@zebric21 actually odyssey took me 200+ hrs including all dlc. I am on the from software run at moment, having done demon souls remake, dark souls remastered, ds2 and now on bloodborne (I held out for a patch that never came). I am currently doing the following games and all are relatively medium to big games:
Bloodborne
Ghost Recon Wildlands
Death Stranding Directors Cut
AC Valhalla
Dead Island 2
However I also have dlc for other games i completed during the year plus racing games that I jump into.
@zebric21 actually thinking about it, this the same for me. I have a spreadsheet of all games from ps3 through to ps5 and vita. And in the 3 years of ps3 [I bought Xmas 2009] and the release of ps4 day 1 in Nov 2013, I completed far more ps3 games and have much less backlog. I think this is due that the ps3 games took a lot less time to complete, weren't as multi player focused and I was childless. However, the ps4 games I have in backlog not including ps plus is around 200. I think this is due to how cheap deals became a thing that I bought more games. I also have loads of triple aaa games in plus for ps4 to as backlog. I think the issue that arose, was the rise of live service games which I am not into but was addicted to destiny and division, and the size of the single player games all becoming a standard 30hrs plus, with a high percentage sitting at 80hrs or more. I dont like starting games and not completing them as I invest into the stories. Then back compatibility with ps5 has not helped, as I just end up getting more ps4 games where normally I would have stopped or massively reduced spend on last gen. I then have the guilt of having bought games and potentially just dropping them to concentrate on ps5 games. Therefore in the last year and half, I have stopped buying games altogether and just focus on backlog or ps plus extra / premium (where games i would have bought have dropped onto and therefore the race to complete before they are removed)
I own but haven't yet played either psychonauts so I discount that from the offering for me. However I am interested in viewfinder as it looks an interesting puzzle game
I enjoyed the game but I don't think I could face it again. It was frustrating as hell in some sections. Also the fact that the talking was mumbo jumbo and therefore pointless, I couldn't put up with that again.
I thought it was supposed to run ps4 and ps5 games in low power mode, so I would be less interested to play weaker versions of both games on what is essentially a ps5 series s. If they can nail the cross save to instantly update the saves to main console that would be better for pick up and play. Unless the docking station boosts to a standard ps5 or ps5 pro but then it would be ridiculous money
My problem with open world games, is that sometimes there is too much to do in the game. And now that I never buy games when they come out (I have a 200 game backlog including ps3, ps4 and ps5 especially thanks to 15 years of plus), by the time I do get them, they have expansions or free content updates making them even bigger and more overwhelming.
@AverageGamer I wasn't aware about d3 and the mobile game. No interested in latter but definitely would like a new division. Just not sure where they could take it, where it could be iconic like new York or Washington. Unless they take it out of America but would prefer not to be a safe option like London (they didn't do too week with a London watch dogs setting). France would probably work well
I don't thibk there is anything wrong here, you get massive games full of content. I mean people moan about the ubisoft nature of bloat in games, so why moan about more stuff?
Better not be bloodborne, I think I am either halfway or over through it and don't want a superior version now. I held out long enough for a remaster or patch.
Had got Wild Hearts downloaded but never got round to playing it. Not overly fussed though as it's always mega cheap if I wanna pick it up and still gpt two monster hunter games to do (rise and world) in back catalogue which i guess are far superior. It's too long to jump in now, as going holiday in a few weeks. Everyone should play jedi if they haven't already. Very good game let alone very good star wars game.
Would be very generous of sony to give him Factions 2 and let him change the ip, on condition they get some sort of early exclusivity. A lot of the work is done but it would be at his risk and finance
Not played part 2 yet. Would people recommend playing the old way or the new way? Would the new way create spoilers for those of us not familiar with the story? I have kept away from the second tv series for that reason
Decisions for me. Start Dying Light 2 or Remnant 2. Both similar in length (add 10 hrs for me as I seem to be slower than the average times). Have not played the originals to these 2. Which should I go for?
I will add people need to be open to trying games on the service. I would never have bought Atlas Fallen, but I have just done 26 hours on it and really enjoyed it for what it is dont know any other industry where I would get 26 hours of entertainment for £13.49 let alone that being for a month with other stuff to still play. Depending on whether they are leaving or not I will likely play dead island 2, dying light 2, remnant 2, sonic frontiers, or returnal next. If not I have plenty of side missions to clean up in like a dragon gaiden, not mention all the arcade games in it to play. I think when you look at it as a whole, and not just what's being added in a month, it's great value.
Personally nothing that interests me, although I might give deus ex a go (still have not done the ps3 and ps4 games yet so makes sense to do in order).
