It's a shame because I think this concept could work. A Stardew Valley/Animal Crossing version of the Shire sounds neat. Unfortunately, the problem with this particular game is that the art direction is hideous.
@Jay767 There's a big difference between a creative risk that doesn't work out (like Sucker Punch's Prophecy and Santa Monica's canceled new IP before GoW 2018) and something batsh*t insane like approving a first-party studio with single-player talent and pedigree doing a live service that goes nowhere and gets canceled after a few years.
Also, I guarantee you some people on this site would have made much better and more sensible financial decisions than PlayStation's top brass this generation.
Even if the studios were never directly "forced" to make live services, it's still a complete failure of management, talent utilization, and foresight on Sony's end to allow these pitches to be approved in the first place. Bluepoint is the prime example of this. How did no one in PlayStation's top brass see that a God of War live service from this talented team with a specific skill set was a bafflingly stupid idea?
Now that most of the big PS4 and PS5 games are on PC, Sony should have Nixxes partner with Bluepoint to remaster stranded PS3 games for PS5 and PC. This makes way more sense than keeping them strictly on PC port duty.
But, knowing modern PlayStation, they probably have Nixxes remastering God of War 2018 for PS5 and PC as I type this.
I wasn't amazed by that trailer shown during the State of Play, but the 11-minute slice of gameplay they released the day after looked fun as hell. It looks mighty promising.
Of course, Xbox shills like Jez Corden and Ryan McCaffrey wrote more copium drivel like this. They've got to find some way to evangelize Microsoft, the company they have shamelessly and unironically proclaimed their deep love for.
I must admit: once I went back and combed through some of the trailers, I found more that I liked than I initially gave this State of Play credit for. Lost Soul Aside, Saros, and Onimusha: Way of the Sword were the big three for me, but Tides of Annihilation, Shinobi: Art of Vengeance, MGS3 Snake Eater remake, The Midnight Walk, and Split Fiction also looked very promising. I also feel really bad about dismissing Darwin's Paradox when I first saw it. I re-watched the trailer the day after the State of Play and it looks really cute and fun. It's like a sillier and more cartoonish version of Inside and Oddworld.
So, again, I think the State of Play was overall kind of mediocre, but there were more highlights than I initially gave it credit for.
If they want to have any shot in hell at being successful, Haven needs to drop the embarrassing "eat the rich, gamer$!!!" crap that Fairgames's trailer had. Hopefully, Raymond and her team have read the room properly and pivoted, or else this thing is screwed.
@ZeD I only ask because the MOBA genre is something I'm completely out of touch with. But I can't imagine kids who aren't already into one of the big MOBAs like League or Dota 2 going for this, especially if there isn't a recognizable IP to hook them in. What kind of demand or neglected niche is Gummy Bears satiating?
I'm genuinely curious: is there some demand from younger audiences for a MOBA that isn't LoL or Dota 2?
Also, good luck to PlayStation and their social media people if this gets revealed. A PlayStation-published MOBA with a cartoonish artstyle will go over REALLY well with their hardcore audience.
Considering the State of Play is more than 40 minutes long, I think there's a decent chance we'll get another 10+ minute DS2 trailer. I want to think PlayStation would like a big headliner like Kojima at the State of Play but I don't know with them these days.
I don't want remakes of the older games because I know they would erase all of the cool visual stuff from the original trilogy in favor of their pretentious one-shot camera nonsense.
My predictions, if this is real:
>Baby Steps
>Days Gone - Remastered
>Death Stranding 2: On the Beach
>Forever Skies
>Hell is Us
>Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
>Midnight Murder Club
>Monster Hunter Wilds
>Sword of the Sea
>Where Winds Meet
I'm not expecting anything from Ghost of Yotei since that will likely be saved for the May presentation.
Even if this does make it to market, why should anyone give a s*** about a new Batman Arkham game when a lot of the people who made the old Arkham games what they are are gone? Even if they got Paul Dini back to write it, I would still be extremely skeptical of it being good.
I thought it was severely underrated when it dropped last year. If you want a Persona-like game without the massive time commitment and fear of missing content, then you might enjoy this.
I loved the initial concept and setting of WiLD, and even some of my non-gaming friends were intrigued by it. However, when I started hearing things like the inclusion of procedural generation and that comment about the map being the size of Europe, that decreased my interest exponentially. It's not a surprise this never came together.
Astro Bot being on these lists at all is incredible, especially when the competition is the usual suspects of Call of Duty, sports games, and cultural juggernauts like GTA V and Hogwarts Legacy.
