Sony’s doing some research into PlayStation 4’s popular Remote Play feature, potentially teasing some tantalising new ways to play. As part of a survey shared on Reddit, the manufacturer asks whether respondents would be interested in streaming their games to other devices like the Nintendo Switch or Apple TV. It also asks whether users would be enticed by an offline version of Remote Play, though it doesn’t elaborate on how this would actually work.
Elsewhere in the questionnaire, the platform holder posits the possibility of playing previous generation games such as PSone and PS2 via Remote Play. There are also references to minor quality of life improvements, such as the removal of unused controls on touchscreens to free up display space.
But perhaps most interesting of all is reference to a smaller, portable “on-the-go” DualShock, which would include a screen and allow you to play your games in a more convenient, Wii U-esque format. They’re all interesting ideas, and while they’re unlikely to all be in active production, it’s fascinating to learn a little more about where the Japanese giant’s mindset is at. How do you think Remote Play could be improved? Play anywhere in the comments section below.
Although probably unlikely, remote play on the switch would be sick. Also, offline remote play is good as well. Having to rely on a good stable internet for it to play well can be a bit of a hassle (from my experience anyway).
Play PlayStation games on the Nintendo Switch?
Hell has officially frozen over.
Switch support would be insane! Maybe could even open the door to franchise crossovers!!
Do all of you know what this would mean? FF7R on the friggin Switch. That's what.
I wouldnt be surprised is playing on switch happens i mean originally the playstation was getting designed by nintendo and final fantasy did start on the nessnes and the saying the enemy of my enemy etc
Remote play on Switch would be cool, especially if it would work with Switch docked (I have the two hooked up to different TVs, so it would enable me to play my PS4 games on both).
I Would like them to Make a new handheld
@johnny30 Yeah Until You Get Stabbed In The Back By That Enemy
@Averagewriter I think Sony Should take one more crack at the Handheld market learn from what they did wrong with the vita and go from there they could even have it as a companion for the ps5.
I read that headline 8 times and it still won't sink in.
Sony streaming on Switch has to be one of the end sign times along w/ the fires, locust swarms, coronavirus and lizards falling from trees.
At this point Sony might as well just come out with a new handheld and call it Muerte.
I'm down for streaming to Switch, but you gotta admit: this is the funniest possible way to get Persona 5 on the Switch, and currently the most likely.
Playstation will eventually be a tile on a Nintendo home screen.
@johnny30 Playstation was always designed by Sony. Lol. Nintendo signed a contract for Sony to develop a CD-add on. There's plenty of articles about it that you can google to bring you up to speed.
Hang on a sec here, off-line remote play? If the devices are not connected its not remote play, Its no play, or mobile version play, or someone was having a office drinking party and thought it would be a great idea to troll reddit. But one thing is for sure, it an't remote play. But hey, we could all pretend those smart guys at PS HQ have mastered Quantum entanglement and instead of world domination they remote play as the clear choice for the greatest break through in physics in the 21st Century.
Not really. Not a huge fan of streaming.
I want a Playstation hybrid. Or, barring that, a new handheld. Something actually portable.
Too bad neither is likely to happen.
I got a switch lite in September, and to be honest i have not used it much. If remote play goes to switch, it would probably motivate me to use the switch more. Ive never used remote play before, is it something that just works on the same Wi-Fi, or can it be used on the go? For example when i visit my parents who live near can i use it on a different Wi-Fi with my ps4 pro on standby?
Also i must admit when i heard the rumours of ps4 games going to pc i was a bit concerned. However if ps5 games are exclusive then i wouldn't mind so much about older games going to pc. Also maybe if Sony will remote play to the switch then perhaps they will put playststion now on there too, i mean as it is now, as i don't see sony putting games day and date on the service like Microsoft does
I'd have to see it in action but I have a PS4, I have a Switch, so the possibility of PS4 remote play through Nintendo's device is intriguing. Would the two companies actually play nice is the question.
This would be amazing! Bring it on. No idea how it would work but I want it.
I absolutely would be interested in remote play on my Switch, its ironic how much of a flop Wii U became (I really liked it), yet it wasn't far off being the template for where all 3 companies are heading
Sure! Would love it.
Would also love Microsoft Xcloud and SteamLink! I use both all the time now on my commute.
@TooBarFoo i was thinking the same thing...offline remote play...what?
Yes certainly would be great
I’d like remote play for Apple TV since I got one in the bedroom aswell. They did release it for iOS, now just add tvOS and I’m happy!
