The game sounds disappointing. I’m playing Skyrim again (only my second playthrough in 14 years!), and it still holds up brilliantly. Yes, it’s missing some quality of life stuff and can be a bit clunky in some regards, but the open world, the deep gameplay, and of course the soundtrack are brilliant. Sounds like Starfield doesn’t move the needle much. I’ll probably play it when it’s deeply discounted.
I bet it’ll be on PS5 as well. I think uptake of the next gen is going to be at least as slow as this gen, and the PS6 is not going to be such a massive leap over PS5 that the game can’t be run on the older hardware.
Great game. Unfortunately the combat is the weakest part, but the writing, quests, and characters are so good that I can forgive it. Will probably give it a whirl on PS5 one day, but am neck deep in Skyrim right now!
Playing Skyrim, which I haven’t played since 2011! Holds up quite well, although obviously some quality of life features that we have now are glaring in their absence. But loving it again. Also Borderlands 3, a new Fl4k playthrough. Man, have I got my money out of that game…must have put 200 hours into it on PS5, and am nearing 120 on PS5!
If they’d released this at a cheaper price, it would sell better. As is, I’ll just wait until it’s on sale. Also, sub par performance on PS5 is inexcusable, when DOOM Eternal runs perfectly smoothly. I know it’s a new version of the engine, but they know how to code for PS5 now.
A subscription to a games library just isn’t for me. I don’t play enough in terms of volume, and the FOMO of losing out on games being delisted make it not worth it. I’d rather buy a game on sale and play it at my own pace and when I want. I can see the appeal for others, but…nah.
Even Essential isn’t good value. Cloud saves and online gaming are things that Sony shouldn’t be charging for, and the “free” monthly games vary wildly in quality (though I’ll admit they’re on a bit of a roll lately).
Looks generic, other than the graphics. They haven’t done a good job of explaining what makes this game special. Considering it’s from one of the minds behind GTA, I would expect something interesting, but I’m just not seeing it.
@GuttyYZ I’m sure a lot of people in the poll, including you and me, can’t afford to play this new and are waiting for a sale. Nothing wrong with that! Sometimes the best game to play is the waiting game.
I’ll be playing this tonight! So much fun with friends. The new weapon attachments sounds like a cool addition! The game is still kinda buggy though, with player and weapon models disappearing.
I hope they don’t jack the price. In general, of course, because it’s a bad idea (especially for digital, which has no associated manufacturing and shipping costs). But also because it will put a huge damper on the goodwill from the fans, who mostly like the changes and improvements they’re bringing to the game.
A few thoughts: firstly, in terms of a “killer app” for PS5 Pro: devs have to be careful to not alienate and piss off the tens of millions of existing base PS5 players by making a game that’s awesome on Pro but pretty crappy on base. That would also potentially sabotage future generations: why would I buy a PS6 when PS6 will come out a few years later and just be the “proper” console to play games on?
Another thought for me: I would only get a PS5 Pro if my base PS5 died (please don’t), BUT I’m excited that, by all appearances, the Pro upgrades will work on my PS6 when I get one (if the world hasn’t ended by then).
@glennthefrog I hope so, too. But I think they will. They could easily have released Gears 1-3 in a collection, but they didn’t do that. I think they’ll milk Master Chief. Still excited we’re getting Halo, but I don’t think Microsoft will be “generous” and sell the collection as a whole.
I’m a fan of the series, but it does need freshening up, and that state of play made it look like Gearbox are doing exactly that with Borderlands 4. Love the new traversal, the overhaul to the loot system, and the summonable vehicle. Yes, some of the tweaks look like they ripped of Destiny, but that’s not a bad thing, based on how that game plays. Now, let’s see if they’ve improved fast travel, saves, and the clunky inventory system…
Will wait for a sale. In terms of the films, the first is a stone cold classic and one of my favourite films of all time, and Last Crusade is great too.
Love the game, but got off the treadmill awhile ago when they started charging for expansions AND season passes. Now to get “all” of the content, you have to spend around $100 a year and that’s just to steep for what I’m getting.
Digital Foundry know their stuff. If they say it’s comparable to PS4, then that’s the case. Switch 2 fans are just in denial. You don’t buy a Nintendo console for its power.
They’re not exactly endearing themselves to their Destiny fanbase, and extraction shooters are pretty niche, so no wonder a lot of people aren’t excited. But it’s Bungie, and they make great shooters, so I’ll give it a shot on a free trial or a beta.
I want to like this, but the fact that PvP is always a part of it and, more importantly, the fact that it sounds like you lose all of your gear if you die makes this likely a pass for me. Will still give it a go for free, but doubt it’s gonna be my next Destiny.
