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@Fiendish-Beaver yeah mostly 100s and 100s of shovel wear, and I say this as someone who's subscribed to GP well into next year. The first 2 years of my series x have been a massive disappointment.
If the bland, boring and half finished halo is what we can expect from xbox and GP I'll take PS plus extra and £70 quality AAA games any day.
For me personally, when I get 40-50 hours out of a masterpiece like GOW ragnarok, I think £70 is a fair price.

A really solid month. Always wanted to try biomutant, but after the reviews I didn't pull the trigger. Definitely worth a download.

Well i managed to get the bundle, so also going to get the star wars game, saints and sinners 2 and hello neighbour for my son who's a huge fan of the franchise.
Fingers crossed for half life alyx. Pretty please valve.

@Toypop so you can see into the future, you couldn't give me next weeks lottery numbers then could you?
I'd guess I'm older than you, gaming has been an expensive hobby over the years, from my ZX Spectrum to my ps5 and series x. Some have been better than others, but that's the chance you take with technology.
I'm paying £500 for a next gen experience in VR. An experience I believe will deliver AAA quality games, great immersive games. I'm supporting a platform I want to see grow and change from a niche product. Me and my family have played some amazing vr games the last few years, and they are only going to get better.
But you do you. We will see who's right in the coming years.

@Toypop wow you can see into the future, that's very impressive! You have no idea how good the games are going to be, or how good the experience will be either. Just your assumptions. From the hands on videos I've watched, the people in the industry were very impressed. I've got an old WMR headset on my PC that gave me great experiences and it's not a patch on the psvr2.
The tech in this system compared to the market is very very good. The price is good value, how you think its a massive premium I really don't know.
And again if everyone thought like you and nobody bought it, support would dry up and it would be dead on arrival. The more it sells at launch the stronger the support will be going forward.
Oh and stadia didn't really rip anyone off, everyone was getting full refunds as far as I'm aware.

@TrickyDicky99 you really need a new narrative. The game is a massive success story despite it being a cross gen title, you must be so disappointed.

Went on at 11 when the email stated and order went straight through. Went with the Horizon bundle, now to wait 🫤.
Least they don't take the money until Feb.

@Toypop if everyone thought like you, everything would be dead on arrival.
Enjoy your quest 2, me I'm looking forward to an experience that blows that out of the water. The price for the tech compared to the valve index is a steal. And how's it a waste of money if people get enjoyment out of it? In a world where people buy the latest I phone every year even though it does the same thing, to me buying a great new piece of tech that pushes the format forward makes much more sense.

I'm just over 10 hours into GOW ragnarok and the game is just immense. Obviously still got a long way to go, but no game I've played this year has given me a better experience. So probably my goty.
Pleased to see stray there, was such a lovely experience and very relaxing. Also i loved my 60 hours in HFW, maybe not the best game ever but certainly better than most released this year.

Definitely going to try this when I get my hands on the hardware.
I've just got my email to pre order too, happy days. I'm presuming they will take full payment at the time of the order? Strange it doesn't tell you in the email.

@LifeGirl you do realise the semiconductor shortage effected every industry across the globe, from cars (Ford had cars sitting on production lines), phones,laptops to consoles. Sony can only make what they can get the parts for.
Obviously Sony should have their own semiconductor foundry! 😉

@Tharsman you could also argue that its not a good yard stick to measure it by! An extremely highly rated game that was a juggernaut, that came at a time when xbox had nothing of note coming out and PS had several big games.
I doubt we'll ever know the true split, but I'm sure it would be interesting reading.

@Tharsman one games sales does not make a compelling argument.
It would be very interesting to see the breakdown on this games first week in sales. Especially since Sony have said its the biggest launch of any COD game on their store.

@Tharsman according to Sony's last figures, 79% of their games sales were digital. So you could say PS gamers trend towards digital too.

@CapGod we shall see eh, as we're still waiting for announcements. And as Sony have stated many times that they have 25 games in development, my money is on you being wrong and they'll drop several games next year.
But hey we'll see who's wrong this time next year.

@CapGod I'm sure it can't be as bad as xbox's 2022 who's 1st party output has been a joke this year. (And i say this as an xbox series x owner as well as a ps5).
Personally I think 2023 is going to be a great year on all systems.

Really good selection of games, plenty I will download and try out. For £83 a year, extra is brilliant value.
I think for anybody just getting a PS5, pay for ps extra and you wouldn't need to buy any games for months.

Excellent news, hope it really happens. If they release with this, Horizon, RE Village and a patch for gt7 then it will be a great launch line up.
And i know some people won't be happy but I hope they make it PC compatible straight out of the box. Yes it will make getting one harder, but VR is still a niche product. The more they sell, the more developers will want to make games for the platform, and we'll be the winners.

