@nomither6 Well, remember certainly at the start, there WAS no real first party. Sony started snapping up devs soon after, of course (Psygnosis, etc.) But I’d have to say it was a combination. You had games like Gran Turismo, Crash Bandicoot, and so on, along with great third party games like Tomb Raider and really good fighting game ports (a big deal in the ‘90s) like Street Fighter and Tekken. I think PS1 was successful because it was marketed as a cool gaming platform, AND it was where devs wanted to be due to the voluminous, inexpensive CD format. Sorry for the long response, but I hope that it made sense!
@nomither6 “ outside of mario kart , smash bros and goldeneye - was there any other reason people had a n64 for the most part & wasn’t it seen as a couch-co-op machine ?”
Back in the day, those were basically “forever games” like Fortnight, and they were killer apps to boot. Don’t forget Mario 64. So those were very good reasons to own the console.
It’s all about the dollars, not “empowering creators” or any of that guff. Microsoft haven’t suddenly grown a heart and decided to be generous. If Xbox was selling well, they absolutely would have kept most (if not all) of these games exclusive.
As long as it’s helping artists versus replacing them, that’s fine. I like the idea of AI as a “copilot”, helping out but not doing the work. Also, as long as it’s not outright stealing other artists’ work. Like any tool, AI can be helpful or harmful.
Nice to see Helldivers 2 so high in the charts! Great game. My friends and I still play it weekly for its brilliant mix of white knuckle tension and big laughs.
I mean, that would be really bad if true. But it’s still bad that Sony is chasing the live service dragon, and wasting studios’ precious time by cancelling projects that they’ve spent years on. This generation will see far fewer first party games because of that.
With the time it takes to make ANY game these days, there’s probably little chance that we’ll see anything from Bend or Bluepoint this generation. Unless they had other projects that they were working on that we don’t know about. This live service push, barring Helldivers 2, has been a huge waste of time…as most people suspected from the start.
“If you want new single player games, buy remasters of old games. We need the money!” No. You don’t. You need to rethink budgets and scale and how AAA games are being made. Gamers “investing” in remasters to get new games is a ridiculous idea.
@Airsqueeble I’m sure a new Halo (as well as the MC collection, hopefully) will land on PS5, but yeah…probably not day one. Although that WOULD be a good way to beef up multiplayer numbers.
Diablo 4. Long campaign! Really having fun with it. Interspersing some WRC 9 and COD BLOPS Cold War multiplayer in there for the twitching (it was free on PS Plus). COD fun so far, but what’s with installing the game, and then having to install multiple texture packs?! Then I go back into the game, and campaign hasn’t been installed…and it’s like 200 gigs?! Thank god I have a 2 TB SSD installed in my PS5!
I think consoles represent a mindset. You can argue that it’s easy to set up a PC in your living room now, but nothing will ever beat the plug and play nature of a console. And as long as Sony keeps making consoles backward compatible, gamers can keep their collections while also being able to play the latest and greatest. I personally will keep buying consoles as my means of gaming.
Would rather have the option to have as many games on the Home Screen as I want, rather than just a handful. A stupid downgrade. A more robust music player (like we had on PS4) would be nice too.
The uptake of new consoles is slower than ever for various reasons, including “forever” games (GAAS), smaller technological advances, and backwards compatibility. They’ll need to keep supporting PS5 games well into next gen. I bet there will still be PS4 games released during PS6’s lifetime.
Talk is cheap. Let’s see some games! Resistance, Wipeout, Demolition Derby, G-Police, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper…so many great franchises collecting dust.
@Flaming_Kaiser This is the place to voice my point of view about the article. The only people crying are the people who are defending this unnecessary article. Also, if you “haven’t seen” this game, what rock do you live under? It looked amazing on my PS5 two years ago, and looks maybe slightly better now. So what?
Gonna start Diablo 4 and continue playing Helldivers 2 with friends. Really excited to crack Diablo; I spent a ridiculous number of hours of hours playing D3.
Neither will exit. Sony’s console business is healthy, and Microsoft have the money to burn to stay in the game. Plus they’d lose all of their current console audience if they abandoned the market, if only because current customers would rightly lose their minds if they didn’t have a machine to play their games on in the next generation.
@DennisReynolds No need to be snarky. I did read the article. Hence my comment. The article says “it looks great on PS5 Pro” without offering any substantial new information or explaining why or how. I’m clearly not the only person who feels this way, hence the 24 likes for my comment.
