 4King Amazing?
@TomKongPhooey
So you come to a PlayStation site for news? Do you not think the launch of a new PlayStation is, you know, news?
Re: Hands On: Quit Bitchin'! PS4 Pro Is a Big, Beautiful Step Forward
@TheGZeus
Sega went crazy in the 90s, releasing two add-ons for the Megadrive then ditching the lot for the Saturn.
I'm not sure this is the same situation, in fact this doesn't really have a comparison that springs to mind. A mid-generation refresh that maintains compatibility is a new thing.
The problem with Sega's updates was they had their own library and their own exclusives, which shouldn't happen with PS4. I'm not convinced it will be a runaway success (to aim at a niche market-4K TV owners-and leave out the 4K BluRay capability is a very odd decision) but it's going to be interesting to see what happens. If it is successful it could set a precedent
Re: Hands On: Quit Bitchin'! PS4 Pro Is a Big, Beautiful Step Forward
@GBMatthew
Not compared to what I've seen and every review I've read. Especially with the Atmos update incoming it's a good player and an excellent value proposition. However for your original attempt to deflect criticism from Sony (by bizarrely claiming anybody who is 'that into' 4K BluRay should buy a standalone) to work at all, you need that to be true. So carry on telling yourself that.
Re: Hands On: Quit Bitchin'! PS4 Pro Is a Big, Beautiful Step Forward
@GBMatthew
Not true. XB1S holds its own against any standalone player.
Re: Hands On: Quit Bitchin'! PS4 Pro Is a Big, Beautiful Step Forward
@get2sammyb
Same question as @whoisbdub really.
I have a 4K TV from 2015 with no HDR. Will the Pro make a difference? I have the XB1S and 4K Blu-rays are a clear improvement, Pro has to impress me with the games.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying a PS4 Pro?
@DragonSlayer1759
"Who on earth still buys 4k discs at £20 and more a shot?" People who want the best quality picture. Streaming is convenient but for a lot of people bandwidth is an issue. If you're going to pay for a big 4K TV and want to watch a film you may as well do it properly. It's a niche of course, most of the mass market will be happy with a compromise (like buying a Blu Ray player and watching DVDs on it, or the people who used to run PS2-era consoles through the bundled AV Cables) but there are people who want the best and are willing to pay for it. Seems like a real oversight for Sony to ignore these people by releasing a console specifically designed to compliment 4K TVs but that doesn't properly support 4K video.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying a PS4 Pro?
No. I'll be getting an Xbox One S. I'm probably quite unusual in that I have some digital XB1 games I want access to (I sold my original XB1 to help pay for a couple of trips away) but I'd have reached the same conclusion anyway. I have a 4K TV so the UHD Blu-ray drive is a major factor as the best way to show it off and if I'm going to spend money on another console. I am has well get one that upscaled games I can't get on PS4 rather than games I already have.
Also, if incremental console updates is the way forward I'm more and more thinking I'll get a gaming PC in a couple of years. I'll also have a look at NX whenever Nintendo deign to let it's potential customers know what it is.
Re: Latest EU PlayStation Store Sale Cuts Prices on a Crazy Amount of Japanese Games
Hmmm. Tempted by the Gravity Rush remaster and Darius. Can't really justify adding more to my backlog but those are goooooooood prices
Re: Finally, BioShock: The Collection Has Been Confirmed for PS4
Might go for this at a decent price. My motion sickness has always made it difficult for me to play these but a smooth 60fps could give me a chance. I appreciate I have a particular set of circumstances but at least somebody is excited about another remaster.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with July's PlayStation Plus Games?
Personally I think it's pretty underwhelming. If others are happy great but there's not a lot for me. At least it seems to have stopped people crying about Killzone for a few weeks.
Re: Analyst Reckons Sony May Release a PS4 Slim as Well as PS4K
Unless Sony are deliberately setting out to confuse the market I can't see this being true.
Re: Sony's Dropped a Clanger with This Let's Play Lark
@Frogger
The similarity to something else was the original rejection in mid-January. It has now been rejected because, rightly, 'Lets Play' has been deemed descriptive. You can see here what Sony were trying to Trademark....
http://www.smcarthurlaw.com/lets-play-securely-in-the-public-domain-as-uspto-rejects-sonys-trademark-bid-for-a-2nd-time/
No two ways around it, Sony have acted like absolute (insert swear word of choice) here
Re: Your Full February PlayStation Plus Lineup Is Strong
@Tasuki
It's not 100% truth because they're not free.
Re: Sony's Dropped a Clanger with This Let's Play Lark
Oh no, its happening again. Whichever company has the lead in this industry very quickly catches a heavy dose of corporate arrogance. Stupid from Sony and I hope losing cost them a lot of money.
Re: PS4 Remote Play Will Stream to PC in the Future
Very pleased to hear this. It works great on the XB1 and has seen me using that machine a lot more than the PS4 recently. I doubt it will ever match the Wii U gamepad for Speed and consistency but its a great option.
Has anybody used the unofficial one?
Re: Feature: 25 Games That Will Make PS4's 2016 Insane
It's impossible to know where to start. It doesn't include stuff I'm hoping to see in 2016 like Wild, Rime, Dreams, Amplitude.
It's the variety that's mind-boggling.
Re: Round Up: Need for Speed PS4 Reviews Apply the Hand Brake
Oh and always online? **** off!
Re: Round Up: Need for Speed PS4 Reviews Apply the Hand Brake
Played it on EA Access and its dreadful. These reviews are very kind. Fifth best racing game I've played this gen, out of 5 (Mario Kart 8, Drive Club, Forza Horizon 2 and NFS Rivals are all better).
Re: This Is the Flashiest PS Plus Voucher You'll Ever Buy
Why was I unable to resist this?
Re: Soapbox: Why Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection on PS4 Is So Refreshing
@larry_koopa
"Open world racing games are the worst". Oh how I agree with this. Loved all the Burnouts until Paradise, where instead of taking part in super fast races with spectacular crashes I was now driving. From A to B. I can do that in the real world anytime thanks very much (except I usually have a clear idea where I'm going and how to get there, unlike in Paradise/Most Wanted).
Re: Soapbox: Why Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection on PS4 Is So Refreshing
I thought I was alone in thinking this. It's a side-effect of the industry catering so keenly for teenage boys. As an adult with a job, a wife and a child I simply don't have enough gaming time to be spending hours wandering around a game looking for something to do. Too many games take a 'never mind the quality, feel the width' approach when some people need their quality gaming more concentrated.
Re: Review: Mickey's Wild Adventure (PSone)
@JamieO
I'm guessing you already know about these but for those who don't and have a similar interest, a lot of old games magazines are available to download from....
https://archive.org/details/gamemagazines
http://www.oldgamemags.com/
http://www.retromags.com/