It only sparks chatter because Square said turn based RPGs are dead, yet every year we get at least one smash hit turn based RPG.
But then again, ever since the Spirits Within fiasco I get the feeling Square is trying to prove FF works more as a movie than a game, and almost every time some twist of destiny proves them wrong.
Yeah, about that, I'm also a developer and my take on this is basically: while his points are valid, when planning a release date you MUST take into consideration any kind of surprise that might happen on that day.
Even if Oblivion wasn't shadow dropping, it could have been a game that was supposed to release the next week but got brought forward to that day instead. It doesn't happen very often but it does happen.
Also, my brother in christ I've never heard of your game before the whole complaining happened, if anything Oblivion helped you more than your marketing strategy.
@RoomWithaMoose Basically every US president has to tackle some basic things, mainly the ever increasing debt that generates an ever increasing inflation. Not only that but with the loss of entry and mid level jobs due to many factors it became almost impossible to balance things out. It also doesn't help that most entry/mid level jobs are related to manufacturing, directly or indirectly.
Tariffs are one way to do that, if applied the right way it should generate enough jobs, the other is putting a hard cap on government expenses and cutting all fat you can find.
I know where Orange man is coming from and why he is doing what he does, what I don't know is if his strategy will work or if it will work as fast as he thinks it will.
"Ubisoft’s lawyers, however, have hit back, arguing there’s no reason for players to believe they were purchasing 'unfettered ownership rights in the game'."
Yeah, about that, they bought a product and expected it to work. This isn't about ownership rights but rather about selling a product that doesn't work anymore if the company pulls the plug and not offering any compensation when that happens.
Also, if you're going by the ownership rights route one could also argue on court that not only Ubisoft didn't make that explicit, they also sold the product at the same price as similar products that you could really own, which could make this a false advertising case under certain courts.
@GirlVersusGame I've dropped the 12-month for a monthly subscription, mainly because it made no sense money wise to grab the 12-month since you only save the cost of one monthly and a couple of days.
They should localize the prices for those countries, but we all know it won't happen.
Seeing a lot of brazilians saying this new hike basically puts the 12-month PS Plus Deluxe at 1/2 and the 12-month PS Plus Essential at 1/4 their monthly minimum wage. This is absurd.
Personally? Up to $100 it doesn't affect me since I usually buy one D1 release per quarter and wait for a 35%+ discount on anything else.
But it might affect those that buy more than one newly released game per quarter or even more than one per month.
While I can see why companies need to hike the prices, like, for real we oughta be paying close to $120 according to the last report I saw on development costs x inflation rate since the 90's, I can also see that there is no market for that kind of price because its not benefical for consumers.
Who is laughing now? Capcom. Wilds probably sold at least 3x more than Shadows and will sell more once the updates and the inevitable expansion are out too.
All that while having a damn solid game and no PR nightmare to deal with.
@themightyant I'd say its different from Sony releasing a game on PC. For Sony its just extra money in most cases, those games usually sell well enough on Playstation. For Xbox on the other hand, those games didn't sell enough units on their original target platform, releasing on other platforms is just a way to avert a major loss of revenue, keyword here being revenue because it will most likely not turn into profit.
Also, this is just me but I think the Xbox brand on some titles might hurt sales more than not having it. CoD and Doom gets a pass because most people don't associate those brands to Xbox or Microsoft, same with Minecraft.
One of my coworkers escaped from a country where the government forces a union upon you and you can't opt out, at least not without spending a lot time filing some lawsuits and even then most judges rule against you because "it might hurt the rights of other workers"
I already had a low opinion on unions, hearing his story and reading all this SAG-AFTRA drama just proves to me that unions hurt workers more than a bad company ever will.
This probably means Shadows isn't going to reach the sales milestones in time, or at all.
And yes, while this restructuring would happen anyways even if Shadows sold well enough, its the timing and the actors involved in this that say a lot about the situation.
I mean, of course they're gonna say that, I don't think there is any company in the world that would go "hey its playable internally and it just plain sucks"
No professional outlet that praises itself as being professional will bash the game for one minor nitpick, they will analyse it properly and weight the pros and cons.
I don't see why this needs to be news, you don't need to defend a good game but people seem rather eager to defend Shadows.
Even on the possibility this game hasn't flopped, which is quite possible since we also don't know how many units it needs to sell, it ain't the silver bullet to solve Ubisoft underlying problems.
@themightyant People should wait for Q1 report, which will probably come out on May.
