I mean, 4 jobs for each character is good enough isn't it? Look at Cloud, if you could fit his character in classes he would be either a warrior, a black mage, a red mage or a mystic knight
Well yeah, because social media backlash doesn't show on spreadsheets. Want to make your voice heard? You should hurt them in a way it would show on spreadsheets, like pre-ordering GOWL and refunding it.
>A future that's practically all-digital has been inevitable for a long time
Except it isn't inevitable, if Sony can make a turntable for a market that isn't as expressive as streaming in the music industry then they sure as hell can continue their strategy of an optional disc drive for those who want a physical option. While at that, they also could license to third parties the whole disc manufacturing, authentication and distribution proccess.
@AhmadSumadi Paramount not Sony. And its not really that different given if Sonic movie floped it would costed Paramount at least double of what they invested on said movie. But they heard the fans, reached a middle ground and now they have a franchise worth some billions on their hands.
Sony already had the middle ground with the current hardware model they are using for PS5, where you have the choice of opting for a full digital console or one with a disc drive. As for the discs, they could have licensed the disc authentication, printing and distribution process to other companies around the globe.
@Grumblevolcano The announcement was planned way before the whole physical media fiasco.
But suppose the theory is true, I don't think Sony planned this much ahead, given they also effe'd up a lot of other stuff and this announcement doesn't move the needle in their favor one bit.
So, this, P4 and Fable release in the same window... Well, now we just need Capcom to confirm Code Veronica release date, I have a feeling it will be around the same time too.
I mean, I was going to buy Metaphor on PS Store during this sale but ended up buying it on Steam because I didn't feel like giving money to Sony, especially when they are charging you more than other stores just because.
@themightyant I'd say this change would've been welcome next gen if Sony addressed the elephant in the room which is how they are going to transition into digital.
But instead they chose to go "We're going digital and we're not going to explain anything. Screw you and have a bad day."
I can't see this working without going to the original Xbox One vision of an always online DRM, and if that's true then Helix is even more DOA than it was before.
@UltimateOtaku91 Nah, they chose a weird hill to die on, they won't come back from that, at least not right now.
This whole thing could've been handled better, like way better. But they went like "We'll stop making physical games, it will be all digital and you'll like it"
The whole PR team should've been fired at least five years ago.
I think I've said this before, but Sony going all digital doesn't affect me at all, however it is quite sad that we as consumers are losing another way to choose how we wanna play or interact with a product. Not only that but there's no side benefit to us, neither the price of hardware nor the price of software will go down.
Hey, some "good" news. "Good" cuz my wallet will still cry given I'll grab Control and Wolverine, maybe Blood of the Dawnwalker too.
@AdamNovice I'd say GKC is a mix between digital and physical, mostly because Switch 2 main target is the japanese crowd and they do love their collection.
Which also makes me question: if Sony goes forward with this stupid decision will the JP locked PS6 still have a disc drive?
Sure, when its a good product and not another one in the shelf. Case in point, look at HD2 and GT7, or look at Capcom with SF6 and Monster Hunter.
Companies forget that live service does not always mean "ALWAYS ONLINE SHOOTER GAME WITH BATTLEPASS", but rather it can be a game with an online multiplayer mode and rolling content delivery.
The problem with PS5 hardware isn't just the price but the form factor too. A form factor that puts the japanese market first works for the rest of the world, but you can't say the same for a form factor that does the opposite.
PS1 and PS2 sold because it was a form factor that thought about the japanese market first, they were small and could fit in your living room without any problems, and yes, even the fat models were small when compared to PS5.
idk what the problem with Shinobi was, but for Crossroads it was the price. People liked the demo, but avoided the game once the $70 tag was revealed because they didn't feel it was a game worth that value.
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Re: Final Fantasy 7 Revelation's Surprise Job System Keeps Things Simple with Just Four Jobs Per Character
I mean, 4 jobs for each character is good enough isn't it?
Look at Cloud, if you could fit his character in classes he would be either a warrior, a black mage, a red mage or a mystic knight
Re: Sony's Spider-Man Games Enjoy Player Boost on Back of Brand New Day's Box Office Success
Well, I would love to play SM2 again, but my OCD compels me to wait two more years before touching that game again.
