After a quick Google scan, Spotify generally pays $0.003 - 0.005 per play (on average) supposedly.
So therefore to make the $7,500 offered, the "exposure" will need to generate at least 2.5 million extra plays on streaming services at the lowest payment level.
The song has around 26.2 million plays there alone.
Assuming GTA 6 does similar figures to the alleged 200 million sold according to Take Two, then that same exposure would be worth 600K.
I'm not saying Martin can or should get that amount, but I can understand why he is p***ed off at the exceptionally low-ball offer for a song that has lasting appeal and is relatively well-known.
At least two people have stated that they don't think he is a pedo in this comment section, but he was wrong in what he did, despite him admitting to inappropriate conduct with a minor... Which as far as I know, sees the onus on the adult in all situations of this ilk..
That in one form or another is defending him, whether meant or otherwise.
You can disagree, just as others can. I stand by what I said and you can scream into the void as much as you like but my opinion won't change, as yours will not.
As for the social media and innocent til proven guilty points.
Firstly, I don't sit on social media, as I can't be arsed at nearly 49 years old to read the manure that is posted on X and the like. and secondly, until reading his own words, I never made a judgement call either way, as I agree that people should not jump to conclusions unless evidence/factual statements are made, because I don't take internet words as the gospel truth, unless the person in question makes a statement, which in this case, he did.
Next week John explains how to pronounce Gymnasium and Ginger or better still moves on to "H" and explains "hyperbole"
I did look at this and wonder why, but then I have the advantage/disadvantage of being English, so I can appreciate some may not have been saying it correctly, not that it massively matters.
Amuses me, seeing game companies feeding off culture wars like vampires.
Create a little unnecessary controversy, which is now extremely easy to do, because - the internet is what it is...
Let it blow up, enjoy the period of conjecture and extra free exposure, and then go and roll back the "specific issue causing thing" in the game to what was originally intended in the first place, and to huge fanfare.
I don't particularly have a horse in this race, but the number of people being played is quite impressive.
I'd assume the drip feed of older titles will continue, I mean if they are making money, why would they stop?
The hardest part was judging how their fanbase would react, but now it's been done, I don't see them holding back so much, although I'd be surprised to see Xbox staples such as Halo, Gears and Forza arrive anytime soon.
It will be interesting to see where they go from here.
Managed to "upgrade" the PS Collection version via my phone on Saturday, however, Sony could do with streamlining its licensing and how this works moving forward, amid the minor chaos of Friday's release/update and the lack of clear information.
Plus, it's not the first time, mistakes have been made on the store.
I was happy to wait personally, to see what was going on, but I can imagine a few annoyed souls out there, who paid when they didn't need to, won't be so pleased..
They should release some tit tape game merchandise, as the stuff used for that first version of the costume and others in general must be the strongest on Earth, when she's spinning, cartwheeling and pirouetting during a fight..
I was looking at a couple of articles about their old arcade games and Repka Silomer' (The Turnip Strength Tester) looks about as stereotypical as it could ever have been from the 80's...
Looking forward to Lada Racing 2025 and the "No American" mission on their COD clone. plus culling oil company execs in Hitman: Windows Edition.
@DaniPooo - I dunno, maybe familiarity grows contempt, having played Skyrim on PC, 360, PS4 and PS5 for so long.
My idea of innovation isn't necessarily about re-inventing the wheel, which I probably could have communicated better, I just want some tangible improvements and new gameplay additions that fit.
I don't particularly want TES6 to be Baldur's Gate 3 or Elden Ring, just a better Elder Scrolls title and some more variety in the gameplay itself, although how that would work, is another conversation.
And I do concur regarding proven formulas and keeping fans happy. It's probably why I've been playing Streetfighter in its various guises since the early 90's, albeit its not the greatest comparison.
Loved Oblivion and Skyrim but they are very much games of their time. That Bethesda style feels very stale by modern RPG standards, which has a lot to do with why Starfield didn't do anything for me, despite my hope at the time.
We've known for years the engine needs updating or changing, but I do wonder if they have the confidence or even the ability to change the gameplay loop into something that at least feels fresher and modernised, rather than just Skyrim at a higher resolution and framerate, which I can already do with mods if need be.
