I think they need to drop games pass, and go back to the old monthly games. This would not save them paying for external games to be on it, especially day one games, but would also force more customers to purchase games on their platform and get the 30% revenue.
I think subscriptions should really be for your own companies games only, and day one should be a no go.
I know it's controversial, as it seems anti gamer, but look at all the companies dying now.
People are not buying new games, and focusing on the massive backlogs of rented games. AA and AAA games are baring the brunt if this
@Mio_Nakashima same here, only day one purchase for me was astrobot for the little one. I have about over 300 games in backlog, with the majority purchased in sales, or attained through plus and premium. I have been focusing on premium/ extra games currently so that I don't have to purchase them in the future. I very rarely return to a game once completed, so that is a lost sale if I am playing them through that service.
I am still part way through valhalla without touching dlc, then I got mirage and shadows to. So being single minded, I hope it's a while before we get another so I can catch up
I haven't bought a single sports game outside fifa/fc for a couple of sessions. And i have loads of sports titles from basketball to baseball to wrestling / Ufc / golf / hockey.
If your not bothered by rosters, you never really need to buy one to experience one lol
@Krlozgod that's only true if games are less thab the 100gb limit on disc. There are not many games that do dual discs. With games now starting to exceed these limits because of higher quality textures etc, this limit is going to hit more future games.
I am not saying there shouldn't be a disc drive option. I absolutely think this is a must have. I am just saying my preference for the way I play has changed massively, especially because of the Portal.
We also need to consider this ps6 handheld. That wont have an optical drive, so I dont think many people will want to double dip on purchases, unless they work a way with disc licenses.
I for one, will be going discless on my next playsation console. I bought the disc ps5 day one, and then bought the pro and disc drive.
One reason everyone including Shaun is forgetting, is that most games dont fully ship on the discs. They need day 1 patch and have to fully install on the drive anyway. It's not like ps3 days where you can play straight off the disc. It started happening on ps4. But ps5, I dont think hardly any big aaa games come fully playable on the disc. Bring into the act, a lot of games have some form of live service, and some games on disc dont even work once sections of the game are shutdown.
Due to the Portal and storage space, I now find it more appealing that I can just pick up and play, without having to change physical discs and I can change at a whim. I found myself rebuying alot of the disc games on digital store sales.
@Axelay71 Never played anthem or crew personally as multiplayer. I did the single player campaigns and the good games. But having bought them, no longer being able to play them i feel is a far worse sit1uation than renting and no longer be available to rent. It doesnt really matter if you enjoy those games or not, as games are a preference. However the difference between owning something and losing it, and renting and running out of time is a lot.
I think they do need to slow down on these games though altogether. As I said I have every game so far on ps4 and ps5 but I have only played kiwami 1 and LaD Gaiden. I still have to do the following;
Y0
Yk2
Y3r
Y4r
Y5r
Y7 LaD
Lad IW
Ishin
Pirates
Judgement
Lost judgment
Fist of the North Star
And then Yk3 down the line
They got that other noir looking yakuza game
They will probably remaster dead souls and that other historical ps2 yakuza games too at some point.
The thought just tires me out about starting that list
I will be honest being a former Sautrn/Mega CD/MS2/GG player, I buy the games mainly to play the arcade or console classics as well
@Broosh I think that is what i will have to do to follow the story. Just get kiwami 3 down the line and re-experience the game in time for the new cannon
I have all the ps4 and ps5 yakuza games but i have only played, kiwami 1 and like a dragin gaiden. So as i haven't yet started kiwami 2 yet which is next on my list what do i do then? Do i skip 3, 4 ,5 remasters? What about the story in number 6, does that link to those three remastees? Does flow from kiwami 3? I kind of know some.plot points of 6 which led into Gaiden? I know I can do zero, ishin. Not overly interested in the turn based games.
Have completed spider man 2 but as I bought it phyiscal I cant play it on the Portal unless I remote play. Remote play is nowhere near the level of streaming play on the Portal, so this great for to jump in when I want.
@Balaam_ work around is via ps5 itself. Where you can click to play game, there are three dots. Click on that click view product and you can then purchase it even if you have it on ps plus. That is literally the only way. The bigger problem is what the first guy said. If you had really purchased it, but then went through ps plus extra and clicked on it their. It's changes your purchase to rental status with plus meaning if it's removed you lose your purchase licence to the game.