The original trilogy were great games…one of the many reasons I was glad I chose 360 over PS3 back in the day. As long as they include split screen co op for the campaign and horde mode, I’d pick this up. More interested in Master Chief, though, although talk of the collection being incomplete has cooled my enthusiasm.
@YoureTooSlowBro Thanks for reporting this; I was wondering what kind of state the PS5 version was in; all the reporting I’ve read is about the PC version.
That’s why I bought a 2 tb expansion drive for my PS5 on day one: even with the touted compression, I knew games were still going to be big and didn’t want to have to constantly juggle installed games.
I’m a huge Bungie fan, but I’m just not excited about this one. An extraction shooter? Yawn. Say what you want about Destiny 2, but at least it has a variety of game modes and activities. Maybe I’ll be proved wrong, but I don’t think that this will have the appeal or success of Destiny.
I should have known they’d be too greedy to release the complete MCC. But as long as the original trilogy is available, that’s not too bad. But I don’t think they’ll release them individually for $70 each. That’s a bit too greedy.
I thought that Microsoft were encouraged by the sales of those ports? And openly said so? Surely that’s what matters most. And, as mentioned, the upcoming titles (Forza Horizon and Indy) are MUCH bigger titles.
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Re: PS5, PC Live Service Fairgames Is a 'Super Clunky' Cross Between Fortnite and The Division
Just kill it now.
Re: Starfield Should Still Come to PS5 in 2025, and It'll Be in Its Best Shape Yet
The game sounds disappointing. I’m playing Skyrim again (only my second playthrough in 14 years!), and it still holds up brilliantly. Yes, it’s missing some quality of life stuff and can be a bit clunky in some regards, but the open world, the deep gameplay, and of course the soundtrack are brilliant. Sounds like Starfield doesn’t move the needle much. I’ll probably play it when it’s deeply discounted.
Re: Analytics Firm Predicts Paltry Full-Price Sales for DOOM: The Dark Ages on PS5
@AdamNovice In this case, and in many others, I think “engagement” serves as obfuscation.
Re: Helldivers 2's Major New Update Is Proving Wildly Popular on PS5, PC
I play this every week with friends, and these updates are awesome! And at NO EXTRA COST…
Re: PlayStation, Hideo Kojima's Next-Gen Physint Game 'Five or Six' Years Away
I bet it’ll be on PS5 as well. I think uptake of the next gen is going to be at least as slow as this gen, and the PS6 is not going to be such a massive leap over PS5 that the game can’t be run on the older hardware.
Re: Poll: 10 Years Later, What Are Your Thoughts on The Witcher 3?
Great game. Unfortunately the combat is the weakest part, but the writing, quests, and characters are so good that I can forgive it. Will probably give it a whirl on PS5 one day, but am neck deep in Skyrim right now!
Re: Marathon Maker's Morale in Tatters as Art Director Forced to Admit Asset Theft in Ill-Conceived Livestream
This game is going down, bar a miracle.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 581
Playing Skyrim, which I haven’t played since 2011! Holds up quite well, although obviously some quality of life features that we have now are glaring in their absence. But loving it again. Also Borderlands 3, a new Fl4k playthrough. Man, have I got my money out of that game…must have put 200 hours into it on PS5, and am nearing 120 on PS5!
Re: Inquiry Already Underway Over Lacklustre DOOM: The Dark Ages Opening
If they’d released this at a cheaper price, it would sell better. As is, I’ll just wait until it’s on sale. Also, sub par performance on PS5 is inexcusable, when DOOM Eternal runs perfectly smoothly. I know it’s a new version of the engine, but they know how to code for PS5 now.
Re: PS Plus Premium Members Stunned at Dramatic Decline in Quality
A subscription to a games library just isn’t for me. I don’t play enough in terms of volume, and the FOMO of losing out on games being delisted make it not worth it. I’d rather buy a game on sale and play it at my own pace and when I want. I can see the appeal for others, but…nah.
Re: Just 4% of PS5, PS4 Fans Think PS Plus Premium Represents Good Value for Money
Even Essential isn’t good value. Cloud saves and online gaming are things that Sony shouldn’t be charging for, and the “free” monthly games vary wildly in quality (though I’ll admit they’re on a bit of a roll lately).
Re: Sony to Focus on PS5 Engagement, First-Party Showing Greater Financial Discipline
@MrPeanutbutterz I missed out on Motorstorm, but would love to see one on PS5! And WipeOut…a new PS5 instalment would be awesome!