@BeerIsAwesome - Yeah I find it hilarious that the "front of shop" guy is the hero or baddie, depending on how the corporate entity is doing or decisions that are being made above his head by the board and shareholders.
PushSquare writing about Sony offering adults a financial service that could have further benefits if they are in the PlayStation eco-system is relevant enough news to someone, even if not to you or me and it featured a link to the legal T&Cs.
The ongoing urge of readers to sweep anything that has a potential or associated real-life risk, or just simply isn't agreeable completely off the site, baffles me.
if I wanted to be mollycoddled, I'd ask... or pay for it...
Not really bothered for this game personally, I'm more interested in seeing how this affects Ubisoft's AAAA (is that enough?) effort, if at all and the corporate spin given if numbers plummet.
Sony needs to do a fair bit to make a dent outside the console market, I don't know whether they can, considering the competition already there.
And having stuck my head in a Vision Pro last week, It's only going to get tougher as the tech moves on. As cynical as I am about anything Apple, that was an impressive device (albeit the price can do one!)
Highly recommended to anyone who likes a roguelike.
One of those easy-to-understand, hard-to-master titles and does a good job of explaining enough to the player, without discouraging trial and error or holding your hand.
I also love how it rewards the player for trying different strategies and generally improving at the game. In that regard, it has a very strong Slay The Spire vibe, which is no bad thing.
And for £12.99, it's a steal for the hundreds of hours I'm probably gonna put into it.
I'm in the meh boat to be honest... Barring genre, which at least would potentially offer the odd surprise title or game I missed to pique my interest, I don't think there is a measurement demographic that would help me personally.
My game choices stem from media coverage (written/video), friend recommendations and generally looking into genres I enjoy.
Prime example is Balatro. I've been watching this for a while via youtube and picked it up yesterday. I love it, its a great little game, but I'd be very surprised if it ever topped any sort of chart as indicated in the article.
Although you could argue that there should be more effort made, it's a relatively closed subject matter compared to the SEO challenges I face in the gambling industry for instance, which by default, is a daily scramble for attention due to the hundreds of options available.
With a limited amount of players in this particular game, they could easily push up the SERP with a day or two's effort, so you have to wonder whether they are relying on good old word of mouth alone, or simply don't see the viability of making a bit more effort, as you either "are" or "are not" a playstation player.
Either way, it is a little strange to not capitalise on any option that is available to push the product and SEO is one such medium that can garner success.
So, this is dismissed instantly as attention-seeking lies.... Or seen as warranted due to the game's history....
Right-o
As someone whose scepticism has grown exponentially in the 48 years on this planet, even I have to doff my tinfoil hat in appreciation of the ridiculous bitterness aimed at a f****ng videogame and those associated with it.
Other than the delays, I had not heard much prior and as nice as the video looked, it just feels like Port Royale with Ubisoft's tried and hated busy work for online play.
Will give the beta a go, to see for myself properly, but I'm not exactly "chomping at the bit".
Also be interesting to see what happens to the rumoured Sea Of Thieves release, if this either does well or tanks accordingly.
I love the fact that despite shutting down, pleading poverty and blaming others for their shoddy communication and outright disingenuous gameplay clips, they are also apparently creating a new game too... Coz of course they are.
And so the cycle will continue..
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see them prove they can create an ambitious (and good) game, as that's never a bad thing for players, but at this moment, with their history of leaving games to die, I doubt it...
I remember the amount of shovelware that was available on cassette back on the Commodore 64, but at least back then you could get 4 (Crappy) games for £1.99
It's funny how things change. If you told 1980's me, that there would be well over 50 games a week coming out in 2024, I'd be hugely excited.
Yet modern me, now realises my back catalogue will likely die with me...
A year+ away and Rockstar has got all the targeted demographics beating their advertising drum for them via controversies (alleged or otherwise) and arguments across social platforms and more...
Fair play, almost like they have done similar before.
@Loamy Hope they won't be playing on them new-fangled flat-screen TV's, the Daily Mail readers will be getting their pitchforks ready, bloody layabouts!
I would understand this argument, if important things such as electricity, gas (both high due to poor UK government pricing controls) and other bills were targeted here, but not for what is in essence a luxury, non essential product.
