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@The_New_Butler I think @Jaz007 is right, it's way too early to know if/ when the extra speed will be an advantage. Its well too early in the life cycle to know. But I did read an article with an unreal 5 engine dev the other day that said the higher I/O bandwidth not only helps with loading and streaming assets, but also streaming in textures.
As the unreal 5 engine will probably be one of the most used, it can only help Sony's side. Will that make any real world differences that the average gamer will notice? 🤷. But I do know that it gives Sony's 1st party devs a great platform to make amazing and detailed worlds.

Just managed to preorder the 1tb from overclockers for £198 delivered. Looks pretty straight forward to me installing them, plus can hoover the dust ports whilst I'm at it.

Update, I've just been reading that seagate say the version with the heatsink fits fine, so just paid an extra tenner for that version.

As others have said, Sony haven't done that great in Japan for years. This whole narrative that it's just happening now is stupid.
R&C 2016 27k sales on a 4 million ps4 install base.
New R&C 14k on a 684k (disc version) ps5 install base.
If anything that's better, and probably more have bought it digitally.

Sony will do fine in Japan, probably the same as the ps4. Japan is the land of the handheld(the 2016 chart was nearly all 3ds). They just prioritise the west now, and from the sales data, I don't blame them.

@vict0RGM I prefer Sony's approach. You only have to look at the viewing figures for the horizon forbidden West state of play to see how popular they are. I think Sony will have some type of longer show in the next month when all the focus will be on them. And dropping state of plays keeps the interest going in the platform.

@Loftimus fair one, I'll be playing all the best games to, I just don't have your patience and I don't think £70 for a high quality game is that much these days. Will be interesting to see the effect gamepass and Microsofts very deep pockets has on the gaming landscape long term. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think it's going to be for the better.

@Loftimus you obviously think gamepass is great value and since you continually go on about the £70 price point I don't think your going to enjoy PlayStation much this generation. The £70 price point is here to stay, 3rd party games like battlefield 2042 are £70 on both platforms. Looks like most big titles will be this generation and I really don't see Sony changing either.
As everyone has said, the value of gamepass is subjective to each individual player. I have about 40 games from GP installed on my series x but I've only finished one (desperados 3). Maybe it's my mindset but I find it hard to get invested in the games, they just feel more disposable. Whereas I paid £62 for returnal and after the first hour I was thinking it wasn't for me. But I preservered because I had invested into it and I'm glad I did. 30 hours later and I'm still loving it I think it was worth every penny.
Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to forza h5 and will play it day one, and there are some other great games coming but I think there is value in Sony releasing amazing games that you can't play anywhere else even at £70. MS have still got to show they can make games of the same quality to really trouble Sony. I believe there is room for both models.
And concerning R&C, it has 5 difficulty settings, the top one is apparently brutal at times so there is challenge there. Oh and its bloody beautiful and plays great.

Started R&C today and I'm really really impressed. Got to be one of the best looking games I've ever seen. And it's just so much fun to play. And after returnal continually kicking my butt(just one more run) it's just what I needed!

@Juanalf if you want to play them on the release date you buy a PlayStation. Want to wait 2-3 years and pay full price whilst they have probably been put on psplus, buy a PC.

Bit gutted no campaign but if the multi player is back to bf3 and bf4 with those only in battlefield moments I'll probably get it. Always think the price and value of multi player only games is subjective. Me and my friends put hundreds of hours into bf3&4 online.

@hobbes242 you get the other person to download the demo/ friends pass version. We downloaded that version onto my PC so my eldest son could play with me. On the PS5 you click create (I think, I'm not home) and give the other player the number code.
We've been having a blast playing it, on level 5 at the mo. Yeah it doesn't really tell you what you have to do half the time but that's what makes it so much fun. You really need to communicate well with the other person and you may fall out when it gets really intense. But I think they've made a really fun challenging experience.
As its free on plus if give it a 9. Even paying for it I'd still give it an 8.

Looks great fun but far cry 5 burnt me out. Loved the world, exploring and some of the crazy missions but the constant cut scene encounters and bloody annoying villains did my head in. Will still probably get it though, when it's half price after a few months.

