Agree with others. The title is totally misleading. I feel it is deliberate. Unrelated, most sales (including non gaming) happen in Nov this year. I don’t know why not a lot of sale in Dec for Xmas. There used to be more in previous years in the U.K. Too close to BF, I guess.
Despite the loud noises from gamers everywhere, we need to accept that the majority spend a lot of time on these f2p games. Once a live service game stuck, it became a gold mine. Personally, I prefer games like FF16, Spiderman 2, but with development cost it is only a bombed game away from bankrupcy for most developers, hence they need a backup successful f2p game, but again the market is saturated. I wish foamstars becomes successful.
You wouldn't believe some xbox fanboys come and suffer in this kind of article. Ignore such trolls, people. We have a lot of great games coming out one after another this year that even goty nomination was difficult and these trolls keep moaning there is no game to play, no exclusive, slap in the face for releasing on PS4 blah blah. I bought PS5 as soon as I got my hands on it, and never felt angry that most games were released on the previous gen. Sony could have followed Microsoft's way and announced games in 6-7 years in advance and gave minimal updates with every gameshow. But what is the point? They have definitely changed their stance since the TLOU 2 delay and subsequent plot leak (Some idiots justify the leak for the delay back then).
If they did it right, mp game in tlou world has a potential. I was looking forward to it.The faction mode in TLOU 1 was quite enjoyable. I guess the project becomes too big for them to handle.i hope it comes with some MP mode in their next game.
@Godot25 lol what? fatihyazici7 website is your source? Are you kidding? I don't even dare to open it. 20 million on 120 is still better than 30 out of 300 and those 20 million have to pay unlike free with promo sub. Indiana may not be as big as Spider-Man but it definitely has bigger name recognition than God of War, Uncharted, HZD, Tushima etc. So should have sold more than these based on >300 million base, don't you think?
@Godot25 you must be quite tiring coming to the PlayStation site every day and praising Xbox. lol
OK let's break it down. Even forgetting about the a lot of overlapping users, there aren't 300+ million combining all Steam, gog, Epic and smaller service. Although I don't play games on PC, I have steam, epic, battlenet, gog accounts to claim free games. So that is the LITERAL numbers you provided? Liar! 30 million out of a possible 300 + million (if I take your number) for a free game available on 1 $ promo service is a bad number (Oh I was one of them).
The fact that you don't think Indiana and other exclusives would sell more than PS exclusives speaks volumes. (why should games on 50 million base system sell more than 300 millions base). It does not make sense. Don't want to argue over stupid console wars, my original point was you are overestimating the numbers of pc gamers.
@Godot25 sorry where is your proof of monthly active users? Despite vastly outnumbering console gamers, why games are usually sold more on consoles? Piracy?
Oh GP always count everyone who downloads and plays even 10 sec. Rockstar not releasing on day and date is more than double dipping. Rampant piracy on PC is one of them.
The horror/ Psycho thriller genre is more niche. Those who haven't played Alan Wake 1 would not buy it either. No physical release as mentioned by others is just an excuse. Digital sales have been far more than physical in recent years.
@Godot25 funny you are overestimating PC number. While there are billions of PC, PC gamers are very minority. Hence GTA 6 or 5 or RDR 2 never release day and date on PC (also because of piracy problem and more difficult to optimise). I can say for sure even combined with PC Indiana or even Xbox exclusives did not sell as well as PS exclusives.
@twitchtvpat Not really when game award spend more time on game and trailers. But thing is there are other game awards too, why give more attention to that?
Those who fear the games will be taken away as it is always online are like people who fear the sky falling one day. I mean almost everyone who plays games has access to the internet. And you fear the game will be taken away, obviously multiplayer part will stop to exist but the solo play can be easily made available after they stop the server like Avengers. Usual game preservation blah blah is so cliche. I would just rather enjoy the present, although it does not mean I will buy this at launch.
Playing this in co-op would be fantastic. For me, RPG needs to be an action one like this. Turn-based like Mario or balder gate wouldn't do for me despite rave reviews.
