@romando No. Stray is an indie game. What he means is releasing AAA games which cost about 200 million on sub day 1. Microsoft did that but very few first-party AAA since GP launch. You just try to group 2 companies with different visions as a farce. Hard disagree.
There is no way to survive releasing these games day 1 on the subscription service. Microsoft survives only because they only released very few first party AAA games (most bombed) since gp launch (and padded with indie games) and they have loads of money from other sectors. No way Sony could afford to release their games day 1.
Outdated email but still actively implementing it. I understand Microsoft's reasoning but what disgusts me is they and their fanboys are acting like they are doing it for the sake of gamers. Pretty rubbish excuse.
Wel, the last time Bungie released a new game was when- about 4-5 years ago? MLB is a niche product and don’t need optimisation. Meanwhile COD alone is an annual big franchise and each entry is developed 2/3 years in advance. Your comparison and including that in the title doesn’t make sense at all.
I just pre-order it now. The reviews are glowing everywhere. Not sure when I get around to playing it with my busy work. but some developers just deserve it. I like the new directions of the story driven and action combat. Not everyone has time to level up everything. I don't like turn-based games. Interestingly IGN praise later side quests which are captivating. What are your thoughts on that?
@Chaotic_Goat There is Humanity and Tchia, both of which are much better than simulator games often debuted on Xbox. And what is the point of playing those small indie games day one? There are many small indie games available on ps plus. All those TMNT, simulator games debuted on GP coming later to PS plus too. Granted there are bigger games like Plague Tale that debuted but that too will come later and the reason it was debuted on GP was Xbox has a barren year with 0 first party exclusives last year and they need to release something on GP.
lol Xbox, after Sony showcase, remind some games coming to Xbox too and its fans rejoiced. What a low and cheap tactic! Making games exclusive for a year is one thing, embargoing the news of games being multiplatform is such a ridiculous tactic. No sure why they want to waste money for that. I mean I never have a doubt. Given the scarcity of exclusives, Microsoft would put it on banners if it is truly exclusive.
I told you any 3rd party game debuted on gamepass eventually comes to PS plus. I will never buy any game like that. Now TMNT, waiting for the plague tale next. Can't believe people keep saying gp is of more value. In fact, based on the recent line up, PS plus extra is of much more value.
I am excited about this game. Splatoon is a great game; even being a rip of that would be great. This shouldn't be 70$ though, either free to play or 30-40$ would be great. Diablo 4 is also a live service game full of MTX, it is well received.
People just said rubbish to almost every game at Sony showcase for not being a first party AAA game and just because it is Square Enix. They did not have great years lately but Guardian of the Galaxy, Tomb Raider, and Octopath are all great. Avenger single-player campaign was good too (they did burn a lot of money for licensing though). Unfortunately people only remember the rubbish Avenger live service part.
Games keep coming. Idiots would complain nothing was announced then if they would still complain when announced games don't get released in a year. Sony has changed since TLOU 2 leaks, they don't announce games too early. Meanwhile how many first-party exclusives have been released on Xbox. It is the games released that matter. As long as they release 2-3 first-party exclusives a year, then that's fine.
What more shocking is how low you have become. They just answer the questions (which they probably made up themselves) to give information about there will be new music arrangement. And your title of there will be music in the game is quite misleading. You have been doing a series of rubbish posts based on these in the last few days.
Good news. Fighting games are niche and are always daunting for casuals. As much as I grew up in SF II era and used to play SF 2 a lot back then, I haven't played any fighting games for ages (except Smash Bros).
@Ken_Kaniff I agree, only 20$/year more expensive if buy at full price and people moan a lot. You got those classic games and free trials+ streaming. What more people are expecting for 20$ difference?
A proof that the graphics aren't everything. Nintendo surely knows how to create lovely characters and fun games. Mario games never have character depth, but everyone loves them. I watched Mario movies a few weeks ago and loved it. I have never played Zelda games and won't play this one either. But I have seen a lot of people spend hundreds of hours in BOTW.
The first one is intriguing except for the finale rat fights which was a bit ridiculous. Still waiting to come to PS Plus/ extra as those games debuted on GP day eventually come to it.