Ha! I already says sony should make ds5 pro with screen and sell it for $150 or less so the gamepad can be used as portable psnow/remote play machine
It's even better if standard ds5 come with 4-5inch screen
As a parent to two young children, the ability to do this would be great. My Vita does an ok job already.
Without owning a switch though, does it have 4 shoulder buttons? The lack of L2 & R2, not to mention R3 and L3 turned alot of people off using the feature on vita
YES PLEASE!!! Would love this as I do most of my gaming in bed.
@Averagewriter you forgot to say it would have access to switch games too! Hehe
More expense, more proprietary hardware... They're running in the opposite direction of all trends... You all have a perfectly great portable, internet connected, screen.
Sony, however, don't have the infrastructure of Google and can't make a streaming service half as good... So this is their solution. Buy yet more hardware and screens for the job in order to do it offline and downloaded...
They're desperate. They don't know what to do.
Remote play on Switch would be fabulous.
Yes to the remote play on Switch, no to the portable controller. The screen would be too tiny for me to play games on.
@Real_Obsi Yep the best selling console this generation is desperate only 100 million customers. Its not like they have other things at Sony... 🤣
They are going too make a killing on software.
@Rob_230 Switch does indeed have four shoulder buttons and clickable sticks.
Being able to remote play my PS4 on my Switch would be awesome.
I'd play it on my Switch for sure. Final Fantasy remake lying down in bed sounds great.
Holy cow, do they even have to ask? Okay, I'm normally skeptical about streaming on Switch because our 4G struggles with its 720p that many streams like to default to, but Remote Play has a lower resolution option for Vita, so as long as it survives and the texts and features remain readable... of course I would be up for it! And a GamePadesque DualShock to use RP on sounds neat as well. Although I'm not sure what they mean by "offline Remote Play" - a similarly GamePadesque ability to stream your home console "off TV" or while in another room? But RP already allows it for the most part.
Both options sound more viable than "strap a gamepad to your iPhone", both sound more likely to happen than Vita compatibility... and both factually put me in the market for PS5. Dixi.
I want a portable controller but o want Legend of Dragoon and Heavenly Sword 2 more.
@BionicDodo Thanks. In which case id strongly consider getting a switch or switch lite if this feature was added. It would be really helpful. Although im probably going to get one at some point anyway. I do love me some Zelda
@TurboTom It has to be in the Wifi same Network
Remote play over 4g and not WiFi only would be better
As long as they don’t abandon their support for remote play on the Vita!
Well, if it means I can continue playing Death Stranding on the loo, I'm all for it. Someone needs to deliver those packages after all.
It would be pretty cool, I don’t think I’d use it much as I just prefer the Vita’s controls but it’s a neat idea.
@Real_Obsi Sony desperate? Hahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, man.
They need to get ps now on more platforms really
@InsertUsername yeah i know but before that Nintendo were originally gonna design it
@Gamer83 I think Nintendo would very much play nice in this scenario. Think about this, there are probably a lot of Sony fans who would want the Switch as a secondary console, but are on the fence about purchasing the system. Remote Play on Switch could be that which tips the scale towards buying the system.
Nintendo put itself in a good position here. The Switch is VERY popular (maybe not so much in the UK) and it fills a gap that neither Microsoft nor Sony has been able to fill. Nintendo is also very open to working with outsiders since it makes the Switch that much more appealing. Nintendo is Switzerland.
Primary, secondary, or tertiary console - a sale is a sale. Nintendo is perfectly with that since it provides a much more unique experience than having an Xbox as a secondary console (I own all three and neither one of the three are "primary" "secondary" or "tertiary" - whichever game is my focus on whatever system is what matters to me - though PS4 and Switch have the most attention for me right now since I playing both Death Stranding and Dragon Quest XI S).
Why do you think Microsoft decided to heavily invest in cross-pollination with Nintendo? Microsoft has a handheld market without designing a handheld itself! I can almost bet that there are already talks of an xCloud App for Switch, too.
@Vorlon I think that’s almost certain on ps5.
This would be awesome.
Right up to the point those crappy joy-cons begin to drift.
@IonMagus thanks for the reply, that's good to know
@SirRealDeal that’s why you get a pro controller or send it to Nintendo for repair
And here we go with the console wars
No. That's why Switch is ultimately crap regardless of how many units have sold.
Buy another controller just to be sure your $300 Switch will be worth it?
I'd be ecstatic over Sony and Nintendo joining forces. Put some First party Nintendo games on the PS4 while you're at it. It would be gaming paradise, except for Microsoft users.
This would be amazing, so it's an all the yes from me.
