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By all means play this game, it's absolutely amazing!
The only "real" detective game I've ever played, where you have to come up with theories on your own and the game actually accepts them.
Not to mention the lore is super interesting, even if it can be a bit daunting at first to understand how Paradise works.

3?! Seriously, what's wrong with this industry?! As if we needed such a great team to be stifled by a license.
Let them create their own stuff instead of this licensed crap, for goodness's sake.
I really hate how prevalent licensed games are becoming, as if we needed any more homogeneity in our entertainment.

Edit: oh and the absolute worst thing is people defending it. Not those who are happy, if you're a SW fan this is awesome news and I'm glad for you; but those rushing to justify this crap by going "well, you know, development costs this and pre-existing IP that".
I get that and it's true, but let's not joke around, we're talking EA here, not a sweatshop on a shoestring budget.
Since when fans have turned into shareholders? What do you get by defending a corporation you're just a puny number to?
It's just said how people are indoctrinated into accounting for this kind of crap, instead pf just wishing for a good game.

@gollumb82 how you manage to keep your cool like that when people keep strawmanning your arguments and not offering any in return is beyond me.
I swear some of the replies to your comments do my head in for how unbearably arrogant they are despite being devoid of any actual argumentation.
Good job mate, have a great day!

@get2sammyb ahahah don't worry! I see, I thought so at this point! Thanks and have a good night 😃

@themightyant yeah, the only real flaw it has is that I cannot experience it with fresh eyes for a second time lol
But if you haven't played the DLC I cannot recommend it enough!
Just be warmed that it's spooooky ahahhaha
No but seriously, it gave me the single biggest fright I've ever experienced in a game! Utterly brilliant stuff!

What I would give to be able to re-experience it for the first time!

@get2sammyb no I meant Echoes Of The Eye, Outer Wilds' DLC

@themightyant ah don't worry, it didn't come across as such, I just took the chance to gush about Outer Wilds some more lol
I just finished the DLC a few days ago and I can't stop thinking about it ahahahah

@themightyant I thought exactly the same thing lol
Though to be honest I don't blame good old Ralph since Outer Wilds is the absolute G.O.A.T. and nothing even comes close.

Edit: oh and I definitely recommend Hitman if you find the time, I've only played the first one so far but it's amazing.

@get2sammyb On this topic, did any of you at PS HQ ever review the DLC?

@Col_McCafferty "no offence but ***** other players"

Boy are you salty and petty 😯😂

QUAKE 👺

(No, FFS, I don't have anything else to say)

Yay for consolidation! /s

Also, the statements CEO's put out when companies are bought are just grating, empty drivel.

Recently I tried getting into the Online, and desisted in like 30 minutes.
Everything's just so bloated, clunky and overcomplicated, I just don't get how people put up with this crap.
And it's a shame too, cause there'd be quite a lot to do if the game was structured, y'know, like a game.
It's probably just me, but so many things about GTAV and Online baffle me, gameplay wise.

Wow another super hero game, we definitely needed more of those 😑

Eh, I just played Control and found it average, and that even had fun combat as opposed to AW, so I guess Remedy's games are just not for me.

@RBMango I'd never heard the expression "go out the front door without boxers on" and it gave a good chuckle, thanks! 😁

@Col_McCafferty so anyone who doesn't agree with you is "edgy"? Wow, the maturity!

For the record, I'm a huge Bioshock fan, but @nessisonett's point are absolutely fair.
Infinite (and I repeat: I like that game) was just a huge mess of misplaced ambitions and a hodgepodge of too many ideas, all of which were poorly developed.

@get2sammyb do these games feature free aim like GTA V, or is the shooting still lock-on only? Are there any GTA V alternate control schemes (such as run with R1 and jump with X)?
Thanks

@TheArt ahhh you gotta love fanboy apologists!
"This ain't no true Rockstar!"...lol

Probably the most overrated series ever.
I mean they're good games (at least the ones I've played), but their perceived quality is blown way out of proportion by non-enthusiasts who think video games are limited to this, and by the fact that the first games were pretty raunchy and controversial for the time.

If you take that out of the equation, GTA V for example is nothing more than an averagely fun game with clunky controls and barely serviceable shooting, but also awesome writing and arcade-y driving, that nonetheless got old after 15 hours or so of playtime.

Wait...was Let It Die a success? Really?
Also, is Suda51 involved in this? Cause LID was a project of his AFAIK.

For all lamenting unrealistic enemies taking a lot of bullets, well, I dislike spongy enemies as much as the next guy, but it's not much more fun in GTA when you die in a couple of shots either.
Realism =/= good game design.