TLOU 2 is a masterpiece. Who would have thought you would have fought your beloved character as a boss? The climax and that flashback with Joel in between are really strong. Haters just talking nonsense. While they can hate for different reasons, it was pathetic they bring LGBT as a main reason for their hate while that theme has never been part of a major plot.
@The_Crow_Chat To gloat over PlayStation, they really want it. Thing is gamepass has been dry since launch apart from very occasional first party titles. They really need big name. Microsoft will likely raise the fee after the merger. Even now they close the promotion which the vast majority use to subscribe 3 years. Tbh, that whole 3 years have been pretty meh and my subscription will finish in coming Sept.
There have been complaints against Microsoft by smaller competitors in the UK as they have been offering their software free (especially teams/ outlook/ 365) during COVID to NHS. Now almost all NHS trusts adopt Microsoft software and windows. (Although ipad is largely used by them too)
@ManaOwls There is usually a trade in program once new model launched at least in PS4 era. Originally bought slim 500gb then swap with 1TB slim for minimal price with new FIFA and then swapped with PS4 pro for minimal price again. I sold PS 4 pro at a price comparable to or slight loss what I paid for these consoles once II got PS5.
Excited for this although the only FF I’ve played is FFX-2. I am really glad it is not a full open world. Open world games usually take a lot of time to finish and I simply don’t have time. I like more fast paced action than turn based.
@Thumper Superman or the Flash games are difficult to make unless you take away some of their abilities. Smallville-style powers limit might work though. Wonder woman or maybe Aquaman games might be easier to make. I am interested to see how EA will make the Iron Man game.
Maybe the minority. I like the fluidity they show. And I really yearn for good co-op games to play with my brother. I will still wait for it, as live service game prices tend to drop quite quickly or become free depending on how well they do.
Why it was off-topic when the whole situation has been blown out by Xbox fans? And this is not even the first time this kind of thing happened. There is nothing in my comment which flame the console war or rude words. I am just expressing my opinion.
@Psnfanboy79 It is not just that. I notice almost every game which debuts day 1 gp eventually comes to PS plus. So yeah, I avoid buying those games. Examples are back 4 blood, street of rage 4, and even death loop and Yakuza 7 (Like a Dragon). Now waiting for Plaugue Requium and Ninja Turtle.
Looks fun. I am thinking to start playing Destiny 2 with recent one expansion being free and I finished with B4B. Disappointed with Back 4 Blood as I finish all chapters in just 1-2 weeks. What class/ subclass would I take? I am not good with FPS usually.
@get2sammyb I think 50 million is a good number for the gaming market, which is still less popular than movie entertainment. It seems the cap for the latter is just over 200 million.
How a game without a good story gets universal acclaim is beyond me. For me, that (followed by gameplay) is the most important aspect of any game. Generally don't like the open world much as they are too time-consuming. I really enjoy games like heavy rain, and Detroit even though they don't have a lot of gameplay elements.
@FatalBubbles Means there are fewer options with Xbox. To be honest, Gamepass was also underwhelming in 2022. You only get third-party indie games with 0 first-party AAA games throughout the year. Since the next-gen, they have only released 2 first-party AAA games. Surprisingly they are doing well just with promises for the future.
@HunterRose Last I read, Xbox turned down the opportunity to make the Spider-Man game, and hence it went to Sony. Sony asked Insomaniac to make the game. Spider-Man wasn't exclusive just because they bought Insomaniac. Your facts are twisted.
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Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Lose These 10 PS5, PS4 Games Next Month
@romando No. Stray is an indie game. What he means is releasing AAA games which cost about 200 million on sub day 1. Microsoft did that but very few first-party AAA since GP launch. You just try to group 2 companies with different visions as a farce. Hard disagree.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Cost $220 Million to Make, Horizon Forbidden West Cost $212 Million
There is no way to survive releasing these games day 1 on the subscription service. Microsoft survives only because they only released very few first party AAA games (most bombed) since gp launch (and padded with indie games) and they have loads of money from other sectors. No way Sony could afford to release their games day 1.
Re: PS Plus Extra, Premium Lose These 10 PS5, PS4 Games Next Month
@romando if you read properly before you jump in comment session, you would know he means gamepass model where it releases day one AAA games.
Re: Microsoft's Potential Game Plan in 2020: 'Spend Sony Out of Business'
They are just fanboys. Neutrals don't fall for their pretty obvious lies.
