Use it or lose it, folks. So many hypocrites crying about the end of physical media and yet over two thirds of sales are now digital. What did you think would happen? It is just as much your fault as it is anyone else's. See also: people who cry about the death of the high street whilst ordering everything off Amazon.
Does it? This game is softcore porn. Always was. Its target market is people who used to watch Baywatch with one hand. Just because it has tried to be something else in recent years does not mean that it succeeded or that we are losing something from its failure when we already have so many better fighters out there.
@wildcat_kickz Yeah, i accept that. But i fail to see how i am wrong when Marathon in its prime has failed to even come close to Destiny 2's twilight years. Still the wrong horse.
I'm sorry, but they are talking absolute sh-t.
Destiny 2 did not fall short of expectations. Right up until the end its player count was eclipsing that of Marathon.
Either Sony or Bungie needs to admit the truth: they backed the wrong horse. All of this money, all of this time, should have been spent on Destiny 3, not Marathon.
Naughty Dog better release a banger of a game because they are pissing away a lot of their good will. Rockstar can get away with a development cycle of eons because GTA5 has never stopped being popular. ND can not.
I was going to say that it seems like a mistake releasing such niche games but the more I think about it, the more it seems like genius. Statistically, kids do not buy new games. They are the ones playing Fortnite and COD to death. It is us oldies who still have a collection of single player games and we are still good part of the market. It may be the future to re-release the past.
@wildcat_kickz "The rest of us" is not the group that you personally are in though, no matter how much you may want it to be.
The player numbers for a flagship Bungee product meant to replace Destiny 2 are pathetic. It is not Concord, but it is not a success either. Sorry about that.
So, its a cross between Hitman and Uncharted?
Does not sound much like any James Bond film or book that i've seen.
What it sounds like is what I was afraid of: generic action man with a coat of James Bond paint. Not impressed.
@Northern_munkey Go and watch Yongyea on YouTube. He has video after video detailing the slow death of Marathon in terms of both player count and money wasted.
We get if you love the game. And that is perfectly fine. But to say that a website that waited a whole month to review Marathon is now running negative spin stories is fantasy.
Graphical updates are just a little sad nowadays. Its a bit clearer with a bit of extra lighting. And no doubt requires a thousand quid telly to get the most out of it. I was spoilt by the days that graphics were exciting. We will never experience a thrill like seeing MGS2 for the first time ever again.
@rjejr Your point about "Adding a story" does make me wonder.
The world has changed so much since this story was in its infancy - namely Trump and AI.
Maybe they felt like the story they had ready to go already felt a bit dated and it needed a rewrite? I dunno, just thinking. But a game releasing in 2026 with a narrative set in the Biden-era just is not going to work imo.
@Northern_munkey He/she is just virtue signalling. We all know that the people who dislike this game for odd reasons are odd, we do not need to talk about it again.
@Sakai Indeed. Whilst I would be willing to bet that it was once top of that list, it is still a fierce contender for the crown. The Battlefield resurgence also seems to be exaggerated despite the loud hype a few months back.
@get2sammyb It is the sunk cost fallacy in action.
If you have spent ten years getting good at your game, buying skins, making friends etc. why would you ever start something fresh from day one? (Is how these people think, not me.)
MMO's have this problem too. Only theirs is called "Warcraft".
@TheDarts There are many kinds of "forced". Not all sales are as willing as they seem. Go and watch the film "Wall Street". In fact, everyone should watch the film "Wall Street" before they try defending a corpo.
A story as old as time:
Corpo buys something successful.
Corpo gets bored.
Corpo runs away.
That successful thing goes under.
No comeuppance for corpo.
Life goes on.
Repeat.
@PneumaPilot Feel like giving us some examples of these games that you are currently playing that are better than any game ever made in the last 48 years? Or was that just hyperbole?
Yeah, great, really impressive.
How about some gameplay? How about some performance details? How about a release date?
Naughty Dog could run for office with such a talent for so saying much and yet nothing at all.
I feel sorry for kids today. All they have to get excited for is a slightly clearer blade of grass after buying an £800 ''Pro'' console.