@wiiware That would be amazing and perfect for smaller/ indie games, I definitely love that idea rather than this troll idea
As good as this would be it makes me pine for what the vita could have been wish I could pair a DualShock with that , ive been looking at the hori game grip but it’s hellish expensive now
@GKO900 Heck, even if I can only play games on ds5 with screen on the same wifi, it won't be a problem for me since sometimes I just want to play some indie games for 10-15 minutes and I don't want to turn on my tv. Playing indie games on switch is okay but I miss trophy, especially if the games has good plat trophy (like shantae hgh and transistor).
THis Is fake Sony has is own survey Program called player Lounge, which I'm a part of.
Does Push square just publish any junk?
I do like the Switch but am put off buying one due to them selling old games at full price.
Would love to play Skyrim & Witcher on it but there is no way I am paying £50 for each.
Maybe remote play might tempt me
A DS4 (or would that be 5?) with a built in screen?! Just add slots for SD cards and Vita game cards, allow downloads of Vita & PSP games and that's job done, surely?
This would be awesome. I really like Vita remote Play but it's just up and down in performance. The android remote play is ok but as soon as controller is connected it seems to lag with Bluetooth and wi-fi's connection. A Playstation Switch sorts these issues out!
@marloc_x Problem is that Microsoft seems to want to be there first.
As long as they have no plans for a new handheld and the only way to access the remote play is through a Playstation app on Switch that you have to sign in to, I can't see what the downside would be.
I think they're just throwing ideas out there, but switch support would be awesome. Though I liked the vita, the lack of L/R/2/3 really bugged me. Could of scrapped that gimmicky back touchscreen.
No problem at all!
I'd welcome both..
@SirRealDeal Uncalled for. A simple “eh, I don’t have a switch so it’s not a big deal for me” would have been cool, but nope. You had to be rude. I got a pro controller because I wanted it. If the Switch was ultimately crap it would have ended up like the Wii U. 52 million units in almost three years with highly praised games means they’re doing something right.
Haha.. yeah.. Nintendo figured out how to sell a product with well known manufacturing defects to the masses.
You call that doing something right.
This is a splendid idea, for example if your family is watching TV on the living and you want to play PS4 you can use your switch and stream the PS4 gameplay in your bed. It needs to happen, the whole point of remote play is to be able to stream PS4 gameplay on any device, switch could make a fine addition and even this could raise PS4/5 sales for switch owners.
@TooBarFoo that could work with devices connected on the same network, in that case you don't need internet to stream from PS4 to switch. Even with Bluetooth is possible.
@SirRealDeal Manufacturing defect sure, but not everyone has the same issue. I for one didn’t have my PS4 eject disks automatically even though a lot of other people had that issue. It sells because of its games and portability, be in denial all you want. The Switch is great.
@Th3solution Except though of course it actually requires owning a PS4 to actually be able to use remote play....So not at all Sony games on the Nintendo Switch...
@Shepard93n7 Local remote play is already the default if you are on the same LAN, That is not offline.
Bluetooth will not support the data throughput required. In fact both in release and unimplemented RFCs Bluetooth has focused more and more on low energy requirement use. Bluetooth 3 spec basically include the 802.11 standard as its high bandwidth option i.e Use wifi if you want over 3Mbps. Bluetooth is great, and getting better, at a lot of things but by design it is not, and is not planing to become, a go to solution for high bandwidth, low latency, bi-direction streaming. Its bandwidth limit is just about tapped out at reasonable quality two way audio or high quality one way audio.
@GamingFan4Lyf One of the problems in that line of reasoning is the core function of a console is to sell games. No one makes enough money selling the actual console itself to stay in business. While it may cover its cost it comes nowhere close to recouping all the marketing, cost of sale, development ect. It's all about that 30% cut on every game sold. This is why PS4 is able to discount its first party games quite quickly. They act as the gateway to get the PS4 in place and the licence cost for every piece of software sold generates huge profit for Sony. It is the same reason Nintendo does not discount it's own 1st party games to the same extent. While it has improved with the switch Nintendo did not have the mass 3rd party sales so had to turn every 1st party release into a long tail income stream.
If you buy a switch to play PS4 games on its a lose/lose for Nintendo. So unless Sony is will to hand over a cut of every game streamed, which would never happen, this is a none starter. More likely would be xbox gamepass, as I could see Microsoft doing a subscription share for accounts using the switch.
@Neolit Just b/c it makes sense doesn't mean it can't also represent the end times.
This. Only w/ Nintendo and Sony.
@invictus4000 yes, yes, yes
@johnny30 Nothing from what I've read over the years ever says that Nintendo were going to develop it. The contract always had Sony developing it with some help from Nintendo's R&D. The tech behind the add-on was always a product of Sony, hence why the Nintendo never tried to sue Sony for the PlayStation name, when they set out on their own.