Re: Microsoft's Potential Game Plan in 2020: 'Spend Sony Out of Business'
Outdated email but still actively implementing it. I understand Microsoft's reasoning but what disgusts me is they and their fanboys are acting like they are doing it for the sake of gamers. Pretty rubbish excuse.
Re: Sony 'Can't Risk' Sharing PS6 Details with a Microsoft-Owned Activision
Wel, the last time Bungie released a new game was when- about 4-5 years ago? MLB is a niche product and don’t need optimisation. Meanwhile COD alone is an annual big franchise and each entry is developed 2/3 years in advance. Your comparison and including that in the title doesn’t make sense at all.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 (PS5) - Final Fantasy's Triumphant Return to the Top
I just pre-order it now. The reviews are glowing everywhere. Not sure when I get around to playing it with my busy work. but some developers just deserve it. I like the new directions of the story driven and action combat. Not everyone has time to level up everything. I don't like turn-based games. Interestingly IGN praise later side quests which are captivating. What are your thoughts on that?
Re: Where to Pre-Order Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Collector's and Deluxe Editions on PS5
@Ooccoo_Jr Well Maybe because there is now digital only PS5, if they include disc, those people have to buy digital game again.
Re: Sony Says Not Making PS5, PS4 Exclusives Free with PS Plus on Day One Is a Strategy That's Working
@Chaotic_Goat what i mean is do you need to play them day1?
Re: Genshin Impact, Honkai: Star Rail Dev's Profits Eclipse Even PlayStation
I bet most of the spending is from mobile gamers.
Re: Sony Says Not Making PS5, PS4 Exclusives Free with PS Plus on Day One Is a Strategy That's Working
@Chaotic_Goat There is Humanity and Tchia, both of which are much better than simulator games often debuted on Xbox. And what is the point of playing those small indie games day one? There are many small indie games available on ps plus. All those TMNT, simulator games debuted on GP coming later to PS plus too. Granted there are bigger games like Plague Tale that debuted but that too will come later and the reason it was debuted on GP was Xbox has a barren year with 0 first party exclusives last year and they need to release something on GP.
Re: Xbox Had Embargoed Persona Dev's Metaphor: ReFantazio After All, as Fantasy RPG Is Confirmed for PS5, PS4
lol Xbox, after Sony showcase, remind some games coming to Xbox too and its fans rejoiced. What a low and cheap tactic! Making games exclusive for a year is one thing, embargoing the news of games being multiplatform is such a ridiculous tactic. No sure why they want to waste money for that. I mean I never have a doubt. Given the scarcity of exclusives, Microsoft would put it on banners if it is truly exclusive.
Re: 27 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Confirmed for Big June Update
I told you any 3rd party game debuted on gamepass eventually comes to PS plus. I will never buy any game like that. Now TMNT, waiting for the plague tale next. Can't believe people keep saying gp is of more value. In fact, based on the recent line up, PS plus extra is of much more value.
Re: Preview: Ignore the Snark, Foamstars Is Good
I am excited about this game. Splatoon is a great game; even being a rip of that would be great. This shouldn't be 70$ though, either free to play or 30-40$ would be great. Diablo 4 is also a live service game full of MTX, it is well received.
People just said rubbish to almost every game at Sony showcase for not being a first party AAA game and just because it is Square Enix. They did not have great years lately but Guardian of the Galaxy, Tomb Raider, and Octopath are all great. Avenger single-player campaign was good too (they did burn a lot of money for licensing though). Unfortunately people only remember the rubbish Avenger live service part.
Re: Apparently Some People Hate the New PS5, PS4 Prince of Persia Game
Why? There are always haters for everything, everywhere.
Re: Sony Will Not Attend Giant German Convention Gamescom This Year
Games keep coming. Idiots would complain nothing was announced then if they would still complain when announced games don't get released in a year. Sony has changed since TLOU 2 leaks, they don't announce games too early. Meanwhile how many first-party exclusives have been released on Xbox. It is the games released that matter. As long as they release 2-3 first-party exclusives a year, then that's fine.
Re: In a Shock Twist, Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Will Have Music on PS5
What more shocking is how low you have become. They just answer the questions (which they probably made up themselves) to give information about there will be new music arrangement. And your title of there will be music in the game is quite misleading. You have been doing a series of rubbish posts based on these in the last few days.
