Right, the industry is becoming predatory and hostile to consumers and trying to take options for pure spreadsheet greed and the concern you have is the waste of plastic? This feels incredibly performative.

Games constantly removing stuff like this gets tiring after a while. I honestly miss when what’s done was done. Other games have used historical footage. Did we need to wait 3 years? 10? 15? When does it become okay.

This sounds like a good way to drive up the price and make it less powerful at the same time. I don’t want a switch as my PlayStation. No lessons learned from the Series S. Unfortunate. Everytime info about the PS6 comes out, it gets less appealing. I used to take it for granted I got was getting a PS6 day one, now maybe not at all.

Does it come with the cut content that’s restored on PC? I recently played through the game on PC and it’s one of the best RPGs ever made. Definitely runs into some issues at the end due to troubled development, but that’s about it.
If it doesn’t fix enough like the fan patches did it won’t be good enough. Lots of potential here.

@XenonKnight Two bad ideas of copying the Switch doesn’t make it a good thing.

PS6 sounds like a disaster. Super expensive, no disc, not doing great with exclusives lately, and handheld version that will hamstring games and make life more difficult like the Series S has proven to be a bad decision with it’s lesser power.
Sony wants to offer less and restrict the power increase while doubling prices. I’d pay 1K for a PS6 at launch if they wanted to offer more, but instead they want to be greedy and offer less than ever while asking for more than ever. They’re going to destroy themselves. I hope the leadership gets their careers destroyed.

Sony’s gonna look back and regret the past few years of leadership so much. The people up top are running the brand into the ground. Shawn Layden is right, they’re gonna get rid of their most important customer base.
Frankly, I hope the careers of the top brass get ruined after Sony eventually runs them out.

Four was such a disappointing end to the series, easily the worst of the games. A new game that is like 3 but crazier would be amazing.

@BonezKnowz I’m half serious. I do think that the ability to change the product you already bought can be too excessive. If someone doesn’t want something like this and wants to keep playing what they already bought, I do think trying to put some reasonable consumer protections in place would be a good thing

Are we seriously chastising them more about making a box than Sony for being anti-consumer? What even happened here.

Wait, this is forced? You can’t play the game as was? That shouldn’t even be legal. This should not be mandatory, wild that they did a free upgrade the explicitly wrong way.

I did a week, but I want to use what I bought and the discs I’m still buying. I may not get a PS6, and only a dumb decision could make me not do that. It was almost guaranteed. An expensive PS6 plus bad PR will not go over well. Sony is in a weak position and they think they’re on top of the world.

@AdamNovice The reception of Wolverine hasn’t been that great. A great game will have more appeal than Wolverine most likely. An MGS successor is also likely to have a lot more wide appeal than DS did. I frankly doubt Wolverine will break even alongside being bad for Sony and Insomniac’s reputation. And brand strength is important, especially when Sony is losing so much of it.

@SJR I think Sony is running it….

The review doesn’t read like the game really actually excels anywhere, it’s just good in some areas. A bad sign when you have to bust out the score descriptions because it doesn’t come out in the actual review’s writing.

@Alpha_Pulse Like keeping physical games around and making sure people can’t lose digital purchases?

@themightyant @get2sammyb Even with the EU law, it’s still Sony being bad at communication. It’s insane that you can lose your games like that, and Sony should be doing more to prevent it. TBH, if they really can’t, and maybe fair enough they can’t, they should just put the EU on blast for it. This l actually might be a reasonable case for Sony to play victim (not in a bad sense) alongside its customers.

This felt like a very intentional design choice I think got GTA4 and RDR2 very well. I don’t think this is good news. Having sprint/run not be L3 needs to happen far more often. Many old games are better for it. It’s good for COD, sure, but one size does not fit all.

@Ainu20 Some people prefer wielding power because they want to shape the world. You never know. If they’re confident enough that they will win the game of chicken, they also might not feel threatened by going for it.

Sony had been making tons of mistakes and aren’t in a position of strength with component prices. Xbox could easily be wanting to take an easy W after all their struggles.
A publisher could also totally be doing this. Not every company is run by soulless spreadsheets.
I don’t know why this site, which should be run by enthusiasts, constantly shills for their hobby getting worse. The complete lack of being personally unhappy from your end with this frankly makes no sense whatsoever.

Can we get another rereview?

I’m doing the week. I think Sony needs to realize raising prices and alienating a good part of the core audience is a very bad idea. They don’t have the leverage to be doing this. They’re made constant bad spreadsheet decisions that lost money in reality even through “from a business perspective” it “made sense”.
I do want to use what I paid for though, and my discs, so I will be turning it on again after the week. It might be more than I thought, the survey here had more people doing it than I expected.