And yeah, health bars are absolutely awful.

@HeeHo and SMTV right around the corner! I'm so freaking hyped lol

@Daveuppercut so much this.

These sandbox open world games are such a slog nowadays, they basically still play like they did on PS2. You basically drive, shoot, drive some more, shoot again.
The only thing I don't get is why is everyone ganging up on SR but not GTA? Why is GTA V still considered a 10/10 by many people, if so many are quick to point out how little the envelop has been pushed.
Not referring to you or anyone specific, mind you, I'm just using your comment as a jumping point to express this perceived disparity.

Regarding this game, I still don't get why it's called Saints Row. It looks fine, I'm not hating on it like a lot of people are, but it's just so bland and sterile.
Everything from the UI to the setting has nothing to do with the previous over the top aesthetic of SR, in my opinion. It looks tame.

The Mexican-styled setting, though is pretty cool, for as much as it doesn't really scream Saints Row to me.

Oh so they're still gonna have terrible, outdated controls, then.

@CriticalGames it's always nice to see devs engage with the community! I wish you the best on the launch, it looks very cool!

@johncalmc 😂😂😂

Nice to hear a feel good story for a change! Hope he's doing well, I wish him all the best.

Super glad for Arkane! I won't be buying it at full price cause I very rarely do (and I still have Prey to play), but I'm happy it's a success!

@Hypnotoad107 oooooohhhh boooooyyyy shots fired lolololol 😂😂😂
Thanks for the laugh!

@wiiware as the commenter above pointed out, it's absolutely doable on a controller 😃
I've been playing it since it was out on my Switch and having such an awesome blast!
By the way the new version includes aim assist and gyro aiming (both "togglable" on and off), so there's a lot more leeway than just your dexterity with the right stick 😃
Can't recommend this enough to anyone who likes old school shooters!

@Agramonte I get your point and I don't think you're completely off-base, but I think you're exaggerating the percentage of enthusiasts like us on this site who like to play a lot of different games.
If we look at the sales charts, I think what emerges is that both markets are stagnant and repetitive, it's just that Japanese stagnation looks anime while Western stagnation looks edgy.
You're certainly right about the Japanese playing fewer Western games than we do Japanese, though.

@Agramonte "is a Stagnant / Monotone market. The rest of the industry moved on instead of "Catering" to it. "

Ah yes, the super varied Western market moved on to greener pastures, like having GTA, Minecraft, COD and FIFA in the top 10 of every country every week. Now that's what I call a diverse market!

@nessisonett nooooo don't do this to me! Lol
I love love love that battle theme, what's wrong with it? 😁
It's so pompous yet not self-serious, I think it fits like a glove in a DQ game personally!

@NEStalgia don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree! The amount of tracks is abysmal compared to the number of locations and hours sunk into the game, 100% agreed 👍🏻 I just really like most of the tracks actually in the game 😃

For those who say the music is bad, well, the MIDI music in the PS4 version was obviously a let down, but the tracks themselves are very good, especially the battle theme; listen to the orchestral versions, they're on a whole other level.
I agree, though, that for such a sprawling RPG the number of tracks is pretty limited, which makes them kinda grating after a while.

@TwomanybuttonS "go eat farts" made me chuckle quite a bit, not gonna lie 😂

You're a towel!

Guys, sorry to break it to you, but you're all wrong...

It's obviously gonna be three different versions of R*'s Table Tennis!

Gotta love that subheader 😁

Hype! The first one was really good.

@Ambassador_Kong if you recognize that, then why are you still throwing around incorrect buzzwords like "lazy devs" instead of calling it mismanagement or greed on the investors' part?
I don't get clinging to this objectively wrong and potentially harmful idea of laziness, when it has nothing to do with it.

@fR_eeBritney yeah now I'm defending corporations, I just can't with you.
I started out super nice and comprehensive and told you it's ok to have your opinion, but if I tell you why it's a bad one and you insist, what do I have to do?
If you read that as me defending corporations, I'm sorry but your comprehension isn't very good.
I was explaining to you how actual devs have no responsibility on the decision making behind a game, they're just underpaid workers like you and me, and was trying to tell you why "lazy devs" is the pinnacle of ignorance.
But yeah by all means read that as you wish.

The fact you call having actual arguments "You’re nitpicking everyone’s comments because they didn’t explain (in excruciating detail) the reasons for their word choices."
tells me it was a mistake to try and friendly explain why your opinion wasn't well substantiated. I should know better.