@Glorioso In general or just for this kind of scam? In general it is a pretty lenghty process, for this kind of scam it is quite easy:
Lets create a company called Fictional Company A Interactive and do the whole process of getting certified, we got approved, got the devkit and even managed to release our game.
Despite all that it didn't work out and we filed for bankrupcy.
Cue in Scam Company B, they offer to buy our company assets, including IP and trademarks, we sell it.
Scam Company B now gets renamed to Fictional Company A Interactive and has access to all the licenses that company had.
Scam Company B starts pumping shovelware into stores until it gets caught and banned.
I was about to do a Copilot joke but it seems someone beat me to it. Sadge.
Anyways, title aside, this will happen more and more as PS5 devkits start to appear in the wild. Sony is as strict as they can with this stuff, but once a company goes down it becomes harder to track those devkits.
Honestly? This pales in comparison to what they did to a historical figure known for her loyalty to her husband.
As a said before, if it was one thing they screwed up it would be fine, but this has been a PR nightmare from the start and now it will only escalate further since japanese government will be involved.
No such thing as a dead genre, you just need good games. I mean, except light gun games, band games and dance games, those genres are dead since you also need special hardware for those.
Just remember that Ubisoft isn't in a good financial spot right now, and they NEED this game to be a success despite the PR blunder this whole gig has been.
But I'm sure they'll use lawyer to protect their employees and not to shutdown any negative review, right? Right?
Also, funny how companies that make good games, or at least games with the bare minimum their fans expect, face little to no aggresive backlash from fans. Maybe, just maybe, try doing that next time?
I feel bad for the people who fell for the "union is good for us" scam. They joined SAG-AFTRA and now they aren't getting as many jobs as they used to anymore.
@heavyartillery56 If AI can replace your job then your job shouldn't even exist in the first place. AI is a tool, just like a hammer, you don't see hammers replacing people.
Well, Starfield managed to sell some systems, just not Xbox. I know at least two friends who traded their Series X for a PC and PS5 because of Starfield.
Ain't this what Xbox have been since, like, OG Xbox? Hells, even their marketing team advertises every Xbox hardware release with something along the lines of "the power of PC in your living room".
@Dampsponge Of course having competition is the best option, but having no competition is actually better than having a competitor in paper only like we have right now.
When you have no competition you face the prospect of people simply not buying your product, so you actually strive to make better products, when you have a competitor in paper only you can get away with lots of thing because the only options are the clearly inferior product and your own product.
Case in point, just look at Nvidia over the years. You can pinpoint the times where they had competition, the times they didn't have and the times where they had competiton in paper only.
Back when PS5 Pro released some articles mentioned that Sony was collaborating with AMD in order to make ML-based upscaling possible on FSR and future RDNA tech.
Glad to see AMD basically confirmed that was indeed the case.
Idk, from what I've been reading and watching only LR missions seems like a cakewalk because they act like a tutorial and then once you reach HR you really start having some MonHun fun.
@Mikey856 Nah, but Guerilla went with an in-house solution for upscaling tech and temporal AA.
Also, it seems Capcom is using FSR 1.0 instead of FSR 3.X which would give them access to better upscaling tech and better temporal AA, which in turn would let them use better looking assets in performance mode.
@themightyant They are using it as a "pre-vis for games", but games don't work the same as movies do and it can lead to games looking alike gameplay wise.
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Re: Expedition 33's Sublime Success Sparks Chatter About Final Fantasy's Future
It only sparks chatter because Square said turn based RPGs are dead, yet every year we get at least one smash hit turn based RPG.
But then again, ever since the Spirits Within fiasco I get the feeling Square is trying to prove FF works more as a movie than a game, and almost every time some twist of destiny proves them wrong.
Re: Not Everyone Loved Oblivion Remastered's Shadow Drop
Yeah, about that, I'm also a developer and my take on this is basically: while his points are valid, when planning a release date you MUST take into consideration any kind of surprise that might happen on that day.
Even if Oblivion wasn't shadow dropping, it could have been a game that was supposed to release the next week but got brought forward to that day instead. It doesn't happen very often but it does happen.
Also, my brother in christ I've never heard of your game before the whole complaining happened, if anything Oblivion helped you more than your marketing strategy.
Re: PS5's Worst Kept Secret Could Now Be Days Away
Haven't we been hearing this since February and every week is like "Oblivion Remake could drop next week" ?
