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@Oscarjpc do you understand what the word hypocrisy means? One advantage straight off, it gives Sony millions more revenue which they can put back into game development which we then all benefit from. Two it spreads the brand name and the quality of the games, potentially making new hardware customers which again gives them more money. I'm not saying it's awesome or great, just a smart business decision for them.

And if your that bothered about what a billion dollar company is doing and it effects you that much, just take your money elsewhere. I have no loyalty to any plastic box, I just like Sony's games and hardware. I find it strange you think just because you've bought their consoles over the years your entitled to anything!

@Oscarjpc as long as you've got patience then yes you might get to play "EVERYTHING", but it's not guaranteed and you don't know when! Me I like to play games when they come out. By the time they come to pc I'll be paying the next great Sony game. But hey you do you.

@truerbluer you have to spend anywhere from £800 to £1500 for a decent pc to match the ps5. At least £400 on a graphics card to make it a bit future proof, and a decent Cpu and ssd(more games are requiring that now on pc). That's a big out lay. Yeah it's free to game online but enjoy all the cheaters and hackers. And this whole they get to game online for free is funny. You think people that can spend that sort of money would worry about £36 a year? That's the most I've ever paid(sony discounts it at least twice a year) and for that I get 36 plus games and cloud storage.
And yes games are £70, but they seem to drop very quickly. I've picked up games cheaper on the ps store in sales than steam are selling them at. Plus let's be honest most console buyers are casuals, they are not on a site like this. You think they can be bothered with graphics settings and updating the gpu drivers every month? That in 3 to 4 years they will have to start worrying if their pc meets the minimum requirements?

And the whole day and date argument is silly, as it would ruin the whole PlayStation business model. Sony needs to sell consoles, they need to have the ps store in people's homes. Last year they sold around 330 million games, and they have said themselves that digital now accounts for 71% of their sales. That is a massive amount of revenue for them, much bigger than putting the games on a pc where they would not get any cut of the 3rd party sales from people not buying their console. How many fifa/cod/battlefield sales would they lose? No they need to have ps5's in people's houses. I would bet anyone on here no ps5 exclusives will launch day and date this gen. The only time Sony will ever do this is when streaming is the only way. That boxes are no longer a thing, and then it will be a ps app on your TV or computer and you'll play them through their store.

@art_of_the_kill wow a leak said so. It must be true then!

@IonMagi nothing is confirmed, just what you want to believe in your head. At no point have they said day and date releases. Would not make any business sense for Sony's model, it makes sense for MS.

@IonMagi I've seen you say several times in this comments section the games will come to pc day one? Please show us exactly where Jim Ryan said this? He said he wants to get the games to as many people as possible! There are many ways to do this. Mobile, streaming( possibly netflix), the older games to pc as we're seeing.
And the whole just build your own pc makes me laugh. I gamed on pc exclusively for over 20 years. I spent £1000s on new systems, upgrades and monitors over that time just to keep up. Then there is the whole patches, gpu drivers and the big one, cheating! It's massive on pc.
The vast majority of people that buy consoles just want the convenience of putting a box under their TV, turning it on and gaming. You think parents are going to start going out and building their kids pcs? Going to keep upgrading it? No they want to buy a box and not worry for 7 years.
The last pc I had built 4 years ago my eldest plays on. Cost me £1500 and the ps5 is more powerful now. I'm an old git now, I like sitting on my sofa in front of my 55 inch TV with the dualsense. And I'm certainly not prepared to wait 3 to 4 years to play the next GOW.
Personally I think it's a genuis move by Sony. Make millions more from old games, and spread the brand. So they lose a few thousand hardware sales, they potentially could make many many more from people like myself.

After how bad the beta was over the weekend, this and portal are my only hope for this game. Could be really good with some very tense moments. But long term replayability and the quality of the AI defenders might hamper it.

I gave it an 8. I found it fun with interesting story/mechanics, but the repetitive nature of it later on just got old for me. Definitely worth a buy though.

