@Shepherd_Tallon
Yeah Sony will probably want it to be a true next generation vr headset, a bit like with the dualsence controller is a next gen upgrade. Yeah a tidier wireless vr headset would interest me, as someone with ocd I know the current version would drive me a bit mad 😄

I don't have psvr and I haven't tried vr yet in general to be honest, I'm waiting to see what a potential wireless version with less clutter etc would be like on ps5 if they do make one that is. Perhaps this is just because the ps5 is next generation and more powerful, I mean why develop ps5 games that are limited to the ps4 vr technology. Maybe the ps4 vr games will run better by backwards compatible on ps5 anyway.

@InvaderJim
That is good to know, I will give it a watch myself 👍

@InvaderJim
I think digital foundry did a video about the series x loading, but I haven't watched it yet. Yeah perhaps a external ssd will improve ps4 backwards compatible games. I just have a standard external hard drive, and I don't think i will bother upgrading to a external ssd, but if there is a certain ps4 game that I want to load faster then I will perhaps put it on the ps5 ssd if it is a lot faster loading.

Isn't this the ps5 edition of the game, so it is actually optimised for the ssd? I think some people might be mistaken thinking this is how fast it will load ps4 games. However hopefully ps4 games might load a bit faster like if installed on the ssd rather than external drive. I have a external 1TB drive for my ps4 pro, however that is just a standard hard drive so I don't think the ps4 games will load faster when connected to the ps5.

It seems lots of people moaning in the comments again 🙄, I used to enjoy reading comments on push square as was always less toxic than sites like n4g, but now it is just the same. To be honest I'm actually happy to see the ps5 next to people, and as for the video quality, it will probably be better quality if watching it on YouTube rather than through a website. It shouldn't be long now until we see the UI and see western hands on etc.

To be honest, the article doesn't actually say paid MT, but that you can earn currency by playing online, however It will be disappointing if it does have paid MT too. I don't think this game should be anymore than £50 or like others have said it would have been a good playstation plus game

I'm hoping Sony do a free upgrade for last of us 2 and ghost of tsushima. I can understand not doing a free upgrade for older games like spiderman etc, however seen as they are still new games that released this year, it would be a good will gesture to do a free upgrade even if they also sell a remaster for people that don't already own the games.

To be honest this game doesn't look that good anyway and was originally coming to ps4 and xbox one, so I don't think it matters too much. I was quite disappointed to hear about spider man and horizon being cross gen, although I'm sure I heard that development started on ps4 so probably wasn't ps5 exclusives to begin with. Hopefully God of war and gran turismo 7 will be proper exclusives, and if not then I think that will be a problem

To be honest i hope it doesn't work out for Sony and they stop releasing games on pc, even older games. Surely Sony can see how it has affected xbox sales, and its not like playstation exclusive games don't sell well as exclusives. Xbox doesn't have anything worth buying in my opinion so it makes sense to sell them on pc and throw them into a cheap service like game pass. Hopefully HZD sales on pc wasn't that great to discourage Sony with considering other games and to not waste playstation studios time on optimising for pc. Also xbox and pc fanboys are already annoying so Sony releasing games on pc would only make them more annoying lol

@solocapers
The playstation plus numbers are paid subscribers. Xbox live paid subscribers will be much lower than playstation plus. The number Microsoft share are people just connected to the service including free users and mobiles etc.

To be honest, not knowing the price yet doesn't really bother me too much. I'm more interested in seeing the UI and console breakdown and more games myself. But for those complaining about the price not been revealed yet, it is kind of Microsofts fault really. Microsoft doesn't seem that bothered about selling more consoles than Sony, so I'm more surprised that Microsoft hasn't revealed the price yet. Sony on the other hand are very stubborn and won't reveal the price until Microsoft does 🤔😂

How does it reduce the file size though? I stopped playing it online because of all the updates and install size

Thats cool if it is coming to ps4, I have been meaning to get this game on switch anyway so might still do that as it will motivate me to play on my switch lite, lol. Streets of rage 4 is another game I'm interested in for the switch too instead of ps4 version. I saw the digital foundry videos for both cuphead and Streets of rage 4 and they seem to look and run good on the switch.

