There's a lot of either disingenuous or just thick people where premium is concerned.
Many cite the full cost when the reality is the premium content is £20 extra a year. So you're paying £1.66 a month for the premium games as well as the streaming capabilities it offers.
You can argue it not being something you want and thats fine but to say it's not good value is frankly absurd. What else could you get for £1.66 a month instead? The my name is mayo "remaster" currently costs £1.99 for comparison...
If you say its not appealing i'd fully agree but thats a vastly different statement to saying its not good value. I've got premium because I'm grandfathered in at a reduced price from the ps now days, i've probably played 2 or 3 premium games since the tiers creation, they generally dont appeal to me and if i was subbing now as a new customer id 100% go for the extra tier which is phenomenal value but it would literally cost me more to cancel and resub to just extra so I naturally leave it and will continue to do so.
Never made any sense to acquire them. They've got a good working partnership already, their next game even if it's entirely self-funded will be prominent on Playstation, there's no xbox competition anymore, Nintendo is it's own separate kid-orientated thing thats about to release a new console on a par with last gen consoles that helldivers 2 didnt even get released on and even if it was Sony owned it would be coming to pc anyway so what's the need to acquire them? Assuming all the risk isn't worth the extra revenue potential when they can just sit back do nothing and take a nice cut.
Makes sense. Just make sure it's an increase restricted to the US only, let the people responsible for giving power to a complete clown pay for their error in judgement not the rest of us.
And yet I bet that the people who ultimately decided what that game was going to be (a live service game they wanted to milk) are still sitting in their very cushty jobs whilst laying off people who simply followed their instructions.
Genuinely borderline criminal to tie rocksteady down to that garbage for a decade, could have had 2 possibly even 3 batman games in that timeframe and even if it was just more of the same would have been superb.
Humankind dragging this month just above worst update to date. Thought it looked interesting when it went to gamepass, never heard about it since release so perhaps it wasn't great but I'm interested enough to give it a go. Stalker I have a passing interest in but I think i recalling hearing they were very buggy on release, might give that a go if it runs okay. Other than that a complete swing and a miss.
A lot of people renew their subs next month, my only hope is that they've maybe held back a deal or two until next month to make a bigger splash because a repeat of this month isn't going to go down well.
Whilst I haven't and still won't play this. I appreciate them doing this. All ps+ premium games should get trophy support, ideally on release but always better late than never.
Now would be a good time to bring it to ps+. Fully ride the revival wave and flood the game with new players then bring out some new paid dlc off the back of it for the extra revenue.
Snowrunner was phenomenal. Did not anticipate that I'd like it yet it turned into one of my favourite games and even got the elusive platinum. This looks like it's going to be even better.
May seem like a weird comparison but I get similar feelings from snowrunner as I did from death stranding, that same sense of plotting the optimal route, treading carefully and even the rebuilding side using resources is similar to the rebuilding of the roads in death stranding just minus the social aspect and minus the Kojima weird *****.
Speaking as somebody firmly on the outside looking in, surely the bulk of the work is already done and the costs of porting the game are far outweighed by potential additional sales?
I'm happy with it but I certainly think there's an argument to be made about the value here. These are all smaller priced titles, I'd personally expect these kind of titles to come as part of a ps+ extra refresh, perhaps one of them as the third essential game but not all. there's an unwritten expectation that the essential games are the full price heavyweights.
Loved 1. 2 was generational. Pre-sequel was mundane, 3 was just "meh"
The series needs a big overhaul things have moved on dramatically. Loot needs to feel worthwhile. enemies need to offer a challenge, they were either fodder not worth the effort of shooting, massive bulletsponges for the sake of it or they just 1 shot and wrecked you with almost nothing inbetween. They also need to make it so that not everything you do before reaching the level cap feels pointless. Give a way of levelling up weapons to match current level otherwise you end up just playing most of thr story with nothing whatsoever having any value and it being a rush to reach level cap.