Well hopefully they release horizon 3, 4 and 5 soon, God knows when we will get horizon 6 as per the question? Unless your talking about forza horizon 6
@RoomWithaMoose only bought it on the back of ac8 trailer, but waited for 2 ps plus months first. Hey ho, they get their share of the money spent which was ridiculously low anyway because of the sale
@Game2590 I know, I think ps plus is great value anyway, and getting to try undisputed more than makes up for it. I just thought that it was highly unlikely that this would appear, as I waited over a month since the ac8 trailer to buy this thinking it would in December or Januarys update. Nevermind
@lacerz I need to find out the exact date. However it was definitely after they had reiterated that ps4 games would not appear again unless it was a joint ps5/ps4 games, which clearly this is not. I mean I bought it in a sale and think it was very cheap, it's just the principle of it. I have been buying up ps4 games in my wishlist since (again only at mega cheap prices) but this will put a stop to that
I am happy with this. It was one is had eye on but I have stopped buying games so at least I get it with bills further expense as I am already premium for the Portal
In fairness, the upgrade they were about to deliver cataclysm, or something along those lines, sounded like a redemption arc and it probably would have lasted longer. I could have done a no man's sky and become a new destiny/division game that people would sink hours into. It wasn't that bad of a game, it was just limited but those were almost going to be ironed out with the upgrade it's a shame really, as it was fun to play of what was there
@gaston I disagree. Single player games and even games like destiny or helldivers, you feel the progression, whether that be story or your characters look and build, feels.like your time has meant something. Arc raiders for me does not have that appeal, as I dont like the idea of losing everything you have built up. I know you keep stuff that's at your base, but what's the point in building that stuff up never to use them because of fear of losing it.
I think due to arc raiders, I wont purchase this at all. I just dont like extraction shooters. The idea of spending lots of time building up weapons and armour, to have it all gone in an instance, is a waste of precious time for me.
Lots of value for money when you look at the amount of games on there. Just need the Portal to at least have the ability to stream all of the games on this list
Generally the Pro upgrades have been OK to Good. Day 1 ps5, ps5 pro and ps portal here and I can say that since the last upgrade, the ps portal is now my go to. I have always been about the graphics in the past. I was sold on the idea that ps5 pro was going to be ps5 quality mode but at 60fps, ans then ray tracing added on top. I have been disappointed that many ps5 pro games only have an improved resolution and extra bells and whistles on the ps5 performance modes. The ps5 pro quality modes are still mainly 30fps and there hasn't been too many 40fps balanced modes. I still play on the ps5 and ps5 pro equally (as im not seeing huge improvements so have two games in state of wuick resume), whereas with ps4 pro, I dropped playing the ps4 altogether
Already got nfs unbound ultimate edition. The ultimate edition or upgraded is really needed if you want to try different cars thanks to the stupid structure and awful rubber banding races. However Epic Mickey was on my wishlist so glad to be getting this. Therefore I am happy with what I am getting this month.
I dont see how anyone can complain about it. Even if multiplayer was free. For cost of one full price rrp game, you got to play all of these games. What else can you get for 6 pound a month that's better value entertainment wise?
@Jacko11 they need to just release the original code for ps5 for ac unity, so that it's 60fps and the crowd density is increased. A bump up in the resolution wouldn't kill either lol
@Blauwe_Chimay the two originals are in my backlog. Hence why i nearly didnt play it. I have heard all lot people say the originals are better so something for me to look forward to, if plus stops putting wishlist games on.
Yes loved Dead Island 2, even more so as I completed on PS Plus extra. I think that's what has given me the push to complete any wishlist games that appear on ps plus extra / premium, as I was holding back to play backlog games I bought. However this game really changed that perspective, and now those games are priority. For example I have had to buy Dying Light 2 and Revenant 2 because I didnt play them when they were on plus
Omg.... another two games on my to buy list. That's pushing bought games out, as I would rather utilise my ps plus membership and not have to buy the games
Cant upgrade kiwami 1, have upgraded 2 for free and 11.99 for zero upgrade. Hate it when the store bugs out. It keeps saying I need to own kiwami 1, then proceeds to let me download ps4 version.
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Re: PS Plus Essential Games for March 2026 Announced
With the elder scrolls, which version is it?
Re: 'The Plan's the Plan Until It's Not the Plan': Xbox All Over the Place on Future PS5 Ports
I think they need to drop games pass, and go back to the old monthly games. This would not save them paying for external games to be on it, especially day one games, but would also force more customers to purchase games on their platform and get the 30% revenue.
I think subscriptions should really be for your own companies games only, and day one should be a no go.
I know it's controversial, as it seems anti gamer, but look at all the companies dying now.