Re: Ex-GTA Boss' PS5 Shooter MindsEye Gets a Tiny Gameplay Trailer, with Launch Just Weeks Away
Looks generic, other than the graphics. They haven’t done a good job of explaining what makes this game special. Considering it’s from one of the minds behind GTA, I would expect something interesting, but I’m just not seeing it.
Re: Poll: Are You Playing DOOM: The Dark Ages?
@GuttyYZ I’m sure a lot of people in the poll, including you and me, can’t afford to play this new and are waiting for a sale. Nothing wrong with that! Sometimes the best game to play is the waiting game.
Re: Capcom Fighting Collection 2 (PS4) - Deep Cuts and Cool Crossovers Make a Strong Combo
@get2sammyb Solo, or…gasp…splitscreen?!
Re: GTA 6's New Release Date Raises Concerns It Might Slip Again Beyond May 2026
I’m only concerned if it screws up other releases by pushing them later. Games are taking too long as it is without arbitrary delays.
Re: Helldivers 2 Continues to Be Sony's Most Successful Live Service by a Mile
I’ll be playing this tonight! So much fun with friends. The new weapon attachments sounds like a cool addition! The game is still kinda buggy though, with player and weapon models disappearing.
Re: Get Silent Hill 2's PS5 Soundtrack on 6 Beautiful Vinyls for $155
I’m waiting for the wax cylinder edition.
Re: Reaction: Game Key PS5 Discs Are a Disgrace, and Sony Should Put a Stop to Them
Seems crazy to go to all the trouble of manufacturing and shipping discs, and then just putting a few MBs on a disc that holds 100 GB.
Re: Could Borderlands 4 Be an $80 PS5 Game? It 'Might' Be
I hope they don’t jack the price. In general, of course, because it’s a bad idea (especially for digital, which has no associated manufacturing and shipping costs). But also because it will put a huge damper on the goodwill from the fans, who mostly like the changes and improvements they’re bringing to the game.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Think of the PS5 Pro, Six Months Later?
A few thoughts: firstly, in terms of a “killer app” for PS5 Pro: devs have to be careful to not alienate and piss off the tens of millions of existing base PS5 players by making a game that’s awesome on Pro but pretty crappy on base. That would also potentially sabotage future generations: why would I buy a PS6 when PS6 will come out a few years later and just be the “proper” console to play games on?
Another thought for me: I would only get a PS5 Pro if my base PS5 died (please don’t), BUT I’m excited that, by all appearances, the Pro upgrades will work on my PS6 when I get one (if the world hasn’t ended by then).
Re: Halo the Final PS5 Holdout of Xbox's Historic Big Three
@glennthefrog I hope so, too. But I think they will. They could easily have released Gears 1-3 in a collection, but they didn’t do that. I think they’ll milk Master Chief. Still excited we’re getting Halo, but I don’t think Microsoft will be “generous” and sell the collection as a whole.
Re: Xbox's Multiformat Move to PS5 Seems to Be Working Out Very Well for Microsoft
Considering all the devs they’ve bought, they bloody well better be the top publisher…
Re: Sony's New State of Play Proves the Value of Deep Dives, Trends on YouTube
I’m a fan of the series, but it does need freshening up, and that state of play made it look like Gearbox are doing exactly that with Borderlands 4. Love the new traversal, the overhaul to the loot system, and the summonable vehicle. Yes, some of the tweaks look like they ripped of Destiny, but that’s not a bad thing, based on how that game plays. Now, let’s see if they’ve improved fast travel, saves, and the clunky inventory system…
Re: Classic Console Themes Return to PS5 from Tomorrow in Latest Firmware Update
This is great, but I’d still rather have functionality that we had on PS4, like unlimited games on the Home Screen and a more robust MP3 player.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Out Today on PS5, Price Revealed
@Kraven Happy Birthday! Mine is on Thursday!
Re: Poll: Are You Playing Indiana Jones and the Great Circle on PS5?
Will wait for a sale. In terms of the films, the first is a stone cold classic and one of my favourite films of all time, and Last Crusade is great too.
Re: PS Plus Price Increase Hits Another Country, Canada Forced to Pay More
@Kidfunkadelic83 Thank you. And dammit! Guess I’m part of the ripped off club!
Re: The Future of Destiny 2 Will Be Revealed Soon, as Bungie Teases The Edge of Fate
Love the game, but got off the treadmill awhile ago when they started charging for expansions AND season passes. Now to get “all” of the content, you have to spend around $100 a year and that’s just to steep for what I’m getting.
Re: Switch 2 Fans Can’t Stand Seeing Nintendo’s New Console Compared to the 12-Year-Old PS4
Digital Foundry know their stuff. If they say it’s comparable to PS4, then that’s the case. Switch 2 fans are just in denial. You don’t buy a Nintendo console for its power.
