In terms of sales momentum no it’s probably not needed. They’re shifting every system they can sell. Possibly in terms of keeping the hardcore sweet, yes they should have gone for it but then the hardcore probably know the games will come, even if Sony are doing some irritating things recently. A summer showcase should be setting up the rest of the year and showing what’s coming. The issue might be that they have shown what’s coming. If there isn’t much to show you can’t show it.
Well, finally got myself a PS5 reserved at Argos but that State of Play doesn’t make me want to rush down there and pick it up 😀 Much more I’m looking forward to on Series X and Switch later this year. Thankfully there’s enough already out to justify it. Jett looked interesting.
Undeniably a great show and Game Pass is (currently) phenomenal value. I’m not sure how much of a threat it is to Sony though, the whole Xbox strategy is designed to not have them as much in direct competition than they used to be. They may well chip away at Sony’s Console sales and revenue, and it isn’t a great time for Sony to be trying to push up the price of games, but Sony are still in a very strong position.
The good news for everyone is that competition is A Good Thing. Having Xbox and Nintendo in better shape than with XB1 and Wii U will help keep Sony on their toes.
Always nice to see. It really makes me smile that the guys at the top who have careers riding on the success of these Consoles are much nicer to each other than the people who hand over their hard earned to pay the Execs wages.
Maybe ‘lied’ is harsh but they were certainly misleading, or disingenuous, or ‘economical with the actualite.’
The issue isn’t that these games are cross-gen. For all the fuss about exclusives I think most Console early adopters grasp that a lot of the attraction early on is playing the best version of games rather than completely exclusive games. Plus it makes total business sense and these are businesses after all.
It just looks a bit off because the intention was clearly to use ‘believing in generations’ as a sales driver and a stick to beat the other guy with. That interview was at a point where Xbox was getting a lot of stick for making the sensible decision to support last-gen systems where possible.
That quote was picked up on by the more fanatical elements of the Playstation fanbase and used as bait, while Sony were vague about what platforms games were going to be on. As a result the impression was given that PS5 was all about new exclusives while Series S/X were just playing d games. To those who follow this stuff closely (which isn’t the mass market BTW) it doesn’t look good. What else will they be vague/disingenuous/misleading about?
To me personally it’s not as big a problem as me not being able to get hold of a bloody PS5 but there’s no denying it stinks a bit.
Seems Sony continue to move away from what I used to like about them. They used to put out a lot of interesting, quirky stuff alongside the odd big hitter and of course the masses of third-party games. But then the lack of a handheld and the amount of coin the big Western blockbusters are making them leaves little room for that. Ho him. A shame for me personally, and I hope they’re not making the same mistakes MS did around 2010-13, but I understand business is business.
Thanks for the reply. I took the plunge a few days ago when there was a discount code on Ebay U.K. Only managed to play it for a half hour but from what I’ve seen it does indeed look and run great on the Pro 👍
That’s where competition is great for the Consumer. Sony fell into the Corporate Arrogance trap after PS1 and PS2, they were awful at the start of the PS3 gen. Then they had to rethink when they had the rug pulled from under them and became all consumer friendly. Microsoft had a disastrous first few years of XB1 and are now looking for another way to pick up Customers and Revenue, undercutting Sony in lots of ways.
Nothing wrong with that, Consumers can benefit from Companies deciding they need to be Consumer Friendly (whatever the motivation). If they chose to stick to one ‘side’ that’s being less so, that’s their call.
It’s not just Microsoft, it’s something the PC Community has taken for granted for years. It would be nice to see it come to the Console Space either but a lot of Console Gamers seem to be stuck on ‘how things have always been done’ and not how things can change.
On its own it’s a poor show, a bit cheap, but not the end of the world. It just looks bad next to Xbox but Nintendo don’t offer free upgrades (or free anything). The issue is that hopefully it isn’t a sign of an incoming dose of the Corporate Arrogance that affects every platform holder when they’re on top.
“ we had hoped that Half-Life: Alyx would eventually make its way to a hypothetical next-gen PSVR headset, but then we suppose Newell’s personal preferences wouldn’t exactly prevent that from happening anyway.”