Re: 'We Are Not Seeing Any Impact on Our Business': Sony Says Physical Disc Backlash Is Having Zero Effect
Well yeah, because social media backlash doesn't show on spreadsheets.
Want to make your voice heard? You should hurt them in a way it would show on spreadsheets, like pre-ordering GOWL and refunding it.
Re: Sony Knows How You Feel About No More Discs, But It's Not Going to Reverse Course
If they aren't going to change course then neither will the consumer, hope they are prepared for a launch worst than PS3.
Re: Early Data Suggests Unspectacular Start for Halo on PS5
@somnambulance Its 343 studios, not only I wanna see layoffs happening I wish for it every time I hear the word Halo.
Yeah, thats how much I hate 343 for ruining the franchise.
Re: Early Data Suggests Unspectacular Start for Halo on PS5
Well, for me it wasnt worth the price, I'll wait for a sale or something.
Also I've played Halo so many times I doubt I am missing anything
@ElPenitente
Just dump the disc content as a backup copy, problem solved
Re: Mini Review: Avatar Legends: The Fighting Game (PS5) - Solid Foundation Bending to Greatness
>Solid foundation bending to greatness
Thats what she said
Re: This Revelation Should Terrify All Console Fans, Particularly Those Looking Forward to PS6
I mean, thats no surprise, Xbox hardware was always a loss leader
Also, wasnt this gen the first one where both manufacturers went with "screw you no subsidized console this time" since the beggining?
Re: Amidst Sony's Disc Debacle, Capcom Sales Data Is a Brutal Reality Check for Fans of Physical Media
>A future that's practically all-digital has been inevitable for a long time
Except it isn't inevitable, if Sony can make a turntable for a market that isn't as expressive as streaming in the music industry then they sure as hell can continue their strategy of an optional disc drive for those who want a physical option.
While at that, they also could license to third parties the whole disc manufacturing, authentication and distribution proccess.
Re: GTA 6 Region Locks Raise More Questions About PSN's Flaky Infrastructure
@LordOfTurnips
Mostly language and culture being way too different from the rest of LATAM.
Also, Brazil has the size of a continent basically.
Re: Final Fantasy 6 Remake Would Have to Be '4 or 5' Games, Suggests Series Producer
How about no?
Dragon Quest team didn't need a 2~3 part game for their remakes why does the FF team think they need that?
Re: Rumour: 'Really Ambitious' Open World Far Cry Game Enters Development as Ubisoft Kills Series' Extraction Shooter
>Open world game from Ubisoft
How original.
>Its Far Cry
Daring today aren't we?
Re: Sorry, Dragon Age Fans, Don't Expect Another One Anytime Soon
Have they tried to make a game instead of making a political point? That might've worked well in their favor y'know...
Meanwhile, there is a new mod for BG3 that makes it play just like Dragon Age.
Re: 'The Way It Was Meant to Be Heard': Tone-Deaf Sony Pushes Vinyl Turntable After Killing Physical Games
"Its not the same thing, vinyl has been on the rise for a while"
Say, is the rise big enough to overturn the digital music space or is the split lower than 80/20? Because last time I checked it was lower than 20%.
Re: Angry PlayStation Fans Propose PS5 Blackout in Protest of Sony's Disc Decision
@AhmadSumadi
Paramount not Sony.
And its not really that different given if Sonic movie floped it would costed Paramount at least double of what they invested on said movie. But they heard the fans, reached a middle ground and now they have a franchise worth some billions on their hands.
Sony already had the middle ground with the current hardware model they are using for PS5, where you have the choice of opting for a full digital console or one with a disc drive. As for the discs, they could have licensed the disc authentication, printing and distribution process to other companies around the globe.
Re: Angry PlayStation Fans Propose PS5 Blackout in Protest of Sony's Disc Decision
Won't move the needle, but if you really want to hurt them bad, just pre-order a Sony game and cancel it a couple of hours later.
Re: PS5's Next Big Exclusive Dated, and It's Closer Than You Think
@Grumblevolcano
The announcement was planned way before the whole physical media fiasco.
But suppose the theory is true, I don't think Sony planned this much ahead, given they also effe'd up a lot of other stuff and this announcement doesn't move the needle in their favor one bit.