I don't think they'll having a problem selling all 2 million. VR is in a much better place than when the first one launched and if they bring the games I reckon it's going to be a massive success. Especially with all the new tech and features the psvr2 has.
Thank god that Sony and Nintendo keep trying to innovate and move gaming in different directions.

@Dr_Luigi I think they are trying to find a place between the Quest 2 and high end pcvr like the valve index. And since the index kit is £900, plus needing a pc of similar value to get the 90hz/120hz you need for a good experience I think they might pull it off.
Considering some of the features on the psvr2 are the same or better(never been done before), if they can sell this at £400 I think it has every chance of success. Games permitting of course.

@Thehandsomedan And again there are hundreds of pcvr games that use inside out tracking and the same type of controllers. Porting these over will not cost much in expense or time, especially for a platform that's going to sell in the millions.

@Thehandsomedan But it's not the manufacturer saying this, it's developers and publishers that's being reported by many outlets. So again not naivety and NOT hyperbole! It's games confirmed coming to the platform.
Your obviously a glass half empty type of person, you do your negativity and ill do my optimism and we'll see who's right.
Personally I think they delayed the release to next year so it will have a strong launch lineup and a great first year.

@Thehandsomedan no its the number of confirmed games coming, nothing hyperbole about it. Plus Sony have yet to show what they have coming.
And let's not forgot, porting pcvr games will be loads easier because they've been using inside out tracking and similar controllers for years. Lots more sales for their developers.
And the developers of the psvr games are going to want to update their old games so they can sell them on the new platform for more sales.
Me personally, I'm glad it's not backwards compatible, don't want it being held back by old tech.

@Thehandsomedan there are apparently 50 games confirmed for psvr2 already with even more rumoured.
I don't think the platform will have any problems on the games front. Plus with developers working on updates for psvr games I think the problem will be which games to buy.

Can't wait to play this, looks great. More than happy with 7 hours, ideal length for a vr title. Just hoping I get psvr2 day one 🙏.

It's great news that more and more people will be able to get their hands on a ps5.
As for the price increase, my family food bill is £10 - £15 more A WEEK! so I honestly don't think a £30 price rise on a console that will last you 5 plus years in the current climate is that bad. And nobodies forced to buy one.

Sounds like they've put a lot of effort into this, and maybe if you'd never played it before it would be a good pick up. But for me (as others have said) it's just too expensive.
Half the price and I would have picked it up day one. Sony baffles me sometimes.

@MattBoothDev the xbox elite controller is £150 and this has more features. I reckon it will be priced the same.

I reckon it's going to be £150. The case, 3 different thumb sticks, braided cable, interchangeable sticks, back buttons, programmable and trigger locks. That's a lot over the standard one.

And I think still keeping the adaptive triggers and having trigger locks is a win over all the 3rd party controllers out there. With them you either have the adaptive triggers or they put in trigger lock only ones. So to get the benefit of those triggers in most games but then to be able to put the lock on for fps online games will be great.
Hope it comes out this year.

@thefourfoldroot1 you know they can carry on updating this game and work on a new one.
Plus I'd argue that all the stuff you just said you'd done is the full game. How many hours did all that take you? I've got 140 hours in the game so got my monies worth.
Everything they keep adding is a bonus to me. If they keep adding more menus and tracks for the next few years like they have been doing it just keeps adding to the value.

Another good update. Really enjoy the new menus and working through them.
Just let us sell duplicate cars please.

@brubeck it's a luxury item, as is gaming really. Nobody's forced to buy them.
Personally, for the spec and tech in those drives vs other memory (micro sd cards) they're a bargain.

@DukeeDukems been playing on pc with a 1 cable VR setup for years. Myself, kids and even my non gaming wife(couldn't pry her off Arizona Sunshine) with absolutely no problems.
I'm glad they are going with the 1 cable so we get next gen full AAA games in VR powered by the ps5. Until they can provide seamless no latency wireless that works 100% of the time for every single consumer, its the best choice.

Day one for me. The price is going to be interesting.
As for those saying it should have released sooner, no point in putting it out in the market until the games are ready.
5-10 great games on launch day will make a massive difference.

I loved Days gone, great story, brilliant world and taking on a horde was one of the best,tense and most challenging bits of gaming I've played in years.
Though review scores were low I think it's a lot more liked than people think. Some sources say it sold 8-9 million so a movie might do quite well. Hopefully they do it justice.

