I liked Outlaws (even though it wasn't close to being neither the best SW game or the best Ubi open world) but this is hardly surprising, given how badly it reportedly sold
I've been subscribed non-stop since the PS3 days (but not the very beginning iirc). Some things have changed for the worse over the years (price and the availability of deals, Plus being required for online play, etc) but overall the service got better. I'm subscribed to Premium because I do enjoy an occasional retro game (and some PSVR2 games being included was nice too) but I think for most people Extra is the best tier right now.
I didn't think the trailer looked very good in the last SoP but then I heard some things about it from the previews and apparently it's very fun. Looking forward to learning more.
@tangyzesty @Jacko11 Ok I got misunderstood here and you're making me sound like a bad guy. I'm not saying I need a discount on CO - I'll buy it anyway, when it's its turn (playing some other games first). However, since I'm already planning on getting it, I wouldn't say no to a deal. All I'm saying is I'm less interested in discounts on games I wasn't planning on getting, I guess.
@RBMango Yeah I wouldn't bet on Tokon making an appearance here either, because this seems like a showcase for ASW as a publisher, which they aren't for the Marvel game. I also don't think Daisuke's game is Guilty Gear unless it's a spin-off in a different genre.
I sure hope the next Playstation does not run on Windows.
As for Xbox, this has to mean it will be more expensive than traditional consoles - I don't think MS can afford to sell them at a loss (like they did with Xboxes) if they're not guaranteed to get any revenue from the games.
I thought this looked fun in the presentations and I'll be willing to give it a shot on PS+. Just need to get a team cause I don't think I wanna play it with random people
@nomither6 I didn’t buy it myself because I figured in my limited time there would be few occasions I’d want to launch it over Guilty Gear but I played the beta and thought it was good
@slips666 same, I haven't played the DLC yet. Thanks for reminding me actually. My main problem was that the base difficulty was very easy most of the time, so it didn't really require you to do anything advanced in the combat.
Man, this game is such a weird case even within the genre. Very popular in the competitive circuits - no doubt thanks to the promise of massive prize pools. Completely failed to resonate with the more casual players though - likely in part because they saw it as this highly competitive game. Ronaldo and Salvatore are officially the 2 least popular characters too.
I couldn't watch live because I'm at a festival. After it aired I saw a bunch of tweets about it being "another disappointing SoP", "2/10", "terrible" etc. Then I watched it and was like "man, do gamers even like games anymore? all of these look great". And yeah, I get that people want more news from Sony studios but does it really matter that much who makes the game?
That being said, the PS Studios/ArcSys Marvel game is one of the most hype and most important announcements of the decade to me.
@47Levi Maybe it's because I don't care about lore being coherent in fighting games all that much Character looks good though. It's funny how they showed the trailer last minute because it was "spoilers for the anime" and they waited until the finale, but all it actually contains is one bit that was revealed several episodes ago. If anything, maybe it was because people would be disappointed that the transformation from the super was not in it
@nomither6 Funnily enough, the competitive players seem to think it's very good right now and possibly the best game in that regard since MK9 - but that's a small fraction of MK's audience
This isn't unusual for an NRS game. It's about as much as MK11 got.
Sure, it's way less than other games in the genre but I believe they themselves said their competition is not Tekken and Street Fighter, it's Call of Duty. MK's always had a different target audience than most fighting games.
Just saying this is hardly unexpected at this point.
@Fighting_Game_Loser I agree - it says more about the genre than the game itself - it's just very niche apart from 3-4 franchises (Guilty Gear being the latest to get somewhat bigger but still nowhere near SF, MK and Tekken). They're clearly trying to brute force their way into that group by throwing money at it and so far it's not really working, but it doesn't mean the game's not good. And yes, I do think Ronaldo's inclusion might've had the opposite effect to what they intended, if any.
@johncalmc I agree with this. I thought starting the season with revealing who Abby's group is and what their intentions are was detrimental to the flow of the narrative. Now, I obviously knew this anyway but I think the game handled this great, with Abby being visibly surprised when she realized she was saved by Joel, and then the same happening at the lodge, and the player not yet knowing what it was about. I also don't see how Dina being there in person instead of Tommy benefits the story but maybe I have to wait and see. I'm not usually too hard against adaptations deviating from the source material but I'm sceptical about these changes.
@djlard For one, it would remove a DLC character that didn't have a version before this patch - there are many universal changes which would mean she'd have to be reworked to fit in with the old version. But also while there's a large (and understandably so) opposition to the new patch among the high level and competitive players, there's also a lot of players on all levels that may not care as much about balance but taking away the new options that were just given to them wouldn't be the right move. Updating evolving games is tricky and sometimes it's a miss (and it's not just competitive games - Helldivers 2 went through this as well) but entirely reverting a patch is usually not the way unless it literally breaks the game for everyone.