Of course it won’t. They’re a business. If there’s money to be made they’ll chase it.
It’s weird how things ebb and flow though. I went from Amstrad CPC and epic load times (not even guaranteed to work), then one of the big selling points of SNES and MD was instant loading cartridges. Then it was all about the massive storage of CD and who cares about loading times and now Console gamers are downloading, installing and updating like PC Gamers. Be funny to see it switch back to ‘instant loading! The future is here!’
I would expect them to. Being more powerful certainly helped PS4 though of course they need to be at the same launch price for that to have a real effect. However, are they going to fix their exclusives issue?
I think I’m gonna go down that road. Sony seem to be cutting back a bit on what they’re offering with Plus anyway. As someone who isn’t a huge Online player the value is diminishing slightly over time.
“big games at low prices which, unless you've got stock in the publisher, is obviously a good thing for you.”
This is unsustainable. We don’t know for certain whether the push for DLC and MTX would have happened but if you have a userbase that expects to see games discounted hugely within months of launch and won’t buy at full price publishers are going to look for a way round that. Publishers aren’t going to keep pouring money into games if they don’t make money. They get attracted to the idea of GAAS because of he revenue stream it (theoretically) provides. It’s a tough one to accept because everyone wants cheap games and everyone wants to think that’s fine and has no aftereffects, but it does.
I’m not sure how the race to the bottom on pricing is good for anyone, if publishers can’t make money off initial sales they look to DLC and Microtransactions. But specific to Nintendo, their main source of revenue is their own games. If they can sell them full price (rather than giving hem to bargain hunters backlogs for a lot less money) they would be crazy not to. They also hold their price which makes it easier to try their games knowing you can trade them in.
I don’t think there was much doubt about this. Crackdown 3 really isn’t good, in fact it pales next to the first one IMO.
There’s a huge gap in quality and quantity of first party releases and throwing money at the problem won’t fix it, there needs to be a cultural change at XBox.
Not really a surprise. They’ve taken the U.K. market very seriously since entering it in 1995. At that point SEGA were imploding and Nintendo used a third party to distribute their (late, expensive and letterboxed) games in the U.K. Sony didn’t that mistake and their success is well deserved (well Ok, there was letterboxing).
If it was any other Burnout I'd agree. I'd love to see the Arcade racing game make a comeback without all the open-world stuff (which is done far better by Forza Horizon IMHO). Hopefully it sells and opens the door for a Legends port.
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Re: Poll: Does Sony Need a Big PS5 Showcase This Summer?
In terms of sales momentum no it’s probably not needed. They’re shifting every system they can sell. Possibly in terms of keeping the hardcore sweet, yes they should have gone for it but then the hardcore probably know the games will come, even if Sony are doing some irritating things recently. A summer showcase should be setting up the rest of the year and showing what’s coming. The issue might be that they have shown what’s coming. If there isn’t much to show you can’t show it.
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced During Sony's Latest State of Play Livestream?
Well, finally got myself a PS5 reserved at Argos but that State of Play doesn’t make me want to rush down there and pick it up 😀 Much more I’m looking forward to on Series X and Switch later this year. Thankfully there’s enough already out to justify it. Jett looked interesting.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Game Pass Is the Thorn in PS5's Side
Undeniably a great show and Game Pass is (currently) phenomenal value. I’m not sure how much of a threat it is to Sony though, the whole Xbox strategy is designed to not have them as much in direct competition than they used to be. They may well chip away at Sony’s Console sales and revenue, and it isn’t a great time for Sony to be trying to push up the price of games, but Sony are still in a very strong position.
The good news for everyone is that competition is A Good Thing. Having Xbox and Nintendo in better shape than with XB1 and Wii U will help keep Sony on their toes.
Re: Sony Bigwigs Congratulate Xbox for E3 2021 Showcase
Always nice to see. It really makes me smile that the guys at the top who have careers riding on the success of these Consoles are much nicer to each other than the people who hand over their hard earned to pay the Execs wages.