Re: PS5's Next Big Exclusive Dated, and It's Closer Than You Think
So, this, P4 and Fable release in the same window...
Well, now we just need Capcom to confirm Code Veronica release date, I have a feeling it will be around the same time too.
Re: PSN Down for 6+ Hours, PS Store Still Being Repaired
@Dogbreath
"I guess now we find out who goes to work, and who is still at school!"
Guess timezones and the internet aren't a thing on whatever backwater country you live in.
Re: GTA 6's Physical PS5 Download Codes Expire After Just 170 Days in Japan
Weird because I'm pretty sure Nintendo also sell game keys on JP and I've never heard about this issue.
@Zuljaras
Sony also has a JP only PS5 if I'm not mistaken.
Re: PSN Down for 4+ Hours, Sony 'Working to Resolve Issues'
@Rich33
It does add flexibility, which is great.
As for saving money... idk boss, Sony hardware isn't known for great hardware deals on that side.
Re: PSN Down for 4+ Hours, Sony 'Working to Resolve Issues'
Well, here's a nice argument against the all digital future they were so proud of.
And on the open beta weekend for their Q3 major release too.
Re: 'A Digital Shift Is Crucial': SEGA to Prioritise Digital Sales, But Won't 'Completely Abandon' Physical
Love how he talks as if digital sales is something new and not something that has been a thing for at least two decades or so.
Re: Sony Imposes 'Strictest Ever Social Media Guidelines' on Staff Due to PS5 Disc Debacle
@nyr2k2
"They don't care if there are a million people out there that boycott the brand moving forward--they'll make it up, and then some."
I've heard that one before with PS3, they spent an entire generation chasing after the damage.
Re: Sony Imposes 'Strictest Ever Social Media Guidelines' on Staff Due to PS5 Disc Debacle
Ok, so basically they had no plan besides announcing they would stop making physical media.
FFS, just fire everyone who thought this was good idea, the damage they did to the brand is becoming irreversible at this point.
Re: Wolverine PS5 Trailer Quietly Confirms Another Major Villain
Man, I do not like this design at all, the nails look too short.
Re: Irate PlayStation Fans Want You to Buy Games Anywhere But PS5
I mean, I was going to buy Metaphor on PS Store during this sale but ended up buying it on Steam because I didn't feel like giving money to Sony, especially when they are charging you more than other stores just because.
Re: Sony Also Taking Pelters for Locking Crunchyroll's Store Behind a Subscription
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Re: 'Millions of Gamers Value True Ownership': PS5, PS4 Represented Half of All UK Physical Game Revenue in 2025
@themightyant
I'd say this change would've been welcome next gen if Sony addressed the elephant in the room which is how they are going to transition into digital.
But instead they chose to go "We're going digital and we're not going to explain anything. Screw you and have a bad day."
Re: PS5's Physical Disc Debacle Will Attract More Anger if This Xbox Rumour Is True
I can't see this working without going to the original Xbox One vision of an always online DRM, and if that's true then Helix is even more DOA than it was before.
Re: God of War Laufey, Wolverine Reveals Locked in for Comic-Con Panels
The comments section are more interesting than the news
Also, hope they bring extra security because they'll need it.
Re: 'A Little More Fitting for the World We Live in Now': Persona 4 Revival Rethinks Key Character Yosuke
On one hand: its censorship
On the other hand: a prime opportunity to later sell us an uncensored P4 Golden Revival version.
Re: 'They Wait for This Storm to Pass': No Chance of Sony Walking Back Its Decision to Kill Discs, Warns Analyst
@SeverTheWicked
Not really a layoff, they are being trained to handle the shiny new machines that will make microlenses or something like that.
Re: 'They Wait for This Storm to Pass': No Chance of Sony Walking Back Its Decision to Kill Discs, Warns Analyst
Like I said, the problem isn't Sony going full digital but rather how they decided to do it and how they decided to announce it.
They just went "We are going digital, it will be good for you. Also screw you and your collection".
Re: Assassin's Creed: Black Flag Resynced (PS5) - Swashbuckling Classic Restored with Love and Respect
@MrPeanutbutterz
Well, its an issue because in case of a server failure/shutdown your physical media is rendered useless.
Its not really a problem given there are solutions, less savory ones but they exist.