Is it just me or does this look a different shape than the actual ps5 does?

@Ridwaano
Yeah i know, I was just meaning the box under the tv isn't the right shape for ps5 anyway

@MarcG420
That's true, I forgot about psvr to be honest

Well that makes sense then if it was for ps4, as the box under the tv is the right shape for a ps4 or ps4 pro laid flat. If it was ps5 the box would have needed to be wider rather that deep like in this picture. The colour scheme is either a coincidence or maybe Sony already decided at the time on the ps5 colour, and would be able to just change the box for ps5 then.

@Ridwaano
Yeah that is what I was thinking too, the box doesn't seem wide enough to lay the ps5 flat. But the ps5 is probably not as big as it appears in the pictures.

Hopefully this will shut up the xbox fanboys with their fake outrage about ps5 only doing 30fps. I personally don't mind 30fps in certain games, but having the option is nice to see which i prefer.

I think there will be other colours eventually. However this picture is definitely fake, if you look closely at the controller it is still white at the back of the handles 😂

To be honest, I actually think the difference could be $100/£100. Even though the drive won't cost much, the physical model could get away with the higher price and with the advantage of being backwards compatible with disks too, rather than just digital. And the digital model would let sony still be able to sell for $400 for the base digital model, especially with the rumours of the cheaper xbox lockard thing. But regardless I will be getting the one with physical drive.

@ApostateMage
To be honest they do look very short. Personally I think it looks good in this angle, but as someone else said in the comments it doesn't appear to be curvy but maybe it is just the reveal images that make it look more curvy

@EternalOptimist1
I was actually thinking the same thing earlier before I read your message 👍someone did a 3D rotating render of it on ps5 reddit site, and it looks quite good to be honest.

The size doesn't bother me if it stays cool and quiet. However what is bothering me is getting used to the shape. All those curves and uneven angles , I don't think will do My ocd any good 😂 I lm looking forward to see the breakdown of the hardware and see it from different angles.

I personally don't have a problem with 30fps as long as its smooth and stable. I'm sure games that are usually 60fps will continue to be like first person shooters, fighting games, racing and sports games etc. I think I will upgrade to 4k TV ready for ps5, 1080p is fine for now with my ps4 pro.

To be honest, when I first saw the design reveal I was discusted with it 😂 but it doesn't look too bad on its side, and as with the duelsense pad I'm getting used to it. I wonder if the curvy shell is to do with airflow for cooling purpose rather than just to look different?

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know the reason why ps5 has 825GB ssd rather than the standard 1tb like in the pro? Its seems a odd number to have, maybe it is to do with the highly customised design rather than just trying to save a bit of money. I've heard rumours of a 2nd model with double the storage as a option, i would probably get that one myself if there is a option.

@Northern_munkey
Maybe certain games make more sence for a remaster, such as bloodbourn with the bad frame pacing or whatever might need redoing etc. But I think what is putting people off is because with the ps5 being backwards compatible, then it doesn't really need it, especially for newer exclusives that have come out in the last couple of years, as they could easily just increase the frame rate, and or resolution with a patch i imagine. But like I said hopefully just certain older titles like bloodboure, but not newer titles such as the last of us 2.

@JJ2
Yeah the duelsense pad looks quite cool, i was a bit put off with the colors at first but starting to grow on me now. To be honest there is not many console designs I did like the look of, but after a while they just become part of the furniture, lol

@JJ2
No i think it was on the mystic YouTube channel, he was actually saying not to believe all rumours anyway. But i have heard about the ps5 being big and bulky a few times. It shouldn't really matter, but having OCD makes the design a big thing for me. It took me ages to get used to the ps4 pro design to be honest.

@ztpayne7
Yeah that's true, i think maybe I'm just feeling a bit impatient waiting for the unveiling and this article didn't exactly help much, lol. Yeah Sony have two massive exclusives to launch on ps4 yet, so hopefully they will look and play better on ps5 without making them remastered games to purchase again.