@fR_eeBritney is that all you can offer as a reply?
As I said, I don't even like Battlefield, but you just don't know what you are talking about.
Decisions aren't "lazy", they're profit-driven, which is even worse but that's how the world goes.
Management sees that 98% of people buys Battlefield for the MP section, and thus realize the MP section is way more profitable than the SP. Result: SP is cut.

How the hell are devs lazy when the SP you want them to work on doesn't even exist? Surely you get how that makes no sense whatsoever?
You think game companies are places where devs walk in and just create as they please?
Do you think any of the devs actually on the ground has any say in their output?
If you don't know this stuff, just don't talk about it and avoid insulting the hard work of underpaid and mistreated workers, please.

@Ambassador_Kong yes dude, it's laziness, that's exactly the word for it 👍🏻😑

It's not mismanagement or one of infinite other things that can go wrong, no, it's the individual devs working on a single mesh each who are lazy and spend all day on their phone and taking naps because they don't have bosses managing their work, that's why when Splatoon 2 shipped there were only 2 lines of code.
Yeah, this certainly makes a lot of sense! Boy are a you funny one 😂

@Ambassador_Kong read a report on crunch culture or two, and then look up the salaries of devs.
When you come back, I've got sackcloth and ashes here ready for you.

@fR_eeBritney and people who understand this better than you are trying to explain to you that your perception is wrong; there's absolutely nothing wrong with that! If every perception was the same, we'd be all experts on everything.

It's just that what you said, while valid as your perception, is factually wrong.
You cite SP games with tacked-on MP modes, but they're games that have nothing to do with Battlefield (they're not even in the same genre), and that trend has been dying for a decade, which is when MP became the main source of revenue (and thus focus) of big companies.
COD only offers a campaign (when it does) because it's expected, not because it sells copies; the vast, vast majority of people buy it to play with friends.

I don't play Battlefield so I don't know first hand, but saying a AAA dev team is lazy is simply sacrilegous. Also, I don't get why a MP game should cost less or require less creativity, I don't even know where to begin with that.

Oh and I'm a single player only guy, I very rarely play multiplayer, even less so online.
That doesn't mean I didn't get my money's worth with Splatoon 2 for example, which sorta has a single player thing but that's an extra at best. It's an MP game, why should I expect quality SP like that of BOTW or Dishonored or whatever? That'd be on me, not on the game.
You gotta understand that different games have different priorities and goals.

@Northern_munkey no offence taken whatsoever, sorry if I gave you that impression! I just wanted to clear that out because I've seen some confusion about it multiple times over the internet 😃
Btw I'm not familiar with this blackface thing either, I always assumed she was of South American descent, given her last name. I'm not well versed in pop stars lol 😆

@Northern_munkey Idk if she's Italian or not, nor do I know anything about what @Arnna said, but I can say for certain that we Italians are mostly white, although of course nowadays we're way more integrated with other ethnicities just like the rest of the world. I don't understand why Americans are confused about that: what they call "white" comes from us Europeans, as opposed to "black" having lineage from Africa and "hispanic" from South America. Simple as that.
I know that 100 years ago Italians and Irish were not considered white cause they weren't protestants, but that has everything to do with dehumanization and nothing to do with ethnicity, and it's high time Americans get a grip on that.
Hope it clears things up a bit!

@Spiders great comment!

@Th3solution 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This is getting tiresome in my opinion.

1) that's gotta be the ugliest infographic I've ever seen;

2) I guess I won't play football games anymore: I hate the F2P/seasonal nonsense model because it basically adds up to nickel and diming the player for every single part of the game, and FIFA, well...it's FIFA.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but we cannot lose to a team hasn't seen a finale in 55 years 😘😂

@rjejr ahahahah that's quite a peculiar stance, but I guess I get where you're coming from ahahahah 😄

I also really like 3D platformers and curse the day the industry collectively decided to move past them, but hey we're seeing some kind of resurgence these laste few years, so fingers crossed for the future.

That said, I get the mobility angle because I didn't really fall in love with FPS games until I started playing so-called "boomer shooters" and wondering to myself why they don't make them anymore. Again.
And again these last few years a lot of indies started pumping out retro-inspired FPS games following the release of DOOM 2016, and now mobility and fast paced action are coming back to FPS games, after 10+ years of cowering behind cover waiting for the strawberry jam to slowly drip away from the borders of the screen.

So yeah, I'm not sure if that can help, maybe FPS games are just not your cup of tea 😃
I for one don't really like Uncharted-style games, but I get why they're good at what they do, they're just not for me 😃

TL;DR: try DOOM 2016 and/or Eternal, those do in fact have a double jump!
Lol 😆