I think what happened with Tekken is... there's always a lot of talk about "player expression" in fighting games, often in the context that modern games lack it compared to older ones. I think the Tekken team wanted to "increase player expression" by giving characters new ways to link strings, extend combos, generally more options in multiple situations - which sounds good and fun in theory, until you realise this only applies to one player at a time, while the other one's options become even more limited for an even longer time. It also severely overshadowed the improvements to defence, which the community asked for and which do exist in this patch - they just don't matter if the offence became even more stronger.
A lot of people will want to play these games for the first time after watching season 2 of the TV show and this is a good way to get them. I'm obviously not buying since I already own both but I don't see a problem here.
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare to be fair there's a lot of games that are smaller on PS5 than they are on PS4 despite having higher quality assets etc... it's just that a lot of them also got bigger in general
@Jrs1 Both others and his own, I believe. Either way, this was the first time I heard about him. Obviously it turns out he's signed to a label owned by the same people who own SNK.
Oh, btw - I'm not worried about the game's future. Even if this is bad (I did not get a chance to play yet so I don't have a strong opinion), there will be more patches for several years to come.
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Re: Sony Fighter Marvel Tokon Gets In-Depth Gameplay Video, Loads of New PS5 Footage
I never really played tag fighters but I'll definitely be trying this one. Looks fantastic.
Re: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 Patch 1.4.0 Brings Battle Retry, Better UI, Teases 'More to Come'
Very good QoL changes. I'm still in Act 1 so I expect I have quite a bit to go and especially the Battle Retry will be very welcome.
Re: Star Wars Outlaws Sequel Reportedly Cancelled, Will Stay in a Galaxy Far, Far Away
I liked Outlaws (even though it wasn't close to being neither the best SW game or the best Ubi open world) but this is hardly surprising, given how badly it reportedly sold
Re: Marvel Tokon Could Have Up to 35 Characters, Fans Hypothesise
35 characters... sure, by the time they stop releasing DLC
My bet is around 20 at launch.
Really excited for this, game looks incredible.
@Brundleflies21 I think Marvel would probably have to okay it too in this case.
Re: 'Increasingly Selective Consumers' to Blame for Underperformance of Blades of Fire
I don't think I remember hearing anything about this game...
Re: Rumour: New Guilty Gear Game Gets Cancelled
@Fizza yeah this just sounds made up lol
Re: Twisted Metal Shapes Up for Another Season of Sublimely Stupid Television
I enjoyed the first season. Will watch when it comes to something I'm subscribed to (first Season went to HBO Max over here iirc)
Re: Blackpink's Lisa Is the New Global Face of PlayStation
I had to ask my younger friends who this was but it seems like a good pick for Sony, idk
Re: Poll: 15 Years of PS Plus - What Do You Think of Sony's Subscription Service?
I've been subscribed non-stop since the PS3 days (but not the very beginning iirc).
Some things have changed for the worse over the years (price and the availability of deals, Plus being required for online play, etc) but overall the service got better.
I'm subscribed to Premium because I do enjoy an occasional retro game (and some PSVR2 games being included was nice too) but I think for most people Extra is the best tier right now.
Re: Ghost of Yotei's Pricey $250 PS5 Collector's Edition Is for the Hardcore Fans Only
I'll probably skip this CE but mostly because I'm running out of space to display the collectibles 😅
Re: Discount Codes Are Being Sent Out to PS Plus Members
No Direct in my country so I'm not expecting anything
Re: Preview: Don't Sleep on Capcom's Pragmata, the Most Inventive PS5 Shooter in Years
I didn't think the trailer looked very good in the last SoP but then I heard some things about it from the previews and apparently it's very fun. Looking forward to learning more.
Re: PlayStation Hypes Up Exclusive PS Plus Discounts on PS Store This Weekend
@tangyzesty @Jacko11
Ok I got misunderstood here and you're making me sound like a bad guy.
I'm not saying I need a discount on CO - I'll buy it anyway, when it's its turn (playing some other games first). However, since I'm already planning on getting it, I wouldn't say no to a deal.
All I'm saying is I'm less interested in discounts on games I wasn't planning on getting, I guess.
Re: PlayStation Hypes Up Exclusive PS Plus Discounts on PS Store This Weekend
@DonkeyFantasy I agree and I will as soon as I finish the game I'm currently playing. However, if a discount appears in the meantime, I won't complain
Re: PlayStation Hypes Up Exclusive PS Plus Discounts on PS Store This Weekend
I hope there's a discount for either Indiana Jones or Clair Obscur but I feel like they would've mentioned that
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Update 1.0.6 Out Tomorrow on PS5, Full Patch Notes Revealed
@Uromastryx I did get the plat but it literally took a whole day of leaving the game on and checking every hour or so if I can change the season yet
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Update 1.0.6 Out Tomorrow on PS5, Full Patch Notes Revealed
What they need to add is a way to fast-forward time at least slightly
Re: Marvel Tokon and 'Completely New Titles' to Star in Surprise Arc System Works Showcase
The wording of a more recent tweet makes me think Ishiwatari's new project isn't a game at all. Might be something about his music instead.
