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Payday 3 is good and much improved from Payday 2, which whole fun, is so janky and 3 is a great improvement to it. It’s gotten some really good DLC too. The fan base after a rocky launch almost wants it to fail out of misplaced spite I feel like.

@donv2135 I was honestly thinking about before I realized those details. The PS5 has a strong resell value still so it would only have been a few hundred dollars.

It’s not that $700 is necessarily too much, but $700 without a disc drive or stand is far too much.

@LogicStrikesAgain The problem isn’t a high price, the problem is nickel and diming me for basic features with a high price. It’d be better to make it $750 and include the entire package than try to make a profit off of them,

This is gonna be a rough launch with how much it is and cheap Sony is being with the disc drive and vertical stand….

Screw this. $700 without a disc drive?! Heck no. I’m out. I was thinking about it
And the stand!? This is insane. Nickel and diming. I went from considering this to “I hope this fails like Concord”.

Considering how much of the game needs a rework, I’m not getting my hopes for anything beyond something small.

Of course they’re out of touch. The characters were intentionally ugly, someone wanted to make ugly things seems cool and was allowed to push that in a 200M project. The audience was suppers to like Concord despite being spat on.

This will hopefully be a slap of reality for Sony that these things are dangerous. I’m genuinely glad Concord is such a failure because Sony needed this message on many levels.

I’m looking forward to it. An ending to my game is finally getting patched in after a year of having a joke of a 40 second stand in cutscene instead.

Let’s be real, some of those character designs are downright ugly on purpose.
There’s a difference between not being DoA and trying to make your game intentionally ugly and then pretend it’s still cool.

Are they replacing it for a version without the new game?

@ShogunRok How many normal fights are there between bosses? I actually find the lack of exploration kind of refreshing in favor of being straight to the point.

I’m not that interested in this, but I’d like a proper sequel. I quite enjoyed the first and thought it was nice to have a focused game.

This looks cool. I’m hoping it’s easy to join a house/guild and fight in battles that way. Let the really active players guide it more and let casuals be the grunts.

Is this a first or third person game? I'm confused about how that works.

@RBMango Yeah, they know their community can act this way, so hyping flames and then nerfing them just is just makes me want to ask “What did you think was gonna happen?”
It’s not even realistic either, it’s less realistic to a a flamethrower now. If it was realistic they’d buff the range of the flamethrower instead of this rework lol.

But yeah I think that would be a great convo to have.
They recently put up a feedback form and I expressed my feelings, including that the flamethrower needed a nerf, but not a giant one. I also mentioned how the timing was tone deaf.

@RBMango I would argue things are more buffed than at launch overall. I think people are often dramatic so the the nerfs, it that being even the animation for the flamethrower sucks now. They also did this right when we got the flame warbond, so the timing was incredibly poor and tone deaf.

The flamethrower actually did need a nerf, but it needed to be far less dramatic and and much more minor.
And as for the vision thing, the flamethrower has been the same since it got buffed for the most part and then they let us get a module that increased flame damage for most weapons including the flamethrower by 25% and it was an expensive later game upgrade so this comes across as incredibly poor planning since they’ve buffed something that in theory already too strong.

It's a shame this isn't done better with deeper and more praiseworthy story elements tied to the town and whatnot. I actually think this the style of this game combined with inspiration from Azure Dreams and Rune Factory (4 especially) would make for a great expansive anime game template without dipping into an AAA budget.
So I hope better games are inspired by the idea. A number isekais could be done like this (or an original) without relying on the source material to read if they went all in.

@Kienda I’m with you, also it only seems that lesser stuff like this is bad and gets removed. If you want to put full nudity and have genitals sliders it’s great and celebrated, but this is too much.
It makes no sense. This is mild and frankly silly compared to that stuff, and I am opposed to the blatant nudity and such being in games.