This is more realistic, don't need to be upset as long as the game is good. Remember China is kind of an authoritarian country. They just recently banned one of the singers performed in French strip club.
Lol, people who gloat in 50s posts of Microsoft buying Activision, VR2 not selling much, Xbox outsold PS5 in Japan etc are now saying this article flaming. Hypocrites. lol. The biggest joke.
I am excited for this. Seem a great co-op title. Traversal is great smooth and swift. Wish combat included more melee though. The story would be good knowing Rocksteady.
So MK1 won best MP in joystick or whatever award but not even nominated here (for mp). Starfield was put into right place. If it were not for biggest exclusives for xbox in many years, it wouldn’t even be that hyped. Hogwarts and ff16 snub were a surprise though but this year is especially competitive.
Got it for 150£. So a bargain. Useless to compare to steamdeck. Yes deck is more versatile but also more expensive. But more importantly, for those who dont have any game in steam library, it would cost a lot more later. The thing is gone are the days people game on commute, on streets etc (still a few left) due to mobile phones. I have switch but it is always on dock. So playing at home is fine for me.
@NotSoCryptic Well 7 million downloads is a lot, considering their low-key release, without being reviewed by any well known gaming and media websites. I don't normally check Steam as I am not PC gamer, but looking just now, it has a lot of user comments which in a way they do engage, not just download. Yes, the IP is well-loved and known. But a lot of people didn't even know its release. More importantly, why are you so worried about its success? Download numbers may not reflect its longevity (given it only has one mode at the moment). But why can't we just enjoy why it lasts?
Come on, they own Crunchyroll, the biggest anime streaming service. Sony doesn’t just operate PlayStation. Crunchy has 11 millions paid sub and much more are on free ad plan. Not bad for a niche streaming and the popularity of anime is on the rise too.
It has everything- story, combat, musical score and visuals. Even multiplayer component was great. Bogging down the score due to a few bad side quests was inappropriate. It should score higher. I guess every open world game has some or more rubbish side quests to pad out.
Hopefully, I will have some fun with Dragonball breakers and Aliens. My Hero Ultra Rumble by Namco is fun although there are a few Gacha elements. These are fun quick short burst games.
@Badger_Badgerski No standard game sold above 70. Fine with your limit. Also, try to understand when the producers try to keep the cost down with available means, especially in a small game like above where they only talk a few lines.
@Badger_Badgerski Well it is how the business work. It is easy to say when they are successful and making money. But there are also many companies which went out of business and bleeding money. I guess in a way it is similar to betting. Companies got most of the money as they are the one who risk and invest loads of money. They are the one who lost money if it didn’t do very well. They are not charity.
I am generally talking about all things- people who would like to get writer/ actors paid more should also expect that cost will be eventually spread to themselves.
Of note, the game price was cheaper compared to 90s, if you count the inflation. I don’t mean I want to pay more as the salary also mostly stay the same (for most professions at least in the UK). But everything else price has gone up.
@IronMike Cliche argument. And cliche explanation- the US price doesn’t include tax and no state in the US tax 20% like in the U.K. EU countries also tax a lot. But generally things also a bit cheaper in America and Asia. I am not sure about the reason they price earbud differently but it is common with tech products. Just wish U.K. cut some tax rate for ordinary people.
The righteous people want more people to get paid, but want the game price stays at the same 60$ and digital at 35$ forever. Voice actors are no longer cheap.
I mean Xbox has been having barren years since the latter years of Xbox One until now (when they have big AAA games back to back). Most people are probably locked into PS accounts from PS4 era. I predict the GP subscription number will go down next year, now that MS 1$/£ promo ended. I subscribed for 3 years but didn't use it much and it expired this month and did not renew.
