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@jonny_aces All Ill say is, as the group dungeons scale, you arent completing them by yourself.
Purely as the bosses are prone to producing adds on a horrendous scale, and youd need a healer.

On topic: One of the best parts of this game is the fact you can be really struggling on a boss and have two other players run in doing the same quest and help you take it down.
Whereas its not as rewarding as it is in Bloodborne, its still nice.

Looks good.
But no doubt costs 150 quid more than a regular PS4 and they send you the controller after 2 weeks as a "hot fix".

Good stuff.
Personally Ive never even hit the weight limit.
In fact Ive not even been over 2/3.
I dont see the point in crafting armour or weapons for the sake of doing so.
If I dont need it, I dont build it or keep it.

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi I spent the first 3 months getting nothing but energy.
Did the raid, got a weapon and energy.
It took me 4 months to get any raid armour.
Bought the Vanguard stuff, and sacked off the raid entirely.
As it stands, I have never run out of energy, and that's after upgrading 10-15 guns.
I think at the highest I had 340.
No shards, no nothing else!

@get2sammyb Stop posting Taylor Swift stuff!
She makes me feel things, emotionally!
She makes all of us feel things!

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi I only played the DLC because I bought into the hype and bagged the pass.
I never even hit max light, ever!

@Bad-MuthaAdebisi I paid 90 notes for this game.
And it certainly is not worth that.
No one will ever change my mind about it.
Ive done 3 of the HoW "story" missions and was so bored that they were EXACTLY the same as the others.
Thats just my two cents though.
My main gripe is the why.

Why am I helping the speaker?
Who appointed the speaker?
Who exactly is the Cryptarch?
Why am I helping that weird robot hunter chick?

I personally like context and Destiny did not have much if any.
And Bungie openly stated that there was a deep rich story.
Maybe you get it from an Engram?

@LieutenantFatman It was Velocity 2X on reflection.
I agree it wont cater to all specifically and nor should it, but its evident that the "Indy" pool is limited genre wise and we see very similar game styles repeatedly. The rogue likes for example.
I would take something like Hover, Journey, Wander or something like that over most that has been offered thus far. Because their gameplay is vastly different to most.

@LieutenantFatman First Light bored me to tears honestly.
I never really liked Fetch as a character though so that might be why.
Strider was top drawer in my opinion, thoroughly enjoyable.
Im flat out just not into any if that pixel art stuff.
I tried Transistor and that was a yawnfest, as was Axiom Verge? The "metroid" type game.
I think as Ive got older Ive moved with the times.
Retro is great but I still have a SNES, on which I could play the actual, far superior, Metroid.
Injustice was a great addition, I loved that game.

@Johnnycide Well, now I feel like an ass…

@teknium_ I think that does affect things to be honest.
I only have a ps4 and as Plus is s requirement for online play, I dont feel any benefit from ot at all.
Imo, just because something is being offered for "free" that doesnt neccessarily mean it is worth having or playing.

@Johnnycide I never said that at all.
I pointed out that many folk here have to jump all over those whom arent happy.
I never even mentioned that made people "entitled" at all.

I never played it, I wish Id had though as it would have been a nice change to the standarc formula most of these games share.
Irrelevant of whether the actual story was good, I personally would like to see more of that, preferrably a deeper story.
Easily pleased? Seriously?
Are you just plucking this rubbish out of the air?
Ive catagorically stated time and again how Im NOT interested in many of the plus titles.

@LieutenantFatman Well, unless you want to play Battlefield or Call of Duty with your mates…

Rocket League looks interesting and fun!
And by that I mean uninteresting and dull.
Cue, "you dont know quality, you are entitled, youre not allowed to dislike a game" etc etc…zzzzz…

A valid point was made earlier by @Mrskinner, there are alot of a class pricks on here that just have to slag off anyone who doesnt share their view.
What also seems to happen is AAA games get a lot of crap for being too generic, content been done before, graphically not that great and so on and so forth.
That happens just as much in Indy dev games, but wait! That makes them exempt from that kind of criticism right?
The answer is in fact, no.

Personally Im (still) waiting for a nice story driven title on plus.
Or something similar to Strider, a good action adventure would be nice too.
I dont care if its Indy and as @get2sammyb pointed out to me earlier this year, Ninja Theory are an Indy dev, and I thoroughly enjoy their games.

Nothing, unsurprisingly interests me again, but well see what happens next month.

@SteveButler2210 Thats a good point.
I personally prefer him sounding different, like he did in MGS4.
Hayter is the iconic MGS voice though.

David Hayter played Snake well, true.
But then again thats the only actor wed ever heard do so.
Plus this isnt Snake, its Big Boss, so having a different voice makes ALOT of sense.

@adf86 I agree, you are right.
Its a shame though, because it can happen, when consumers fight enough.

@adf86 Actually, Nintendo have had some flak regards this.
And irrespective of that, because everyone does it doesnt make it right.
We as consumers are the real problem here though.
We accept it and pay for it.

@BLPs And me.
I get having exclusives, but timed DLC? Really?

"A great benefit to all gamers".
Please Mr Boyes, explain in great detail how moving the earlier access to content from one platform to another benefits "all gamers".

@carlos82 Hmm, you may be right but it could be less ominous.
In the (witcher) sense that maybe they released the game whilst still creating the extras.
I dont know but that could be why they are voice acted etc.

@feral1975 You have to buy most of it bar the alt looks.
You need to buy the Wolf School armour maps.

@tcnitsni Id say its so so.
I played it pre ps4 release at work though so perhaps not a good example.