@Deoxyr1bose Exactly. Just like the old “Microsoft Points” currency they had for Xbox. Always sold in totally inconvenient quantities in the hope that you would buy more to top up. Crooked.
They’ll absolutely make another console. They’ve said that they will, and boasted about “the largest generational leap”. Plus, they started as a console and would be leaving existing fans (and their libraries) behind. Lastly, they’re never going to beat Sony, but they’re not going to let them have the high performance console market to themselves.
It was OK, but too small for a Borderlands type game (especially since they charged full price). I’d rather they focus on knocking Borderlands 4 out of the park.
Great update! Really different fighting the new faction. An unfortunate side effect to the surge in popularity is that I got disconnected from three of my four matches last night.
Playing Ghost Recon: Breakpoint’s Conquest Mode…it’s like a whole second campaign after you finish the story! That, and some sweet Helldivers 2 and Gran Turismo 7.
The trophy breakdown page didn’t load correctly. Oh well. Here’s my summary: YojimboSwagger Joined in 2014 332 YOUR PLAY PLAY STYLE IS SHARP SHOOTER Games Played 43 Total Trophies 551 Hours Played 848 Multiplayer Hours 103 MY TOP GAME DESTINY 2 THE DAWNING
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Re: In the US, PS5 Is Selling Much Faster Than PS4 At a Higher Price
@nomither6 Well, remember certainly at the start, there WAS no real first party. Sony started snapping up devs soon after, of course (Psygnosis, etc.) But I’d have to say it was a combination. You had games like Gran Turismo, Crash Bandicoot, and so on, along with great third party games like Tomb Raider and really good fighting game ports (a big deal in the ‘90s) like Street Fighter and Tekken. I think PS1 was successful because it was marketed as a cool gaming platform, AND it was where devs wanted to be due to the voluminous, inexpensive CD format. Sorry for the long response, but I hope that it made sense!
Re: More Dying Light Games Incoming as Series Turns 10
Good! Have to admit, haven’t played the second one but love the first.
Re: In the US, PS5 Is Selling Much Faster Than PS4 At a Higher Price
@johnedwin Absolutely. A healthy number of classic games on that console.
Re: Is Starfield Coming to PS5? 'Keeping Games Off Other Platforms Is Not the Path for Us,' Says Xbox Boss
@HotGoomba Preach!
Re: In the US, PS5 Is Selling Much Faster Than PS4 At a Higher Price
@nomither6 “ outside of mario kart , smash bros and goldeneye - was there any other reason people had a n64 for the most part & wasn’t it seen as a couch-co-op machine ?”
Back in the day, those were basically “forever games” like Fortnight, and they were killer apps to boot. Don’t forget Mario 64. So those were very good reasons to own the console.
Re: Xbox Rips Off the Band Aid, 'Expect Our Games to Show Up in More and More Places'
It’s all about the dollars, not “empowering creators” or any of that guff. Microsoft haven’t suddenly grown a heart and decided to be generous. If Xbox was selling well, they absolutely would have kept most (if not all) of these games exclusive.
Re: Capcom Seems Sold on Using AI to Help Out with Game Development
As long as it’s helping artists versus replacing them, that’s fine. I like the idea of AI as a “copilot”, helping out but not doing the work. Also, as long as it’s not outright stealing other artists’ work. Like any tool, AI can be helpful or harmful.
Re: Ninja Gaiden 2 Black Remasters an Action Classic, Out Now on PS5
Looks cool, but $50? I’ll wait.
Re: DOOM: The Dark Ages Rips and Tears PS5 This May in Biggest Entry Yet
Not sure about the melee/parrying…everything else looks great!
Re: New PS5 Firmware Update Is Coming Today in Phased Release
Re: PlayStation Reveals Top 20 Most Downloaded PS5 Games of 2024
Nice to see Helldivers 2 so high in the charts! Great game. My friends and I still play it weekly for its brilliant mix of white knuckle tension and big laughs.
Re: PS Plus Subscriptions on Sale, Up to 35% Off
Don’t need more than Essential. How about a discount on renewals, like they used to do?