I probably won't buy it as I usually don't finish horror game, never play Alan Wake 1 and the Remedy games come to PS plus. But I personally don't think digital only is a problem. Game preservation claims only concerns a very minority but very loud voice (still it is rubbish as a disc would only last so long). The only benefit I can see is you can trade-in/sell. I am also not sure why Remedy skipped physical, now that they are owned by Epic. The budget isn't an issue. Maybe they can sell more (as one can't buy used discs) and save some money by not putting on discs.
@UltimateOtaku91 Aiming is the word. Whether they can actually do is another matter. The thing is MS with all their financial might can only release 3-4 first party exclusives since next gen launch (yeah that’s about 3 years now)
@MagisterMagi Well a lot of Konami IPs go beyond Japanese markets and are well known in the rest of the world. But currently, their IPs aren't properly used.
@IOI well defend? I mean I have standing like this for 2 years with no problem with heating. I couldn’t just bother to install the stand. The stand itself is so low, I am not sure how it would helps with ventilation. That’s what I thought and I am so shocked someone would accuse and judge based on this. Disappointing!
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Re: PS5's UK Sales End 2023 Down by 19%, But Still the Leading Console
@Kienda Xbox also has discount in Nov in the U.K. In fact X version was sold cheaper than PS5 at some point, around 320-330.
Re: PS5's UK Sales End 2023 Down by 19%, But Still the Leading Console
Agree with others. The title is totally misleading. I feel it is deliberate. Unrelated, most sales (including non gaming) happen in Nov this year. I don’t know why not a lot of sale in Dec for Xmas. There used to be more in previous years in the U.K. Too close to BF, I guess.
Re: Game of the Year: Top 10 PS5, PS4 Soundtracks of 2023
A joke not to include FF16.
Re: PlayStation Reveals Most Played Games of 2023 by Region, Is Basically a Waste of Time
Despite the loud noises from gamers everywhere, we need to accept that the majority spend a lot of time on these f2p games. Once a live service game stuck, it became a gold mine. Personally, I prefer games like FF16, Spiderman 2, but with development cost it is only a bombed game away from bankrupcy for most developers, hence they need a backup successful f2p game, but again the market is saturated. I wish foamstars becomes successful.
Re: Bill & Ted's Excellent Retro Collection Will Be Removed from PS5, PS4 Very Soon
@Nepp67 But physical copies can also be damaged, and with time, they will not run either. Here, you can still download it once you buy it.
Re: Sony Officially Confirms PS5 Has Passed the 50 Million Units Milestone
You wouldn't believe some xbox fanboys come and suffer in this kind of article. Ignore such trolls, people. We have a lot of great games coming out one after another this year that even goty nomination was difficult and these trolls keep moaning there is no game to play, no exclusive, slap in the face for releasing on PS4 blah blah. I bought PS5 as soon as I got my hands on it, and never felt angry that most games were released on the previous gen. Sony could have followed Microsoft's way and announced games in 6-7 years in advance and gave minimal updates with every gameshow. But what is the point? They have definitely changed their stance since the TLOU 2 delay and subsequent plot leak (Some idiots justify the leak for the delay back then).
Re: The Last of Us' Cancelled PS5 Multiplayer Was 'More Fun' Than Any Other Online Game
yes like others, I think just release it as a standalone multiplayer at 10 or15$.
Re: The Last of Us Multiplayer Project Is Officially Cancelled
If they did it right, mp game in tlou world has a potential. I was looking forward to it.The faction mode in TLOU 1 was quite enjoyable. I guess the project becomes too big for them to handle.i hope it comes with some MP mode in their next game.
Re: Disney Doesn't Think It Was 'Overly Exclusionary' to Cut Planned PS5 Version of Indiana Jones
@Godot25 lol what? fatihyazici7 website is your source? Are you kidding? I don't even dare to open it. 20 million on 120 is still better than 30 out of 300 and those 20 million have to pay unlike free with promo sub. Indiana may not be as big as Spider-Man but it definitely has bigger name recognition than God of War, Uncharted, HZD, Tushima etc. So should have sold more than these based on >300 million base, don't you think?