They replaced this thing's directors due to creative differences not long ago, so I believe this will drop in late 2026 at the earliest. At this point, it wouldn't shock me if this got delayed to 2027.
I hate to say it, but I don't see this working out for them at all. This split release was always a very bad idea to me, but the gap between the two now being almost two months sounds like a major self-inflicted wound to Don't Nod.
@get2sammyb It is, but it's such a gigantic waste of their talent and potential, especially Bluepoint. How long will the skilled and creative people stick around if they get permanently relegated to working on other people's stuff? At that point, it begs the question of why did Sony bother acquiring Bluepoint to begin with other than taking them off the board for other companies.
My biggest concern is that Bend and Bluepoint will be permanently assigned to support work for teams like Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica from now on.
@Oram77 I will be astonished if Bend Studio isn't closed. I don't want them to go, but I can't imagine this iteration of PlayStation sinking more money into them for another five-year development cycle after canceling the game they have spent years working on. Days Gone 2 would have been the far smarter move in hindsight.
I never want to hear again from PlayStation sycophants that this live service initiative still needs to be pursued. How many literal billions of wasted dollars, job losses, studio closures, and wasted time and opportunities will it take to convince people that this was a terrible idea at the beginning and is still one now?
I don't have the words right now to describe my disgust at Bluepoint wasting years working on a God of War live service of all things. Not a new entry in an old franchise. Not a remaster of a classic game. No ports of stranded PS3 games. A GOD OF WAR LIVE SERVICE.
What imbecile at PlayStation thought this was a good idea?
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Re: Warner Bros. Games Closes Multiple Studios, Wonder Woman Cancelled
Wonder Woman getting canceled isn't a surprise to me, but killing Monolith entirely is appalling.
Re: Yakuza Creator's Next Game Will Be Sent to Die As NetEase Implodes
Nagoshi deserves better than this.
Re: Hobbit Life Sim Tales of the Shire Has Been Delayed Again, Now Out in July
It's a shame because I think this concept could work. A Stardew Valley/Animal Crossing version of the Shire sounds neat. Unfortunately, the problem with this particular game is that the art direction is hideous.
Re: PS5 Pro Added to Astro's Playroom in New Update
That new wallpaper and menu icon is 👌👌👌
Re: Yoshida: I Played The Last of Us Online And It Was Great
@Jay767 There's a big difference between a creative risk that doesn't work out (like Sucker Punch's Prophecy and Santa Monica's canceled new IP before GoW 2018) and something batsh*t insane like approving a first-party studio with single-player talent and pedigree doing a live service that goes nowhere and gets canceled after a few years.
Also, I guarantee you some people on this site would have made much better and more sensible financial decisions than PlayStation's top brass this generation.
Re: Yoshida: I Played The Last of Us Online And It Was Great
Even if the studios were never directly "forced" to make live services, it's still a complete failure of management, talent utilization, and foresight on Sony's end to allow these pitches to be approved in the first place. Bluepoint is the prime example of this. How did no one in PlayStation's top brass see that a God of War live service from this talented team with a specific skill set was a bafflingly stupid idea?
Re: Marvel's Spider-Man 2's Performance on PC Has Not Been Amazing
Now that most of the big PS4 and PS5 games are on PC, Sony should have Nixxes partner with Bluepoint to remaster stranded PS3 games for PS5 and PC. This makes way more sense than keeping them strictly on PC port duty.
But, knowing modern PlayStation, they probably have Nixxes remastering God of War 2018 for PS5 and PC as I type this.
Re: Management Sim Classic RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 Takes a Ride on PS5, PS4 in March
I already have it on PC, but RCT3 is a top 10 all-timer for me. I have sunk thousands of hours into it throughout my life.
Re: Expedition 33 Already Putting Its Best Foot Forward for Music Awards
I'll be crushed if this turns out to be disappointing. It looks, sounds, and plays like everything I want modern Final Fantasy to be.
Re: Tides of Annihilation Proving Popular After State of Play Reveal
I wasn't amazed by that trailer shown during the State of Play, but the 11-minute slice of gameplay they released the day after looked fun as hell. It looks mighty promising.
Re: Reaction: Xbox Publishing More Games on PS5 Than Sony Is Not a Gotcha, It's Just a Sign of the Times
Of course, Xbox shills like Jez Corden and Ryan McCaffrey wrote more copium drivel like this. They've got to find some way to evangelize Microsoft, the company they have shamelessly and unironically proclaimed their deep love for.
Re: Poll: What Were Your Favourite PS5 Games from State of Play?
