Naturally, there's lots of talk around next-gen right now, but one question in particular remains a bit of a mystery, particularly for PlayStation 5. If you buy a game on PS4 that later releases for PS5, can you swap to the enhanced version at no extra cost? Interestingly, Electronic Arts now appears to be in favour of such an initiative.
Speaking during an earnings call with investors, EA's CFO Blake Jorgensen comments directly on the matter. "Note that this year the phasing includes the effect of revenue recognition from the games we are launching for the current generation of consoles that can also be upgraded for free for the next generation," he said.
This sounds like certain PS4 games from the publisher are getting souped-up versions for PS5, and players will be able to swap to these next-gen ports for free. Apex Legends is likely getting the PS5 treatment, so it stands to reason other EA titles will be making the jump as well.
While this sounds pretty good, there's a possibility Jorgensen is merely referring to PS5's backwards compatibility. Sony has said the "overwhelming majority" of PS4's back catalogue will function on PS5 -- could EA simply be saying your PS4 games will work on the new console with no extra purchase necessary?
We think it's probably more than that, though. The executive's wording suggests he's talking about swapping your PS4 games for fancy new PS5 versions. Given other publishers are saying similar things -- Microsoft has been touting its Smart Delivery programme -- we think this is pretty clear.
So, certain EA games should be upgradeable to PS5 for free. What do you think of this? Are you happy about this initiative? Challenge everything in the comments section below.
EA spurning an opportunity to make more money from the same games? 🤔
What god-forsaken, twisted alternative reality have I woken up in today?
Not really a big surprise, given they are trying to perpetuate games as a service, so it would make sense the "game" is free to upgrade next gen.
@Its_Carl_Y-all It definitely wouldn't be great, but it might not come across quite as bad as that.
But I agree, they have to match Xbox with this.
It hasn't done Nintendo any harm. Almost every Wii u game was re-released on Switch.
I think this will be very common, to be honest. Sony's yet to confirm it, but there have been rumblings it's doing the exact same Smart Delivery thing.
Well i assume everything will have free update. Like on PS4 Pro.
Yes it makes sense. Xbox has the fabulous Smart Delivery Initiative while PS will have upgrade thingy which is the same 😃
It's ea so won't hold my breath
Yes Sony will do smart delivery. It would be dumb for playstation not to offer the same as Microsoft on this. Jim Ryan said he wanted to help users have a quick transition to next gen, and CD projekt red as good as confirmed playstation would get a similar upgrade model to Microsoft for cyberpunk.
Sooner these consoles are out, the better. I watched a youtube video a few days ago banging on about how Microsoft offering it for valhalla and cyberpunk was a knock out blow to Sony, even though we dont know what Sony are offering yet. Its getting annoying. And yes its partly Sony's fault for not talking yet, but id suggest some youtubers comments and assumptions are quite dangerous.
Sooner the rumour mongering can stop, the better imo
More than likely the ps5 would be having this feature anyway, just not announced yet as with other stuff they are yet to announce. However if for whatever reason Sony wasn't planning such a feature, then with Microsoft doing it then Sony will hopefully too, as the negative pr would be bad. The same thing I think will happen with developers and publishers, if some wasn't planning free upgrades then seeing some developers already confirming it then they will hopefully follow too.
@Rob_230 Well, the good thing is that Sony has so much left to reveal. So they can easily change the tides if they plan it carefully.
It is something I'd thought about myself
I normally buy the latest Fifa game which usually hits us on the last Friday in September.
With the PS5 not due to launch till likely end ofNovember I was going to hold off purchasing till the new console releases (assuming Fifa is available day 1)
Do we even know if FIFA21 is going to be a thing this year considering the current situation?
My bet is 21 will get put back, which makes FIFA20 at around £16 (on PSN) a bargain if it does indeed get upgraded on PS5 for nothing 🤔🤔
With Microsoft getting the ball rolling with some big names I suspect everyone will now follow suit, I don't know of any EA game I'll be buying but it's good to know they're on board too
@Spoonman-2 it'll be there even if they just change the number on the box
FIFA21- Closed Doors Edition?
@Spoonman-2 Yeah its been confirmed there is no delay to Fifa or Madden this year. https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/06/fifa-21-release-date-autumn-not-delayed-coronavirus-12660865/
@JohnnyShoulder why would there be because they just release the same game each year anyway
@FullbringIchigo You know this from your extensive play time with the games?
OK forgive me for sounding negative but surly if you have a PS5 or Series X you will be buying the PS5/SX versions of the games anyway so what's the point
yes i can see it being handy for late adopters and i understand my MS are doing it because the Series X wont have any exclusive games during the first few years but it's a service that isn't really needed just like Backwards compatibility, handy yes but not a necessity
of course it's a good gesture on the part of the publishers too, good PR i suppose
@JohnnyShoulder well i don't buy them but i have a mate who is obsessed with them to the point they are pretty much all he plays and even he says that there hasn't been much innovation in the series lately
First year of PS4 really sounds pointless to me at this point I feel like loads of PS4 games are just going to be re released or a remastered version
I'll believe it when I see it
Good guy EA?