I don't think they will do one in June, I have a feeling they will let all the 3rd party developers show off all their games that are coming, with quite a few being PlayStation exclusives(Square Enix). And with R&C releasing around E3 time and hopefully with amazing reviews, that keeps Sony in the spotlight. Then have a big showcase in July when they'll know how big they need to go to combat whatever MS showed.

Really looking forward to seeing how the game looks and what they might have added to the gameplay. Loved the first one. I'm wondering if the PS5 version might have extra assets on screen like Kena having a 100 of those furry little creatures on screen compared to the 20 on ps4. I'm hoping it's not just better frame rate and resolution. Hyped anyway.

Was really looking forward to this game, didn't expect that score. Just watched Skill Ups review on YouTube who I find to be a good honest gamer, and he pretty well hated it. Just looks like they tried to add to much and by stretching themselves they forgot to get the basics right, especially the sound and combat.

@Loftimus I paid £64 for it and don't regret it for a second, and I don't normally like roguelike games. The price and value of something is always subjective, nobody forces people to buy these games. I've put 30 plus hours in, lost count of how many deaths I've had and I still want to do one more run. The game is a masterpiece of gameplay and immersion. I've not had one crash or bug. I remember buying kirby on switch for my boy, £50, he beat it in 5 hours, that definitely wasn't worth the money. I don't think Sony are going to change their pricing structure at all this gen, so people against it are going to have to wait for sales this whole generation. Me personally, R&C looks amazing and has taken years to develop so my £70 is already down.

I'm hoping Starfield is good, because it will give me something to play on my series x. I think that MS bought Bethesda because they knew the initial launch years for their new consoles was very weak. They bought a lot of new studios but knew it would be years before they started to pump out games. I reckon Starfield is a lot closer than people think. And I don't blame MS keeping it exclusive.
My problem with gamepass long term is the effect it has on gamers and their mindset. (And I say this as a subscriber). There is a reason 80% of RE Village sales were on ps4 and ps5, xbox players seem to look at gamepass and don't buy that many games. That's OK but for me personally, I don't get invested in the games then. If I'd have got Returnal on GP I would have played for an hour, thought bugger this and uninstalled it. But because I paid £64 for it I stuck at it. I'm now on the 3rd biome and bloody loving it. I die and just what to get straight back in and do another run.
Will GP in the long term turn into quantity over quality and games becoming disposal? The years ahead will be very interesting for gaming.

@MaikonCSGarcia Halo was turned into a shooter before MS bought bungie. Look it up on the net. I remember being a PC gamer back then and really looking forward to playing it. Was in some of the pc mags at the time. MS saw how good it looked and bought it to launch their system. I remember a lot of angry pc gamers at the time.

@trev666 I reckon if the technology is as good as everything is pointing to with the power of the PS5 behind it, and Sony release some brilliant games that push the genre forward, I bet they will sell 10 million easy.

This sounds like a massive improvement over the first gen if true. Me personally I'm glad they have gone with the one cable. I've read before that they are hoping to have a wider FOV than any headset on the market. Couple that with resolutions that high, eye tracking to increase the graphical area you are looking at and haptic in the headset. Then add the new controllers with haptics and adaptive triggers it should be a great immersive experience.
Wireless would either mean processors in the headset, which then why would you need their console? and the games would be limited compared to what Sony is probably aiming for. Or you go with streaming, but then you add weight with the batteries. And to reduce latency in very high demanding games you would probably need a very good WiFi 6 router which the average person wouldn't have. The whole point of VR for a console is accessibility and using all the power and tech like the SSD that's inside it. So that the average Joe just plugs one cable into his shiny PS5 and away he goes.

I just love this game. Even though it keeps kicking my arse and some runs seem so much harder than others I keep coming back for more. The combat is exhilarating, the world design and atmosphere is some of the best I've seen. The sound is amazing and it uses the dualsense brilliantly. I might never finish it but I gave it a 10 and think it was worth every penny. Oh and I must be lucky, because in over 20 hours I've not had one bug.

@Scratchy_Seal I'm in the same boat, game keeps kicking my arse but I love it. So atmospheric and plays so beautifully. Not sure if I'll ever see the end but never had so much fun dieing in a game.

As someone who has a single wired pc vr setup I'm pleased they are going that route. I'm hoping the PS5s power through that single cable will mean a very high resolution and a much better FOV. And with the haptics and adaptive triggers in the controllers I think psvr2 could be very immersive. Will be very interesting to see the sales figures by about 2025, I think Zuckerberg might have to eat his words.