I concur that digital pricing is ridiculous and something needs to change, but this argument makes little sense and is weak at best.
Shame this wasn't a thing when I was a teen, I could have gotten a legal team Involved to get me a cheaper NeoGeo and games, but no back then I just sucked it up and either saved pocket money or I dunno, just realised I cannot have everything I want..
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Re: 80s Synthpop Stars Heaven 17 Resist the Temptation of PS5's GTA 6
After a quick Google scan, Spotify generally pays $0.003 - 0.005 per play (on average) supposedly.
So therefore to make the $7,500 offered, the "exposure" will need to generate at least 2.5 million extra plays on streaming services at the lowest payment level.
The song has around 26.2 million plays there alone.
Assuming GTA 6 does similar figures to the alleged 200 million sold according to Take Two, then that same exposure would be worth 600K.
I'm not saying Martin can or should get that amount, but I can understand why he is p***ed off at the exceptionally low-ball offer for a song that has lasting appeal and is relatively well-known.
Re: Never Has a Game Looked So Good Yet So Jank as PS5's Neo Berlin 2087
I'm weirdly interested...
Will at least keep an eye on it from afar
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Re: Post-Apocalyptic Action RPG Chernobylite 2 Goes Open World in 2025
If you stay too long in the exclusion zone, chernobylfalloff!
Re: A Quiet Place: The Road Ahead Wants to Make Some Noise for 17th October Release
Looking forward to the quick time event, where you have to button mash to suppress a noisy fart.
Re: Tiebreak Aims to Topple TopSpin 2K25 with a Huge Licensed Roster on PS5, PS4
@BearsEatBeets Yeah its Big Ant who did AO Tennis.
Re: Shadows of the Damned Remaster Out This Halloween, Only £20 / $25
Nice and a decent price too..
A suitably off-kilter trailer too..
Re: Almost 2,000 Awesome PS5, PS4 Games Discounted on PS Store
@Intr1n5ic - Nice one!! Cheers!
Re: Dr Disrespect Admits Messages to Minor 'Leaned Too Much in the Direction' of Impropriety
@lifegirl - I'll make this relatively brief...
At least two people have stated that they don't think he is a pedo in this comment section, but he was wrong in what he did, despite him admitting to inappropriate conduct with a minor... Which as far as I know, sees the onus on the adult in all situations of this ilk..
That in one form or another is defending him, whether meant or otherwise.
You can disagree, just as others can. I stand by what I said and you can scream into the void as much as you like but my opinion won't change, as yours will not.
As for the social media and innocent til proven guilty points.
Firstly, I don't sit on social media, as I can't be arsed at nearly 49 years old to read the manure that is posted on X and the like. and secondly, until reading his own words, I never made a judgement call either way, as I agree that people should not jump to conclusions unless evidence/factual statements are made, because I don't take internet words as the gospel truth, unless the person in question makes a statement, which in this case, he did.
Anyway, good day.
Re: Dr Disrespect Admits Messages to Minor 'Leaned Too Much in the Direction' of Impropriety
F**k me, I see the defenders are out in force.
Re: Fans Fight for Shenmue 4, Rent Billboard in New York's Time Square
As someone who bought the first two when originally released, I have to say that the ship had sailed a long while ago for me.
Was great at the time and it still holds a special place in my heart but times changed and it didn't, plus the likes of Yakuza usurped it too.
Considering how stunted the Dreamcast was in terms of sales, 1.2 million copies of the original was pretty good by all accounts.
Re: PS Store Adds Another 1,500 Big PS5, PS4 Deals for Summer Game Fest
@get2sammyb your Summer Game Fest link is broken.. just so ya know 👍
Will check out the sale update.. although absolutely swimming in back catalogue goodness at the moment 😁
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Quietly Adds Uncensored New Costumes in Controversy Aftermath
Shift Up have had their knockers over the past few weeks and now their player base does too.
Re: Random: DOOM Co-Creator John Romero Reveals Hellish Way 'Gib' Is Properly Pronounced
Next week John explains how to pronounce Gymnasium and Ginger or better still moves on to "H" and explains "hyperbole"
I did look at this and wonder why, but then I have the advantage/disadvantage of being English, so I can appreciate some may not have been saying it correctly, not that it massively matters.