Re: Talking Point: Did Sony Lie About PS5?
Maybe ‘lied’ is harsh but they were certainly misleading, or disingenuous, or ‘economical with the actualite.’
The issue isn’t that these games are cross-gen. For all the fuss about exclusives I think most Console early adopters grasp that a lot of the attraction early on is playing the best version of games rather than completely exclusive games. Plus it makes total business sense and these are businesses after all.
It just looks a bit off because the intention was clearly to use ‘believing in generations’ as a sales driver and a stick to beat the other guy with. That interview was at a point where Xbox was getting a lot of stick for making the sensible decision to support last-gen systems where possible.
That quote was picked up on by the more fanatical elements of the Playstation fanbase and used as bait, while Sony were vague about what platforms games were going to be on. As a result the impression was given that PS5 was all about new exclusives while Series S/X were just playing d games. To those who follow this stuff closely (which isn’t the mass market BTW) it doesn’t look good. What else will they be vague/disingenuous/misleading about?
To me personally it’s not as big a problem as me not being able to get hold of a bloody PS5 but there’s no denying it stinks a bit.
Re: Sony Japan Studio Winding Down Internal Development Efforts, Says New Report
Seems Sony continue to move away from what I used to like about them. They used to put out a lot of interesting, quirky stuff alongside the odd big hitter and of course the masses of third-party games. But then the lack of a handheld and the amount of coin the big Western blockbusters are making them leaves little room for that. Ho him. A shame for me personally, and I hope they’re not making the same mistakes MS did around 2010-13, but I understand business is business.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure (PS5) - Lovely Launch Game Revives LittleBigPlanet Protagonist
@SLitz1979
Same to you sir. Best wishes.
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure (PS5) - Lovely Launch Game Revives LittleBigPlanet Protagonist
@SLitz1979
Thanks for the reply. I took the plunge a few days ago when there was a discount code on Ebay U.K. Only managed to play it for a half hour but from what I’ve seen it does indeed look and run great on the Pro 👍
Re: Sackboy: A Big Adventure (PS5) - Lovely Launch Game Revives LittleBigPlanet Protagonist
This looks great. Anyone got any feedback on how it runs on PS4 Pro?
Re: Random: PS5 Looks Way Better As a Skyscraper Than a Games Console
That’s going to happen now isn’t it? That’ll be a building in Manchester or Berlin or somewhere in 10 years.
Re: Reaction: Spider-Man PS5 Debacle Shows Sony Is Out of Touch
@doctommaso
True. Fair point.
Re: Reaction: Spider-Man PS5 Debacle Shows Sony Is Out of Touch
@MidnightDragonDX @doctommaso
😆 Wanting better value for your money as a Consumer is not ‘being entitled’
Re: Reaction: Spider-Man PS5 Debacle Shows Sony Is Out of Touch
@Mikey856
That’s where competition is great for the Consumer. Sony fell into the Corporate Arrogance trap after PS1 and PS2, they were awful at the start of the PS3 gen. Then they had to rethink when they had the rug pulled from under them and became all consumer friendly. Microsoft had a disastrous first few years of XB1 and are now looking for another way to pick up Customers and Revenue, undercutting Sony in lots of ways.
Nothing wrong with that, Consumers can benefit from Companies deciding they need to be Consumer Friendly (whatever the motivation). If they chose to stick to one ‘side’ that’s being less so, that’s their call.
Re: Reaction: Spider-Man PS5 Debacle Shows Sony Is Out of Touch
@AyanamiReign
It’s not just Microsoft, it’s something the PC Community has taken for granted for years. It would be nice to see it come to the Console Space either but a lot of Console Gamers seem to be stuck on ‘how things have always been done’ and not how things can change.
Re: Reaction: Spider-Man PS5 Debacle Shows Sony Is Out of Touch
On its own it’s a poor show, a bit cheap, but not the end of the world. It just looks bad next to Xbox but Nintendo don’t offer free upgrades (or free anything). The issue is that hopefully it isn’t a sign of an incoming dose of the Corporate Arrogance that affects every platform holder when they’re on top.