I got such a backlog of games, so I am more interested in what is leaving ps plus next to see if I need to jump on those games or whether I can tackle some of the purchased games I have wanted to play. Only game i started (other than racing games) that i have yet to complete is ghost recon wildlands. Was holding for a 60fps patch but I think I will just jump on that now.
Glad about alone in the dark. Bought final shape cheap last month begore theu announced new dlc, knew i should have waited. Nba will just go into library with all of the other sports games lol
Now they got the technology, I would love for them to be able to up res and then implement the live characters from t he old street fighter movie game onto the animations from a normal street fighter 2 or 3 or alpha games, so that it is completely realistic looking. It was the poor quality and capture that made it unplayable back then but they could get it to work now
I actually bought it on sale late last year and only played it recently and actually thought the game was really good, both gameplay and story. If you didn't associate online live sevice (which tou dont have to use) or that its a rock steady game then it would be appreciated much more. If they are moaning about lack of sales then giving it away as part of jan ps plus was never gonna help.
@DennisReynolds that's exactly what he said in the reveal. That ps5 users no longer have to choose between fidelity mode and performance mode as ps5 pro would deliver fidelity mode at 60fps. I have had both systems since day one. I am happy with the system but look at df on nearly every game using pssr, every single game is performance mode enhanced. It may have more than standard performance mode but it is nowhere near the features of quality mode. Hence why we still get ps5 pro quality and performance mode options.
Yes but will we be getting quality mode graphics at 4k 60fps as originally promised. Not performance enhanced modes at 4k 60fps which have less of the bolts and whistles of quality modes and worse draw distance. I would also like the ability for it to upres all ps4 games more even if it can't unlock frame rates. It only sharpens a small amount currently
I just can't get into this game like I did with destiny and things like the division etc. I think the lack of structured story to really test things out and the impossible task of being solo player to try things out, without embarrassing yourself is what put me off
@naruball the issue is that it would need to compromise to run the games and I don't want a series s situation where they starting building to lowest common denominator. If they are going to build a new one then I would say ps4 pro level but then you wouldn't get the latest games unless it streamed. But look at how quickly they would then deactivate the Portal as a device, because they can't have competition within. There is no reason a ps vita or pstv couldn't stream ps5 games but hey they cut that off.
I am happy with ps portal. All I want now is the ability to stream all digital games I own, including ps3, ps4 and ps5 including any dlc I have purchased. Internet getting better all the time and much cheaper option. I don't want to play lower framerates sub 1080. Also Sony is really ***** in the last 20 years at supporting more than one device at a time.
@IssyVeedz thanks for coming back to me. I don't think I can be adding yet another long game to my backlog. Too many similar long games now. I know the quality is there but I just want something quick, exciting and to the point.
Thought it was very good. I don't care about whether games are first party. I just want great games and there was a lot of promising looking games there. The first party games will come. Xbox studio games will come. But having loads of third party games to come and not from the usual suspects. Look at the variety of new games from last year. It's never a better time to be a gamer.
They haven't abandoned it, they have simply renamed it, delayed to next season and keep working on it in the meantime. They make it sound like they have changed focus, but the fact of the matter it's too late in the season to release it
@themcnoisy exactly. I am just at the same point with Outer Worlds. It's classed as a smaller rpg yet I have done main game and frist dlc and I am at 40hrs. I got until 18th before its taken off plus to do second dlc but I think I have had enough. I find myself now constantly going to the how long to beat website to choose next game.
Longest game of recent times has been ac odyssey, still doing the final dlc atlantis and over 200hrs over a year and half amongst other games. Makes me scared to start longer games now like witcher, ac valhala, cyberpunk etc
@Areus using the logic that nearly every project cancelled recently tied to sony are live service games that were in secret development, including shutting down the developers of some, even though their pedigree was in single player experiences, stands to reason that sumo may have been tasked with building a live service mascot game that is now cancelled. Have sony cancelled any single player games on recent years?
@Member_the_game yes we definitely need clarity as it can be read both ways: "As we shift to PS5, PS4 games will no longer be a key benefit and will only be occasionally offered for PlayStation Plus Monthly Games and Game Catalog starting January 2026"
It doesn't say added, it says offered which means available i think.
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Re: Push Square Reader Survey 2025
Why is not buying any new hardware not an option?
Re: PS5's High Price Becoming a Serious Headache for Publishers
@zebric21 actually odyssey took me 200+ hrs including all dlc. I am on the from software run at moment, having done demon souls remake, dark souls remastered, ds2 and now on bloodborne (I held out for a patch that never came). I am currently doing the following games and all are relatively medium to big games:
Bloodborne
Ghost Recon Wildlands
Death Stranding Directors Cut
AC Valhalla
Dead Island 2
However I also have dlc for other games i completed during the year plus racing games that I jump into.