They've had a long time to work on this, they seem to know changes needed to be made. The new movement seems like a good thing but there needs to be much more. I'd say im cautiously optimistic
"The leak" was never a leak it someone misinterpreting a rotating display based on your own collection. It was cleared up almost as quickly as the "leak" was discovered. It was comical how many news outlets picked it up without bothering to just check themselves and realise or just read one of numerous comments explaining it.
Anyway, great month. Balatro makes it so regardless, boltgun I hear is a very good boomer shooter that I'd be willing to try. Not really interested in arc, bit odd that they went with that game as the headline act of the month when it's clearly not.
@UltimateOtaku91 what makes you think EA are struggling? Layoffs don't happen because they can't afford it, it's done because it's financially prudent.
The Ea sports games franchises are amongst the most lucrative in the entire industry, they're in no way struggling.
If they cancel 2 games it's a given they'll be hefty lay offs. The industry is built in such a way that certain specific roles aren't required all the time and so keeping a fully staffed studio sitting around twiddling their thumbs for substantial periods of time when it isn't required makes zero financial sense.
There really needs to be an acceptance that this is just the norm in the industry now. Certain roles are essentially contract based in all but writing, you come on board when its time, do your role, get paid decently for it then when youre done you move on.
When studios ramp up development and hire when neccesary, nowhere near as much fanfare is made around that.
Sony would have to have been incredibly stupid to price match after the backlash. It's a very easy PR win to do literally nothing and eventually once the outrage at the price hike dies down and people are accepting of it they can do it then.
I like remedy, I'm rooting for them to do well and find that monumental seller that secures their long term future, I suspect this won't be that. Does nothing for me, id have to hear overwhelmingly postive hype for me to even contemplate giving it a go even for "free"
can only hope they've covered their backs financially by bringing it straight to subscription services it also gives them a lot of day 1 eyes so they've made a wise decision in signing those deals.
@Dan12836666 you're comparing it to gamepass which costs about 3 times as much as ps+, it's not an appropriate comparison.
You say you dont want to play old games, that's fine but what are you doing subscribing to ps+ then? They've been very clear in stating that regular day 1 games are not in their plans and the bulk of their service will be older titles.
Their model is what you don't want and you know that yet you've still decided to subscribe and then complain about it being what you dont want. The problem is entirely yours there I'm afraid.
Ps+ is objectively tremendous value, there's simply no denying that, that's factual and quantifiable. If you're Personally somehow not finding value in it, that's your issue not the services and you can simply unsubscribe.
It's like somebody who isn't a sports fan subscribing to a sports channel and then bemoaning the lack of dramas on it.
@Dan12836666 zero value? You're either a casual gamer whose only interested in the 1 or 2 big titles like a COD or you purchase every single game that you are even slightly interested in for that to have a chance if being true. And if either of those are the case then that's on you for buying a subscription service that clearly isn't meant for somebody like you.
Not one to moan about games leaving in general but theres a massive piss take here. Firstly the increasingly limited notice. These games will have been on contracts theyve known theyre due to lapse the second they signed the deal so give us some proper notice so we can at least perhaps get 1 game done before its removed.
Gta leaving once again after a short stint so they can re-add it again and take it off once more before the end of the year. Can't wait for it to be the headline addition for August...
That's a huge blow for psvr2. That's most of the vr games. Whilst i dont own a psvr, i appreacited theyre at least trying to support it and for anybody on the fence or tempted, the extra library was a draw imo.
There's zero reason why infamous should be removed unless they're doing a re-master/re-release. And why are the resistance games being removed when they've not long been added?
Not typically into turned based rpgs but this does catch my eye. I think i've bought precisely 3 games this decade, I feed exclusively on ps+ services nowadays and my natural stance is now naturally, ill play that in 2 years time when it comes to subscription services but with the generous price I'm as tempted as I've been for a long time by this.
Nah you're alright. I'll perhaps contemplate it if there's nothing else to play when it inevitably comes to ps+ in some form but even then it's unlikely.
Enjoyed cult of the lamb and would like to see a sequel but im a bit surprised its their most profitable game. It wouldn't be close to number 1 for me if I'm ranking developer published games. Hotline Miami, olli,olli, my friend Pedro, talos principle, shadow warrior, inscryption and deaths door I think were all better.