Played it last night for the first time after the patch and it ran brilliantly. Such a beautiful immersive game. Got my arse kicked and still trying to figure out all the mechanics, but what housemarque have managed to do with this game is amazing. The game just bleeds quality, bigger developers could learn from these guys.

Arrived this morning, installed and patched ready for a gaming night. Not normally my sort of game but everything I've seen so far has looked quality so wanted to give it a try. Yeah the £70 (I got it for£64) price point is a hard pill to swallow, but I'm glad Sony are taking risks with games like these(contrary to what the Internet keeps telling us). And if I don't like it I can always sell it to certain online traders.

Personally as long as they don't put the price up I don't see the problem. Yeah I know most gamers out there might not be bothered but to your average mum and dad it looks like added value for the family. As for Sony's answer to gamepass, I'm sure that will come with time. But to me their best answer is to just keeping giving us great exclusive games, games you can't play anywhere else. Games that give your £450 box value.

This looks incredible, can't wait to play it. Sony may have their faults but they certainly deliver high quality games.

@Nem completely agree with your post about the launch line up. The series x and s could reach their year anniversaries with the only exclusives released being the medium and a dlc for gears 5. Its got to be the worst launch of a console ever. Can you imagine the stick Sony would get if it did that? But MS use smoke and mirrors with game pass and BC and the media/ you tubers fall over themselves with how amazing they are!

Even the switch first year had BOTW, splatoon 2, Mario rabbids, Mario odyssey and a few others. Sony is on course to deliver 10 exclusives, maybe 11 with HZD2 in its first year, but the "optics" seem to be all about gamepass!

Don't get me wrong, I think Sony have and are making mistakes and they need to turn that around. But I still feel MS are behind and also still have a lot to prove. 23 or 100 studios doesn't mean anything till we see quality games.

@S1ayeR74 we might not agree on much but I agree 100% on druckman. I'll never play one of his games again.

@S1ayeR74 I don't really care if you believe me or not. I got my preorder in with argos last September looking forward to seeing what the new machine could do, looking forward to what exclusives I would be playing in 2021. What do I get? The medium? Didn't even bother downloading. Maybe I'm missing out, was too busy playing all the games ps plus kept giving me and all the 3rd party games I was buying on ps5.
I'll admit that getting outriders day one was a brilliant move by MS. But do you really think they would have paid all that money to do that if they had exclusives of there own launching? Personally I think it was a great distraction from the fact they have no new games to launch. Which is also why they big up backwards compatibility so much, because they don't have anything else.

Maybe I should have been more clear on the 1st party line. What I should have said was exclusives. Reasons to own the console. Sony's first year line up - Demon Souls, bugsnax, astro, spiderman MM, Sackboy, Destruction Allstars, Returnal, R&C, deathloop, kena and hopefully HZD2. Yeah they are of vary quality and some played on ps4 but at least there is choice.
I'm sure one day MS will start launching lots of new exclusive games onto gamepass and the value will be great. But for me it's not there at the moment.

@TrolleyProblems I'm very pleased for you and your enjoyment of the series x. I'll agree its a very powerful system. Whilst quick resume is good(when it works probably) I don't really use it as I just play one game at a time.
The only real advantage it has over the ps5 is the value of gamepass. Its still massively lacking in its 1st party gaming, has no reason to justify the upgrade from a one x(which I did).
I dislike the new series x controller so much (d pad is so clicky) that when I do play I use my old xbox one controllers. Whereas the dualsense is a massive improvement over the dualshock. When you play something like WR9 and you can feel the ABS kick in on the left trigger, that your engine is damaged just by the changes in the right trigger. Loose gravel hitting the bottom of the car can be felt by the haptic, and heard through the speaker. These things add so much to the game. And that's not the only game to use it really well. Then I go back to Forza H4 (my favourite driving game) and it feels just flat compared.
Anyway I just enjoy playing good games, and I look forward to when xbox starts delivering on all its promises. But it still has a lot to prove.