@Ichiban I'd argue the story and writing in Ghost is better than half the crap Hollywood pumps out these days. I loved the story and characters and look forward to seeing it in the cinema. Just hope they get the cast right

Sounds like it has the chance to be a great movie. So pleased he wants to make it using native language and actors, will make the story that much more impactful.
I wonder if they will try and have it release around the same time as the sequel drops.

@IonMagi and how much was your gaming laptop with a gtx 2080 in? The gtx 2080 only released in 2018 and they were a lot more expensive than a ps5, and that's just for the card.
Digital foundry have done a few tests rating against different cards on roughly the same settings. They generally say it's equivalent mostly to a 2070, but sometimes a 2080. They were very expensive bits of kit. Much better than a laptop 3060.

Looks like two of the best games on PC this year will come from Sony! I personally think it's great they get to play both these masterpieces! And of course they get the best version, if you'd spent £2k on a rig you'd want it to be better than a mass market home console.
After years of spending thousands on PC'S keeping them upto date, I love the performance I get from my PS5 on my big 4k TV.

@DeepSpace5D tlou 2 sold only slightly more, but it was a massively hyped sequel to a beloved game. Millions bought tlou 2 on the back of their love for the first one. If it didn't sell more than a new ip it would have been a big failure for Sony.
Also tlou 2 was massively discounted early in its life cycle, much faster than it should have been (and ghost). If anything I'd say tlou 2 under performed. I reckon the "controversial " storyline cost them a good 5-10 million in sales.

Can't wait to try those controllers out! Just give us a date Sony, I need to place my order!

@Ryany Sony doesn't need an answer to GP, just needs to be value for money. £99 a year for 700+ games, some brand new 3rd party games plus top tier ps4 and ps5 games. Seems good to me. I have 8 games downloading as we speak.

Oh and I have GP on my series x, had it for years. Playing sniper elite 5 at the moment. GP has been very lack lustre this past year, and looking at the quality of the games available right now, Ps plus premium walks all over GP for me personally. Day one 1st party games mean nothing when they don't have any to drop. Still waiting for my SX to show its worth.

£40 for me to upgrade to premium! Got a £40 gift card for just over £35. Bargain.
Already downloading 8 games, for me personally I think it's amazing value for money. And I say this as a gamepass subscriber.
Looking forward to seeing what they add now over the months, starting with the excellent looking Stray.

Really excited to see what games are coming to psvr2, I hope they show what's possible with all the new tech and the power of the ps5.
As for the rest, hopefully some decent games from 3rd party developers and a GOW SOP at the end of June.

@Dr-M well sniper elite v2 remastered is a good entry point and was on offer(not sure if it still is) the other day. But like most series, they have gotten better over time so sniper elite 4 is the best one to play before trying 5. You can get it cheap on ebay.

Sounds great, can't wait to play it tomorrow. Have loved every entry so far, more of the same but with new sand box maps is all I need.

Personally think Extra is amazing value for money, especially if you were new to PlayStation.
I could never justify buying Demon Souls, as not sure it wouldn't drive me crazy, but will definitely try it on the service. Same with AC Valhalla and death stranding.
If Sony keep the content drops of a decent quality every month I think they could be onto a winner.

Apparently they didn't reveal the release date for GOW 2018 until January 23rd 2018, and then it released on April 20th. So still plenty of time for it to come this year.
I really believe it will!

I'm happy that sony are taking this approach, their games for the most part are worth the money! I don't want to see the level of quality drop!
And as someone who's also a gamepass subscriber, I'd say most of the games added in the last year have just been filler. Yes their 1st party have been getting better reviews, but I think that's more to do with a certain media bias that seems to be happening at the moment. In my opinion halo infinite was adequate at best(with the most bland open world I've seen in years), FS is a technical marvel but not much of a game(plus a massive money sink if you want the expensive other planes). And for some reason, after putting in over a 100 hours into FH4 I just didn't enjoy FH5. Might be me as a gamer, but the game just felt super flashy but ultimately flat! MS have still got to prove they can release new high quality IP's, that my series X was worth the investment.

Dualsense would get my vote too, what it adds to games just can't be matched with any other controller. First time I played wrc9 I loved that not only can you feel the gravel hitting the car, you hear it through the speaker. And the trigger/throttle changing as the engine gets damaged means you feel what's happening with the car without having to look.
I have an xbox elite series 2 controller and yes it's great at what it does, and the rear paddles work well. But having played the same games on both systems, the ps5 is my multiplat of choice every time if the dualsense is used. Which to be fair, so far has been a lot.
Plus I cheated and had the 4 paddle system put on the back of my one controller. And also ordered an Aim controller with their 4 paddle system which gives you the elite benefits but with the haptics/adaptive triggers and speaker added on.