The people on here voting are the most invested people of the player base so in that respect it's quite damning but also as the most hardcore, their tastes probably aren't in live service titles.
I wonder whether the same poll pre helldivers 2 release would have majorly different results.
The niche genre is certainly bungies biggest obstacle, the player base for that genre is tiny, if that's all they're going to be appealing too then they're in trouble, I suspect a lot of bungie fans will be willing to back the studios next game though.
Best thing they could do is offer a ps+ extended trial. Why not bring it to ps+ essential as a bonus title that month for say a week, long enough to get players invested but obviously not long enough to fully exhaust the contents, then give them a small ps+ discount if they choose to buy the game after the trial period.
seeing as they havent even announced the price yet they could even artificially inflated the cost so that the ps+ discount is the intended cost and not lose out whilst giving the illusion of a discount.
If anybody at Sony/bungie marketing need me, I'm here.
Another indication that the ps6 is way off yet in contrast to what many suggest.
Consoles have typically gotten cheaper as cost to make them goes down over time. the ps5 still going up in price despite well over a decade old technology now when factoring in when this console was designed, suggests any new console on the horizon would reach an astronomical cost. if a ps6 were to release in the near future into this kind of market, you're looking at 4 figures for a base model, that isn't going to work.
@DennisReynolds no, the audience they want is as many as possible. Infact they'll be banking on players who havent played extraction games to buy the next bungie game.
The extraction genre is a small niche genre, if the player base was purely extraction shooter fans, the game won't last long at all.
Why should bungie waste money and resources on modes that will quickly be dead? Says who? You've decided nobody wants a hypothetical mode for an unrelased game we've seen practically nothing of nevermind played. You have absolutely nothing to suggest that would be the case.
@DennisReynolds the game's only just been unveiled, nobody has bought the game yet. How can you say people who may be interested in an extraction shooter only want the classic extraction shooter? who is to say they wouldn't want that and more? It doesn't have to be just a simple copy and paste extraction shooter where they have to compete in an already flooded market for a limited number of players. To survive and prosper you need mass appeal.
@DennisReynolds why not? Why does it have to follow the exact same formula of other extraction shooters? No reason why you can't have variation. Even just implementing existing multi-player modes within the extraction genre already gives you multiple modes without putting any thought or effort into something unique. Classic mode and a down and out mode with no reviving, theres 2 straight away. That's just an example for the purposes of explaining the point though and i'd hope they'd put more thought into it than that.
The only legitimate argument against is it shrinks the player pool but if that's a concern for them at launch then that should activate much bigger alarm bells.
If you're going to charge it has to offer more than f2p games do. There needs to be multiple modes, multiple maps, any progression based system in it needs to be free of micotransactions. No problem with charging for it but just make sure you provide £40 worth of content that a f2p game lacks.
Doesn't appear to be anything unique about it at all. Bungie do excellent gunplay so I'm sure that will be top class as per usual and from a design aspect it looks kind of flashy and appealing but is that enough for it to succeed?
If this bombed, I wouldn't be remotely surprised. Is there a market for this? What's it doing that f2p titles aren't? I'd be very nervous if I was a bungie exec. They need to get the marketing spot on for this. I want to see bungie do well so hope it's a success but I'll be merely a passing interested party, no interest in playing this. They'd have to give it to me on ps+ to get me to even try it.
This tallies much more closely to my experience so far than the 9/10's others are giving it.
The RNG nature is a bit too random, it should be more weighted so that there's more chance of drafting a room that actually let's you progress rather than the constant dead ends options im faced with that end runs before theyve even started.
Forcing you into a draft once you've clicked on a door was a terrible idea, the worst in the game. If I've got 2 entry points to a square and the first way draws me no viable options to continue, I should be able to cancel work my way around to the other entrance and draft from that side too to see my options, doesnt make anything easier but gives the player more control and strategy in their planning.
this tiny change would massively improve the early frustration with this game and complete reliance on the luck of the draw.