@S1ayeR74 I have a series x sat next to my ps5. And I have been subscribed to gamepass ultimate for over a year and a half. I know exactly what it offers. Fact remains that xbox has had a terrible 1st party launch lineup, and this looks set to continue upto the end of the year until halo releases. Unless they surprise us. Whereas Sony's first year is very healthy.
Gamepass is great value, especially if you like playing loads of old games with better fps. And I'm sure in the future when they start dropping games from all their studios it will get even better.
But for now my series x just feels like a slightly more powerful one x with a boring controller and no innovation.

@Shygamer your not winding any one up mate. You just make yourself look very very sad. These are billion dollar companies that don't care about any of us. You shilling for one over the other is really rather funny.
But hey if it makes your warm inside and your mums basement look a bit brighter, you do you.

@Shygamer I must be mate, I bought a series x day one! I have no loyalty to any piece of plastic that's sat under my TV. I just like playing great games. Will be nice when xbox start making them again!

@Shygamer you know what's anti consumer? Releasing a £450 next gen console with no new 1st party exclusive games to play on it! Having such a bare first year you have to pay loads of money to get 3rd party games day one just to give your players something to play!
Yes gamepass is great value, but not for next gen gaming it isn't!
I'll take Sony's new £70 games over playing the same old games with faster fps any day.
And I'm sure Sony will do just fine without your money.

@blinx01 maybe I was being silly, but when I preordered my series x last September I really thought they would have games launching this year that would take advantage of it. We could amazingly get to the point of it's year anniversary in November with the only real big release being the medium! Can you imagine the flack Sony would get for that. But MS are getting away with it because of gamepass and BC.
In comparison, Sony's first year line up could be the best it's ever had by November but it's being dwarfed by constant bad press (some of its own making).
I reckon your right, from 2022 MS have the potential to deliver a constant stream of games. Hopefully of great quality too.
I hear what your saying about the £70. It Did surprise me that were now paying $97 for new games here in the UK. I managed to preorder returnal for £64 and I'm hoping it's worth it.

@blinx01 I can send you a picture and the receipt if you like. Not that I'm bothered if you don't believe me. I bought both next gen machines hoping for great exclusives this year. To play the next great games on the best machines at launch. Hoping that MS we're going to blow me away with a showcase and release schedule. But what did I get? Oh it plays all your old games better, and hey we've bought Bethesda so have all their old games too. I love Forza Horizon 4, was hoping for something on the next one. Hoping for any new games from them really!
Meanwhile I have Returnal, deathloop, R&C, kena and hopefully HZD2 to look forward too.
Only game I've played on my series x this year is Desperados 3 (great game).

I think Sony really needs to work on its PR and getting the message right for this gen and less time worrying what gamepass is doing.
Amazes me all the great press and even utubers falling over themselves about how brilliant MS and gamepass is and how backwards compatibility is so awesome. It completely deflects from the one issue MS has at the moment. No 1st games.
Sony has some great exclusive games coming in the next few months whilst xbox has none. But that seems to not matter to a lot of the press.

@Dezzy70 strange how the PS5 was the biggest selling console in the UK in February then? That its the fastest selling console in history? Amazon uk were rumoured to have had 45k the other week. They are making and selling more than both models of xbox.
What are you on about with the quality of life and manufacturing? Did you not see the tear down? Its all on one board? And yes I've had a few crashes on it and resets, but I've had that on my series x too. You get that with first gen machines.

@Shygamer I also bought a series x but its gathering dust whilst I wait for the 1st party games to launch! All it is at the moment is a backwards compatibility machine. Which I have no interest in. Wish I'd have stayed with my one x. Where as my PS5 is used everyday. I buy all the 3rd party games on it because of the dual sense. The series x controller feels like a cheap toy and lifeless after adaptive triggers and haptics.
Sony have a list of exclusives launching this year and what do MS have? A generic boring looking Halo that looks like it hasnt progressed in years.
Oh and your HD comparison doesn't really hold water now that developers are starting to use kraken. Control UE is 40% smaller on PS5. More and more developers will start using it.
And please don't start with the t flops crap. That's just a number to please small children. These machines are a lot more than that.

Yeah that voice over was awful, but those were some seriously good looking visuals. Looking forward to seeing some actual decent gameplay footage.

@Athrum returnal has no dlc or micro transactions that we know of, or R&C so it is a valid point. And returnals sales may not be in the many millions.
Yes I know that some of these companies are making big profits but the fact remains the big AAA games cost more to makeand take longer.
Everything else in life has gone up during the years but games have mostly stayed the same price for over 15 years. They were going to go up eventually.