I feel like something out in the cosmos must be broken. The novel coronavirus, President Trump, Final Fantasy VII Remake, EA not being nakedly greedy for once... some metaphysical mechanism somewhere has failed, and the balance of things is spinning out of control.
Technically Sony had a "smart delivery" system of their own already this gen-Crossbuy with the Vita...it would be a great replacement to move it to PS4/PS5 instead.
This is gold.
EA can see this as an opportunity to turn around their absolutely terrible image. Currently the worse in the industry, and voted worst company for several years in a row.
This is smart PR marketing, if they were to follow through.
In regards to this, it was a question I had from the very beginning. I believe if you own the game on PS4 you should get the enhanced version for PS5 for free, unless it's completely remade (as in from the ground up).
@FullbringIchigo Plenty of next gen launch window games will launch first on current gen so smart delivery means you don't have to wait until the next gen version to start playing. You can just pick up the current gen version and play that while waiting for the next gen version.
@Grumblevolcano yes but the next gen systems are backwards compatible so like i said it's not a necessity but it is a nice gesture
@tinCAT-zero Nintendo has re-released a good majority of their Wii-U catalog on the switch, for roughly the same price as they were when they release originally on the Wii-U! What I read this article to mean, is that EA will allow you to upgrade your PS4 title to a PS5 title at no added cost. Whereas, Nintendo, if you bought, for instance, Super Mario Bro's U on the Wii U for 59.99 and then again on the Switch, you paid another $59.99 - again. So $120.00 for the game on both systems. That is not supposed to be the case with EA PS4 titles on the PS5.
That was my point. But it's crazy how Nintendo can get away with doing that and everyone has nothing but praise for them.
@FullbringIchigo but why would you waste additional money to purchase a Series X/PS5 version of the game? If the developer is saying that the PS4 versions of their games would be upgraded for free to the PS5 version. You purchase the PS4 version of the game, you play on your PS4. When you get your PS5, you do whatever it is you have to with EA to upgrade that title to a PS5 version, that takes advantage of the new systems additional resources, there is no point in purchasing the "Series X/PS5" version of the game if they are upgrading them to the new hardware for free.
@tinCAT-zero Amen! I'm really happy I never got a Wii-U, because all those Wii-U ports on the Switch were first time purchases for me. I think all developers need to do something like this. If Super Mario64 ever makes it to the Switch, I shouldn't have to purchase it again in another format for the 3rd or 4th time.
I have a Wii u and every Nintendo console before that and that's why I never bought a Switch. I'm not buying the same games again. The only games I missed out on are Mario Odyssey, Smash and Links Awakening and maybe a couple of others. I think Nintendo are getting away with a lot.
I've pondered if Sony hasn't revealed they're doing this because they are going to literally show it. When they finally do the full reveal for the PS5 I can imagine them giving the info and saying 'here are a few games running their PS5 upgrade patch' and show gameplay from a few first party PS4 games improved.
@tinCAT-zero Re the Switch remasters-you forgot the near perfect reviews too, whereas a lot of 1st party ps4 early/mid gen ones got 7-8's with "Its good but it doesn't do anything new from the last gen version"! Funny how noone is asking them any further details on the online hack,isn't it?
@BearsEatBeets if they do, they have to do something that's better than a frame rate/resolution bump. I mean it'll be fine for the PlayStation audience but it might not be as good incomparison, but we don't know yet. For example, we saw Gears 5 being optimized to run on Series X natively. We saw the game running 100+FPS on campaign mode, 60FPS cutscenes, Ray tracing, ultra settings +additional settings that have yet to be announced for the PC version. A frame rate/res bump is good for that boost capability at the hardware level, but we already know Series X will do the same thing, plus benefit from machine learning tech that will enable games to run in native 4K or add HDR, if the game wasn't de weren't designed for it. We saw that in both Halo 5 and Fusion Frenzy. Smart Delivery seems to promise more than that, but we will definitely see with Xbox's event later this morning.
I see the words "earning call" and "investors".
This statement is not aimed at consumers.
I suspect what he's implying is that they can sell extra copies on ps5 at effectively a free cost to EA because the ps4 version carries all the development costs.
I would not expect to see anything from EA that's free to consumers.
@FullbringIchigo It's a sports game, there is only so much that can changed about the game. One year they changed the player movement and it felt real bad, so getting the balance right is tricky. One of things that attracts people to these games is how each game can feel different, and playing with the latest seasons roster. I know sports games get a bad rap from some corners, but that is usually from people that don't even play them, and a lot of people enjoy them so there is no need to be so negative towards them. If anyone is getting fed up just take a break for a year from the series.
@JohnnyShoulder he won't take a break, he is obsessed with football
Seriously even all his clothes are football based
@FullbringIchigo Well then he only has himself to blame really.
It's at a point where he lives and breaths nothing but football
Or just cross buy
@tinCAT-zero it has given Nintendo plenty of mixed press. The Switch just can’t likely even play the same binaries, much less disks, so it’s accepted, but not without criticism, that they need to re-release all these games. Plus
The Wii U flopped and a lot of money was spent developing some great games few got to experience.
Now, I don’t know what Sony will do, but I am already pre-ordering games I care for on the XBO thanks to the promises of Smart Delivery. Cyberpunk and Assassins Creed Valhalla, so far. That list might expand after MS third party game announcement.
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