@TeslaChippie It feels like an arcade game.
Theres no descernable career mode, and you essentially just pick a race series, do it then repeat.

Repetetive generic indie.
Repetetive generic indie.
Repetetive generic indie.
Seriously though I dont know, nor worry, as Im fairly confident it wont be anything substantial enough for me.

@Gmork___ Everyone will get something after 50k shares, but you would get something extra I believe if you send in a photo.
Personally I think this is expert marketing, and as everyone has access to water, and its at no extra cost to the person, its a nice way of rewarding fans.

I hate that collision penalty crap.
I hit other driver, I get punished.
Other driver hits me, I get punished.
How is that a balanced scoring system?

@BAMozzy But Sony is directly responsible for the PS4, those in Sonys employ design and build.
Not another company in their employ.
It is made in house.
Let me try to explain better.
I work as an engineer for British Airways.
BA is financed by IAG.
When a mod is required for a 747 for example, BA put a finance case to IAG, which says either yes or no.
IAG, DO NOT build, design or fit the mod, BA do, in house, thus they are the "creative mind" behind said mod, not IAG, nor do IAG own said mod, BA and IAG are separate companies, similarly, Bungie and Microsoft are separate in this case.

When I said "I build a car" it was an example, with "I" being the developer and "you" being the financier.
Not individual persons.

Im not trying to get at you personally however, and respect your argument.

@BAMozzy Actually no it doesnt.
If I design a car and build it, through my own creativity, but you foot the cost, that doesnt make you the creative mind, just the financier. Ergo, its not your creativity but mine, despite that. The developer is responsible for that creativity in this case, and Microsoft the financier.

@Mickael486 This.
Folk will always throw Halo out as "Microsofts creativity at its finest", which of course is rubbish.
What with Halo being Bungies creation and all, M$ just financed.

Pretty much all were dont want.
U4 and the Drake collection are a must have though!

Also, Nathan Fillion should be Nate Drakes voice!

@Sonicfan11589 You missed out by exactly zero.
The precursor to these, Fahrenheit was great, these are a but crap to be honest.
Unless you like story driven games with terrible controls.

@ShogunRok As a massive Raider fan I have to agree.
The reboot was great, but then ND come back with the masterpiece that was U3!

"An entirely new game" made me laugh heartily.
If any other series pumps out the exact same thing time after time they get slated to the eyeballs, but when telltale release tge EXACT same game with a different name its great!
Not getting at you, just an observation.

Dying Light sort of cane out of nowhere.
Expected to be a Dead Island clone but ended up as something much better.'and The Witcher, well, that has probably been the liver punch of this half of the year!

Thats a shame.
I thought it was going to be an over the top stylised action game like DmC, and thats what I was hoping for.
This seems more Bloodborne-esque.
Maybe DmC-esque is out?

It burnt my eyes with its gorgeousness!

Their support of last gen was atrocious.
Xbox didnt get a patch for a year and a half!
And their communication was equally as bad.

That said, the game is great and I will be getting it!

Ive been absolutely astounded by the post launch support!
The game is a fun title to play and they have tweaked it and really tried to make it better.
Excellent!

@BertoFlyingFox Well, no it isnt a bad example.
That was an exploit that should never have been possible and required you to create new characters and use a specific item.

Killing cows is a game mechanic, not an exploit as it was fully intended, and thus should be possible.
And like you said, The More You Know…

I await all the "this is derivative, generic, same as other indies" comments.
No, wait, indies are exempt from that…

@BertoFlyingFox Me too, Im glad they are forcing players to play a specific way, regardless of whether they want too.
A bit like how Bloodborne forced me to have to kill different enemies for blood echoes…oh wait, no it didnt…

@Gemuarto But you dont HAVE to do this, its using in game mechanics which are there regardless of whether you choose to kill the same group of enemies or not.
Destiny forces you to repeat the exact same process due to very little content.
And Im still not sure how killing a load of cows is different to killing a load of any other animal and selling its hide.

EDIT: I see now you were referring to the patching.

As Im clearly thick, how exactly is killing the cows different to ANY other animal or monster and selling its hide?
And I also dont see how buying an item from one merchant and selling it to another regards the shells is an exploit, how is that different than buying ANY other item?

@SeahorseLegs Im guessing you're playing with the TV off…

Im starting to truly believe all those "its a hoax guys", and "unofficial" teasers over the years were all advertising!
Bethsoft all but denied it was set in Boston…
Well played I say, am looking forward to it!

@AyeHaley Hahaha, I thought the exact same thing!

@BladeRider But if you kill them, and you can, but lose two team mates you win right?
If you kill three locks and lose team mates and they all res, you have just been pushed back over the finish line.
Just seems a bit of a cheap way to lose.

@BladeRider Yeah if I kill some dude, then just run off and he revives then kills me fine.
But exactly that, the round is over when the last guy goes down regardless.
Not being able to revive at 1 second and end up 3 on 1.
Thats more my frustration.

@SouthTippBass I agree those are powerfull but it shouldnt be useable AFTER youve lost.
If I cross the finish line first, you shouldnt be able to nudge me back accross an then cross the line yourself.
If I kill you all the round should be over, its not the ability thats unfair but the way a round ends.
If you revive BEFORE the last man goes down then fine.

@SouthTippBass ToO is great…well, until you come up against 3 warlocks whom you destroy, then at 1 on the counter they self res and kill you and win…somehow, despite the fact you have just killed them.
That is just rediculous unbalanced rubbish.
As ONLY a warlock can do it, if you arent one you could quite easily be beaten by poor end of round management.
In the sense that if I kill you all, the round should be over there and then, no timer, no bulls**t.