In a show of corporate camaraderie, PlayStation executives like Hermen Hulst have congratulated Xbox for its E3 2021 showcase. Microsoft suit Phil Spencer is a big fan of social media, recently sending congratulatory messages to Insomniac Games for the stellar Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart reviews. And while we’ve seen Sony return the favour of the years, it’s been much less frequent with its backslaps.
Here’s what PlayStation Studios boss Hermen Hulst had to say:
And indie games boss Shuhei Yoshida added the following:
We’d recommend not clicking through to Twitter and reading the replies because they’re pretty poisonous all around. As we wrote in a reaction piece earlier today, it’ll be interesting to see how Sony responds to the impossibly generous value proposition of Game Pass, which is the thorn in PS5’s side.
[source twitter.com, via twitter.com]
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@eagletrippin what? Phil Spencer literally just tweeted this week congratulating Insomniac on the launch of Ratchet and Clank.
@eagletrippin I Think Phil Spencer Is the Only One Who Does.
Much better this way. End of the day we are all gamers arn't we!
Console wars are for fanboys. Industry professionals generally respect other industry professionals.
That's nice. Now show more games
Console wars are for idiots. Play whatever games you want.
@eagletrippin both sides respect each other , and congrats each other all the time, console wars were always something people made up to justify their purchase if they only bought one console.
DILLON! You son of a *****. What's a matter? CIA got you pressing too many pencils???
@eagletrippin Phil Spencer literally just congratulated Insomniac for Ratchet & Clank being met with appraisal and has previously congratulated Sony for stuff like the PS5 launch
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It would be more fun if they were like, ‘well that was a steaming pile of sh* beep!’
But this it’s nice that they’re all being nice 😁
I love this attitude between gaming companies.
I would also love to see the opposite attitude towards Stadia. They deserve a Stadiain't advertisment.
Thanks for the heads up to read the replies lol
@nessisonett TRUTH
Wow. I didn't say a single thing about Sony rocking / Xbox sucking. I said it feels like Sony always praises Xbox and it's not reciprocated — just an observation from afar, if I was way off, then my bad. But all this "fanboy" talk — sheesh. Calm down, no need to build up that Strawman to such an immense height. Apparently, some of you just had your anti-fanboy rants ready to unload. Lol
@eagletrippin But no-one's calling you out? They're just referring to the situation between sony and xbox execs.
Really. Console wars is like QAnon for gamers
@eagletrippin They're not slamming you. All good. They're just disagreeing. No harm done. 🙂
@Areus Aaron Greenberg and Larry Hyrb do all the time. As do other Microsoft/Xbox employees.
Well deserved congratulations. The number of games that gamepass will make available during 2021 is astounding.
Currently enjoying Ratchet and Clank, but oh, boy, am I looking forward to these xb 1st party games.
It was a good show for sure I'm definitely pumped for Halo this Holiday!
Great and it's only gamers who are nasty console warriors not at all encouraged into arguing by gaming sites promoting 'the impossibly generous value proposition of Game Pass' and yes its sarcasm.
@eagletrippin Well , that's factually incorrect.
Always nice to see. It really makes me smile that the guys at the top who have careers riding on the success of these Consoles are much nicer to each other than the people who hand over their hard earned to pay the Execs wages.
@eagletrippin No one called you a Fanboy. They just pointed out that Phil regularly congratulates Sony.
It was a great show and for everyone it's a great time to be a gamer, especially so for those of us who don't tie ourselves to one platform out of some sense of misguided loyalty
Have fun whatever you're playing on
@Ralizah until they push in a sly dig in an interview 😂
Phil is great unless its last week when he "threw shade at sony" that right push square 😂
@JJ2 I liked this 😂
@Residentsteven it was just a game pass advert filled with timed exclusives and cgi trailers
@nessisonett I find it funny and treat it as banter although I own both ,its all silly, same as those sports fans,some people just take it far to seriously thats the problem.