Do you know what was actually ''Pro''? Going from the PS1 to the PS2. Going from the top down GTA2 to the fully 3D GTA3. Going from MGS1 to MGS2 and seeing an ice cube melt in real time.
And Sony wonders why there is no enthusiasm for the PS6.
Marathon was not a Concord level failure, but it is indeed a failure. The best metric of all in 2026 is not player numbers, it is streaming numbers. Who is getting rich off the back of these games? How many people are tuning in? And as someone who watches a LOT of both Twitch and Youtube, I can tell you first hand that Marathon is barely a drop in the ocean right now.
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Re: PlayStation's Plan to Kill Physical Games Has Spawned Not One But Many Online Petitions
@ThePlaystationStan I cannot think of anything more narcissistic than liking your own comment.
Re: PlayStation's Plan to Kill Physical Games Has Spawned Not One But Many Online Petitions
Use it or lose it, folks.
So many hypocrites crying about the end of physical media and yet over two thirds of sales are now digital. What did you think would happen? It is just as much your fault as it is anyone else's.
See also: people who cry about the death of the high street whilst ordering everything off Amazon.
Re: GTA 6 Is the PS5's Number One Game in Every Country on the Planet
Holy s-t though, just imagine the atomic bomb that'll go off on the internet if this game turns out to be crap lol.
Re: Price Hiked PS5 Endures Sony's Worst May in Over 25 Years
This is the first console generation in history in which you got a better deal at launch. What a mess.
Re: Mini Review: Dead or Alive 6: Last Round (PS5) - Dead on Arrival
"Dead or Alive deserves better"
Does it? This game is softcore porn. Always was. Its target market is people who used to watch Baywatch with one hand. Just because it has tried to be something else in recent years does not mean that it succeeded or that we are losing something from its failure when we already have so many better fighters out there.
Re: Bungie Confirms Studio Layoffs After Destiny 2 Content Ends
@wildcat_kickz Yeah, i accept that. But i fail to see how i am wrong when Marathon in its prime has failed to even come close to Destiny 2's twilight years.
Still the wrong horse.
Re: Bungie Confirms Studio Layoffs After Destiny 2 Content Ends
I'm sorry, but they are talking absolute sh-t.
Destiny 2 did not fall short of expectations. Right up until the end its player count was eclipsing that of Marathon.
Either Sony or Bungie needs to admit the truth: they backed the wrong horse. All of this money, all of this time, should have been spent on Destiny 3, not Marathon.
Re: PS5 Adds Custom GTA 6 Start-Up Screen, Sony Rebrands PS App as Pre-Orders Go Live
@SavoyPrime It is a pretty vulgar image too. I know that makes me sound prudish, but not all of us want to see a hooker with her tongue out.
Re: PS5 Adds Custom GTA 6 Start-Up Screen, Sony Rebrands PS App as Pre-Orders Go Live
@JAMes-BroWWWn If Naughty Dog actually bothered to put out some games maybe they would get the same treatment.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Will Win Awards for These Outstanding Accessibility and Difficulty Options
This will be one easy game to platinum.
Re: The Last of Us 2 Is Finally Getting Multiplayer, But Naughty Dog Ain't Making It
Naughty Dog better release a banger of a game because they are pissing away a lot of their good will.
Rockstar can get away with a development cycle of eons because GTA5 has never stopped being popular. ND can not.
Re: These 13 Retro Games Are All Getting Revived for the PS5
I was going to say that it seems like a mistake releasing such niche games but the more I think about it, the more it seems like genius.
Statistically, kids do not buy new games. They are the ones playing Fortnite and COD to death. It is us oldies who still have a collection of single player games and we are still good part of the market. It may be the future to re-release the past.
Re: This Business Is Observing a Day Off for GTA 6 Launch, and It Won't Be the Only One
Ridiculous. No wonder we have a productivity crisis in this country. I bet this won't happen in places like China.
Re: How About a New PS5 SSD Upgrade? That'll Be $3,000
Just... uninstall your games...