People are not buying new games, and focusing on the massive backlogs of rented games. AA and AAA games are baring the brunt if this
Re: Things Sure Aren't Sounding Good for French Publisher Nacon
@Mio_Nakashima same here, only day one purchase for me was astrobot for the little one. I have about over 300 games in backlog, with the majority purchased in sales, or attained through plus and premium. I have been focusing on premium/ extra games currently so that I don't have to purchase them in the future. I very rarely return to a game once completed, so that is a lost sale if I am playing them through that service.
Re: Origins, Black Flag Creative Director Made Head of Assassin's Creed Franchise
I am still part way through valhalla without touching dlc, then I got mirage and shadows to. So being single minded, I hope it's a while before we get another so I can catch up
Re: First PS Plus Essential Game for March 2026 Leaked Early
I haven't bought a single sports game outside fifa/fc for a couple of sessions. And i have loads of sports titles from basketball to baseball to wrestling / Ufc / golf / hockey.
If your not bothered by rosters, you never really need to buy one to experience one lol
Re: Sony Makes Shocking Decision to Shut Down Bluepoint Games
Effen fuming
Re: Here's Why Shawn Layden Thinks Sony 'Can't Get Away' with Making PS6 Digital Only
@Krlozgod that's only true if games are less thab the 100gb limit on disc. There are not many games that do dual discs. With games now starting to exceed these limits because of higher quality textures etc, this limit is going to hit more future games.
I am not saying there shouldn't be a disc drive option. I absolutely think this is a must have.
I am just saying my preference for the way I play has changed massively, especially because of the Portal.
We also need to consider this ps6 handheld. That wont have an optical drive, so I dont think many people will want to double dip on purchases, unless they work a way with disc licenses.
Re: Here's Why Shawn Layden Thinks Sony 'Can't Get Away' with Making PS6 Digital Only
I for one, will be going discless on my next playsation console. I bought the disc ps5 day one, and then bought the pro and disc drive.
One reason everyone including Shaun is forgetting, is that most games dont fully ship on the discs. They need day 1 patch and have to fully install on the drive anyway. It's not like ps3 days where you can play straight off the disc. It started happening on ps4. But ps5, I dont think hardly any big aaa games come fully playable on the disc. Bring into the act, a lot of games have some form of live service, and some games on disc dont even work once sections of the game are shutdown.
Due to the Portal and storage space, I now find it more appealing that I can just pick up and play, without having to change physical discs and I can change at a whim. I found myself rebuying alot of the disc games on digital store sales.
Re: 6 More PS5, PS4 Games Will Be Removed from PS Plus Extra Next Month
@Axelay71 Never played anthem or crew personally as multiplayer. I did the single player campaigns and the good games. But having bought them, no longer being able to play them i feel is a far worse sit1uation than renting and no longer be available to rent. It doesnt really matter if you enjoy those games or not, as games are a preference. However the difference between owning something and losing it, and renting and running out of time is a lot.
Re: 6 More PS5, PS4 Games Will Be Removed from PS Plus Extra Next Month
@Axelay71 Anthem, The Crew 1 and Concord physical editions are saying, hello play me then.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for February 2026?
Echoes never played and Spiderman 2 (own phys8cal) on my portal. So quite happy
Re: No More Yakuza Kiwami Games After Kiwami 3 Story Changes, New Series Could Happen
I think they do need to slow down on these games though altogether. As I said I have every game so far on ps4 and ps5 but I have only played kiwami 1 and LaD Gaiden. I still have to do the following;
Y0
Yk2
Y3r
Y4r
Y5r
Y7 LaD
Lad IW
Ishin
Pirates
Judgement
Lost judgment
Fist of the North Star
And then Yk3 down the line
They got that other noir looking yakuza game
They will probably remaster dead souls and that other historical ps2 yakuza games too at some point.
The thought just tires me out about starting that list
I will be honest being a former Sautrn/Mega CD/MS2/GG player, I buy the games mainly to play the arcade or console classics as well
Re: No More Yakuza Kiwami Games After Kiwami 3 Story Changes, New Series Could Happen
@Broosh I think that is what i will have to do to follow the story. Just get kiwami 3 down the line and re-experience the game in time for the new cannon
Re: No More Yakuza Kiwami Games After Kiwami 3 Story Changes, New Series Could Happen
I have all the ps4 and ps5 yakuza games but i have only played, kiwami 1 and like a dragin gaiden. So as i haven't yet started kiwami 2 yet which is next on my list what do i do then?