Re: PlayStation's First Post Since Physical Games Debacle Draws 57k Replies
@dskatter
They won't, at least not until they see a tangible loss in revenue.
Re: Sony Ignores the Backlash and Returns to Social Media Almost a Week After Killing Physical Games
Also, glad to know their PR has a bunch of cowards running things.
They literally expected the MS news to come back to social media.
Re: Sony Ignores the Backlash and Returns to Social Media Almost a Week After Killing Physical Games
@PuppetMaster
Yeah, the FGC will either go with some well established names, some cheap names like Haute or go full DIY route.
Re: Sony Quits Social Media for 5 Days After Killing Physical Games, Earns Multiple Community Notes
@UltimateOtaku91
Nah, they chose a weird hill to die on, they won't come back from that, at least not right now.
This whole thing could've been handled better, like way better.
But they went like "We'll stop making physical games, it will be all digital and you'll like it"
The whole PR team should've been fired at least five years ago.
Re: Reaction: Travelling the World Made Me Realise What PlayStation Is About to Lose
I think I've said this before, but Sony going all digital doesn't affect me at all, however it is quite sad that we as consumers are losing another way to choose how we wanna play or interact with a product.
Not only that but there's no side benefit to us, neither the price of hardware nor the price of software will go down.
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
@CallMeDuraSouka
I mean, 32GBs of RAM, 1TB SSD and a mid to high tier GPU like a 5070Ti will already cost you 1.5k
Supposing he went overboard because RAMpocalypse never seems to end, I can picture half of that 15k being just 64GB of DDR5 and a 5080.
Re: Onimusha PS5 Has Actually Brought Its Launch Forward to 4th September
Hey, some "good" news.
"Good" cuz my wallet will still cry given I'll grab Control and Wolverine, maybe Blood of the Dawnwalker too.
@AdamNovice
I'd say GKC is a mix between digital and physical, mostly because Switch 2 main target is the japanese crowd and they do love their collection.
Which also makes me question: if Sony goes forward with this stupid decision will the JP locked PS6 still have a disc drive?
Re: PS6 Release Now Expected End of 2028, According to Analyst
Given the response we got from the public today, I would put a question mark on that unlikely.
Re: Sony Takes Social Media Time Out After Controversially Killing Physical Games
Boy, I definitely don't wanna be on the PR team, because this is going to be a long nightmare to fix.
But hey, at least complaining is working
Re: Reaction: PlayStation's Burned Through the Last Remaining Goodwill of Its Fans
Will it affect me? Not really, all my purchases are digital.
I do feel sorry for collectors and people who have a physical library.
Re: Sony Will Continue to Chase Live Service Dream, Despite Mostly Disastrous Execution to Date
Sure, when its a good product and not another one in the shelf.
Case in point, look at HD2 and GT7, or look at Capcom with SF6 and Monster Hunter.
Companies forget that live service does not always mean "ALWAYS ONLINE SHOOTER GAME WITH BATTLEPASS", but rather it can be a game with an online multiplayer mode and rolling content delivery.
Re: Bungie Loses 292 Full-Time Staff in Heavy Round of Layoffs
Excuse me, but was I supposed to be sorry because some people got laid off after a series of stupid decisions they were complicit with?
Hell no, they bought the tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say let them crash and burn.
Re: Sony's Japan-Exclusive PS5 Is Losing Money, Cheaper Than a Switch 2
The problem with PS5 hardware isn't just the price but the form factor too.
A form factor that puts the japanese market first works for the rest of the world, but you can't say the same for a form factor that does the opposite.
PS1 and PS2 sold because it was a form factor that thought about the japanese market first, they were small and could fit in your living room without any problems, and yes, even the fat models were small when compared to PS5.
Re: Tencent Looking to Offload Game Dev Investments, Even at a Loss
So, basically it will stop investing in small japanese studios to invest in AI companies and maybe, just maybe, some dev studios back in China?
I don't see how this will "crash the industry", looks like your normal investment shift after a cycle
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds, Shinobi: Art of Vengeance Sell Below SEGA's Expectations
idk what the problem with Shinobi was, but for Crossroads it was the price.
People liked the demo, but avoided the game once the $70 tag was revealed because they didn't feel it was a game worth that value.