Re: Millennials Must Gather Caring Energy in Care Bears: To the Rescue on PS5
Hope I can play as Sir Mix alot...
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Reveal Trailer Is Already the Most Disliked in Series History
Oh look, yet another "controversy"...
Honestly, 40+ years of gaming and I don't think I have ever seen the overall gaming community become so whiney.
Just hope the Japanese female character doesn't have any clothing changed or we will be off again...
Re: Another 2,000 PS5, PS4 Games Discounted in Epic Sale
@Onearmbandit - Its a little rough around the edges and makes The Forest look extremely easy, but for that price, its worth a go!
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Dev Thanks Fans for 'Passion' Following Censorship Controversy
Amuses me, seeing game companies feeding off culture wars like vampires.
Create a little unnecessary controversy, which is now extremely easy to do, because - the internet is what it is...
Let it blow up, enjoy the period of conjecture and extra free exposure, and then go and roll back the "specific issue causing thing" in the game to what was originally intended in the first place, and to huge fanfare.
I don't particularly have a horse in this race, but the number of people being played is quite impressive.
Re: Talking Point: What's Next for Xbox Games on PS5, PS4?
I'd assume the drip feed of older titles will continue, I mean if they are making money, why would they stop?
The hardest part was judging how their fanbase would react, but now it's been done, I don't see them holding back so much, although I'd be surprised to see Xbox staples such as Halo, Gears and Forza arrive anytime soon.
It will be interesting to see where they go from here.
Re: Stellar Blade Dev Is Plotting Boss Rush Mode for PS5 Smash Hit
This is refreshing.. a thread about the actual gameplay
Re: Fallout 4 PS5 Now Available for PS Plus Collection Owners
Managed to "upgrade" the PS Collection version via my phone on Saturday, however, Sony could do with streamlining its licensing and how this works moving forward, amid the minor chaos of Friday's release/update and the lack of clear information.
Plus, it's not the first time, mistakes have been made on the store.
I was happy to wait personally, to see what was going on, but I can imagine a few annoyed souls out there, who paid when they didn't need to, won't be so pleased..
Re: Stellar Blade PS5 Fans Irate Over Alleged Censorship
They should release some tit tape game merchandise, as the stuff used for that first version of the costume and others in general must be the strongest on Earth, when she's spinning, cartwheeling and pirouetting during a fight..
Re: $130 Version of Star Wars Outlaws Under Fire as Ubisoft Prices Increase
Can't say I'm that surprised.. Ubisoft know they have a cash cow thanks to the Star Wars license alone and will do their utmost to milk it dry..
As fortunate as I am to afford this hobby/habit, dropping a ton plus on an Ubisoft or infact any videogame can get in the bin.
Re: Random: Lara Croft Tops Mario as the Most Iconic Video Game Character of All Time, Apparently
Very weird list... It's all I've got..
Re: Random: Vladimir Putin Considers Creation of Russian Gaming Console
I was looking at a couple of articles about their old arcade games and Repka Silomer' (The Turnip Strength Tester) looks about as stereotypical as it could ever have been from the 80's...
Looking forward to Lada Racing 2025 and the "No American" mission on their COD clone. plus culling oil company execs in Hitman: Windows Edition.
Re: PS Plus Premium's Classic Catalogue Seemingly Adding Star Wars Rebel Assault 2 Next Month
May as well just release a Mega CD on rails shooter collection at this rate...
Bit of Sewer Shark and Cobra Command would dust off some old memories..
Re: Preview: Stellar Blade Is the PS5 Exclusive Enthusiasts Have Been Praying For
@CaptD - Nice Sorry! reference there...
Re: The Elder Scrolls Celebrates 30th Anniversary, Gives a Small Update on TES 6
@DaniPooo - I dunno, maybe familiarity grows contempt, having played Skyrim on PC, 360, PS4 and PS5 for so long.
My idea of innovation isn't necessarily about re-inventing the wheel, which I probably could have communicated better, I just want some tangible improvements and new gameplay additions that fit.
I don't particularly want TES6 to be Baldur's Gate 3 or Elden Ring, just a better Elder Scrolls title and some more variety in the gameplay itself, although how that would work, is another conversation.