Do i skip 3, 4 ,5 remasters?
What about the story in number 6, does that link to those three remastees? Does flow from kiwami 3?
I kind of know some.plot points of 6 which led into Gaiden?
I know I can do zero, ishin.
Not overly interested in the turn based games.
Re: PS Plus Extra Games for February 2026 Leaked
Have completed spider man 2 but as I bought it phyiscal I cant play it on the Portal unless I remote play. Remote play is nowhere near the level of streaming play on the Portal, so this great for to jump in when I want.
Re: PS5's First State of Play of 2026 Tipped for Later This Week
Pssr2 update please. Have enough games.to last me two lifetimes at the moment lol
Re: Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Permanently Cheaper on PS5 from Next Week
@Balaam_ work around is via ps5 itself. Where you can click to play game, there are three dots. Click on that click view product and you can then purchase it even if you have it on ps plus. That is literally the only way.
The bigger problem is what the first guy said. If you had really purchased it, but then went through ps plus extra and clicked on it their. It's changes your purchase to rental status with plus meaning if it's removed you lose your purchase licence to the game.
Re: Horizon Hunters Gathering Is Guerrilla's Next Big PS5 Game, Horizon 3 Still Years Away
Well hopefully they release horizon 3, 4 and 5 soon, God knows when we will get horizon 6 as per the question? Unless your talking about forza horizon 6
Re: Poll: What's Your Reaction to Horizon Hunters Gathering?
As long as it is pve and has the same sort of feel of horizon then I am all for this. If it becomes a pvpve then I am not interested at all
Re: Rumour: Ace Combat 8 Online Beta Test Inbound, Pre-Order May Include a Whole Other Game
@FX102A that makes sense why i cant see it as an add or dlc.or separate game in store
Re: Rumour: Ace Combat 8 Online Beta Test Inbound, Pre-Order May Include a Whole Other Game
Is ace combat 5 still avaiabl3?
Re: Rumour: PS Portal OLED Version Coming This Year
In a instance. I would deffo pick up. Be great if it has a 1440p screen too
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2026 Announced
@RoomWithaMoose only bought it on the back of ac8 trailer, but waited for 2 ps plus months first. Hey ho, they get their share of the money spent which was ridiculously low anyway because of the sale
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2026 Announced
@Game2590 I know, I think ps plus is great value anyway, and getting to try undisputed more than makes up for it. I just thought that it was highly unlikely that this would appear, as I waited over a month since the ac8 trailer to buy this thinking it would in December or Januarys update. Nevermind
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2026 Announced
@lacerz I need to find out the exact date. However it was definitely after they had reiterated that ps4 games would not appear again unless it was a joint ps5/ps4 games, which clearly this is not. I mean I bought it in a sale and think it was very cheap, it's just the principle of it. I have been buying up ps4 games in my wishlist since (again only at mega cheap prices) but this will put a stop to that
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for February 2026 Announced
You got to be effing kidding me. I bought ace combat 7 after they announced no more ps4 games on ps plus. That's out of order
Re: PlayStation State of Play Is Locked in for February, It's Claimed
@WolfyTn yes pssr2 is what i am most interested. Have held off playing some 1st party games until that is launched
Re: PS Plus Essential Game for February 2026 Leaked
I am happy with this. It was one is had eye on but I have stopped buying games so at least I get it with bills further expense as I am already premium for the Portal
Re: 'Could You Tell at the Time?': Ex-Producer Defends BioWare's Decision to Make ANTHEM
In fairness, the upgrade they were about to deliver cataclysm, or something along those lines, sounded like a redemption arc and it probably would have lasted longer. I could have done a no man's sky and become a new destiny/division game that people would sink hours into. It wasn't that bad of a game, it was just limited but those were almost going to be ironed out with the upgrade it's a shame really, as it was fun to play of what was there
Re: Marathon's PS5 Release Date Looks Like It's Leaked
I liked the idea in Division 1 and 2 with the dark zones. You lose the items you are trying to extract but not all of the gear you went in with.
Re: Marathon's PS5 Release Date Looks Like It's Leaked
@gaston I disagree. Single player games and even games like destiny or helldivers, you feel the progression, whether that be story or your characters look and build, feels.like your time has meant something. Arc raiders for me does not have that appeal, as I dont like the idea of losing everything you have built up. I know you keep stuff that's at your base, but what's the point in building that stuff up never to use them because of fear of losing it.