When I get the runs that give me enough keys/gems and enough luck to reach the later ranks they're actually fun and you can feel satisfied that you've had an opportunity to progress even if you dint actually make any progress with anything. They're a complete contrast to drawing nothing but dead ends and not being able to go north when still rank 2/3 which so far is 80% of the runs.
Happy with the list. Looking forward to blue prince and been waiting for the inevitable hogwarts legacy. Plateup looks like an overcooked clone so that looks worth a play too. Got battlefield, and no interest in golf, no interest in lost records or the premium games.
My issue with this month is the massive reduction in quantity. With the ps extra/premium rebrand, the best thing about it over psnow was the increase in quantity, it meant there was nearly always something for everybody, we were getting 15-20 games over the 2 tiers, we're not even reaching double figures now and that's a big problem.
It's fine if you've not got the main titles and obviously this month with 2 day 1 releases theyve ensured this isnt the case but in future, if you happen to own the main games of the month with just 6 games on offer it's going to lead to months where lots of people have nothing of interest to try.
The titles don't all need to be stellar AAA titles but the numbers need to increase.
If you think there's been a fair bit of backlash and unhappiness with these potential new normal prices, Americans can expect at least a 20% bump in cost on top of that soon enough and very possibly, considerably more thanks to the clown show you americans voted to run your country.
All it will do is create a wider gap between the blockbuster system sellers making even more money and everything else struggling further. People aren't going to pay £80 for titles they aren't 100% convinced on. So that means fewer new IP and fewer new devs as reluctance to take a chance on something will intensify. For the likes of gta 6, cod etc, people will moan but they'll still pay it because they know what they're getting, that isn't going to be the case for everything else and so you'll get a lot more flops and more closures and lay offs.
They'll be a time where there can't be any new IP or new studio without the financial backing of a first party or a subscription service.
Hades 2 is one of the few games I'd have considered getting on release, with this news it helps to squash any hype around it as there's much less temptation to buy on release when the game has been out for a while elsewhere. Helps me not to give in and simply wait for it to be available either on a subscription service or for peanuts.
Nope. Not for me. Anything cross platform won't be worth playing on that system over a ps5/xbox/PC which automatically means it's purely about the exclusives.
None of Nintendo's exclusives appeal to me, they are all aimed at kids and play as such imo.
Not knocking it, it's a tactic that has proven to be incredibly beneficial to them I'm just not the target audience as an adult and never really understood how other adults have bought into it either but each to their own.
The only appeal I can potentially see is in the handheld space but that's a niche thing and there's plenty of other options now with ps portal or a steam deck amongst others if that's what you want.
I don't think it's done anything at all to entice non-switch owners over to Nintendo but the price point has probably turned the more casual Nintendo fan away. Will be interesting to see sales figures if availability isn't restrictive. It will still undoubtedly sell plenty but I can't see how it sells as well as the switch.
Sony regularly proclaim Nintendo aren't really in the same market as Playstation and not a direct competitor and thus they shouldn't be copying their practices either.
If they do all it's going to do is create an even bigger divide. The blockbuster tent pole games will continue to be bought in their millions regardless of price and the rest will suffer a decline in sales at full price as even more people wait for sales or for it to come to services instead.
That's how it's going already, a price bump will just accelerate it. I've bought precisely 3 games this decade, nioh 2. Gow ragnorak and elden ring and I haven't once been short on something to play because of the services. there's really no need for me to buy anything anymore with Playstation premium. Especially not at full price.
Nothing but complete guess work no doubt wrapped in some technical jargon to add legitimacy to what is essentially plucking a number from their arse. Microsoft won't release actual figures to ever prove/disprove them so they're free to just make these claims with no foundation. No idea why this has even been given the time of day.
Pricing them at their rrp is pointless, you'd have to be incredibly stupid to be paying full rrp on games multiple years old, all will have been available for less than half the prices being used.
Don't think this year has been particularly notable so far, it's been very average I'd say.
However, the value is absolutely undoubted. I'm on premium, play pretty much daily and haven't bought a game in about 4 years as I've never been short of stuff to play.
It's alright, I had robocop down to come to the service so happy with that but it feels like an extra game rather than an essential game which tend to be bigger titles.