@Sakisa Sony have stated 71% of their sales are digital. So I'd say Sony players have embraced digital too. all we can go on is the physical sales, and on that front the games aren't selling on xbox.

@KayOL77 I'm sure the contracts make very interesting reading. Your right we are in very uncharted waters with two companies taking very different approaches, only time will show who got it right.
But I should imagine a lot of 3rd party publishers are looking at these sales figures of the two platforms and maybe changing their strategies accordingly.

@Fiendish-Beaver my thought on this is that gamepass is changing the buying habits of xbox gamers. I think it's conditioning them to wait on games to see if they drop into gamepass. Tales of arise sold 86% Sony in its first week in the UK, and it seems to be a growing trend. And I say this as someone who subscribes myself.
Will be interesting to see the long term implications of this. Do 3rd party publishers just make deals with MS and drop into gamepass day one? Don't and hope is still sells well? Or worse case it could mean they don't spend the money porting to the machines (a bit more work this gen as they have to take the series s into account), and xbox gamers lose out?
Every advert I've seen for far cry 6 has been with the xbox brand attached, and it still sold 71% Sony.

@Slippship its selling on one console that's less than a year old. Plus Sony themselves have said 71% of their game sales are now digital so who knows how many it's really sold.

Played the first few hours and really enjoying it so far. Runs great, good atmosphere and nice sense of humour. Yeah I could of waited a year and got it on gamepass but life's to short. Plus they have really done a great job with the dualsense, really adds to the game.

@ThroughTheIris56 I would argue it is better. The platform that the gamer has invested in gets the game first, probably the best version. That £450 box has more value! It's not Sony's problem that xbox owners have too wait. Same as its not MS problem Sony players will never get to play starfield. If MS could get away with it they would buy every studio and publisher available and lock them all up behind a gamepass pay wall. And uncle Phil would sleep soundly at night. Right or wrong has nothing to do with it.

@ThroughTheIris56 no they are paying so their platform and the people/ players that invested in it get a great experience. That the platform has value. Exactly the same as MS buying Bethesda, they took the games away from the other 2 platforms so their platform has more value, gamepass has more value. MS didn't give a crap about doing this, it was just good business to them.
The article states Sony are collaborating and publishing the game, why would they let it release on the other platforms at the same time? Would make no sense.

@ThroughTheIris56 all three companies have paid for timed exclusives in the past and will do so again. It's called business. Nothing pathetic about it. Sony is publishing and collaborating on the game, of course they are going to make it at least timed exclusive. Without their money the game might not even have got a remake if they didn't.

@MaccaMUFC but the PS5 has had returnal, ratchet, spiderman MM, sackboy, demon souls already since launch. Yes the xbox has 2 big hitters coming soon, but that's really their first big hitters since the console has launched! And I say this as someone who's had a series x day one and has been waiting for something 1st party to play on it!
The start of 2022 is looking very good for Sony.

Mostly enjoyed it. Quite a few games im going to buy so I suppose it did its job. And 2022 is looking very good. Just wish they hadn't shown deathloop again!
The good thing is they still have plenty of games left to show, I think Sony's future is very bright.

@Z390 I just got a WD SN850 1TB for £170, got myself a £10 heatsink, took a couple of minutes to put together and now I'm just waiting for the email saying I'm in the beta test. 🤞 that's an SSD twice as fast as the xbox proprietary one and cheaper. What cost are we paying?
And it's not as hard as some are making out, I watched a video and a bloke installed one in 2 minutes.
The reason for the speed is so it won't effect games down the line. The true next gen games that are designed to take advantage of the ssd and the ps5 io throughout. Plus in some of the tests I've seen so far, games are loading slightly faster from the m2 drives.

They have missed one little thing in the install. There is a little silver spacer with the screw in the bay. You have to put that into the hole your going to screw into for your ssd.
I've ordered the firecuda 530 with heatsink. I reckon the update will go live at the end of this month 🤞.