Re: Disney Doesn't Think It Was 'Overly Exclusionary' to Cut Planned PS5 Version of Indiana Jones
@Godot25 you must be quite tiring coming to the PlayStation site every day and praising Xbox. lol
OK let's break it down. Even forgetting about the a lot of overlapping users, there aren't 300+ million combining all Steam, gog, Epic and smaller service. Although I don't play games on PC, I have steam, epic, battlenet, gog accounts to claim free games. So that is the LITERAL numbers you provided? Liar! 30 million out of a possible 300 + million (if I take your number) for a free game available on 1 $ promo service is a bad number (Oh I was one of them).
The fact that you don't think Indiana and other exclusives would sell more than PS exclusives speaks volumes. (why should games on 50 million base system sell more than 300 millions base). It does not make sense. Don't want to argue over stupid console wars, my original point was you are overestimating the numbers of pc gamers.
Re: Disney Doesn't Think It Was 'Overly Exclusionary' to Cut Planned PS5 Version of Indiana Jones
@Godot25 sorry where is your proof of monthly active users? Despite vastly outnumbering console gamers, why games are usually sold more on consoles? Piracy?
Oh GP always count everyone who downloads and plays even 10 sec. Rockstar not releasing on day and date is more than double dipping. Rampant piracy on PC is one of them.
Re: Critical Darling Alan Wake 2's Sales Seem Soft, But There's More to the Story
The horror/ Psycho thriller genre is more niche. Those who haven't played Alan Wake 1 would not buy it either. No physical release as mentioned by others is just an excuse. Digital sales have been far more than physical in recent years.
Re: Disney Doesn't Think It Was 'Overly Exclusionary' to Cut Planned PS5 Version of Indiana Jones
@Godot25 funny you are overestimating PC number. While there are billions of PC, PC gamers are very minority. Hence GTA 6 or 5 or RDR 2 never release day and date on PC (also because of piracy problem and more difficult to optimise). I can say for sure even combined with PC Indiana or even Xbox exclusives did not sell as well as PS exclusives.
Re: E3 Is Officially Dead
@twitchtvpat Not really when game award spend more time on game and trailers. But thing is there are other game awards too, why give more attention to that?
Re: Hackers Breach Insomniac Games, Marvel's Wolverine Details and Employee Data Up for Ransom
bitcoins and all those crypto encourage hackers and even state-sponsored attacks. NHS UK was held for ransom not long ago.
Re: Site News: Submit Your Snaps for the Push Square Community Screenshot Competition
Should have given some prizes to the top 3, like PS plus subscription or store money.
Re: E3 Is Officially Dead
I think it is at least better than the game award or all the events organised by that guy, SOrry lazy to look up his name.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Spotlights Its Brainwashed Heroes in Latest Trailer
Those who fear the games will be taken away as it is always online are like people who fear the sky falling one day. I mean almost everyone who plays games has access to the internet. And you fear the game will be taken away, obviously multiplayer part will stop to exist but the solo play can be easily made available after they stop the server like Avengers. Usual game preservation blah blah is so cliche. I would just rather enjoy the present, although it does not mean I will buy this at launch.
Re: Lead Bungie Staff Fear 'Total Sony Takeover' After Layoffs, Delays
Soul-crushing for things we never get at work. Annual compensation adjustment! wow
Re: Action RPG Granblue Fantasy: Relink Looks Fantastic in Hours of Raw PS5 Gameplay
Playing this in co-op would be fantastic. For me, RPG needs to be an action one like this. Turn-based like Mario or balder gate wouldn't do for me despite rave reviews.
Re: Street Fighter 6's Awesome New Outfits Are Out Now, But Fans Are Fuming at the Prices
I mean you can choose not to buy it. This is a norm these days. As long as it does not affect the gameplay, it is fine.
Re: Zenless Zone Zero Fans Are Aggrieved by Alleged Censorship in Upcoming Gacha Game
This is more realistic, don't need to be upset as long as the game is good. Remember China is kind of an authoritarian country. They just recently banned one of the singers performed in French strip club.