Re: PS5's High Price Becoming a Serious Headache for Publishers
@zebric21 actually thinking about it, this the same for me. I have a spreadsheet of all games from ps3 through to ps5 and vita. And in the 3 years of ps3 [I bought Xmas 2009] and the release of ps4 day 1 in Nov 2013, I completed far more ps3 games and have much less backlog. I think this is due that the ps3 games took a lot less time to complete, weren't as multi player focused and I was childless. However, the ps4 games I have in backlog not including ps plus is around 200. I think this is due to how cheap deals became a thing that I bought more games. I also have loads of triple aaa games in plus for ps4 to as backlog. I think the issue that arose, was the rise of live service games which I am not into but was addicted to destiny and division, and the size of the single player games all becoming a standard 30hrs plus, with a high percentage sitting at 80hrs or more. I dont like starting games and not completing them as I invest into the stories. Then back compatibility with ps5 has not helped, as I just end up getting more ps4 games where normally I would have stopped or massively reduced spend on last gen. I then have the guilt of having bought games and potentially just dropping them to concentrate on ps5 games. Therefore in the last year and half, I have stopped buying games altogether and just focus on backlog or ps plus extra / premium (where games i would have bought have dropped onto and therefore the race to complete before they are removed)
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for September 2025?
I own but haven't yet played either psychonauts so I discount that from the offering for me. However I am interested in viewfinder as it looks an interesting puzzle game
Re: Scratch That Banjo-Kazooie Itch in PS5 Remake Yooka-Replaylee, Out in October
I enjoyed the game but I don't think I could face it again. It was frustrating as hell in some sections. Also the fact that the talking was mumbo jumbo and therefore pointless, I couldn't put up with that again.
Re: Rumour: PS6 Handheld Device Can Be Docked Like Nintendo Switch 2
I thought it was supposed to run ps4 and ps5 games in low power mode, so I would be less interested to play weaker versions of both games on what is essentially a ps5 series s.
If they can nail the cross save to instantly update the saves to main console that would be better for pick up and play. Unless the docking station boosts to a standard ps5 or ps5 pro but then it would be ridiculous money
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for August 2025 Announced
Woopa.... excellent month for me
Re: PS6 Handheld Becomes More Legit with New PS5 Power Save Mode
Anyone want to try the new update?
Not sure what benefit it is for ps5 player but there is four uses here
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Re: Ghost of Yotei PS5 a Similar Length to Ghost of Tsushima, Same Scope
My problem with open world games, is that sometimes there is too much to do in the game. And now that I never buy games when they come out (I have a 200 game backlog including ps3, ps4 and ps5 especially thanks to 15 years of plus), by the time I do get them, they have expansions or free content updates making them even bigger and more overwhelming.
Re: New First-Person Ghost Recon Game Is Real, Ubisoft Confirms
@AverageGamer I wasn't aware about d3 and the mobile game. No interested in latter but definitely would like a new division. Just not sure where they could take it, where it could be iconic like new York or Washington. Unless they take it out of America but would prefer not to be a safe option like London (they didn't do too week with a London watch dogs setting). France would probably work well
Re: Ubisoft Reckons Microtransactions Make Games 'More Fun'
I don't thibk there is anything wrong here, you get massive games full of content. I mean people moan about the ubisoft nature of bloat in games, so why moan about more stuff?
Re: New First-Person Ghost Recon Game Is Real, Ubisoft Confirms
What is the new Division game. I thought heartlands or homelands was cancelled
Re: Dark Souls, Elden Ring Dev May Have Another New Game for 2026
Better not be bloodborne, I think I am either halfway or over through it and don't want a superior version now. I held out long enough for a remaster or patch.
Re: These 13 PS5, PS4 Games Leave PS Plus Extra in August
Had got Wild Hearts downloaded but never got round to playing it. Not overly fussed though as it's always mega cheap if I wanna pick it up and still gpt two monster hunter games to do (rise and world) in back catalogue which i guess are far superior. It's too long to jump in now, as going holiday in a few weeks.
Everyone should play jedi if they haven't already. Very good game let alone very good star wars game.