@InsertUsername the Nintendo playstation lol https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/01/02/nintendo-playstation-rare-sale-console-snes-auction-2020/
Nice Sony!!! Making the brand useless and making the competition better
@AFCC ZBOTW is a game I'd really like to play.
It would boost hardware sales for Nintendo but potentially reduce software sales, perhaps Nintendo would get a streamers fee, I’m not 100% sure what this would mean for Sony though, perhaps some increased Sales over Xbox due to exclusivity. Brand penetration into Nintendo Platform, but that can work both ways...
If PS is going to Switch, Switch best come to PS dammit - there are some cool looking games on that system but not prepared to buy a console I would only use for a select few things and then have it gather dust (see: 3DS)
@nookie_egg I think you're confusing Remote Play with PS Now, PlayStation games are not coming to switch, it's just an app to stream the gameplay from your PS4 at home to your switch using WiFi connection.
@TooBarFoo I see your point, but I don't think it is a likely scenario that someone buys a Switch JUST to play PS4 games - unless that person just has money burning a serious hole in their wallet.
A more likely scenario is that someone would buy the console with PS4/PS5 streaming as a gateway to getting the Switch and then dabbling in software available - even if just to play indie games, niche Japanese games, and some Nintendo exclusives of interest and leave the rest of the AAA gaming to PS4/PS5/Remote Play.
I don't see Remote Play on Switch being a system seller. I see it as a tipping point for people on this site who may be on the fence on the Switch as a secondary console. To people here, it would be Vita 2 (only without the Sony branding).
Sony gains in the same way it already gains by having Remote Play available elsewhere. Which is really more just good will to gamers invested in the PlayStation brand. The only difference is that most people already have laptops or smart phones - they may or may not have a Switch. I guess Sony gains a potential gateway only in the opposite way of what I described - Nintendo fans on the fence about a PlayStation buy the system for it's exclusives and AAA games not available on Switch.
@GamingFan4Lyf I don't see it. If you consider a large percent of the most active game purchasing consumers already have multiple platforms. So someone like either of us sees a game we like the look of. At the moment I would put performance over convenience for some kinds of games and convenience over performance for others, but if I could have both performance and convenience I would simply make my purchase on the platform that gave me both. It is a lose/lose for Nintendo. It makes zero business sense unless Sony is offering a very large fee for hosting the application.
If you buy a TV today it will come with a number of third party apps installed. In the past Netflix paid a very large fee to be included by default and even larger to have a dedicated Netflix button on the remote. At one point, in the early days, it was paying Samsung close to 30% of the cost of the TV to host its service. It also paid a lot to cable companies to be included on their set top boxes. But now that Netflix holds a dominant position it no longer pays. You can't sell many TVs if your set does not support Netflix. You may remember Samsung tried pulling Netflix from its TVs to force them to keep paying but at that point the tables had turned. Nintendo would risk being Samsung in this arrangement.
Switch hosting PS games would play out in a similar way. Sony would have to offer a fee large enough to offset the loss of revenue AND promotion of a competitor service. In today's market there is no fee that would make sense to both parties. It would have to massive to make it worth Nintendo's risk, around the $250 per console area I would imagine, and that makes no sense from a Sony view point. Basic Economics.
@TooBarFoo But the thing is, Remote Play is 100% free on mobile and PC. What point did Sony have putting Remote Play there? Smartphones lose nothing by having it. PC's lose nothing by having it. It's just...there.
The initial point I was making was replying to someone saying that the companies would have to play nice. Yes, they could play nice since this looks good for both brands.
Nintendo opened up cross-play with Microsoft. It didn't hurt. Nintendo allowed Xbox Live to be on it's platform. It didn't hurt. Nintendo got Cuphead (Microsoft doesn't own Cuphead, but it had a console exclusivity deal). Sony didn't. Nintendo got Ori and the Blind Forest. Sony didn't. Microsoft got consumption numbers (and sales for Ori and the Blind Forest), Nintendo got a bolstered software support.
I still don't see how Nintendo loses by allowing an optional free app to run on it's system. It's simply a communication app to talk to a PS4 over wifi/internet. What fees are even necessary? Congrats, you can talk to your PS4 over Wifi from your Switch!
I am not talking about PS Now (though, I do suspect Microsoft and Nintendo have talked about xCloud on Switch).
Playing nice makes deals. Deals trickle to other endeavors. Gamers win. Nintendo is Switzerland.
@East76landS when I say crossover I mean PS characters on Smash and such...I doubt we will ever play any of the exclusives on either console
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