Of course they will congratulate each other, they are business partners, in a way a lot of Sony's future relies on Microsoft and its Azure network after all. Sony has no where near the funds to build a state of the art global network like it. And Microsoft I'm sure appreciates the income from the deal and they all like a platform that's dedicated to gaming.
Whilst fanboys fight, you'll probably find these execs like these meet more then you think, they are leading a gigantic global industry that employs hundreds of thousands at the end of the day. A big responsibility.
@carlos82 Can't get either new console at present plus I don't have the money for both anyway nor the time.
It's not misguided loyalty anyway, it's just a matter of preference. I prefer big AAA single player games and what I saw yesterday from Xbox were anything but. If I just want to play online in FP mode shooting things then great but as I don't then Xbox right now isn't for me.
@Col_McCafferty my comment wasn't meant to be about people like you who may simply prefer the games on one or another. It was about the many I see on Twitter or elsewhere who blindly support one whilst unnecessarily criticising the other
Congratulations??? From SONY??? WHY??? So Microsoft take away loads of games that were coming to PlayStation to and then they say 'Congratulations, well done'??? Er ok
Self righteous virtue signalling about being a real gamer owning every platform is just as bad as keyboard warriors promoting one platform (They often are the same). There is nothing wrong with gaming on ONE platform, whatever it is (NO there is no need for explanation or justification).
The worst are the influencers/insiders shills from the media (yes that includes some journalists) and the companies themselves. Most people arguing are just BEING PLAYED by them.
When is Twitter never not poisonous?
@Areus I've seen congratulatory posts from Aaron Greenberg and Larry Hyrb to PS before too. They all get along and respect each other.
@JJ2 "Great and it's only gamers who are nasty console warriors not at all encouraged into arguing by gaming sites promoting 'the impossibly generous value proposition of Game Pass' and yes its sarcasm."
I get what your saying, and you have a point... to a point. But really they should be able to post these articles and we have an adult discussion and debate about the pros and cons, and whether this is a good idea or not... without it descending into arguing.
Talks about poisonous comments, then says garbage like this "it’ll be interesting to see how Sony responds to the impossibly generous value proposition of Game Pass, which is the thorn in PS5’s side"
PS Plus is kicking game pass ass in 2021. The amount of PS5 games we already got day one with Plus is incredible.
Yet again, your argument, like most game pass arguments is "just you wait, game pass is gonna have this game or that game in a year or 2".
Pretty poisonous, non argument, opinion fanboy crap, right there.
they do this every year guys nothing new!
So Sony is congratulation Microsoft for having a bad e3 conference .
@themightyant
Haha no worries I'm not taking it too seriously.
What I find annoying is the constant GamePass promotion giving it praise as if its free but then not backing it up with all the details. How much, how much with the compulsory sub to play online, how does that compare with the cheapest best value on PS (PS+), what's the drawback ? (First party going for GAS games and 3rd party being random rental for a limited time, value of PS+ offering going down like Gold if a new service) , then you got to buy games in addition, yes you do. How is that incredibly good value without even explain it. And of course, you really need to like those first party games because, hey if you do then you go xbox not PlayStation, duh. Point it is not good value for everyone. I just dislike misinformation and hypocrisy.
That s just one article about xbox again on a PS site. The previous day was about Spencer taking shots at Sony as if that would not stir controversy.
Then blame gamers, it's typical.
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So to sum up if they want to post an article about GamePass then it should be informative with all the facts. You can't post an article saying it s good value and not even back it up and talk about £ and just say go chat about it.
Well yeah, the bigwigs are making millions of dollars regardless. The heck do they care about the peasants fighting over plastic boxes?
@andrewsqual
I do agree that the difference is that Microsoft beats you over the head with their Gamepass announcements but PS plus and PS Now are constantly releasing stellar games. The one thing Sony needs to do is unify the services into one big one and then Microsoft will lose all momentum.