Re: 10 New PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Announced for July 2025
Definitely something there for me. Banisters and New world
Re: Director of The Last of Us' Axed PS5 Multiplayer to Start New Studio in Japan
Would be very generous of sony to give him Factions 2 and let him change the ip, on condition they get some sort of early exclusivity. A lot of the work is done but it would be at his risk and finance
Re: The Last of Us Part 2's Chronological Update Out Now on PS5, PC, Lets You Play Through the Story in Linear Order
Thank you all. I will deffo do original.
I have no idea how I have owner this since ps4 and now ps5 and still not played it.
Re: The Last of Us Part 2 'Chronological' Update Out Today on PS5, PC, Lets You Play Through the Story in Linear Order
@rusty82 thank you. It's in my next to do
Re: The Last of Us Part 2 'Chronological' Update Out Today on PS5, PC, Lets You Play Through the Story in Linear Order
Not played part 2 yet. Would people recommend playing the old way or the new way?
Would the new way create spoilers for those of us not familiar with the story?
I have kept away from the second tv series for that reason
Re: BioWare Flop ANTHEM Dies January 2026, Servers to Be Turned Off
I enjoyed it when I played back in 2019. Yes it wasn't the best game in the world, but it played great.
Re: These PS5, PS4 Games Are Leaving PS Plus in July
Decisions for me. Start Dying Light 2 or Remnant 2. Both similar in length (add 10 hrs for me as I seem to be slower than the average times). Have not played the originals to these 2. Which should I go for?
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for June 2025?
@Northern_munkey yes but buying a film, boxset doesn't equate to same value
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for June 2025?
I will add people need to be open to trying games on the service. I would never have bought Atlas Fallen, but I have just done 26 hours on it and really enjoyed it for what it is dont know any other industry where I would get 26 hours of entertainment for £13.49 let alone that being for a month with other stuff to still play. Depending on whether they are leaving or not I will likely play dead island 2, dying light 2, remnant 2, sonic frontiers, or returnal next. If not I have plenty of side missions to clean up in like a dragon gaiden, not mention all the arcade games in it to play. I think when you look at it as a whole, and not just what's being added in a month, it's great value.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for June 2025?
Personally nothing that interests me, although I might give deus ex a go (still have not done the ps3 and ps4 games yet so makes sense to do in order).
I got such a backlog of games, so I am more interested in what is leaving ps plus next to see if I need to jump on those games or whether I can tackle some of the purchased games I have wanted to play. Only game i started (other than racing games) that i have yet to complete is ghost recon wildlands. Was holding for a 60fps patch but I think I will just jump on that now.
Re: 6 Bonus PS Plus Extra, Premium Games Confirmed for May, June 2025
Will give skull and bones a go now then
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for June 2025 Announced
Glad about alone in the dark. Bought final shape cheap last month begore theu announced new dlc, knew i should have waited. Nba will just go into library with all of the other sports games lol
Re: New Street Fighter Movie Targeting Jason Momoa, Roman Reigns
Now they got the technology, I would love for them to be able to up res and then implement the live characters from t he old street fighter movie game onto the animations from a normal street fighter 2 or 3 or alpha games, so that it is completely realistic looking.
It was the poor quality and capture that made it unplayable back then but they could get it to work now
Re: Warhammer 40k: Space Marine Remaster Misses Out on PS5 for Some Reason, Exclusive to Xbox and PC
Was expecting the remaster to look a bit better. Not overly impressed with it. I wonder what price they are looking for.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Bombed So Hard, Warner Bros' Games Revenue Still Hasn't Recovered
I actually bought it on sale late last year and only played it recently and actually thought the game was really good, both gameplay and story. If you didn't associate online live sevice (which tou dont have to use) or that its a rock steady game then it would be appreciated much more. If they are moaning about lack of sales then giving it away as part of jan ps plus was never gonna help.
Re: 10 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for May 2025 Announced
Shocking update
Re: Rumour: New PS5 Pro Update Could Give Frame Rates and Resolutions a Massive Boost
@DennisReynolds that's exactly what he said in the reveal. That ps5 users no longer have to choose between fidelity mode and performance mode as ps5 pro would deliver fidelity mode at 60fps.
I have had both systems since day one. I am happy with the system but look at df on nearly every game using pssr, every single game is performance mode enhanced. It may have more than standard performance mode but it is nowhere near the features of quality mode. Hence why we still get ps5 pro quality and performance mode options.