@The_New_Butler but so what if it is limited to 1st party and exclusives? That means we the consumer get the very best games that they can make on the hardware available. That the consoles we have bought have value, that Sony's devs can maybe make games and use ideas they never thought possible before because Sony chose this ssd.

@The_New_Butler yes we'll have to see. But even if it is just 1st party and exclusives, we the gamers are going to benefit from Sony's decision to put such a fast ssd in the ps5.

This from the VP of engineering at Epic Games last year:

This goes beyond faster loading speeds. Guaranteeing that level of performance for every PS5 means developers have the freedom to stream so much content every second, which could fundamentally change how levels are designed and how content is streamed.

“The ability to stream in content at extreme speeds enables developers to create denser and more detailed environments, changing how we think about streaming content. It’s so impactful that we’ve rewritten our core I/O subsystems for Unreal Engine with the PlayStation 5 in mind,” he added.

Now they've said unreal 5 is very scalable, so I'm sure the series x/s will still have great looking games.
Me personally I'm glad Sony went this route, for the sake of 2 screws id rather have the fastest/ best tech I can.

@The_New_Butler I think @Jaz007 is right, it's way too early to know if/ when the extra speed will be an advantage. Its well too early in the life cycle to know. But I did read an article with an unreal 5 engine dev the other day that said the higher I/O bandwidth not only helps with loading and streaming assets, but also streaming in textures.
As the unreal 5 engine will probably be one of the most used, it can only help Sony's side. Will that make any real world differences that the average gamer will notice? 🤷. But I do know that it gives Sony's 1st party devs a great platform to make amazing and detailed worlds.

Just managed to preorder the 1tb from overclockers for £198 delivered. Looks pretty straight forward to me installing them, plus can hoover the dust ports whilst I'm at it.

Update, I've just been reading that seagate say the version with the heatsink fits fine, so just paid an extra tenner for that version.

As others have said, Sony haven't done that great in Japan for years. This whole narrative that it's just happening now is stupid.
R&C 2016 27k sales on a 4 million ps4 install base.
New R&C 14k on a 684k (disc version) ps5 install base.
If anything that's better, and probably more have bought it digitally.

Sony will do fine in Japan, probably the same as the ps4. Japan is the land of the handheld(the 2016 chart was nearly all 3ds). They just prioritise the west now, and from the sales data, I don't blame them.

@vict0RGM I prefer Sony's approach. You only have to look at the viewing figures for the horizon forbidden West state of play to see how popular they are. I think Sony will have some type of longer show in the next month when all the focus will be on them. And dropping state of plays keeps the interest going in the platform.

@Loftimus fair one, I'll be playing all the best games to, I just don't have your patience and I don't think £70 for a high quality game is that much these days. Will be interesting to see the effect gamepass and Microsofts very deep pockets has on the gaming landscape long term. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think it's going to be for the better.

@Loftimus you obviously think gamepass is great value and since you continually go on about the £70 price point I don't think your going to enjoy PlayStation much this generation. The £70 price point is here to stay, 3rd party games like battlefield 2042 are £70 on both platforms. Looks like most big titles will be this generation and I really don't see Sony changing either.
As everyone has said, the value of gamepass is subjective to each individual player. I have about 40 games from GP installed on my series x but I've only finished one (desperados 3). Maybe it's my mindset but I find it hard to get invested in the games, they just feel more disposable. Whereas I paid £62 for returnal and after the first hour I was thinking it wasn't for me. But I preservered because I had invested into it and I'm glad I did. 30 hours later and I'm still loving it I think it was worth every penny.
Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to forza h5 and will play it day one, and there are some other great games coming but I think there is value in Sony releasing amazing games that you can't play anywhere else even at £70. MS have still got to show they can make games of the same quality to really trouble Sony. I believe there is room for both models.
And concerning R&C, it has 5 difficulty settings, the top one is apparently brutal at times so there is challenge there. Oh and its bloody beautiful and plays great.