I must admit: once I went back and combed through some of the trailers, I found more that I liked than I initially gave this State of Play credit for. Lost Soul Aside, Saros, and Onimusha: Way of the Sword were the big three for me, but Tides of Annihilation, Shinobi: Art of Vengeance, MGS3 Snake Eater remake, The Midnight Walk, and Split Fiction also looked very promising. I also feel really bad about dismissing Darwin's Paradox when I first saw it. I re-watched the trailer the day after the State of Play and it looks really cute and fun. It's like a sillier and more cartoonish version of Inside and Oddworld.
So, again, I think the State of Play was overall kind of mediocre, but there were more highlights than I initially gave it credit for.
Re: This PS Portal Commercial Is One of the Cutest Things You'll See Today
I love that Astro Bot has become maybe the biggest PS5 mascot.
Re: Rumour: One of Sony's Last PS5 Live Service Games Fairgames Out in 2026
If they want to have any shot in hell at being successful, Haven needs to drop the embarrassing "eat the rich, gamer$!!!" crap that Fairgames's trailer had. Hopefully, Raymond and her team have read the room properly and pivoted, or else this thing is screwed.
Re: 5 More Astro Bot PS5 Levels Coming for Free, First Is Out Today
We have once again been blessed by our lord and savior Astro Bot.
Re: After Astro Bot's Success, Expect More Family Games from PS Studios
huffs on Sly Cooper hopium
Re: Days Gone Remastered Is Real, Out for PS5 This April
We really got Days Gone Remastered before Bloodborne Remastered. Wow.
Re: Saros Is the Next PS5 Exclusive Game from Returnal Dev Housemarque, Coming 2026
Wow, I wasn't expecting Housemarque to be ready this soon. I'm definitely interested to see more.
Re: Rumour: New Bungie Game Targets State of Play Reveal, Out on PS5, PC, and Nintendo Switch
@ZeD I only ask because the MOBA genre is something I'm completely out of touch with. But I can't imagine kids who aren't already into one of the big MOBAs like League or Dota 2 going for this, especially if there isn't a recognizable IP to hook them in. What kind of demand or neglected niche is Gummy Bears satiating?
Re: Rumour: New Bungie Game Targets State of Play Reveal, Out on PS5, PC, and Nintendo Switch
I'm genuinely curious: is there some demand from younger audiences for a MOBA that isn't LoL or Dota 2?
Also, good luck to PlayStation and their social media people if this gets revealed. A PlayStation-published MOBA with a cartoonish artstyle will go over REALLY well with their hardcore audience.
Re: Xbox Game Hellblade 2 Might Be Out for PS5 'Very Soon'
That's alright. Xbox can keep this one.
Re: New Death Stranding 2 Updates and Details Coming Next Month
Considering the State of Play is more than 40 minutes long, I think there's a decent chance we'll get another 10+ minute DS2 trailer. I want to think PlayStation would like a big headliner like Kojima at the State of Play but I don't know with them these days.
Re: Rumour: God of War Is Taking a 'Younger' Kratos Back to Greece
I don't want remakes of the older games because I know they would erase all of the cool visual stuff from the original trilogy in favor of their pretentious one-shot camera nonsense.
Re: All Eyes on Rumoured State of Play Later This Week
My predictions, if this is real:
>Baby Steps
>Days Gone - Remastered
>Death Stranding 2: On the Beach
>Forever Skies
>Hell is Us
>Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater
>Midnight Murder Club
>Monster Hunter Wilds
>Sword of the Sea
>Where Winds Meet
I'm not expecting anything from Ghost of Yotei since that will likely be saved for the May presentation.
Re: Rocksteady Lining Up New Single Player Batman Game After Suicide Squad Disaster, It's Claimed
Even if this does make it to market, why should anyone give a s*** about a new Batman Arkham game when a lot of the people who made the old Arkham games what they are are gone? Even if they got Paul Dini back to write it, I would still be extremely skeptical of it being good.
Re: Xbox, PC Indie Favourite Dungeons of Hinterberg Coming to PS5
I thought it was severely underrated when it dropped last year. If you want a Persona-like game without the massive time commitment and fear of missing content, then you might enjoy this.
Re: Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater Release Date Leaked on PS Store
SNAKE VS. MONKEY!!!
Re: Sackboy Dev Cancels New IP to Focus on Game Production for Partners
@Americansamurai1 The likelihood of that game being canceled (though I suspect it was already) is pretty high.
Re: Backed by Sony for Years, Shuhei Yoshida Explains Why WiLD Was Cancelled
I loved the initial concept and setting of WiLD, and even some of my non-gaming friends were intrigued by it. However, when I started hearing things like the inclusion of procedural generation and that comment about the map being the size of Europe, that decreased my interest exponentially. It's not a surprise this never came together.