And I do concur regarding proven formulas and keeping fans happy. It's probably why I've been playing Streetfighter in its various guises since the early 90's, albeit its not the greatest comparison.
Re: The Elder Scrolls Celebrates 30th Anniversary, Gives a Small Update on TES 6
Loved Oblivion and Skyrim but they are very much games of their time. That Bethesda style feels very stale by modern RPG standards, which has a lot to do with why Starfield didn't do anything for me, despite my hope at the time.
We've known for years the engine needs updating or changing, but I do wonder if they have the confidence or even the ability to change the gameplay loop into something that at least feels fresher and modernised, rather than just Skyrim at a higher resolution and framerate, which I can already do with mods if need be.
I hope so, but won't be holding my breath!
Re: Celebrate Jim Ryan's Legacy with Iconic Digital Bobblehead
@BeerIsAwesome - Yeah I find it hilarious that the "front of shop" guy is the hero or baddie, depending on how the corporate entity is doing or decisions that are being made above his head by the board and shareholders.
Re: Legendary PlayStation First-Party Architect Connie Booth Joins EA
Every time I read Connie Booth, I wonder why the actress from Fawlty Towers is in the gaming industry. But that's just my age I guess... 😁
Re: Unlock a Free 12 Months of PS Plus Premium with PlayStation's Visa Credit Card
Not for me, but also no issue with the post.
PushSquare writing about Sony offering adults a financial service that could have further benefits if they are in the PlayStation eco-system is relevant enough news to someone, even if not to you or me and it featured a link to the legal T&Cs.
The ongoing urge of readers to sweep anything that has a potential or associated real-life risk, or just simply isn't agreeable completely off the site, baffles me.
if I wanted to be mollycoddled, I'd ask... or pay for it...
Re: Smooth Sailing for Xbox Exclusive Sea of Thieves As It Tops PS5 Pre-Order Charts
Not really bothered for this game personally, I'm more interested in seeing how this affects Ubisoft's AAAA (is that enough?) effort, if at all and the corporate spin given if numbers plummet.
Re: PS Plus Essential Game for March 2024 Leaked
Awesome, might finally stop smashing Balatro..
Re: Sea of Thieves Will Be the First PlayStation Game in Rare's 39-Year History
Final nail in the coffin for Skull and Bones I would imagine...
Re: Sony Testing PSVR2 Compatibility on PC, Aiming for This Year
Sony needs to do a fair bit to make a dent outside the console market, I don't know whether they can, considering the competition already there.
And having stuck my head in a Vision Pro last week, It's only going to get tougher as the tech moves on. As cynical as I am about anything Apple, that was an impressive device (albeit the price can do one!)
Re: Mini Review: Balatro (PS5) - Roguelike Poker Ain't No Joker
Highly recommended to anyone who likes a roguelike.
One of those easy-to-understand, hard-to-master titles and does a good job of explaining enough to the player, without discouraging trial and error or holding your hand.
I also love how it rewards the player for trying different strategies and generally improving at the game. In that regard, it has a very strong Slay The Spire vibe, which is no bad thing.
And for £12.99, it's a steal for the hundreds of hours I'm probably gonna put into it.
Re: Talking Point: Should Sony Be More Transparent About PS5, PS4's Most Played Games?
I'm in the meh boat to be honest... Barring genre, which at least would potentially offer the odd surprise title or game I missed to pique my interest, I don't think there is a measurement demographic that would help me personally.
My game choices stem from media coverage (written/video), friend recommendations and generally looking into genres I enjoy.
Prime example is Balatro. I've been watching this for a while via youtube and picked it up yesterday. I love it, its a great little game, but I'd be very surprised if it ever topped any sort of chart as indicated in the article.
Re: PS5, PS4 Is Losing the SEO War Against Its Rivals
Although you could argue that there should be more effort made, it's a relatively closed subject matter compared to the SEO challenges I face in the gambling industry for instance, which by default, is a daily scramble for attention due to the hundreds of options available.
With a limited amount of players in this particular game, they could easily push up the SERP with a day or two's effort, so you have to wonder whether they are relying on good old word of mouth alone, or simply don't see the viability of making a bit more effort, as you either "are" or "are not" a playstation player.