Re: Valve Co-Founder Gabe Newell Picks Xbox Series X Over PS5
“ we had hoped that Half-Life: Alyx would eventually make its way to a hypothetical next-gen PSVR headset, but then we suppose Newell’s personal preferences wouldn’t exactly prevent that from happening anyway.”
Of course it won’t. They’re a business. If there’s money to be made they’ll chase it.
Re: Valve Co-Founder Gabe Newell Picks Xbox Series X Over PS5
@Juanalf
Or it could just he thinks the Xbox is better, and there isn’t a Conspiracy there. Crazy, I know....
Re: Random: This Retailer Had Fun with Its Custom Ghost of Tsushima Box Art
More of this kind of thing would definitely attract some people back to bricks and mortar games shopping
Re: Xbox Boss Takes More Shots at PS5 Exclusives Saying Fans Won't Be 'Forced' into Next-Gen
Hmmm. Actually judging from the large number of childish and aggressive replies maybe this site judges it’s audience pretty well.
Re: Xbox Boss Takes More Shots at PS5 Exclusives Saying Fans Won't Be 'Forced' into Next-Gen
What an unnecessarily catty article. Can we not leave the Console Wars nonsense in the school playground?
Re: PS5 Will Save You Lots and Lots of Time
@TheIronChimp @Paranoimia
It’s weird how things ebb and flow though. I went from Amstrad CPC and epic load times (not even guaranteed to work), then one of the big selling points of SNES and MD was instant loading cartridges. Then it was all about the massive storage of CD and who cares about loading times and now Console gamers are downloading, installing and updating like PC Gamers. Be funny to see it switch back to ‘instant loading! The future is here!’
Re: PS5 Will Save You Lots and Lots of Time
This is actually more attractive to me than better graphics, which is suffering a bit from diminishing returns IMHO. Time is of the essence.
Re: Surprises in PS4's All-Time Best Selling Exclusives List
“Well GTA V being top is a real shock”
Said no-one ever, anywhere
Re: PS4 Has Officially Sold 100 Million Units, and It's Done So Faster Than Any Other Console
Well deserved too. This is what happens when you do pretty much everything right.
Re: EA Access Finally Finds a Home on PS4 from 24th July
@rjejr
Assuming it’s the same as on Xbox it’s downloads
Re: E3 2019: Ubisoft Teases 'Biggest Ever' E3 Press Conference Pre-Show, Complete with Game Announcements
Puffys Saga reboot or bust!
Re: Round Up: What Was Announced at EA Play 2019?
There’s a reason EA go first at E3. Things can only improve from here 😉
Re: E3 2019: EA Reveals Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order Gameplay with Lengthy Demo
Hmmm. Still looks good, but not as amazing as I was hoping
Re: Insiders Claim That Next Xbox Is More Advanced Than PS5
I would expect them to. Being more powerful certainly helped PS4 though of course they need to be at the same launch price for that to have a real effect. However, are they going to fix their exclusives issue?
Re: Poll: One Year Old Today, Have Your Thoughts on God of War Changed?
Very impressive product but I couldn't get in to it. Maybe I'll try it again one day but I just don't think it's for me.
Re: Lots of New EU PlayStation Store Sales Start Today, Huge Variety of Games Discounted
@TheIronChimp
I think I’m gonna go down that road. Sony seem to be cutting back a bit on what they’re offering with Plus anyway. As someone who isn’t a huge Online player the value is diminishing slightly over time.
Re: Lots of New EU PlayStation Store Sales Start Today, Huge Variety of Games Discounted
@johncalmc
“big games at low prices which, unless you've got stock in the publisher, is obviously a good thing for you.”
This is unsustainable. We don’t know for certain whether the push for DLC and MTX would have happened but if you have a userbase that expects to see games discounted hugely within months of launch and won’t buy at full price publishers are going to look for a way round that. Publishers aren’t going to keep pouring money into games if they don’t make money. They get attracted to the idea of GAAS because of he revenue stream it (theoretically) provides. It’s a tough one to accept because everyone wants cheap games and everyone wants to think that’s fine and has no aftereffects, but it does.