@freddquadros Okay, so we have some review bombing on a few big games easy to find info about, great, you protect you persecuted AAA games!
Now what about all the indies that don't reviews from sites like this or might be cool or might be shovelware? This isn't for games that get review bombed, this is for smaller games that we attempt to find Steam reviews for, because it's great that I have to go on Steam before I buy a game on PlayStation.

@Bingbongboyo That's insane, you could beat so many games not be able to review it. Just let someone purchase it and review it, maybe include time played like Steam does.

@Sacrosanctus This is a return to a PS3 style of single-player goodness and multiplayer too baby!

Yes please! People against this are crazy. The fact that I have to on Steam, a competing platform to find out if a game is real or shovelware is insane. This needs to be implemented 10 years ago, later this year is the next best option.
I want to see if a game is good by looking here reviews. This will be a huge boon for indies.

@Frmknst Resi 8, Resi 4, GT7, Synapse?

That thumbnail reminds of the pig that ate the girl in Bloodborne. That was sad.

@Deityjester As someone who's been playing since launch day - what are you talking about? The game has more than enough content for its $40. Chiv 2 is a great game and I'm not disappointed at all with it. It was worth it on launch day and they've done great support for it. Game's don't need to be supported for a decade after release, I'm happy to play what we have and to wait for Chiv 3 now.

Does this make any meaningful gameplay or control changes that would justify buying this over already having the PS Classic PS2 version?

@jrt87 I’d easily say RE8 felt like that. It’s one of the most incredible gaming experiences I’ve ever had.

Reminder: We have no idea that this is a fire sale.

@Moonmonkey We don’t know, it could be that, it could be get rid of some overstock, it could be a test to see how price affects it and if people do want it after a dramatic cut (if it doesn’t sell at this price, it’s dead, if it does, it’s means there’s real interest still and they can leverage it), or could be a combination of the layer two.
There’s a lot of great games for it and some great games in the pipeline. If you think you’d enjoy I’d grab one for this price.

@kendomustdie Is there a graphics mode where this is more frame rate loss? I'm disappointed that this doesn't push it enough that the frame has issues and wonder if I can the setting to make the framerate chug a little.
EDF and bad framerate go together so well.

@ApostateMage I think having a voice for a few things, but not for voice lines is a good in-between. BG3 did that very well.

Return to its roots by not including the blood mage (or something similar) class because it’s too evil…. Right because BioWare games don’t let you make choices including evil ones at their roots…

@Athrum You can pause game with turn based mode to achieve the same basic thing at least. But I do agree.

Sounds like a ton of fun, but I feel like we’re gonna get another GTP gotcha which will ruin a lot of it.

I’m looking forward to the new evil endings, a year later my first playthrough might get an actual ending to it.

I've had fun playing this flat on PC and have heard good things about the VR from a friend on PC, I'll easily get this unless I hear the port is just terrible.

This game was great in the PS2. I’m glad to see it get a remaster. I’m interested in this one.

@nomither6 I want another War for Cybertron type game or at least a remaster. It’s a shame that’s stuck on the PS3.
That series just needs some better melee and we’ll be set.

It was hard to figure out what to after Resi 7 or 8:Villagev

It sounds like I should my PS3 HD copy instead, that would be simpler and easier.

Remake or remaster?
This is an expensive remake or remaster, it costs more than the original did at launch. I played a little back in the day.

Persona has great romance and I don’t see why it would be an issue here, rulers often also like to use their power lol.

@Porco Well, if it worked with discs that would be the really amazing thing.

That looks pretty cool, if they do the town aspect well enough I might grab it.

I’m shocked 30 million people even know Netflix has games.

@AdamNovice At least do this I’ll consider getting this one again, because Astrobot is a VR franchise first and foremost to me.
I’m not happy with the lack of PSVR2 stuff since it’s such a great headset.

I hope this goes on long enough for me to sign on and fight for the children.

It won’t be very good, this isn’t surprising at all. It looked this way from the start.
But don’t trash Golden Abyss like that, that was a good game.

If it's like the one in the PS3 HD collection, it'll be super easy to get too. I wish we could just get the HD collection or an upgraded version of that to be honest.