Re: Want More Resident Evil Remakes? Tell Capcom Which Ones in Official Survey
I only finished RE 1,2,3, code veronica, 5 and 6. Unlike others, I really like the co-op aspects of 5 and 6. I hope they remake them too.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Set to Be a Colossal Fighting Game Hit
Good news. Fighting games are niche and are always daunting for casuals. As much as I grew up in SF II era and used to play SF 2 a lot back then, I haven't played any fighting games for ages (except Smash Bros).
Re: It's Time! PS5's Next Mortal Kombat Will Be Announced Tomorrow
@SoulChimera He is the most boring character in the movie. I hope not but then again MK story is very repetitive and boring.
Re: Elle Fanning: People Say Death Stranding 2 Is The Coolest Thing I've Ever Done
She is more beautiful than her elder sister Dakota. Have been supporting her since The curious case of Benjamin Button.
Re: Square Enix Wants to Release More Higher Quality Games, Starting with Final Fantasy 16
They were hit hard by Marvel's license. While GOTG was well received, it didn't sell very well either.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for May 2023?
@Ken_Kaniff I agree, only 20$/year more expensive if buy at full price and people moan a lot. You got those classic games and free trials+ streaming. What more people are expecting for 20$ difference?
Re: Random: Final Fantasy 14's Yoshi-P Couldn't Stop Playing Zelda During PS5, PS4 MMO's Test Stream
A proof that the graphics aren't everything. Nintendo surely knows how to create lovely characters and fun games. Mario games never have character depth, but everyone loves them. I watched Mario movies a few weeks ago and loved it. I have never played Zelda games and won't play this one either. But I have seen a lot of people spend hundreds of hours in BOTW.
Re: A Plague Tale: Requiem Treated to 60fps Mode in New PS5 Patch
The first one is intriguing except for the finale rat fights which was a bit ridiculous. Still waiting to come to PS Plus/ extra as those games debuted on GP day eventually come to it.
Re: Poll: What's the Best PlayStation Startup Sequence?
Nothing beats the feeling when I was able to boot up the PS1 disc. Nostalgic and awesome. Own every PS except PS 3.
Re: PS Store Sales Charts: The Last of Us 2 Rides High on HBO Series Success
TLOU 2 is a masterpiece. Who would have thought you would have fought your beloved character as a boss? The climax and that flashback with Joel in between are really strong. Haters just talking nonsense. While they can hate for different reasons, it was pathetic they bring LGBT as a main reason for their hate while that theme has never been part of a major plot.
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
@The_Crow_Chat To gloat over PlayStation, they really want it. Thing is gamepass has been dry since launch apart from very occasional first party titles. They really need big name. Microsoft will likely raise the fee after the merger. Even now they close the promotion which the vast majority use to subscribe 3 years. Tbh, that whole 3 years have been pretty meh and my subscription will finish in coming Sept.
Re: Microsoft Goes Scorched Earth Over UK's Activision Buyout Block
There have been complaints against Microsoft by smaller competitors in the UK as they have been offering their software free (especially teams/ outlook/ 365) during COVID to NHS. Now almost all NHS trusts adopt Microsoft software and windows. (Although ipad is largely used by them too)
Re: Wild Hearts, Wo Long Were 'Successful', but Koei Tecmo Sidesteps Sales Numbers
These games are for niche audiences. Plus, any game which launches day 1 on subscription services will be bound to suffer a lot in terms of sales.
Re: Preview: Dead Island 2 Makes Up for Lost Time with Fun
It would be nice if this is a third-person view, or at least there is an option. Need a good co-op game.
Re: PS5 Sales Just Aren't Stopping in Japan as Sony's Console Is Still King
Wow, PS4 sold better than Xbox X/S combined. Thought PS4 production already stopped?
Re: PS5 Sales Surged An Outrageous 316% in the UK Last Month
@ManaOwls There is usually a trade in program once new model launched at least in PS4 era. Originally bought slim 500gb then swap with 1TB slim for minimal price with new FIFA and then swapped with PS4 pro for minimal price again. I sold PS 4 pro at a price comparable to or slight loss what I paid for these consoles once II got PS5.