Re: Marvel Tokon and 'Completely New Titles' to Star in Surprise Arc System Works Showcase
@RBMango Yeah I wouldn't bet on Tokon making an appearance here either, because this seems like a showcase for ASW as a publisher, which they aren't for the Marvel game.
I also don't think Daisuke's game is Guilty Gear unless it's a spin-off in a different genre.
Re: God of War's Rumoured Metroidvania Now Due in 2026 on PS5
I didn't know this rumor but I'd totally play that. Hope it's true.
Adding voices is a good reason for a delay too.
Re: PSVR2 to Lose the Support of Its Best Game This Month
Not that the title is particularly controversial but I just wanna say I think Synth Riders is the more fun rhythm VR game
Re: The Next Xbox Is a PC, So What Does That Mean for PS6?
I sure hope the next Playstation does not run on Windows.
As for Xbox, this has to mean it will be more expensive than traditional consoles - I don't think MS can afford to sell them at a loss (like they did with Xboxes) if they're not guaranteed to get any revenue from the games.
Re: 'The Story Is Weak': Stellar Blade Dev Acknowledges PS5, PC Fave's Biggest Flaw
I think the premise was good (even if not too original) - it could've been told with more impact though.
Re: FBC: Firebreak (PS5) - PS Plus Shooter Proves Remedy Should Have Stayed in Its Lane
I thought this looked fun in the presentations and I'll be willing to give it a shot on PS+.
Just need to get a team cause I don't think I wanna play it with random people
Re: Andy Bogard Brings Fresh Energy to Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves on PS5, PS4
@nomither6 I didn’t buy it myself because I figured in my limited time there would be few occasions I’d want to launch it over Guilty Gear but I played the beta and thought it was good
Re: Final Fantasy 16 May Have Underperformed on PS5, But It's Doing Terribly on Xbox
@slips666 same, I haven't played the DLC yet. Thanks for reminding me actually.
My main problem was that the base difficulty was very easy most of the time, so it didn't really require you to do anything advanced in the combat.
Re: Andy Bogard Brings Fresh Energy to Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves on PS5, PS4
Man, this game is such a weird case even within the genre.
Very popular in the competitive circuits - no doubt thanks to the promise of massive prize pools.
Completely failed to resonate with the more casual players though - likely in part because they saw it as this highly competitive game.
Ronaldo and Salvatore are officially the 2 least popular characters too.
That being said, Andy looks cool.
Re: Final Fantasy 16 May Have Underperformed on PS5, But It's Doing Terribly on Xbox
@nessisonett Cid was definitely a highlight for this one, doubt anyone would disagree
Re: Final Fantasy 16 May Have Underperformed on PS5, But It's Doing Terribly on Xbox
Man, I loved XVI (even though I had some complaints) but I know many didn't.
Re: Reaction: Sony Finally Understands the Assignment with One of the Best State of Plays of the PS5 Era
I couldn't watch live because I'm at a festival. After it aired I saw a bunch of tweets about it being "another disappointing SoP", "2/10", "terrible" etc.
Then I watched it and was like "man, do gamers even like games anymore? all of these look great".
And yeah, I get that people want more news from Sony studios but does it really matter that much who makes the game?
That being said, the PS Studios/ArcSys Marvel game is one of the most hype and most important announcements of the decade to me.
Re: 6 Bonus PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Confirmed for May, June 2025
Interested in ACT
Re: Guilty Gear Strive's Unika Steps Out of the Anime and into the PS5, PS4 Game
@47Levi Maybe it's because I don't care about lore being coherent in fighting games all that much
Character looks good though.
It's funny how they showed the trailer last minute because it was "spoilers for the anime" and they waited until the finale, but all it actually contains is one bit that was revealed several episodes ago.
If anything, maybe it was because people would be disappointed that the transformation from the super was not in it
Re: Guilty Gear Strive's Unika Steps Out of the Anime and into the PS5, PS4 Game
I thought the anime wasn't bad and I know the players are very excited for Unika 🤷♂️
Re: Poll: Do You Care About the Death of PS Stars?
I got some free store credit with this while not really going out of my way for more than a few minutes so I'm sad to see this go
Re: Sony's Huge Days of Play Sale on PS5 Consoles, Games, PS Plus Subs Starts Next Week
Lemme guess - the PS+ discount won't be available if you're currently subscribed
Re: Mortal Kombat Fans Are Fuming MK1's Support Appears to Be Over
@nomither6 Funnily enough, the competitive players seem to think it's very good right now and possibly the best game in that regard since MK9 - but that's a small fraction of MK's audience
Re: Mortal Kombat Fans Are Fuming MK1's Support Appears to Be Over
This isn't unusual for an NRS game. It's about as much as MK11 got.