If you believe this, my brother in Christ, I do not only have a bridge to sell you, I also have the sequel to the acclaimed indie title Hollow Knight.
Re: PS5 Price Increases Announced by Sony, Immediately Affects UK, Europe, and More
@RoomWithaMoose
Basically every US president has to tackle some basic things, mainly the ever increasing debt that generates an ever increasing inflation.
Not only that but with the loss of entry and mid level jobs due to many factors it became almost impossible to balance things out. It also doesn't help that most entry/mid level jobs are related to manufacturing, directly or indirectly.
Tariffs are one way to do that, if applied the right way it should generate enough jobs, the other is putting a hard cap on government expenses and cutting all fat you can find.
I know where Orange man is coming from and why he is doing what he does, what I don't know is if his strategy will work or if it will work as fast as he thinks it will.
Re: PS5 Price Increases Announced by Sony, Affect UK, Europe, and More
@Nyne11Tyme
I mean, if what Trumps is doing works we will finally get a chance to see proper globalism working in the long term.
Re: Bungie's New PS5 Shooter Marathon Grabs September Release Date
I wasn't sold on the idea but after watching the trailer I can now say that this game really isn't my cup of tea.
Re: Fans of the Neo Geo Pocket Color Will Want to Try This New PS5, PS4 Fighter
I thought the game released already, but it seems it was early access.
Anyways, congrats to the team, they really deserved it.
Re: Comments from Ubisoft's Legal Team Are Not Going to Improve the Embattled Publisher's Image
"Ubisoft’s lawyers, however, have hit back, arguing there’s no reason for players to believe they were purchasing 'unfettered ownership rights in the game'."
Yeah, about that, they bought a product and expected it to work.
This isn't about ownership rights but rather about selling a product that doesn't work anymore if the company pulls the plug and not offering any compensation when that happens.
Also, if you're going by the ownership rights route one could also argue on court that not only Ubisoft didn't make that explicit, they also sold the product at the same price as similar products that you could really own, which could make this a false advertising case under certain courts.
Re: PS Plus Price Increases Confirmed for 15 Countries by Sony
@GirlVersusGame
I've dropped the 12-month for a monthly subscription, mainly because it made no sense money wise to grab the 12-month since you only save the cost of one monthly and a couple of days.
Re: PS Plus Price Increases Confirmed for 15 Countries by Sony
They should localize the prices for those countries, but we all know it won't happen.
Seeing a lot of brazilians saying this new hike basically puts the 12-month PS Plus Deluxe at 1/2 and the 12-month PS Plus Essential at 1/4 their monthly minimum wage. This is absurd.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Thoughts on Potential $80 PS5 Games?
Personally? Up to $100 it doesn't affect me since I usually buy one D1 release per quarter and wait for a 35%+ discount on anything else.
But it might affect those that buy more than one newly released game per quarter or even more than one per month.
While I can see why companies need to hike the prices, like, for real we oughta be paying close to $120 according to the last report I saw on development costs x inflation rate since the 90's, I can also see that there is no market for that kind of price because its not benefical for consumers.
Re: Almost All the UK's Boxed Copies of Assassin's Creed Shadows Sold on PS5 Last Week
@Paramahansa
My brother in Chist, Wilds sold 10M and we still haven't seen any hint of sale numbers from Ubisoft besides the 1M players stuff.
Re: Almost All the UK's Boxed Copies of Assassin's Creed Shadows Sold on PS5 Last Week
Who is laughing now? Capcom.
Wilds probably sold at least 3x more than Shadows and will sell more once the updates and the inevitable expansion are out too.
All that while having a damn solid game and no PR nightmare to deal with.
Re: Analyst Firm Predicts Some Pretty Unimpressive Sales Numbers for Xbox Ports on PS5
@themightyant
I'd say its different from Sony releasing a game on PC.
For Sony its just extra money in most cases, those games usually sell well enough on Playstation.
For Xbox on the other hand, those games didn't sell enough units on their original target platform, releasing on other platforms is just a way to avert a major loss of revenue, keyword here being revenue because it will most likely not turn into profit.
Also, this is just me but I think the Xbox brand on some titles might hurt sales more than not having it. CoD and Doom gets a pass because most people don't associate those brands to Xbox or Microsoft, same with Minecraft.
Re: Genshin Impact Community in Flames as English Cast Turn on New Voice Actor
One of my coworkers escaped from a country where the government forces a union upon you and you can't opt out, at least not without spending a lot time filing some lawsuits and even then most judges rule against you because "it might hurt the rights of other workers"
I already had a low opinion on unions, hearing his story and reading all this SAG-AFTRA drama just proves to me that unions hurt workers more than a bad company ever will.