Re: PS5 Fans Give Bungie's Marathon the Cold Shoulder, 34% Say You'd Have to Pay Them to Play
They’re not exactly endearing themselves to their Destiny fanbase, and extraction shooters are pretty niche, so no wonder a lot of people aren’t excited. But it’s Bungie, and they make great shooters, so I’ll give it a shot on a free trial or a beta.
Re: Bungie's New PS5 Shooter Marathon Grabs September Release Date
I want to like this, but the fact that PvP is always a part of it and, more importantly, the fact that it sounds like you lose all of your gear if you die makes this likely a pass for me. Will still give it a go for free, but doubt it’s gonna be my next Destiny.
Re: Rumour: Gears of War Could Finally Be Revealed for PS5 at the Xbox Showcase
The original trilogy were great games…one of the many reasons I was glad I chose 360 over PS3 back in the day. As long as they include split screen co op for the campaign and horde mode, I’d pick this up. More interested in Master Chief, though, although talk of the collection being incomplete has cooled my enthusiasm.
Re: Void Breaker Is a Breakneck, Fully Destructible FPS Coming to PS5 This Year
Sigh. Another roguelike? Enough with the roguelikes!
Re: The Outer Worlds 2 PS5 Gets a Huge Gameplay Debut Ahead of Summer Unveiling
@KoopaTheGamer Came to say the same thing: the headline is misleading, making it seem like a PS5 version was shown. Gotta get dem clicks!
Re: PS Plus Price Increases Confirmed for 15 Countries by Sony
The eye of Sauron avoiding my home country of Canada for now…
Re: See Future PS5 Games in Xbox Games Showcase This June, Including The Outer Worlds 2
I guess I’ll have to wait for Halo news until June.
Re: RUINER Dev Hands Its New PS5 Game Metal Eden a Demo, Out Now
@YoureTooSlowBro Thanks for reporting this; I was wondering what kind of state the PS5 version was in; all the reporting I’ve read is about the PC version.
Re: Age Ratings Suggest Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and 3 Remasters Heading for PS5
Dear god. More unnecessary remasters? They’ll probably sell very well, sadly. But they save me money…because I don’t buy ‘em!
Re: Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Download Size Is Still Massive on PS5
That’s why I bought a 2 tb expansion drive for my PS5 on day one: even with the touted compression, I knew games were still going to be big and didn’t want to have to constantly juggle installed games.
Re: Bungie Will Reveal Its Next PS5 Game Marathon on 12th April
This seems too niche to appeal to a large audience. And extraction shooters aren’t my thing.But I love Bungie, so we’ll see what they’ve got.
Re: Bungie's Marathon PS5 Game Taking Over PlayStation Social Media Pages
I’m a huge Bungie fan, but I’m just not excited about this one. An extraction shooter? Yawn. Say what you want about Destiny 2, but at least it has a variety of game modes and activities. Maybe I’ll be proved wrong, but I don’t think that this will have the appeal or success of Destiny.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Is Getting a Big New PS5, PS4 Bundle for New Players
@Jrs1 Was wondering the same thing: is this a complete bundle of everything, or just so far?
Re: Open World Mecha Action Sequel Daemon X Machina: Titanic Scion Boosts to PS5 in September
Looks cool, if generic.
Re: Halo Series Might Not Come to PS5 in the Way You're Thinking
@Nepp67 Reach is my favourite, with Combat Evolved a close second.
Re: Sony Stealthily Increases the Size of PS5, PS4's Needlessly Restrictive PS Store Wishlist
Agree with others in the comments: you really need to have more than a hundred games on your wishlist?! That’s WAY more than I’d ever need!
Re: Halo Series Might Not Come to PS5 in the Way You're Thinking
I should have known they’d be too greedy to release the complete MCC. But as long as the original trilogy is available, that’s not too bad. But I don’t think they’ll release them individually for $70 each. That’s a bit too greedy.
Re: Round Up: DOOM: The Dark Ages Previews Hype Up a Slower But Bigger PS5 Prequel
Not sure that I like the emphasis on melee in a shooter, especially Doom.
Re: Analyst Firm Predicts Some Pretty Unimpressive Sales Numbers for Xbox Ports on PS5
I thought that Microsoft were encouraged by the sales of those ports? And openly said so? Surely that’s what matters most. And, as mentioned, the upcoming titles (Forza Horizon and Indy) are MUCH bigger titles.
Re: PS Plus Essential Is Quietly Having a Great Year on PS5, PS4
I must admit, I’ve already scored three games that I was circling, so that’s great for me! Dragon Age and Robocop were real surprises.