Texas chainsaw massacre I have zero interest in, it's just another in the massive bloated list of multi-player only games given away on essential that will probably either go ftp or completely close servers soon enough.
Digimon I hear is a good game, but not really for me.
Feels like a test. Obviously the risk here is brand/IP damage and that's why they've given license to IP they were never liked to ever revive themselves and if successes can be made with those they may be willing to license out some of their more appealing dormant IP.
The dream would be to get dormant IP like Jak and daxter, Sly, resistance and killzone from sony's flagship studios.
For the good of the world, I really hope close tabs are being kept on the person who conceived this idea. As odd as it is, it's even more peculiar to imagine having thought this up and acted upon it.
No platinum will always turn away a section of potential buyers. However small, there will be some people that will not buy because of this, whether that's the sole reason or just the tipping point. There's nobody that is going to be put off because of a platinum and nobody will be more inclined to buy it because there isn't a platinum so what's the thought process behind it? You're restricting your potential audience for no reason.
To me, the lack of a platinum in any game nowadays starts alarm bells ringing, it suggests a lack of care and effort has been put into it, now it might not be the case but that's the impression I get
Selling early access to a game that's already available is not getting anywhere close to the scrutiny it warrants. Gamers get outraged very easily over the smallest of things yet this practice, something genuinely worthy of such outrage, is going largely under the radar.
I'll hold off for 18 months and play it st no additional cost when it inevitably comes to ps+ in some form.
Shorter games are absolutely fine if they're also fantastic games. If this was a mediocre 12 hour game, there would have been issues and the length would have gone against it. Great games will invariably do well regardless of length.
I'd take a smaller god of war side project Inbetween the next mainline game. I think a 2d combat focused metroidvania that's closer in it's roots to the original gow Greece games could be brilliant.
I've long since championed for other Sony studios to be working on smaller titles from existing IP, smaller titles to fill gaps that take maybe 2 years to do rather than the new standard 5 year cycle that they could even use to bolster the ps+ extra lineups as day 1 offerings would fit perfectly
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Re: Just 4% of PS5, PS4 Fans Think PS Plus Premium Represents Good Value for Money
There's a lot of either disingenuous or just thick people where premium is concerned.
Many cite the full cost when the reality is the premium content is £20 extra a year. So you're paying £1.66 a month for the premium games as well as the streaming capabilities it offers.
You can argue it not being something you want and thats fine but to say it's not good value is frankly absurd. What else could you get for £1.66 a month instead? The my name is mayo "remaster" currently costs £1.99 for comparison...
If you say its not appealing i'd fully agree but thats a vastly different statement to saying its not good value. I've got premium because I'm grandfathered in at a reduced price from the ps now days, i've probably played 2 or 3 premium games since the tiers creation, they generally dont appeal to me and if i was subbing now as a new customer id 100% go for the extra tier which is phenomenal value but it would literally cost me more to cancel and resub to just extra so I naturally leave it and will continue to do so.
Re: Helldivers 2 Dev Breaks Away from PlayStation, Next Game Will Be Self-Funded
Never made any sense to acquire them. They've got a good working partnership already, their next game even if it's entirely self-funded will be prominent on Playstation, there's no xbox competition anymore, Nintendo is it's own separate kid-orientated thing thats about to release a new console on a par with last gen consoles that helldivers 2 didnt even get released on and even if it was Sony owned it would be coming to pc anyway so what's the need to acquire them? Assuming all the risk isn't worth the extra revenue potential when they can just sit back do nothing and take a nice cut.
Re: Even More PS5 Price Increases Being Considered by Sony
Makes sense. Just make sure it's an increase restricted to the US only, let the people responsible for giving power to a complete clown pay for their error in judgement not the rest of us.
Re: Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League Bombed So Hard, Warner Bros' Games Revenue Still Hasn't Recovered
And yet I bet that the people who ultimately decided what that game was going to be (a live service game they wanted to milk) are still sitting in their very cushty jobs whilst laying off people who simply followed their instructions.