Sure, it's way less than other games in the genre but I believe they themselves said their competition is not Tekken and Street Fighter, it's Call of Duty. MK's always had a different target audience than most fighting games.
Just saying this is hardly unexpected at this point.
Re: State of Play Set for Wednesday, 20 Minutes of Borderlands 4 Gameplay
not watching 20 minutes of Randy Pitchford
Re: Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves Reveals Ridiculous E-Sports Prize Pot as PS5, PS4 Fighter Gets Off to a Slow Start
@Fighting_Game_Loser I agree - it says more about the genre than the game itself - it's just very niche apart from 3-4 franchises (Guilty Gear being the latest to get somewhat bigger but still nowhere near SF, MK and Tekken).
They're clearly trying to brute force their way into that group by throwing money at it and so far it's not really working, but it doesn't mean the game's not good.
And yes, I do think Ronaldo's inclusion might've had the opposite effect to what they intended, if any.
Re: Massive PS Plus Clearout Announced for May, 22 Games Leaving
Oh *****, I guess I better play some VR games soon
Re: TV Show Review: The Last of Us (HBO) Season 2 Episode 2 - More Birdie Than Hole in One
@johncalmc I agree with this. I thought starting the season with revealing who Abby's group is and what their intentions are was detrimental to the flow of the narrative.
Now, I obviously knew this anyway but I think the game handled this great, with Abby being visibly surprised when she realized she was saved by Joel, and then the same happening at the lodge, and the player not yet knowing what it was about.
I also don't see how Dina being there in person instead of Tommy benefits the story but maybe I have to wait and see.
I'm not usually too hard against adaptations deviating from the source material but I'm sceptical about these changes.
That said, I'm still enjoying the show a lot.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Indiana Jones and the Great Circle on PS5?
Will play after I'm done with Shadows... which should be a while, lol
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Patch 1.0.3 Walks Back Item Changes, Fixes PS5 Pro Graphics Issues
That was quick on the HDR issue. It only really occurred in some specific time of day / weather scenarios but it was pretty annoying when it did
Re: Tekken 8 Team Working 'Day and Night' to Fix the Game as First 'Emergency' Patch Is Revealed
@djlard For one, it would remove a DLC character that didn't have a version before this patch - there are many universal changes which would mean she'd have to be reworked to fit in with the old version.
But also while there's a large (and understandably so) opposition to the new patch among the high level and competitive players, there's also a lot of players on all levels that may not care as much about balance but taking away the new options that were just given to them wouldn't be the right move.
Updating evolving games is tricky and sometimes it's a miss (and it's not just competitive games - Helldivers 2 went through this as well) but entirely reverting a patch is usually not the way unless it literally breaks the game for everyone.
I think what happened with Tekken is... there's always a lot of talk about "player expression" in fighting games, often in the context that modern games lack it compared to older ones.
I think the Tekken team wanted to "increase player expression" by giving characters new ways to link strings, extend combos, generally more options in multiple situations - which sounds good and fun in theory, until you realise this only applies to one player at a time, while the other one's options become even more limited
for an even longer time.
It also severely overshadowed the improvements to defence, which the community asked for and which do exist in this patch - they just don't matter if the offence became even more stronger.
Re: Indiana Jones and the Great Circle (PS5) - Globe-Trotting Adventure Just Got Even Better on PS5
I'm very interested in this but I'm nowhere near the end of AC Shadows yet
Re: The Last of Us Complete Out Today at $99.99 on PS5, Physical Collector's Edition Drops in July
A lot of people will want to play these games for the first time after watching season 2 of the TV show and this is a good way to get them.
I'm obviously not buying since I already own both but I don't see a problem here.
Re: Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Download Size Is Still Massive on PS5
@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare to be fair there's a lot of games that are smaller on PS5 than they are on PS4 despite having higher quality assets etc... it's just that a lot of them also got bigger in general
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Patch 1.0.2 Incoming, Improves Horses, Item Selling, Adds PSSR on PS5 Pro
That's a long list and some of these are very welcome
I'm 30h in and I've been having a lot of fun so far.
Re: As If Ronaldo Wasn't Enough, Fatal Fury: City of the Wolves Adds Real-Life DJ to Roster
@Jrs1 Both others and his own, I believe. Either way, this was the first time I heard about him.
Obviously it turns out he's signed to a label owned by the same people who own SNK.
Re: Tekken 8 Season 2 Patch Notes Are Here, Insane Buffs Have Fans Asking If It's an April Fools' Joke
Oh, btw - I'm not worried about the game's future. Even if this is bad (I did not get a chance to play yet so I don't have a strong opinion), there will be more patches for several years to come.