Re: Lots of New EU PlayStation Store Sales Start Today, Huge Variety of Games Discounted
I’m sure it’s been said before but Titanfall 2 is brilliant. It’s £3.99 for the Standard Edition, £4.99 for the Ultimate Edition.
Re: Lots of New EU PlayStation Store Sales Start Today, Huge Variety of Games Discounted
@johncalmc
I’m not sure how the race to the bottom on pricing is good for anyone, if publishers can’t make money off initial sales they look to DLC and Microtransactions. But specific to Nintendo, their main source of revenue is their own games. If they can sell them full price (rather than giving hem to bargain hunters backlogs for a lot less money) they would be crazy not to. They also hold their price which makes it easier to try their games knowing you can trade them in.
Re: Lots of New EU PlayStation Store Sales Start Today, Huge Variety of Games Discounted
@TheIronChimp
It’s not ideal as a workaround but could you set up another Account and buy it on that?
Re: Round Up: ANTHEM PS4 Reviews Falter
I know I’m in the minority being utterly bored of Online shooters but this always looked unremittingly tedious to me, so no surprise here.
Re: No, Tetris 99 Isn't Available on PSP
@Jriibz
Yeah that must be it. I can’t thnik of anything else. Strange times we live in.
Re: Soapbox: Crackdown 3 Is Proof That Microsoft Is Still Playing Catch-Up to Sony
I don’t think there was much doubt about this. Crackdown 3 really isn’t good, in fact it pales next to the first one IMO.
There’s a huge gap in quality and quantity of first party releases and throwing money at the problem won’t fix it, there needs to be a cultural change at XBox.
Re: No, Tetris 99 Isn't Available on PSP
It’s a strange hoax, just because it isn’t immediately clear what the hoaxer was trying to achieve
Re: Spider-Man PS4 Is the Best Selling Western-Made Sony Game Since Crash Bandicoot 3 in Japan
Sweet. Great game with strong marketing sells really well.
It doesn’t always work like that either, but it’s nice when it does.
Re: PS4 Controlled 63% of the UK's Software Share in September
Not really a surprise. They’ve taken the U.K. market very seriously since entering it in 1995. At that point SEGA were imploding and Nintendo used a third party to distribute their (late, expensive and letterboxed) games in the U.K. Sony didn’t that mistake and their success is well deserved (well Ok, there was letterboxing).
Re: Hands On: Dreams Is Going to Be a Game of the Year Candidate
Dual PS4 release/PS5 launch game then?
Re: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trilogy Takes PS4 to Court in 2019
Might seem these are better suited to a handheld but as long as he controls are right, great games.
Re: Think of the Children Is a Co-Op Parenting Simulator Coming to PS4 Next Week
Yeah. I’ve got a 4-year-old and a 1-year-old.
I’m not the target market for this 😫 😅
Re: Capcom Wants 'Games That Get 9s But Sell Less' Over the Likes of Resident Evil 6
I’d like to see more evidence of this in their behaviour before being totally convinced
Re: Nintendo Switch Port Specialists Wish They Could Convert Horizon: Zero Dawn
@GKO900
Fans of every system ever port beg mate. Just accept it and put down the spade 😋
Re: Guide: New PS4 Games Releasing in August 2018
I’d somehow never heard of We Happy Few. Very interested in that now.
Re: Soapbox: Why Burnout Paradise Makes Perfect Sense as EA's First Remaster
If it was any other Burnout I'd agree. I'd love to see the Arcade racing game make a comeback without all the open-world stuff (which is done far better by Forza Horizon IMHO). Hopefully it sells and opens the door for a Legends port.
Re: PS4 Pro's New Supersampling Mode Is Putting in Work
@BAMozzy
Thanks for that. Very helpful.
Re: PS4 Pro's New Supersampling Mode Is Putting in Work
Kind of feels like this should have been in there at the start, but welcome nonetheless.