Genuinely borderline criminal to tie rocksteady down to that garbage for a decade, could have had 2 possibly even 3 batman games in that timeframe and even if it was just more of the same would have been superb.
Re: 10 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for May 2025 Announced
Humankind dragging this month just above worst update to date. Thought it looked interesting when it went to gamepass, never heard about it since release so perhaps it wasn't great but I'm interested enough to give it a go.
Stalker I have a passing interest in but I think i recalling hearing they were very buggy on release, might give that a go if it runs okay. Other than that a complete swing and a miss.
A lot of people renew their subs next month, my only hope is that they've maybe held back a deal or two until next month to make a bigger splash because a repeat of this month isn't going to go down well.
Re: Another PS Plus Premium Classic Game Adds Trophies on PS5, PS4
Whilst I haven't and still won't play this. I appreciate them doing this. All ps+ premium games should get trophy support, ideally on release but always better late than never.
Re: Helldivers 2 Continues to Be Sony's Most Successful Live Service by a Mile
Now would be a good time to bring it to ps+. Fully ride the revival wave and flood the game with new players then bring out some new paid dlc off the back of it for the extra revenue.
Ps+ extra announcements are due....
Re: We Didn't Expect a Trailer for Construction Sim RoadCraft to Make Us Feel All Warm and Fuzzy
Snowrunner was phenomenal. Did not anticipate that I'd like it yet it turned into one of my favourite games and even got the elusive platinum. This looks like it's going to be even better.
May seem like a weird comparison but I get similar feelings from snowrunner as I did from death stranding, that same sense of plotting the optimal route, treading carefully and even the rebuilding side using resources is similar to the rebuilding of the roads in death stranding just minus the social aspect and minus the Kojima weird *****.
Expect this to be a sleeper hit.
Re: GTA 6 Trailer 2 Is Finally Here, PS5 Graphics Are Jaw-Dropping
Not trying to purposefully go against the grain but that did very little for me.
Re: The Hundred Line Creator Clarifies Odds of PS5 Port Are 'Very Slim' As Studio Is on the Brink of Bankruptcy
Speaking as somebody firmly on the outside looking in, surely the bulk of the work is already done and the costs of porting the game are far outweighed by potential additional sales?
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for May 2025?
I'm happy with it but I certainly think there's an argument to be made about the value here. These are all smaller priced titles, I'd personally expect these kind of titles to come as part of a ps+ extra refresh, perhaps one of them as the third essential game but not all. there's an unwritten expectation that the essential games are the full price heavyweights.
Re: Poll: Are You Sold on Borderlands 4?
Loved 1. 2 was generational. Pre-sequel was mundane, 3 was just "meh"
The series needs a big overhaul things have moved on dramatically. Loot needs to feel worthwhile. enemies need to offer a challenge, they were either fodder not worth the effort of shooting, massive bulletsponges for the sake of it or they just 1 shot and wrecked you with almost nothing inbetween. They also need to make it so that not everything you do before reaching the level cap feels pointless. Give a way of levelling up weapons to match current level otherwise you end up just playing most of thr story with nothing whatsoever having any value and it being a rush to reach level cap.
They've had a long time to work on this, they seem to know changes needed to be made. The new movement seems like a good thing but there needs to be much more. I'd say im cautiously optimistic
Re: Poll: Vote for Your PS5 Game of the Month (April 2025)
Blue prince sitting 6th in the list is an absolute travesty. A special, unique game. Gets my vote all day.
Re: GTA 6 Delayed to 2026, Out on 26th May 2026
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell thee.
Biggest banker in gaming that this wasn't coming this year.
Re: PS Plus Essential Games for May 2025 Announced
"The leak" was never a leak it someone misinterpreting a rotating display based on your own collection. It was cleared up almost as quickly as the "leak" was discovered. It was comical how many news outlets picked it up without bothering to just check themselves and realise or just read one of numerous comments explaining it.
Anyway, great month. Balatro makes it so regardless, boltgun I hear is a very good boomer shooter that I'd be willing to try. Not really interested in arc, bit odd that they went with that game as the headline act of the month when it's clearly not.