Re: PS Portal Outsells Xbox Series X|S During Launch Week in Spain
Lol, people who gloat in 50s posts of Microsoft buying Activision, VR2 not selling much, Xbox outsold PS5 in Japan etc are now saying this article flaming. Hypocrites. lol. The biggest joke.
Re: Suicide Squad Returns with All-New PS5 Gameplay
I am excited for this. Seem a great co-op title. Traversal is great smooth and swift. Wish combat included more melee though. The story would be good knowing Rocksteady.
Re: A Whopping 80% of Modern Warfare 3's Physical UK Sales Were on PS5, PS4
It was bundled with xbox too. People don’t just buy them?
Re: All The Game Awards 2023 Nominees Announced, Baldur's Gate 3 and Alan Wake 2 Lead the Way
So MK1 won best MP in joystick or whatever award but not even nominated here (for mp). Starfield was put into right place. If it were not for biggest exclusives for xbox in many years, it wouldn’t even be that hyped. Hogwarts and ff16 snub were a surprise though but this year is especially competitive.
Re: Hardware Review: PS Portal Is the Perfect PS5 Companion (For Some)
Got it for 150£. So a bargain. Useless to compare to steamdeck. Yes deck is more versatile but also more expensive. But more importantly, for those who dont have any game in steam library, it would cost a lot more later. The thing is gone are the days people game on commute, on streets etc (still a few left) due to mobile phones. I have switch but it is always on dock. So playing at home is fine for me.
Re: People Are Beginning to Play Around with PS5's Remote Play Handheld
I have one pre-ordered.
Re: PlayStation Users to Be Considered 'Part of the Xbox Community', Says Xbox Boss
Not worth the news. Just his usual PR bs.
Re: My Hero Academia's Battle Royale Has Been Downloaded Over 7 Million Times
@NotSoCryptic thanks for the reply but can’t read another essay. Lol
Re: My Hero Academia's Battle Royale Has Been Downloaded Over 7 Million Times
@NotSoCryptic Well 7 million downloads is a lot, considering their low-key release, without being reviewed by any well known gaming and media websites. I don't normally check Steam as I am not PC gamer, but looking just now, it has a lot of user comments which in a way they do engage, not just download. Yes, the IP is well-loved and known. But a lot of people didn't even know its release. More importantly, why are you so worried about its success? Download numbers may not reflect its longevity (given it only has one mode at the moment). But why can't we just enjoy why it lasts?
Re: My Hero Academia's Battle Royale Has Been Downloaded Over 7 Million Times
@NotSoCryptic It is a free game. Who bought 100,000 copies?
Re: My Hero Academia's Battle Royale Has Been Downloaded Over 7 Million Times
@Markatron84 It is surprisingly a solid game.
Re: Sony Reveals iSIZE Acquisition, Not a Games Developer
@AverageGamer Ah I see. But I mean they could use the same technology. Don't see why they would only limit tech to some products.
Re: Sony Reveals iSIZE Acquisition, Not a Games Developer
Come on, they own Crunchyroll, the biggest anime streaming service. Sony doesn’t just operate PlayStation. Crunchy has 11 millions paid sub and much more are on free ad plan. Not bad for a niche streaming and the popularity of anime is on the rise too.
Re: Destiny 2 Fans Demand Refunds for Next DLC After Bungie Layoffs
Pretentious people are the most disgusting.
Re: Ghost of Tsushima Movie Making Progress as Director Heaps Praise on the Game
It has everything- story, combat, musical score and visuals. Even multiplayer component was great. Bogging down the score due to a few bad side quests was inappropriate. It should score higher. I guess every open world game has some or more rubbish side quests to pad out.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for November 2023 Announced
Hopefully, I will have some fun with Dragonball breakers and Aliens. My Hero Ultra Rumble by Namco is fun although there are a few Gacha elements. These are fun quick short burst games.