Re: Rumour: Xbox's Fable, Killer Instinct, More to Join Forza Horizon 5 on PS5
Fable on PS5 at launch would melt people's brains.
Re: Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii Has Its Own Shanty Anthem
Nothing will ever top the Majima Construction anthem.
Re: Sony to Mostly Drop PS4 Games from PS Plus Starting January 2026
I love paying more for less!
Re: Following Ferocious PC Backlash, PSN Accounts Will Become Optional But Offer In-Game Rewards
This is how it should have been, to begin with. Better super late than never, I guess.
Re: Rumour: God of War Will Tackle Egyptian Mythology in Next Game
"ANUBIS!!! YOU CONSPIRE AGAINST ME!?!?"
Re: PlayStation Reveals Top 20 Most Downloaded PS5 Games of 2024
Astro Bot being on these lists at all is incredible, especially when the competition is the usual suspects of Call of Duty, sports games, and cultural juggernauts like GTA V and Hogwarts Legacy.
Re: Could Wolverine PS5 Launch in 2025? Insomniac Avoids the Question
They replaced this thing's directors due to creative differences not long ago, so I believe this will drop in late 2026 at the earliest. At this point, it wouldn't shock me if this got delayed to 2027.
Re: Celeste Developer Cancels New Game Earthblade
This is a shame. I really like Celeste, and TowerFall Ascension is one of my all-time favorites. I hope they rebound with something killer again soon.
Re: DON'T NOD Delays Half of PS5's Lost Records by One Month
I hate to say it, but I don't see this working out for them at all. This split release was always a very bad idea to me, but the gap between the two now being almost two months sounds like a major self-inflicted wound to Don't Nod.
Re: Days Gone Dev Says It Still Plans to Create 'Cool Sh*t' for PS5 After Live Service Cancellation
@get2sammyb It is, but it's such a gigantic waste of their talent and potential, especially Bluepoint. How long will the skilled and creative people stick around if they get permanently relegated to working on other people's stuff? At that point, it begs the question of why did Sony bother acquiring Bluepoint to begin with other than taking them off the board for other companies.
Re: Days Gone Dev Says It Still Plans to Create 'Cool Sh*t' for PS5 After Live Service Cancellation
My biggest concern is that Bend and Bluepoint will be permanently assigned to support work for teams like Naughty Dog and Sony Santa Monica from now on.
Re: Lists of Sony’s Cancelled Live Service PS5 Games Paint a Worrying Picture
Even then, that list is missing two games:
>that Deviation Games title that imploded and wiped out the studio
>a canceled free-to-play battle royale that was at Firesprite
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
@Oram77 I will be astonished if Bend Studio isn't closed. I don't want them to go, but I can't imagine this iteration of PlayStation sinking more money into them for another five-year development cycle after canceling the game they have spent years working on. Days Gone 2 would have been the far smarter move in hindsight.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
I never want to hear again from PlayStation sycophants that this live service initiative still needs to be pursued. How many literal billions of wasted dollars, job losses, studio closures, and wasted time and opportunities will it take to convince people that this was a terrible idea at the beginning and is still one now?
Re: Sony Cancels Bluepoint, Bend Studio PS5 Games, One Being a Live-Service God of War Title
I don't have the words right now to describe my disgust at Bluepoint wasting years working on a God of War live service of all things. Not a new entry in an old franchise. Not a remaster of a classic game. No ports of stranded PS3 games. A GOD OF WAR LIVE SERVICE.
What imbecile at PlayStation thought this was a good idea?
Re: Rumour: Next State of Play Showcase Set for Next Month
Days Gone Remastered will be the most noteworthy game at this. Calling it now.
Re: Full Until Dawn Movie Trailer Reveals New Time Loop, Out 25th April
God, this looks so ugly and cheap from an aesthetic standpoint. If you told me this was a Tubi original movie, I'd believe it.
Re: Ubisoft Might Relinquish Some of Its IP to a New Venture to Boost Publisher's Value
@UltimateOtaku91 Amen
Re: Ubisoft Might Relinquish Some of Its IP to a New Venture to Boost Publisher's Value
@Keyblade-Dan Ubihard implies I'll actually give a s*** what Tencent and the Guillemot clowns will do.
Re: Ubisoft Might Relinquish Some of Its IP to a New Venture to Boost Publisher's Value
Will the new venture be called Ubisofter?
I'll see myself out.
Re: 11 New Games Are Coming to PS Plus Extra, Premium Next Week
There's nothing for me in the Extra additions this month, but I've always wanted to play Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings. That should be cool.