Yeah I'm not for the whole "sides" rubbish. I just love games, And you have to respect MS for trying to correct their wrongs in the past. I'll get a series X as and when the games show it's worthwhile and that my One X needs replacing. But I doubt that will be for a while yet.
@JJ2 I DO get what you are saying and, as I said, I think you have a point, I just see it with a little more nuance.
I don't see any misinformation here, just reporting what was said... hypocrisy, yes a little, in the manner and tone it is delivered, especially to sew seeds and spark engagement. Sadly I also understand why. Look at the engagement of some of these articles, ultimately Push Square is an online business.
I agree it would be great to see an in depth article discussing the pros and cons of Game Pass. Do we want similar on the Sony side. Featuring all costs included and looking at different user types.
I agree Game Pass isn't a good fit for everyone. But the value, while subjective, is still undeniable for a large segment of users, especially a lot of the enthusiasts we find here who are more likely to play more games than the average consumer.
Though i'd argue online is NOT compulsory, I don't use it at all nor do many, but I still have PS+ and GP Ult. for the other features. We're all different and have different needs and wants. It isn't one size fits all, as you rightly said.
I guess ultimately i'm aware, as i'm sure you are, that the sad truth of the internet and news is there is more merit in having 5 articles to say 1 thing repeatedly, or many articles, that together garner more engagement, clicks and crucially ad views than 1 'definitive' (not that there is such I thing, but i'm sure you get what I mean) article that gets fewer clicks and ad revenue... at least in the short term. It's a difficult balance and perhaps a necessary evil.
It's part of the reason Patreon is great on YouTube and other services for so many creators. They can spend more time concentrating on the quality of their content and less time worrying about quantity, views, SEO tactics and all other metrics. (Of course this is still a concern, just to a lesser extent) But of course it is also a HARD sell...
@themightyant
Exactly. I also hate when a ps blog or a real report is cut into half a dozen out of context articles. I get that clickbait is a necessity and they have to make a living but there is still a possibility to opt for more serious content and a more quality press vs tabloid format..
About the out of context reporting, did you read the original Jim Ryan interview? I know I've been going on about it and PushSquare staff probably don't like it but the global misreporting from the press about the whole affair is mindbogging.
@JJ2 Agreed! Yes on the whole I always try and go to the source material, for all the reasons above and more.
I had a brilliant teacher many years ago that split us into groups and got each to read a specific article, or series of articles on that subject from the SAME paper/publication and then write down our conclusions. They got each group to do this for the same story and then we presented our findings.
It was staggering, to a young mind, how different our conclusions were especially when each paper had access to exactly the same press release; to see how they each spun it to impress their own opinions.
Since then I've tried to read the original report/press release and come to my own conclusions, rather than be led.
When there is a fascinating news story it's interesting, to me at least, to read a press release and then read that same story in as many places as possible. It really helps you get a grip on the author or publication's bias. Comments on those different sites are interesting too!
To be clear I'm not saying this is always a bad thing, completely objective news or reviews without some personal take are dry and dull. But it's important to distinguish.
And I always appreciate it when the source is linked!
@themightyant
Road to PS5 was one of the fascinating reporting too.
I've never read so many awkward takes about it haha.
@JJ2 Yes!!! Meanwhile I ASMR to Cerny whenever I can 🤣
I wonder what they thought of Capcom's commerc... err show?
GamePass is a great service and amazing value. Simply find a way to incorporate it into your gaming life.
A PS5/PS4 + xCloud combo is fantastic.
And not like I am not playing Ratchet and Clank or No More Heroes 3 because I have GamePass. Gaming does not work that way.
@nessisonett yeah that is so my take fanboys/girls just lick themselves out of great games on the other platform buy both enjoy the benefits
This is like your ex gf congratulating your current gf for stealing you away from her.
@spcspc That is the comment of the decade.
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