Re: New PS5 Slim Adverts Reveal Bundle with a Free Game
So how is this related to the internet connection required for pairing as this is the disc version?
Re: The Finals Opted for AI Voices Because 'It Gets Us Far Enough in Terms of Quality'
@Badger_Badgerski No standard game sold above 70. Fine with your limit. Also, try to understand when the producers try to keep the cost down with available means, especially in a small game like above where they only talk a few lines.
Re: The Finals Opted for AI Voices Because 'It Gets Us Far Enough in Terms of Quality'
@Badger_Badgerski Well it is how the business work. It is easy to say when they are successful and making money. But there are also many companies which went out of business and bleeding money. I guess in a way it is similar to betting. Companies got most of the money as they are the one who risk and invest loads of money. They are the one who lost money if it didn’t do very well. They are not charity.
I am generally talking about all things- people who would like to get writer/ actors paid more should also expect that cost will be eventually spread to themselves.
Of note, the game price was cheaper compared to 90s, if you count the inflation. I don’t mean I want to pay more as the salary also mostly stay the same (for most professions at least in the UK). But everything else price has gone up.
Re: Sony's New PS5 Earbuds and Headset Get Release Dates, Pre-Order Details
@IronMike Cliche argument. And cliche explanation- the US price doesn’t include tax and no state in the US tax 20% like in the U.K. EU countries also tax a lot. But generally things also a bit cheaper in America and Asia. I am not sure about the reason they price earbud differently but it is common with tech products. Just wish U.K. cut some tax rate for ordinary people.
Re: The Finals Opted for AI Voices Because 'It Gets Us Far Enough in Terms of Quality'
The righteous people want more people to get paid, but want the game price stays at the same 60$ and digital at 35$ forever. Voice actors are no longer cheap.
Re: It Sounds Like PS5 Is Handily Outselling Its New-Gen Rival in France
I mean Xbox has been having barren years since the latter years of Xbox One until now (when they have big AAA games back to back). Most people are probably locked into PS accounts from PS4 era. I predict the GP subscription number will go down next year, now that MS 1$/£ promo ended. I subscribed for 3 years but didn't use it much and it expired this month and did not renew.
Re: Alan Wake 2 (PS5) - A Nightmare We Never Want to Wake Up From
I probably won't buy it as I usually don't finish horror game, never play Alan Wake 1 and the Remedy games come to PS plus. But I personally don't think digital only is a problem. Game preservation claims only concerns a very minority but very loud voice (still it is rubbish as a disc would only last so long). The only benefit I can see is you can trade-in/sell. I am also not sure why Remedy skipped physical, now that they are owned by Epic. The budget isn't an issue. Maybe they can sell more (as one can't buy used discs) and save some money by not putting on discs.
Re: Well-Received Souls-Like Lords of the Fallen Tops 1 Million Sales
Saw the news yesterday that their stock has fallen due to this not selling well. Which one is true? One million sale for this type of game is good.
Re: PlayStation Allegedly Under Pressure to Make Major Gaming Acquisitions
@UltimateOtaku91 Aiming is the word. Whether they can actually do is another matter. The thing is MS with all their financial might can only release 3-4 first party exclusives since next gen launch (yeah that’s about 3 years now)
Re: PlayStation Allegedly Under Pressure to Make Major Gaming Acquisitions
@MagisterMagi Well a lot of Konami IPs go beyond Japanese markets and are well known in the rest of the world. But currently, their IPs aren't properly used.
Re: PlayStation Allegedly Under Pressure to Make Major Gaming Acquisitions
Buying Japanese studios like Konami (and maybe Square Enix) would be sensible. Konami has loads of great IPs and the cost would also be reasonable.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Buying a PS5 'Slim'?
@IOI well defend? I mean I have standing like this for 2 years with no problem with heating. I couldn’t just bother to install the stand. The stand itself is so low, I am not sure how it would helps with ventilation. That’s what I thought and I am so shocked someone would accuse and judge based on this. Disappointing!