I'm starting to feel disappointed and underwhelmed about the ps5 even before the unveiling if I'm honest. I'm not really interested in the souls type games and i think bluepoint doing two of them is a waste, perhaps a metal gear solid remake would be better. There is also a rumour that ps5 is very bulky and ugly looking design too, sorry if i sound very negative but for me the design of the actual console is important as is big exclusives from day one and not lots of remasters ect. I hope I'm proved wrong though and it is a great unveiling.

Just started the last of us remastered today on my pro, to prepare me for part 2 and to see what it is like with ps4 Pro enhancements. I designed to play it at 60 frames as it does seem to look better, i currently only have a 1080p TV anyway but some games look really good with supersampling. Will probably get a new TV around the time of getting ps5. This is actually my third play of the last of us as I already played it twice on ps3 lol

I'm surprised how bad it is running, however most if not all 3rd party games did seem to run better on the 360, even though ps3 was overall the more powerful console. I have a feeling that next gen the 3rd party games will run similar on both ps5 and series x, maybe even run better on ps5 with ease of development and the fact that unreal engine 5 has been optimised around the ps5, Epic did say they have been working with Sony for a few years on it too.

I've been subscribed to PlayStation now for the last few months while in lock down, and been enjoying games that I wouldn't have overwise. I played doom and currently finishing control, I downloaded just cause 4 too but yet to play it.

There was a guy( I think he is called Tommy fisher or something like that) who claimed to have inside knowledge and he said techland had been bought by Microsoft and that remedy and housemarque had been acquired by Sony. However he also claimed ps5 would be 13 teraflops 😂 and we know now that was wrong. However i do think housemarque should be a studio sony could look into buying if they haven't already.

More than likely the ps5 would be having this feature anyway, just not announced yet as with other stuff they are yet to announce. However if for whatever reason Sony wasn't planning such a feature, then with Microsoft doing it then Sony will hopefully too, as the negative pr would be bad. The same thing I think will happen with developers and publishers, if some wasn't planning free upgrades then seeing some developers already confirming it then they will hopefully follow too.

I think people will be very disappointed with the visuals next gen, at least for a few years. I know we haven't seen much yet, but what we have seen is average. Hopefully sony can have some great exlusives ready for launch to stand out.

I've had a ps4 since 2015 and only pushed the share button about twice and one of those was probably by accident😂 maybe this new create button could allow people to create demos for friends to play, I'm sure i heard about a patent for something like that.

@JJ2
Yeah i have covers on mine too, the new sticks do look like they will be more comfortable though.

@Beebs83
Yeah that's true, hopefully there will be a black console too. But if it's only a two colour option, I wouldn't mind mainly white

As someone with ocd, I'm struggling a bit to get used to the two colour design, it will probably look better in person though. One thing I'm happy about though is the sticks look like they have a grip texture around the edges. I have quite thin fingers and find the ps4 sticks a bit uncomfortable when clicking them in from the edge of the sticks.

@Anti-Matter
Yeah that's cool, just having a laugh. Lots of time to myself at the moment 😂

@Anti-Matter
No offence, but you seem a bit obsessed with cartoonish/ kiddie games, lol. Actually Microsoft seem to be quite focused on them kind of games lately 😂

Hope this is not another April fools, lol

@YepYepYep
Sounds good, maybe it could also free up resources to the GPU and CPU and could help make it punch above its weight. To be honest I was slightly disappointed when I first heard Mark Cerny say 36 compute units in his talk, lol

@veryhoudini11
Thanks for the reply, sure sounds impressive tech

Can someone who understands how it works explain what benefits the fast ssd will have other than faster loading. If the ssd is as good as they say would they have been better having more Ram and bigger GPU too? Or is the narrow fast GPU design better suited to faster ssd? I did watch the mark cerny presentation, but more of it went over my head and I lost concentration a few times, lol

I hope the specs are right as it matches the gpu speed that was found online. However I did hear on a podcast from someone who claims to have a source that Sony was aiming for 13.3 tflops but due to heating issues they may lower it. I hope the ps5 is more powerful just to see the reaction on certain xbox fanatics. However if aiming for 11-12 tfops would prevent a loud console then i would prefer that.