Started R&C today and I'm really really impressed. Got to be one of the best looking games I've ever seen. And it's just so much fun to play. And after returnal continually kicking my butt(just one more run) it's just what I needed!

@Juanalf if you want to play them on the release date you buy a PlayStation. Want to wait 2-3 years and pay full price whilst they have probably been put on psplus, buy a PC.

Bit gutted no campaign but if the multi player is back to bf3 and bf4 with those only in battlefield moments I'll probably get it. Always think the price and value of multi player only games is subjective. Me and my friends put hundreds of hours into bf3&4 online.

@hobbes242 you get the other person to download the demo/ friends pass version. We downloaded that version onto my PC so my eldest son could play with me. On the PS5 you click create (I think, I'm not home) and give the other player the number code.
We've been having a blast playing it, on level 5 at the mo. Yeah it doesn't really tell you what you have to do half the time but that's what makes it so much fun. You really need to communicate well with the other person and you may fall out when it gets really intense. But I think they've made a really fun challenging experience.
As its free on plus if give it a 9. Even paying for it I'd still give it an 8.

Looks great fun but far cry 5 burnt me out. Loved the world, exploring and some of the crazy missions but the constant cut scene encounters and bloody annoying villains did my head in. Will still probably get it though, when it's half price after a few months.

I don't think they will do one in June, I have a feeling they will let all the 3rd party developers show off all their games that are coming, with quite a few being PlayStation exclusives(Square Enix). And with R&C releasing around E3 time and hopefully with amazing reviews, that keeps Sony in the spotlight. Then have a big showcase in July when they'll know how big they need to go to combat whatever MS showed.

Really looking forward to seeing how the game looks and what they might have added to the gameplay. Loved the first one. I'm wondering if the PS5 version might have extra assets on screen like Kena having a 100 of those furry little creatures on screen compared to the 20 on ps4. I'm hoping it's not just better frame rate and resolution. Hyped anyway.

Was really looking forward to this game, didn't expect that score. Just watched Skill Ups review on YouTube who I find to be a good honest gamer, and he pretty well hated it. Just looks like they tried to add to much and by stretching themselves they forgot to get the basics right, especially the sound and combat.

@Loftimus I paid £64 for it and don't regret it for a second, and I don't normally like roguelike games. The price and value of something is always subjective, nobody forces people to buy these games. I've put 30 plus hours in, lost count of how many deaths I've had and I still want to do one more run. The game is a masterpiece of gameplay and immersion. I've not had one crash or bug. I remember buying kirby on switch for my boy, £50, he beat it in 5 hours, that definitely wasn't worth the money. I don't think Sony are going to change their pricing structure at all this gen, so people against it are going to have to wait for sales this whole generation. Me personally, R&C looks amazing and has taken years to develop so my £70 is already down.

I'm hoping Starfield is good, because it will give me something to play on my series x. I think that MS bought Bethesda because they knew the initial launch years for their new consoles was very weak. They bought a lot of new studios but knew it would be years before they started to pump out games. I reckon Starfield is a lot closer than people think. And I don't blame MS keeping it exclusive.
My problem with gamepass long term is the effect it has on gamers and their mindset. (And I say this as a subscriber). There is a reason 80% of RE Village sales were on ps4 and ps5, xbox players seem to look at gamepass and don't buy that many games. That's OK but for me personally, I don't get invested in the games then. If I'd have got Returnal on GP I would have played for an hour, thought bugger this and uninstalled it. But because I paid £64 for it I stuck at it. I'm now on the 3rd biome and bloody loving it. I die and just what to get straight back in and do another run.
Will GP in the long term turn into quantity over quality and games becoming disposal? The years ahead will be very interesting for gaming.