Re: EA Confirms Heavy Layoffs, Titanfall Game Cancelled
@UltimateOtaku91 what makes you think EA are struggling? Layoffs don't happen because they can't afford it, it's done because it's financially prudent.
The Ea sports games franchises are amongst the most lucrative in the entire industry, they're in no way struggling.
Re: EA Confirms Heavy Layoffs, Titanfall Game Cancelled
If they cancel 2 games it's a given they'll be hefty lay offs. The industry is built in such a way that certain specific roles aren't required all the time and so keeping a fully staffed studio sitting around twiddling their thumbs for substantial periods of time when it isn't required makes zero financial sense.
There really needs to be an acceptance that this is just the norm in the industry now. Certain roles are essentially contract based in all but writing, you come on board when its time, do your role, get paid decently for it then when youre done you move on.
When studios ramp up development and hire when neccesary, nowhere near as much fanfare is made around that.
Re: Ghost of Yotei's PS5 Price Provokes Fresh Switch 2 Fury
Sony would have to have been incredibly stupid to price match after the backlash. It's a very easy PR win to do literally nothing and eventually once the outrage at the price hike dies down and people are accepting of it they can do it then.
Re: First PS Plus Extra Game for June 2025 Confirmed
I like remedy, I'm rooting for them to do well and find that monumental seller that secures their long term future, I suspect this won't be that. Does nothing for me, id have to hear overwhelmingly postive hype for me to even contemplate giving it a go even for "free"
can only hope they've covered their backs financially by bringing it straight to subscription services it also gives them a lot of day 1 eyes so they've made a wise decision in signing those deals.
Good luck to them.
Re: Massive PS Plus Clearout Announced for May, 22 Games Leaving
@Dan12836666 you're comparing it to gamepass which costs about 3 times as much as ps+, it's not an appropriate comparison.
You say you dont want to play old games, that's fine but what are you doing subscribing to ps+ then? They've been very clear in stating that regular day 1 games are not in their plans and the bulk of their service will be older titles.
Their model is what you don't want and you know that yet you've still decided to subscribe and then complain about it being what you dont want. The problem is entirely yours there I'm afraid.
Ps+ is objectively tremendous value, there's simply no denying that, that's factual and quantifiable. If you're
Personally somehow not finding value in it, that's your issue not the services and you can simply unsubscribe.
It's like somebody who isn't a sports fan subscribing to a sports channel and then bemoaning the lack of dramas on it.
Re: Massive PS Plus Clearout Announced for May, 22 Games Leaving
@Dan12836666 zero value? You're either a casual gamer whose only interested in the 1 or 2 big titles like a COD or you purchase every single game that you are even slightly interested in for that to have a chance if being true. And if either of those are the case then that's on you for buying a subscription service that clearly isn't meant for somebody like you.
Re: Massive PS Plus Clearout Announced for May, 22 Games Leaving
Not one to moan about games leaving in general but theres a massive piss take here. Firstly the increasingly limited notice. These games will have been on contracts theyve known theyre due to lapse the second they signed the deal so give us some proper notice so we can at least perhaps get 1 game done before its removed.
Gta leaving once again after a short stint so they can re-add it again and take it off once more before the end of the year. Can't wait for it to be the headline addition for August...
That's a huge blow for psvr2. That's most of the vr games. Whilst i dont own a psvr, i appreacited theyre at least trying to support it and for anybody on the fence or tempted, the extra library was a draw imo.
There's zero reason why infamous should be removed unless they're doing a re-master/re-release. And why are the resistance games being removed when they've not long been added?
They'll be 6 games to replace these.
Re: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (PS5) - Daring, Quirky RPG Is an Absolute Must-Play
Not typically into turned based rpgs but this does catch my eye. I think i've bought precisely 3 games this decade, I feed exclusively on ps+ services nowadays and my natural stance is now naturally, ill play that in 2 years time when it comes to subscription services but with the generous price I'm as tempted as I've been for a long time by this.
Re: Oblivion Remastered Out Now on PS5, Price and Download Size Revealed
Nah you're alright. I'll perhaps contemplate it if there's nothing else to play when it inevitably comes to ps+ in some form but even then it's unlikely.