Re: Damning PlayStation Studios Rumour Debunked After Live Service PS5 Game Cancellations
I mean, that would be really bad if true. But it’s still bad that Sony is chasing the live service dragon, and wasting studios’ precious time by cancelling projects that they’ve spent years on. This generation will see far fewer first party games because of that.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Live Service Push Has Been a Disaster of Utterly Insane Proportions
With the time it takes to make ANY game these days, there’s probably little chance that we’ll see anything from Bend or Bluepoint this generation. Unless they had other projects that they were working on that we don’t know about. This live service push, barring Helldivers 2, has been a huge waste of time…as most people suspected from the start.
Re: Shuhei Yoshida: If You Want New First-Party PS5 Games, You Should Support Remasters
“If you want new single player games, buy remasters of old games. We need the money!” No. You don’t. You need to rethink budgets and scale and how AAA games are being made. Gamers “investing” in remasters to get new games is a ridiculous idea.
Re: Switch 2 Reveal Indirectly Adds Credence to Halo PS5 Rumours
@Airsqueeble I’m sure a new Halo (as well as the MC collection, hopefully) will land on PS5, but yeah…probably not day one. Although that WOULD be a good way to beef up multiplayer numbers.
Re: Rumour: Oblivion Remake Isn't Just a Graphics Upgrade, It's a Full Gameplay Overhaul
Skyrim remake coming next…
Re: Major Path of Exile 2 Patch 0.1.1 Releases This Week, Promising Lots of Positive Changes
@djlard Same. Glad I waited on Diablo too. These games need time in the oven before they’re at their best.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 563
Diablo 4. Long campaign! Really having fun with it. Interspersing some WRC 9 and COD BLOPS Cold War multiplayer in there for the twitching (it was free on PS Plus). COD fun so far, but what’s with installing the game, and then having to install multiple texture packs?! Then I go back into the game, and campaign hasn’t been installed…and it’s like 200 gigs?! Thank god I have a 2 TB SSD installed in my PS5!
Re: Rumour: Halo: The Master Chief Collection Coming to PS5 This Year
Day one for the Master Chief Collection. One of the franchises I really miss on PlayStation after switching back post-360.
Re: Horizon Hatred Simmers Once More As Sony Announces Movie Adaptation
Basement dwellers need to touch grass.
Re: Do You Put Your PS5 in Rest Mode or Shut It Down?
I always shut down. Any updates don’t take long anyway, and I’m just old school in terms of “if you’re not using it, turn it off”.
Re: Talking Point: Is PlayStation Right in Saying PC Isn't a 'Major Risk' to Console Business?
I think consoles represent a mindset. You can argue that it’s easy to set up a PC in your living room now, but nothing will ever beat the plug and play nature of a console. And as long as Sony keeps making consoles backward compatible, gamers can keep their collections while also being able to play the latest and greatest. I personally will keep buying consoles as my means of gaming.
Re: PS5's Awesome Welcome Hub Was Designed by a Small, Passionate Team
Would rather have the option to have as many games on the Home Screen as I want, rather than just a handful. A stupid downgrade. A more robust music player (like we had on PS4) would be nice too.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 562
Diablo 4 has its hooks in me!
Re: Consoles Here to Stay, PS5 to Be Supported into Next-Gen, Says PlayStation CEO
The uptake of new consoles is slower than ever for various reasons, including “forever” games (GAAS), smaller technological advances, and backwards compatibility. They’ll need to keep supporting PS5 games well into next gen. I bet there will still be PS4 games released during PS6’s lifetime.
Re: Helldivers 2's Creative Director's Latest Comments Have Landed Him in Hot Water
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Re: Sony Promises It Hasn't Abandoned the Famous Franchises from Its Past
Talk is cheap. Let’s see some games! Resistance, Wipeout, Demolition Derby, G-Police, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper…so many great franchises collecting dust.
Re: Reminder That Horizon Forbidden West Is Simply Stunning on PS5 Pro
@Flaming_Kaiser This is the place to voice my point of view about the article. The only people crying are the people who are defending this unnecessary article. Also, if you “haven’t seen” this game, what rock do you live under? It looked amazing on my PS5 two years ago, and looks maybe slightly better now. So what?
Re: Poll: What Are Your Gaming Plans for the Holidays?
@Haruki_NLI Sorry to hear about your loss. Hope some healing comes your way soon.
Re: Poll: What Are Your Gaming Plans for the Holidays?
@xeofate That’s a great mix!
Re: Poll: What Are Your Gaming Plans for the Holidays?