@MaikonCSGarcia Halo was turned into a shooter before MS bought bungie. Look it up on the net. I remember being a PC gamer back then and really looking forward to playing it. Was in some of the pc mags at the time. MS saw how good it looked and bought it to launch their system. I remember a lot of angry pc gamers at the time.

@trev666 I reckon if the technology is as good as everything is pointing to with the power of the PS5 behind it, and Sony release some brilliant games that push the genre forward, I bet they will sell 10 million easy.

This sounds like a massive improvement over the first gen if true. Me personally I'm glad they have gone with the one cable. I've read before that they are hoping to have a wider FOV than any headset on the market. Couple that with resolutions that high, eye tracking to increase the graphical area you are looking at and haptic in the headset. Then add the new controllers with haptics and adaptive triggers it should be a great immersive experience.
Wireless would either mean processors in the headset, which then why would you need their console? and the games would be limited compared to what Sony is probably aiming for. Or you go with streaming, but then you add weight with the batteries. And to reduce latency in very high demanding games you would probably need a very good WiFi 6 router which the average person wouldn't have. The whole point of VR for a console is accessibility and using all the power and tech like the SSD that's inside it. So that the average Joe just plugs one cable into his shiny PS5 and away he goes.

I just love this game. Even though it keeps kicking my arse and some runs seem so much harder than others I keep coming back for more. The combat is exhilarating, the world design and atmosphere is some of the best I've seen. The sound is amazing and it uses the dualsense brilliantly. I might never finish it but I gave it a 10 and think it was worth every penny. Oh and I must be lucky, because in over 20 hours I've not had one bug.

@Scratchy_Seal I'm in the same boat, game keeps kicking my arse but I love it. So atmospheric and plays so beautifully. Not sure if I'll ever see the end but never had so much fun dieing in a game.

As someone who has a single wired pc vr setup I'm pleased they are going that route. I'm hoping the PS5s power through that single cable will mean a very high resolution and a much better FOV. And with the haptics and adaptive triggers in the controllers I think psvr2 could be very immersive. Will be very interesting to see the sales figures by about 2025, I think Zuckerberg might have to eat his words.

Played it last night for the first time after the patch and it ran brilliantly. Such a beautiful immersive game. Got my arse kicked and still trying to figure out all the mechanics, but what housemarque have managed to do with this game is amazing. The game just bleeds quality, bigger developers could learn from these guys.

Arrived this morning, installed and patched ready for a gaming night. Not normally my sort of game but everything I've seen so far has looked quality so wanted to give it a try. Yeah the £70 (I got it for£64) price point is a hard pill to swallow, but I'm glad Sony are taking risks with games like these(contrary to what the Internet keeps telling us). And if I don't like it I can always sell it to certain online traders.

Personally as long as they don't put the price up I don't see the problem. Yeah I know most gamers out there might not be bothered but to your average mum and dad it looks like added value for the family. As for Sony's answer to gamepass, I'm sure that will come with time. But to me their best answer is to just keeping giving us great exclusive games, games you can't play anywhere else. Games that give your £450 box value.

This looks incredible, can't wait to play it. Sony may have their faults but they certainly deliver high quality games.

@Nem completely agree with your post about the launch line up. The series x and s could reach their year anniversaries with the only exclusives released being the medium and a dlc for gears 5. Its got to be the worst launch of a console ever. Can you imagine the stick Sony would get if it did that? But MS use smoke and mirrors with game pass and BC and the media/ you tubers fall over themselves with how amazing they are!

Even the switch first year had BOTW, splatoon 2, Mario rabbids, Mario odyssey and a few others. Sony is on course to deliver 10 exclusives, maybe 11 with HZD2 in its first year, but the "optics" seem to be all about gamepass!

Don't get me wrong, I think Sony have and are making mistakes and they need to turn that around. But I still feel MS are behind and also still have a lot to prove. 23 or 100 studios doesn't mean anything till we see quality games.

@S1ayeR74 we might not agree on much but I agree 100% on druckman. I'll never play one of his games again.