Re: Marathon's PS5 Release Date Looks Like It's Leaked
I think due to arc raiders, I wont purchase this at all. I just dont like extraction shooters. The idea of spending lots of time building up weapons and armour, to have it all gone in an instance, is a waste of precious time for me.
Re: Ubisoft All-Timer Far Cry 3 Is Getting a 60fps Update on PS5, with More to Follow
@Uromastryx which ones? The watch dog games?
Re: Ubisoft All-Timer Far Cry 3 Is Getting a 60fps Update on PS5, with More to Follow
Just ac unity, ezio collections, black flag, rouge, 3 remastered, liberty gr wildands, and watch dogs 1 and 2 to go
Re: All PS Plus Games Available Now
Lots of value for money when you look at the amount of games on there.
Just need the Portal to at least have the ability to stream all of the games on this list
Re: Rumour: PS5 Pro's Big PSSR Update Releasing by March, Improves Graphics and Performance
Generally the Pro upgrades have been OK to Good. Day 1 ps5, ps5 pro and ps portal here and I can say that since the last upgrade, the ps portal is now my go to. I have always been about the graphics in the past. I was sold on the idea that ps5 pro was going to be ps5 quality mode but at 60fps, ans then ray tracing added on top. I have been disappointed that many ps5 pro games only have an improved resolution and extra bells and whistles on the ps5 performance modes. The ps5 pro quality modes are still mainly 30fps and there hasn't been too many 40fps balanced modes. I still play on the ps5 and ps5 pro equally (as im not seeing huge improvements so have two games in state of wuick resume), whereas with ps4 pro, I dropped playing the ps4 altogether
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for January 2026?
I wanted to get epic mickey and now i got it, so very happy.
Re: Sony Roasted for Promoting 'Temu Resident Evil' Ebola Village for PS5, PS4
Just call it a spiritual successor. As those games seem to get praise lol
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for January 2026 Announced
Already got nfs unbound ultimate edition. The ultimate edition or upgraded is really needed if you want to try different cars thanks to the stupid structure and awful rubber banding races.
However Epic Mickey was on my wishlist so glad to be getting this. Therefore I am happy with what I am getting this month.
Re: Your PS Plus Essential Sub Netted You $1,500+ in PS5, PS4 Games This Year
I dont see how anyone can complain about it. Even if multiplayer was free. For cost of one full price rrp game, you got to play all of these games. What else can you get for 6 pound a month that's better value entertainment wise?
Re: 2016's The Division Now Runs Smoother Than Ever on PS5
@Jacko11 they need to just release the original code for ps5 for ac unity, so that it's 60fps and the crowd density is increased. A bump up in the resolution wouldn't kill either lol
Re: These 4 PS Plus Games Will Leave the Service in January 2026
I finished like a dragon but feel I need to purchase it to keep the arcade games like daytona 2
Re: Dead Island 3 Officially Confirmed in the Least Interesting Way Possible
@Blauwe_Chimay the two originals are in my backlog. Hence why i nearly didnt play it. I have heard all lot people say the originals are better so something for me to look forward to, if plus stops putting wishlist games on.
Re: Dead Island 3 Officially Confirmed in the Least Interesting Way Possible
Yes loved Dead Island 2, even more so as I completed on PS Plus extra. I think that's what has given me the push to complete any wishlist games that appear on ps plus extra / premium, as I was holding back to play backlog games I bought. However this game really changed that perspective, and now those games are priority. For example I have had to buy Dying Light 2 and Revenant 2 because I didnt play them when they were on plus
Re: Star Wars: Fate of the Old Republic Director Rubbishes 2030 Release Date Claims
Is knights of old republic remake still happening?
Re: 9 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for December 2025 Announced
Why is lego horizons there?
Re: 3 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for December 2025 Leaked Early
Omg.... another two games on my to buy list. That's pushing bought games out, as I would rather utilise my ps plus membership and not have to buy the games
Re: Yakuza / Like a Dragon Celebrates 20th Anniversary, Kiryu Fans Won't Want to Miss It
Cant upgrade kiwami 1, have upgraded 2 for free and 11.99 for zero upgrade. Hate it when the store bugs out.
It keeps saying I need to own kiwami 1, then proceeds to let me download ps4 version.
Re: These 13+ PS5, PS4, and PS Plus Games Are Coming Out This Week (8th-14th December)
Cant see yakuza games on store for ps5
Re: Sony's All-In on Exciting PS5 Action RPG The God Slayer, Despite an Xbox Version Existing
I am not overly impressed with graphics. It doesnt look too much different to ps4 games. The lighting is bad