Either way, it is a little strange to not capitalise on any option that is available to push the product and SEO is one such medium that can garner success.
Re: Looks Like This Is the New Lara Croft in PS5's Next Tomb Raider
I love a bit of hand-wringing in the morning...🍿🍿🍿
Re: Abusive Last of Us 2 Fans Allegedly Levelled Death Threats at Abby Actor's Newborn Son
So, this is dismissed instantly as attention-seeking lies....
Or seen as warranted due to the game's history....
Right-o
As someone whose scepticism has grown exponentially in the 48 years on this planet, even I have to doff my tinfoil hat in appreciation of the ridiculous bitterness aimed at a f****ng videogame and those associated with it.
Re: Ubisoft Is Committing to a Full Year of Skull and Bones Content
Other than the delays, I had not heard much prior and as nice as the video looked, it just feels like Port Royale with Ubisoft's tried and hated busy work for online play.
Will give the beta a go, to see for myself properly, but I'm not exactly "chomping at the bit".
Also be interesting to see what happens to the rumoured Sea Of Thieves release, if this either does well or tanks accordingly.
Re: Tekken 8 (PS5) - Next-Gen Tekken Is a Modern Fighting Game Masterclass
Man, mid-90's teenage me would be all over the current Tekken and Street Fighter resurgence.
Shame I cant get the same resurgence with my reactions and hand/eye co-ordination
Anyhoo.. Enjoy people, sounds like a great game!
Re: The Day Before Dev Resurfaces, Blames Failure on 'Gold Rush' of Negative Takes
I love the fact that despite shutting down, pleading poverty and blaming others for their shoddy communication and outright disingenuous gameplay clips, they are also apparently creating a new game too... Coz of course they are.
And so the cycle will continue..
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see them prove they can create an ambitious (and good) game, as that's never a bad thing for players, but at this moment, with their history of leaving games to die, I doubt it...
Re: New Star GP Blends Retro Style, Arcade Driving, and Sim Elements in Unique F1 Racer
Hints of Virtua Racing, Continental Circus, Super Monaco GP and Vroom...
Count me extremely interested.. 🤔
Re: Publishing Exec Claims 'There Are Too Many Games'
I remember the amount of shovelware that was available on cassette back on the Commodore 64, but at least back then you could get 4 (Crappy) games for £1.99
It's funny how things change. If you told 1980's me, that there would be well over 50 games a week coming out in 2024, I'd be hugely excited.
Yet modern me, now realises my back catalogue will likely die with me...
Less is more and all that...
Re: GTA 5's Michael Voice Actor a Big Fan of GTA 6 Protagonist: 'Lucia's Hard, Man'
A year+ away and Rockstar has got all the targeted demographics beating their advertising drum for them via controversies (alleged or otherwise) and arguments across social platforms and more...
Fair play, almost like they have done similar before.
Re: Pornhub Reveals 2023's Most Popular Video Game Characters
I'm more impressed that there are that many PS5 user's that have jumped through the silly hoops to access the web browser 😳
Re: Random: Yorkshire Tea Is Brewing Up a Custom PS5 Controller for Some Reason
Something that Youtuber, The Spiffing Brit would appreciate 🤣
Re: Reaction: You Really Shouldn't Be Surprised Kids Want PS5, PS4 Game Currencies for Xmas
@Loamy Hope they won't be playing on them new-fangled flat-screen TV's, the Daily Mail readers will be getting their pitchforks ready, bloody layabouts!
Re: Court Rules £5 Billion Lawsuit Against Sony Can Go Ahead, Following Years of 'Excessive' PS Store Prices
"it's costing millions who can't afford it"
I would understand this argument, if important things such as electricity, gas (both high due to poor UK government pricing controls) and other bills were targeted here, but not for what is in essence a luxury, non essential product.
I concur that digital pricing is ridiculous and something needs to change, but this argument makes little sense and is weak at best.
Shame this wasn't a thing when I was a teen, I could have gotten a legal team Involved to get me a cheaper NeoGeo and games, but no back then I just sucked it up and either saved pocket money or I dunno, just realised I cannot have everything I want..