Re: Rumour: New PS5 Pro Update Could Give Frame Rates and Resolutions a Massive Boost
Yes but will we be getting quality mode graphics at 4k 60fps as originally promised. Not performance enhanced modes at 4k 60fps which have less of the bolts and whistles of quality modes and worse draw distance. I would also like the ability for it to upres all ps4 games more even if it can't unlock frame rates. It only sharpens a small amount currently
Re: Helldivers 2 Continues to Be Sony's Most Successful Live Service by a Mile
I just can't get into this game like I did with destiny and things like the division etc. I think the lack of structured story to really test things out and the impossible task of being solo player to try things out, without embarrassing yourself is what put me off
Re: The Sinking City Remastered Out Now in Surprise PS5 Launch
Will it auto download and replace the existing game. It just says owned for on the ps store but no option to download
Re: UK Sales Charts: Expedition 33 Debuts in Second Place, Almost All Sales for PS5 Version
Where oblivion?
Re: Massive PS Plus Clearout Announced for May, 22 Games Leaving
Damn. I need to get on those psvr 2 titles quick time. I wonder if a resistance emastered bundle is incoming
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Portable Capable of Playing PS5 Games at Lower Resolutions
@naruball the issue is that it would need to compromise to run the games and I don't want a series s situation where they starting building to lowest common denominator. If they are going to build a new one then I would say ps4 pro level but then you wouldn't get the latest games unless it streamed. But look at how quickly they would then deactivate the Portal as a device, because they can't have competition within. There is no reason a ps vita or pstv couldn't stream ps5 games but hey they cut that off.
Re: Rumour: New PlayStation Portable Capable of Playing PS5 Games at Lower Resolutions
I am happy with ps portal. All I want now is the ability to stream all digital games I own, including ps3, ps4 and ps5 including any dlc I have purchased. Internet getting better all the time and much cheaper option. I don't want to play lower framerates sub 1080. Also Sony is really ***** in the last 20 years at supporting more than one device at a time.
Re: Upcoming PS5 Action RPG Blades of Fire Has God of War 2018 Vibes in Uncut Gameplay
Really enjoyed the castlevnia lord of shadows games, so I will definitely try this from them
Re: Killzone Remasters Would Be Cool, Says Series Composer, and We Completely Agree
Want both new games and remasters. Where's that option
Re: The First Berserker: Khazan (PS5) - A Fast-Paced Action RPG Held Back by Its Own Bloat
@IssyVeedz thanks for coming back to me. I don't think I can be adding yet another long game to my backlog. Too many similar long games now. I know the quality is there but I just want something quick, exciting and to the point.
Re: The First Berserker: Khazan (PS5) - A Fast-Paced Action RPG Held Back by Its Own Bloat
How long is the game
Re: Just Six Months After Space Marine 2's Launch, Space Marine 3 Has Been Announced
A remaster of the first would be great, even just a frame and resolution boost. It's another game stuck kn ps3
Re: Poll: What Did You Think of Sony's State of Play for February 2025?
Thought it was very good. I don't care about whether games are first party. I just want great games and there was a lot of promising looking games there. The first party games will come. Xbox studio games will come. But having loads of third party games to come and not from the usual suspects. Look at the variety of new games from last year. It's never a better time to be a gamer.
Re: Football Manager 25 Hooked Before Kick Off on PS5
They haven't abandoned it, they have simply renamed it, delayed to next season and keep working on it in the meantime. They make it sound like they have changed focus, but the fact of the matter it's too late in the season to release it
Re: Poll: How Long Does It Take You to Beat a Big RPG?
@themcnoisy exactly. I am just at the same point with Outer Worlds. It's classed as a smaller rpg yet I have done main game and frist dlc and I am at 40hrs. I got until 18th before its taken off plus to do second dlc but I think I have had enough. I find myself now constantly going to the how long to beat website to choose next game.
Re: Poll: How Long Does It Take You to Beat a Big RPG?
Longest game of recent times has been ac odyssey, still doing the final dlc atlantis and over 200hrs over a year and half amongst other games. Makes me scared to start longer games now like witcher, ac valhala, cyberpunk etc
Re: Sackboy Dev Cancels New IP to Focus on Game Production for Partners
@Areus using the logic that nearly every project cancelled recently tied to sony are live service games that were in secret development, including shutting down the developers of some, even though their pedigree was in single player experiences, stands to reason that sumo may have been tasked with building a live service mascot game that is now cancelled.
Have sony cancelled any single player games on recent years?
Re: Sackboy Dev Cancels New IP to Focus on Game Production for Partners
Bet it was another live service game knowing Sony at the moment.
Re: Sony to Mostly Drop PS4 Games from PS Plus Starting January 2026
@Member_the_game yes we definitely need clarity as it can be read both ways:
"As we shift to PS5, PS4 games will no longer be a key benefit and will only be occasionally offered for PlayStation Plus Monthly Games and Game Catalog starting January 2026"
It doesn't say added, it says offered which means available i think.