Re: Preview: Final Fantasy 16 Is Shaping Up to Be a PS5 Game of the Year Contender
Excited for this although the only FF I’ve played is FFX-2. I am really glad it is not a full open world. Open world games usually take a lot of time to finish and I simply don’t have time. I like more fast paced action than turn based.
Re: The Response to Rocksteady's Suicide Squad Has Been Abysmal
@Thumper Superman or the Flash games are difficult to make unless you take away some of their abilities. Smallville-style powers limit might work though. Wonder woman or maybe Aquaman games might be easier to make. I am interested to see how EA will make the Iron Man game.
Re: The Response to Rocksteady's Suicide Squad Has Been Abysmal
Maybe the minority. I like the fluidity they show. And I really yearn for good co-op games to play with my brother. I will still wait for it, as live service game prices tend to drop quite quickly or become free depending on how well they do.
Re: Sony Has No Console Exclusivity Over Baldur's Gate 3
Why it was off-topic when the whole situation has been blown out by Xbox fans? And this is not even the first time this kind of thing happened. There is nothing in my comment which flame the console war or rude words. I am just expressing my opinion.
Re: Sony Has No Console Exclusivity Over Baldur's Gate 3
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Re: Microsoft Admits Xbox Game Pass Is Harming Software Sales After All
@Psnfanboy79 It is not just that. I notice almost every game which debuts day 1 gp eventually comes to PS plus. So yeah, I avoid buying those games. Examples are back 4 blood, street of rage 4, and even death loop and Yakuza 7 (Like a Dragon). Now waiting for Plaugue Requium and Ninja Turtle.
Re: January 2023 NPD: PS5 Dominates as HBO Powers The Last of Us Up the Charts
@Green-Bandit Why do you still want the PS5 version for it? Didn't it get updated to play at 60fps?
Re: Over 1,000 PS5, PS4 Games Discounted in PS Store Sale
@danlk1ng You paid much more to buy a decent PC to play that. Plus, it was 49 during the last sale.
Re: Destiny 2: Lightfall Details Your New 'Strand' Powers
Looks fun. I am thinking to start playing Destiny 2 with recent one expansion being free and I finished with B4B. Disappointed with Back 4 Blood as I finish all chapters in just 1-2 weeks. What class/ subclass would I take? I am not good with FPS usually.
Re: PS Plus, Xbox Game Pass Aren't Big Enough to Impact Business, Says Take-Two Boss
@get2sammyb I think 50 million is a good number for the gaming market, which is still less popular than movie entertainment. It seems the cap for the latter is just over 200 million.
Re: The Last of Us: Part 1's PC Release Date Delayed a Few Weeks
@palmab Why? Wouldn't it be better to release while the TV series is gaining momentum?
Re: Random: Streamer Beats Two Elden Ring Runs at the Same Time, Complete with a Dance Pad
All these soul games are about patience and pattern recognition, although playing 2 games simultaneously is a feat.
Re: Elden Ring Dominates God of War Ragnarok in GOTY Awards, Breaks The Last of Us 2's Record
How a game without a good story gets universal acclaim is beyond me. For me, that (followed by gameplay) is the most important aspect of any game. Generally don't like the open world much as they are too time-consuming. I really enjoy games like heavy rain, and Detroit even though they don't have a lot of gameplay elements.
Re: Rumour: PS Plus Essential PS5, PS4 Games for January 2023 Leaked Early
@FatalBubbles Means there are fewer options with Xbox. To be honest, Gamepass was also underwhelming in 2022. You only get third-party indie games with 0 first-party AAA games throughout the year. Since the next-gen, they have only released 2 first-party AAA games. Surprisingly they are doing well just with promises for the future.
Re: The Last of Us: Part I on PC Costs $20 Less Than PS5 Version
But can 499 PC play this as good quality as PS5?
Re: US Government's FTC Will Attempt to Block Microsoft's Activision Buyout
@HunterRose Last I read, Xbox turned down the opportunity to make the Spider-Man game, and hence it went to Sony. Sony asked Insomaniac to make the game. Spider-Man wasn't exclusive just because they bought Insomaniac. Your facts are twisted.
Re: US Government's FTC Will Attempt to Block Microsoft's Activision Buyout
@Kienda But now you keep paying money for promises rather than actual games, aren't you?