I think the game looks great, managed to preorder it for £64. Am I happy about that, no(especially as that's 90 odd dollars). But I understand that these games today cost a lot more to make than they used to.
The average game when the ps3 launched in 2006 cost $60. Everyone has just got used to paying that, but it had to go up sometime. And with inflation that $60 cost to you back then would be more than 70.

Rd2 cost $370m to $540m with marketing costs. Rd1 cost $80-$100m.
The average game now apparently costs between $60-$100 million just to make.
The studios are bigger than ever, more staff making these games (minimum wage in 2000 £3.60, 2020 £8.91. And I'm sure these developers are on a lot more than that and scale accordingly.

The games are bigger, more detailed and take a lot more programming than ever before. (I'm not saying they're better though). That costs money.

But on the other side of the coin, they have to make sure that the quality is there, that your going to be getting value for money. That charging the extra for returnal is worth the money! We'll it be? Who knows till it comes out! I hope so. I think all these developers/studios are watching what happens with these $70 games. Will be interesting to see the sales for the game.

@BrainHacker will be interesting to see what happens. We'll know in just over a month what the state of play is with deathloop.

@SegataSanshiro I was sceptical too before I played games like WR9, FIFA, COD, sackboy and Astro. Its one of the reasons I'm excited for psvr2. Like you say, we all like different things.

@BrainHacker I'm not sure if they can, depends on the contract Sony signed. I'm pretty sure if they could launch deathloop on gamepass PC and x cloud they would be announcing it from the roof tops to add to Sony's PR nightmare they're having at the moment.

@SegataSanshiro I hear what your saying, and I agree it's good that we all like different things. Dualsense is now my favourite controller of all time and the immersion it adds to games is why I buy all the 3rd party games that use it on my PS5. I'm probably just regretting getting the series x and wish I had stayed with my one x for now as it just doesn't add much when your actually playing the games. Whereas the ps5 does.
But I'm sure in the coming years if they get the quality vs quantity right that will change and Sony will have some very stiff competition. Which at the end of the day we all want because we should all benefit.

@SegataSanshiro though I do agree with you that gamepass is a good deal, I wouldn't go as far as saying it's an amazing deal. It could be in the future if/when they release brilliant 1st party games from all their studios(and don't raise the price too high) but at the moment for me it's a bit flat. I'm lucky enough to have a series x sat next to a PS5, but it only really gets turned on when my kids want to play minecraft or TABS. I did enjoy desperados 3 on the service but most of the others I've either played or have no interest in(outriders demo was crap). I have no interest in 360 games, I bought next gen consoles to play next gen games. And I think a lot of the big gamepass PR talk lately is to distract from the fact they have no 1st party games launching anytime soon. They wouldn't have paid for outriders if they did. It's funny that MS is making all these headlines when Sony have 3 big next gen console exclusives launching in the next 3 months. Sony's PR team need firing.
But I do agree that gamepass is better than psnow at the moment, but PSPlus has kept me entertained for the last 3 months. And on a side note, for me personally playing on the series x controller(MS's biggest mistake) after using the dualsense just feels lifeless.

@everynowandben well I hope you are right. Time will tell eh, if MS keeps to the same number of studios it has now and just tries to deliver great games on its service then it will be great competition for Sony and Nintendo. But if in the next few years they start buying up even more studios and developers and take their games away from the other two then it becomes a problem.

@Oscarjpc strange, my 2 controllers that have hundreds of hours of usage are still working perfectly well 4 months later. There are probably 10 to 20 million dualsenses in the wild, it's expected that several thousand would have problems. Nobody apart from Sony know the true numbers.

@Ken_Kaniff I agree that MS are trying to take over the market, and they have the deep pockets to do it. It concerns me what the gaming space we obviously all love will look like in the years to come if they do. But on the exclusives front, MS have still yet to deliver great 1st party games of the quality that Sony does. They have bought all these studios but they to show that they can deliver. It will be very interesting to see the quantity vs quality that gamepass will have to juggle in the years ahead.
Yes I agree that Sony do need to make some moves that show they are listening. But id rather have Sony's studios than microsofts.