PS6 will go over poorly. PS5 will take forever to stop getting games, probably longer than the PS4, killing physical, first party so mishandled, and raising prices. Sony isn’t in a spot to tick people off and they do it anyway.

@ShadowRJ He’s seeking a big single player game here, why would you need to register online for it anyway?

@get2sammyb I think doom and gloom is the last accusation anyone is having right now. We could use more form you guys I think lol.

@themcnoisy I’ve bought a number of digital games too, so I have contributed somewhat, but I also buy a good number of physical too. To be honest, I don’t like to assume companies pay people off normally, but it feels like Sony is paying a lot of outlets off to try and demoralize people (another decision that can have secondary effects). So many twisted statistics on the sales. It feels very unnatural that life long enthusiasts who run these websites are just going to “hard truth, inevitable” instead of trying to push back.
I’m really not convinced Xbox announcing they’ll keep physical won’t change Sony’s mind.

@add286 Yet we have blu-rays and CDs easily available to buy that make money because there’s a market for them that’s catered to.

@Hylian-Likely Bingo. The article is twisting numbers. Not to mention it sales, not money from the sales. Old digital games on sale won’t run for nearly as much as a new copy of Resi physical further twisting numbers.

Terrible reporting. That means 20% of sales are physical on console. And what would they be for games that are les than two years old? They’re probably be up to 35-45%. This article is so disingenuous and twisting the numbers without a real breakdown it’s not even funny

This is also a matter of secondary effects. Reducing what makes people passionate can also make less fans be created and reduce current passions of fans which drive spending. There are lots of things that can go wrong that don’t exist on a spreadsheet.

@Psnfanboy79 I’ll explain to for you. Greed and a total monopoly on the exact prices the games are sold at with no ability to buy secondhand so consumers have less options.

@Rezium I’d also point out this disparity would also include small digital only games. If I buy a $10-20 digital game that was never gonna get physical, should that really be apart of the conversation with the physical rates? I want to see the difference with only games that are sold physically,

@ButteredCrumpet Considering they lost what seems half or more of their games this gen on insane nonsensical live service bets for every IP and then shut down otherwise profitable studios because they told them to work on an obviously bad project, I would not bank on them actually knowing what they’re doing. The leadership seems to lack of basic gut sense about how reality actually works Vs what a spreadsheet detached from real life says.

There’s still a lot of market for physical games. Sony needs to backtrack.

They should just make it a DLC pack. There’s lot of cool user-made missions that should be kept and preserved.

This is bad. This is just censorship. This is just saying “people might find it offensive, so we’re neutering the story to avoid a little offense”.

I really want to want this, but the lack of high/low profile really makes the remake unfaithful to me. Jogging as opposed to walking by default is a huge difference in how the games plays, and having played Mirage, not for the better. I’m very disappointed they couldn’t even offer normal AC controls after touting a faithful remakes.

@johnedwin This would be good. Even if it only stated that if physical wasn’t a real option, you own a digital listen and can sell if you can’t buy a physical copy u you can sell. That would make the companies scramble to offer physical.

@UltimateOtaku91 This will be good for us regardless. I don’t care if it adds to the cost, Sony needs the pressure it’ll be better Xbox consumers.

I hope we get a choice later in the game. This one should let you choose your loyalties towards the end.

@IllusiveMan Yep, some people seem to feel a bit powerless so they have talk about how actually it’s a good thing.

@UltimateOtaku91 I really hope Xbox does this and comes up with some great exclusive games. Sony needs competition and ASAP.

This is awful news. We went from winning E3 by still having used games to getting rid of physical games. Awful awful news. This also gives total control over pricing and hurts physical stores. I’m questioning if I’ll even want a PS6 now. Not to mention this has ramifications for backwards compatibility for all my discs.

Sony needs to reverse this. This beyond bad news for consumers. Watch your sales be less and less generous over time while you’re told it’s “the natural evolution”.

@Dogbreath it’s subsidizing it? Are you that naive? The game will makes billions at just $70 (let alone $80) no add ons. It’s not subsidizing anything, it’s gouging you. Cars and other things are physical goods, taking stuff out reduces the price to make the good. Removing shops does not reduce the cost of anything in a piece of software.

Wow, Rockstar is just plain scummy right now.

@Bingoboyop Yeah, GTA6 seems like a disaster for the industry in terms of practices.

It wasn’t that hard. That’s a bad decision. Not everything should be made easy like that. You might just not be bake to 100% everything.
Or how about this, it should only be nerfed in easy mode.

@AdamNovice To be fair, COD was still a respectable series when black ops 1 came out. Black Ops 2 was probably the last time it was such or the start of the series going downhill.

@ThroughTheIris56 Maybe they’re taking their time on it since 5 is still selling millions of copies each year. I do want 6 soon though.

The story is getting a conclusion this long after? So the game was that blatantly unfinished at launch?