Re: Ubisoft Spins Off Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, Rainbow Six into New Subsidiary with Tencent
This probably means Shadows isn't going to reach the sales milestones in time, or at all.
And yes, while this restructuring would happen anyways even if Shadows sold well enough, its the timing and the actors involved in this that say a lot about the situation.
Re: Intergalactic PS5 Is Playable Internally and Incredible, According to Naughty Dog
I mean, of course they're gonna say that, I don't think there is any company in the world that would go "hey its playable internally and it just plain sucks"
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Gets Positive Reviews In Japan as Bayonetta Director Speaks Out
No professional outlet that praises itself as being professional will bash the game for one minor nitpick, they will analyse it properly and weight the pros and cons.
I don't see why this needs to be news, you don't need to defend a good game but people seem rather eager to defend Shadows.
Re: Everyone's Wondering Whether Sony Will Block PS5 Games on Xbox's Rumoured PC Hardware
I mean, Sony could also release Linux compatible versions of their games which would hurt MS more than simply blocking access.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Devs Thank Fans for Its 'Incredibly Heartwarming' Reception
@ATaco
Of course they won't, even on the possibility this wasn't a miss it doesn't solve the problem Ubisoft is facing.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Broke PS Store Sales Records for Ubisoft
Even on the possibility this game hasn't flopped, which is quite possible since we also don't know how many units it needs to sell, it ain't the silver bullet to solve Ubisoft underlying problems.
@themightyant
People should wait for Q1 report, which will probably come out on May.
Re: Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Officially Out for PS5 on 17th April
Heh, Microsoft is stretching the Great Circle reach...
Sorry, couldn't help but to make that joke.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Seemingly Claims Second Biggest Launch in Series History
Yeah, heard this one before with other titles from Ubisoft, even Outlaws "sold well" if we take any news from that time period.
I'll just wait for Q1 sales report.
Re: Tekken 8 Set to Make Baffling System Change in Season 2, Fans Lose Their Minds
Sounds like the reaction was loud for the sake of being loud.
Re: Bloodborne Fans Wait with Bated Breath as Iconic PS4 Exclusive Turns 10 Today
I wouldn't expect anything big without a State of Play/Playstation Showcase anyways.
Re: Rumour: New God of War PS5 Game Returns to Greece This Year
Or, ya know, you coulda have ported the greek games to PS4/PS5, released them on Plus too.
Re: God of War Fans Gutted with Free 20th Anniversary Goodies
Wild rumors aside, it would've been nice to see a port of all the other God of War games releasing on PS Plus. Not a remaster, a simple port.
Its the small things you do to respect your consumer that really fends off a PR backlash.
Re: Bloober Team Announces New Horror Label, I Hate This Place Its First Game
ngl, I read the title so fast it gave me a chuckle because it sounded more like a complaint.
Re: Dev Irate About 'Illegal' Use of Its Property As AI Rip Off of Xbox Game Appears on PS Store
@Glorioso
In general or just for this kind of scam? In general it is a pretty lenghty process, for this kind of scam it is quite easy:
Re: Dev Irate About 'Illegal' Use of Its Property As AI Rip Off of Xbox Game Appears on PS Store
I was about to do a Copilot joke but it seems someone beat me to it. Sadge.
Anyways, title aside, this will happen more and more as PS5 devkits start to appear in the wild. Sony is as strict as they can with this stuff, but once a company goes down it becomes harder to track those devkits.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows Romance Misinformation Hits New Low on Social Media
Honestly? This pales in comparison to what they did to a historical figure known for her loyalty to her husband.
As a said before, if it was one thing they screwed up it would be fine, but this has been a PR nightmare from the start and now it will only escalate further since japanese government will be involved.
Re: Single Player Games Aren't Dead, 'They Just Have to Be Good', Says Larian Studios CEO
No such thing as a dead genre, you just need good games.
I mean, except light gun games, band games and dance games, those genres are dead since you also need special hardware for those.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows (PS5) - Striking Open World RPG Is a Real Cut Above
@PsBoxSwitchOwner @Darude84
Dunno where you guys live, but Newegg is already selling it with $10 off discount if you use a code.
Re: Assassin's Creed Shadows (PS5) - Striking Open World RPG Is a Real Cut Above
@Cornpop76
We'll know that once user reviews are out.