Gonna start Diablo 4 and continue playing Helldivers 2 with friends. Really excited to crack Diablo; I spent a ridiculous number of hours of hours playing D3.
Re: Industry Analyst Argues Either Sony or Microsoft Will Need to Exit the Console Market
Neither will exit. Sony’s console business is healthy, and Microsoft have the money to burn to stay in the game. Plus they’d lose all of their current console audience if they abandoned the market, if only because current customers would rightly lose their minds if they didn’t have a machine to play their games on in the next generation.
Re: Reminder That Horizon Forbidden West Is Simply Stunning on PS5 Pro
@DennisReynolds Yay, another “squint and you might see a slight difference” trailer, and a PS5 Pro apologist defending it.
Re: Reminder That Horizon Forbidden West Is Simply Stunning on PS5 Pro
@DennisReynolds No need to be snarky. I did read the article. Hence my comment. The article says “it looks great on PS5 Pro” without offering any substantial new information or explaining why or how. I’m clearly not the only person who feels this way, hence the 24 likes for my comment.
Re: Reminder That Horizon Forbidden West Is Simply Stunning on PS5 Pro
Why is there another article about this? I know that news is slowing down, but geez.
Re: Former Bungie Director Chris Barrett Suing Sony for Over $200 Million
He also wanted his old job back. Sure. Maniac.
Re: Helldivers 2 Devs Gift Players Second Wave of Killzone Crossover Content for Free
@Deoxyr1bose Exactly. Just like the old “Microsoft Points” currency they had for Xbox. Always sold in totally inconvenient quantities in the hope that you would buy more to top up. Crooked.
Re: Xbox Is Eager to Build the Best Games You Can Enjoy Everywhere
They’ll absolutely make another console. They’ve said that they will, and boasted about “the largest generational leap”. Plus, they started as a console and would be leaving existing fans (and their libraries) behind. Lastly, they’re never going to beat Sony, but they’re not going to let them have the high performance console market to themselves.
Re: Rumour: The Far Cry Series May Finally Be Switching Things Up in Next Two Games
@themightyant Totally agree. The only time I want a timer in my game is if it’s a racing game. And “survival extraction” shooter? No thanks.
Re: Tina Tina's Wonderlands Sequel Reportedly Delayed Indefinitely
It was OK, but too small for a Borderlands type game (especially since they charged full price). I’d rather they focus on knocking Borderlands 4 out of the park.
Re: PS Plus Members Get Early Access to Select PS5, PS4 Games in PS Store's January Sale
Avatar is tempting, but I’m about to jump into Diablo 4 which I know is going to be addictive!
Re: Sony's Giga Hit Helldivers 2 Blows Up on PS5, PC All Over Again
Great update! Really different fighting the new faction. An unfortunate side effect to the surge in popularity is that I got disconnected from three of my four matches last night.
Re: Video: The Biggest PlayStation Surprises of 2024
@Blauwe_Chimay That game totally took me by surprise. Friends got it for me mor Christmas and I’ve been loving it!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 559
Playing Ghost Recon: Breakpoint’s Conquest Mode…it’s like a whole second campaign after you finish the story! That, and some sweet Helldivers 2 and Gran Turismo 7.
Re: Take a Closer Look at Borderlands 4 on PS5, the 'Most Ambitious Entry' Yet
Looking forward to this one, though two player only couch co-op is a bit of a bummer.
Re: Naughty Dog's New PS5 Game Is Finally Announced, Sci-Fi Action Title Intergalactic
Thank God it’s not more Last of Us! Something new is way more exciting. Looks good, too!
Re: The Outer Worlds 2 Confirmed for PS5, Out Next Year
Yes! Had a blast with the first one. Glad this didn’t become a casualty of the Microsoft buyout.
Re: PlayStation Wrap-Up 2024 Finally Working After Over 24 Hours Offline
The trophy breakdown page didn’t load correctly. Oh well. Here’s my summary:
YojimboSwagger
Joined in 2014
332
YOUR PLAY PLAY STYLE IS
SHARP SHOOTER
Games Played
43
Total Trophies
551
Hours Played
848
Multiplayer Hours
103
MY TOP GAME
DESTINY 2
THE DAWNING
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.2 Announced as CDPR Promises New Features on Fourth Anniversary
Nice! Still need to dive back into the game since the revamp. Loved my first playthrough in 2022!