Re: Starfield Patch Promises to Fix Its Biggest Crashing Issue on PS5, Two Months After Launch
Too many people let Bethesda get away with releasing crap for too long. It is as simple as that.
Fallout 76 and Starfield is the audience wising up.
Re: 'AI Can Help Our Team Get to the Right Answers Faster': Tomb Raider PS5's Controversy Explained
Get used to it, kids. AI is here to stay. It's faster, it's easier, it's cheaper.
Re: Ubisoft Shutting Multiple Studios, as the News Just Keeps Getting Worse
Oh look, more evidence that we are in the second crash.
Re: PS5 Store's Shovelware Purge Is Getting More Interesting by the Week
Of course this is good news.
But it also should not have taken this long to reach this point either.
Re: Live Service MMO Horizon Steel Frontiers Delayed Until 2027
Horizon is nowhere near as popular as Sony seems to think that it is.
Re: Hands On: Marathon's New Season Is Impressive, But Probably Not Enough
@ZeroRows Those who love the game are considerably less than those who don't. Sorry but please face facts. Push Square is simply reporting the truth.
Re: Hands On: Marathon's New Season Is Impressive, But Probably Not Enough
I predict that in a couple of months time Destiny will uncancel itself.
Re: Sound the Alarm: Tomb Raider: Legacy of Atlantis Partially Developed Using AI
People will whine and moan and cry... and then buy it anyway.
The devs know that you will too.
Re: Hands On: Civ 7's Big Free PS5 Update Feels Like a Soft Relaunch
If they've rolled back basically everything that made this game unique, why play this over Civ 6 to begin with?
Re: Wuthering Waves' Cyberpunk: Edgerunners Collab Looks Stunning
Ironically, I feel as if Johnny Silverhand would not approve.
Re: Bungie's Maligned Shooter Marathon Goes Free-to-Play for a Full Week on PS5
@wildcat_kickz Anazing. Literally everything that you said was a lie. Just incredible.
Re: Bungie's Maligned Shooter Marathon Goes Free-to-Play for a Full Week on PS5
@wildcat_kickz "The rest of us" is not the group that you personally are in though, no matter how much you may want it to be.
The player numbers for a flagship Bungee product meant to replace Destiny 2 are pathetic. It is not Concord, but it is not a success either. Sorry about that.
Re: Can Season 2 Turn Bungie's Marathon Around?
Destiny died for this.
Re: Review in Progress: 007 First Light (PS5) - James Bond's Origin Adventure Is Highly Entertaining
So, its a cross between Hitman and Uncharted?
Does not sound much like any James Bond film or book that i've seen.
What it sounds like is what I was afraid of: generic action man with a coat of James Bond paint. Not impressed.
Re: 'Absurd': Social Media Misquotes Journalist, Erroneously Claims Sony Is Angry at Naughty Dog
I suspect Sony probably are unhappy with the glacial pace of Naughty Dog tbh.
Re: Bungie Is Not Making Destiny 3, Dev to Be Rocked by 'Significant' Layoffs
@Northern_munkey Go and watch Yongyea on YouTube. He has video after video detailing the slow death of Marathon in terms of both player count and money wasted.
We get if you love the game. And that is perfectly fine. But to say that a website that waited a whole month to review Marathon is now running negative spin stories is fantasy.
Re: Sony to Show Latest State of Play in Theatres for First Time Since 2018
@DzarkGaz Huh. Good point.
Re: Sony to Show Latest State of Play in Theatres for First Time Since 2018
Lol. Imagine spending money to watch someone announce a few games. Touch some grass, much?
Re: We Have to Talk About Live Service, After Heavy Rain Dev's Online Gambit Is Scrapped
Everyone chasing that mythical pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
Re: 'It's a Clear Upgrade': Why 007 First Light Will Look and Play Best on PS5 Pro
Graphical updates are just a little sad nowadays. Its a bit clearer with a bit of extra lighting. And no doubt requires a thousand quid telly to get the most out of it.
I was spoilt by the days that graphics were exciting. We will never experience a thrill like seeing MGS2 for the first time ever again.
Re: 'It Should Be Free to Play Online Games': PS Plus Price Squeeze Taken to Task by PS5 Owners
It really is not that much extra, bro.