Re: Saints Row Team Thrown Under the Bus: 'They Didn't Know What They Were Building'
SR 1 and 2 were good GTA clones with their own spin
SR 3 and 4 were good parodies of the genre and fun games to play.
Reboot tho? Game was just plain boring.
Re: Yooka-Replaylee Narrows Release Window, Still Wide on PS5
Oh, they haven't done away with the energy system.
Guess I won't be getting this one.
Re: Ubisoft Will Reportedly Fight for Assassin's Creed Shadows, Anti-Harassment Plan in Place
Just remember that Ubisoft isn't in a good financial spot right now, and they NEED this game to be a success despite the PR blunder this whole gig has been.
But I'm sure they'll use lawyer to protect their employees and not to shutdown any negative review, right? Right?
Also, funny how companies that make good games, or at least games with the bare minimum their fans expect, face little to no aggresive backlash from fans. Maybe, just maybe, try doing that next time?
Re: Next Metro PS5 Game Reworked to Tell Darker Story as Series Turns 15
@arsmolinarc
I've waiting to play AH for a while, hope PS Plus gets it in the upcoming months.
Re: Disc Rot Already Afflicts Your Physical Game Collection
I mean, there's always a chance of disc rot happening, but if you take care your discs will probably outlast you.
Re: SAG-AFTRA Still 'Frustratingly Far Apart' from Big Game Studios, Publishers on AI Protections
I feel bad for the people who fell for the "union is good for us" scam. They joined SAG-AFTRA and now they aren't getting as many jobs as they used to anymore.
Re: Horizon Dev Promises It Isn't Trying to Replace Aloy Actress with AI
@heavyartillery56
If AI can replace your job then your job shouldn't even exist in the first place. AI is a tool, just like a hammer, you don't see hammers replacing people.
Re: Ex-Xbox System Seller Starfield Edges Ever Closer to PS5
Well, Starfield managed to sell some systems, just not Xbox.
I know at least two friends who traded their Series X for a PC and PS5 because of Starfield.
Re: Rumour: Next-Gen Xbox a 'PC in Essence' - What Would That Mean for PlayStation?
Ain't this what Xbox have been since, like, OG Xbox?
Hells, even their marketing team advertises every Xbox hardware release with something along the lines of "the power of PC in your living room".
Re: Ex-Xbox Boss Says Console War Has Lost Its 'Feistiness' as Microsoft Goes Multiformat
@Dampsponge
Of course having competition is the best option, but having no competition is actually better than having a competitor in paper only like we have right now.
When you have no competition you face the prospect of people simply not buying your product, so you actually strive to make better products, when you have a competitor in paper only you can get away with lots of thing because the only options are the clearly inferior product and your own product.
Case in point, just look at Nvidia over the years.
You can pinpoint the times where they had competition, the times they didn't have and the times where they had competiton in paper only.
Re: AMD Hypes Up PS6 Collaboration, FSR 4 Upscaling Tech
Back when PS5 Pro released some articles mentioned that Sony was collaborating with AMD in order to make ML-based upscaling possible on FSR and future RDNA tech.
Glad to see AMD basically confirmed that was indeed the case.
Re: Cancelled Wonder Woman PS5 Game Was 'Gorgeous and Expansive'
I mean, all devs say something like that about their cancelled projects.
Re: PS5 Pro Is By Far the Best Way to Play Monster Hunter Wilds on Console
I thought if there was any game that would make me buy a PS5 Pro it would be either Wilds or FF7 Part 3.
Seems like it will be Part 3 then.
Re: Some Monster Hunter Wilds Fans Are Losing Their Minds Over the Game Being 'Too Easy'
Idk, from what I've been reading and watching only LR missions seems like a cakewalk because they act like a tutorial and then once you reach HR you really start having some MonHun fun.
Re: Hands On: Monster Hunter Wilds Performance Certainly Isn't Perfect on PS5, PS5 Pro
@Mikey856
Nah, but Guerilla went with an in-house solution for upscaling tech and temporal AA.
Also, it seems Capcom is using FSR 1.0 instead of FSR 3.X which would give them access to better upscaling tech and better temporal AA, which in turn would let them use better looking assets in performance mode.
Re: Xbox Plots a Catalogue of AI Games, And It'll Probably Use Tech on PS5
@themightyant
They are using it as a "pre-vis for games", but games don't work the same as movies do and it can lead to games looking alike gameplay wise.