Did you buy a coffee today? You managed that just fine, I see.
Re: GTA 6 Originally Meant to Launch 18 Months Ago, But We're Still Waiting for Trailer 3 and Pre-Orders
@rjejr Your point about "Adding a story" does make me wonder.
The world has changed so much since this story was in its infancy - namely Trump and AI.
Maybe they felt like the story they had ready to go already felt a bit dated and it needed a rewrite? I dunno, just thinking. But a game releasing in 2026 with a narrative set in the Biden-era just is not going to work imo.
Re: Mixtape Isn't Going Anywhere, Won't Be Delisted Over Music Licenses
@Northern_munkey He/she is just virtue signalling. We all know that the people who dislike this game for odd reasons are odd, we do not need to talk about it again.
Re: PS5's New Weekly Player Tracker Has Revealed Some Brutal Truths for Fans
@Sakai Indeed. Whilst I would be willing to bet that it was once top of that list, it is still a fierce contender for the crown.
The Battlefield resurgence also seems to be exaggerated despite the loud hype a few months back.
Re: PS5's New Weekly Player Tracker Has Revealed Some Brutal Truths for Fans
@get2sammyb It is the sunk cost fallacy in action.
If you have spent ten years getting good at your game, buying skins, making friends etc. why would you ever start something fresh from day one? (Is how these people think, not me.)
MMO's have this problem too. Only theirs is called "Warcraft".
Re: Strong Opinions on 007 First Light's Younger James Bond? 'That's Great', Says Dev
I can I answer a poll for a game that has not yet come out?
Re: PlayStation Shutting Something Else Down, But It's Not a Studio This Time
@TheDarts There are many kinds of "forced". Not all sales are as willing as they seem.
Go and watch the film "Wall Street". In fact, everyone should watch the film "Wall Street" before they try defending a corpo.
Re: PlayStation Shutting Something Else Down, But It's Not a Studio This Time
A story as old as time:
Corpo buys something successful.
Corpo gets bored.
Corpo runs away.
That successful thing goes under.
No comeuppance for corpo.
Life goes on.
Repeat.
Re: Of Course There's Already a New GTA 6 Pre-Orders Conspiracy Theory
These people are the personification of "go and touch some grass".
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for May 2026 Announced
Outlaws had "PS Plus" written all over it from day 1. Glad I waited.
Re: PS5 Boss Says He's Seen the Future of Gaming, and It's 'Unbelievably Positive'
@PneumaPilot Feel like giving us some examples of these games that you are currently playing that are better than any game ever made in the last 48 years? Or was that just hyperbole?
Re: No One Noticed Intergalactic's Hidden Naughty Dog Easter Egg
Yeah, great, really impressive.
How about some gameplay? How about some performance details? How about a release date?
Naughty Dog could run for office with such a talent for so saying much and yet nothing at all.
Re: How Rockstar Squeezed a Whole City into Your PS2
I feel sorry for kids today. All they have to get excited for is a slightly clearer blade of grass after buying an £800 ''Pro'' console.
Do you know what was actually ''Pro''? Going from the PS1 to the PS2. Going from the top down GTA2 to the fully 3D GTA3. Going from MGS1 to MGS2 and seeing an ice cube melt in real time.
And Sony wonders why there is no enthusiasm for the PS6.
Re: GTA 6 Fans Are Going Gaga Waiting for New Trailer, Believe PS5 Pre-Orders Could Start Next Week
Imagine if after all of this time GTA6 turns out to be crap lol.
Re: Is Bungie Sony's Worst Ever Acquisition After $765 Million Write-Down?
Imo, your poll is missing an "All Of The Above" option.
Re: Is Bungie Sony's Worst Ever Acquisition After $765 Million Write-Down?
Marathon was not a Concord level failure, but it is indeed a failure.
The best metric of all in 2026 is not player numbers, it is streaming numbers. Who is getting rich off the back of these games? How many people are tuning in? And as someone who watches a LOT of both Twitch and Youtube, I can tell you first hand that Marathon is barely a drop in the ocean right now.