Re: Devolver Will Be 'Leaning Further into' Its Existing IPs as Best-Selling Games Revealed
Enjoyed cult of the lamb and would like to see a sequel but im a bit surprised its their most profitable game. It wouldn't be close to number 1 for me if I'm ranking developer published games. Hotline Miami, olli,olli, my friend Pedro, talos principle, shadow warrior, inscryption and deaths door I think were all better.
I trust devolver to continue making good choices.
Re: PS5 Fans Give Bungie's Marathon the Cold Shoulder, 34% Say You'd Have to Pay Them to Play
The people on here voting are the most invested people of the player base so in that respect it's quite damning but also as the most hardcore, their tastes probably aren't in live service titles.
I wonder whether the same poll pre helldivers 2 release would have majorly different results.
The niche genre is certainly bungies biggest obstacle, the player base for that genre is tiny, if that's all they're going to be appealing too then they're in trouble, I suspect a lot of bungie fans will be willing to back the studios next game though.
Best thing they could do is offer a ps+ extended trial. Why not bring it to ps+ essential as a bonus title that month for say a week, long enough to get players invested but obviously not long enough to fully exhaust the contents, then give them a small ps+ discount if they choose to buy the game after the trial period.
seeing as they havent even announced the price yet they could even artificially inflated the cost so that the ps+ discount is the intended cost and not lose out whilst giving the illusion of a discount.
If anybody at Sony/bungie marketing need me, I'm here.
Re: PS5 Price Increases Announced by Sony, Affect UK, Europe, and More
Another indication that the ps6 is way off yet in contrast to what many suggest.
Consoles have typically gotten cheaper as cost to make them goes down over time. the ps5 still going up in price despite well over a decade old technology now when factoring in when this console was designed, suggests any new console on the horizon would reach an astronomical cost. if a ps6 were to release in the near future into this kind of market, you're looking at 4 figures for a base model, that isn't going to work.
Re: Marathon a 'Premium', Paid for Game on PS5, But It's Not $70
@DennisReynolds no, the audience they want is as many as possible. Infact they'll be banking on players who havent played extraction games to buy the next bungie game.
The extraction genre is a small niche genre, if the player base was purely extraction shooter fans, the game won't last long at all.
Why should bungie waste money and resources on modes that will quickly be dead? Says who? You've decided nobody wants a hypothetical mode for an unrelased game we've seen practically nothing of nevermind played. You have absolutely nothing to suggest that would be the case.
Re: Marathon a 'Premium', Paid for Game on PS5, But It's Not $70
@DennisReynolds the game's only just been unveiled, nobody has bought the game yet. How can you say people who may be interested in an extraction shooter only want the classic extraction shooter? who is to say they wouldn't want that and more? It doesn't have to be just a simple copy and paste extraction shooter where they have to compete in an already flooded market for a limited number of players. To survive and prosper you need mass appeal.
Re: Marathon a 'Premium', Paid for Game on PS5, But It's Not $70
@DennisReynolds why not? Why does it have to follow the exact same formula of other extraction shooters? No reason why you can't have variation. Even just implementing existing multi-player modes within the extraction genre already gives you multiple modes without putting any thought or effort into something unique. Classic mode and a down and out mode with no reviving, theres 2 straight away. That's just an example for the purposes of explaining the point though and i'd hope they'd put more thought into it than that.
The only legitimate argument against is it shrinks the player pool but if that's a concern for them at launch then that should activate much bigger alarm bells.
Re: Marathon a 'Premium', Paid for Game on PS5, But It's Not $70
If you're going to charge it has to offer more than f2p games do. There needs to be multiple modes, multiple maps, any progression based system in it needs to be free of micotransactions. No problem with charging for it but just make sure you provide £40 worth of content that a f2p game lacks.
Re: Bungie's New PS5 Shooter Marathon Grabs September Release Date
Doesn't appear to be anything unique about it at all. Bungie do excellent gunplay so I'm sure that will be top class as per usual and from a design aspect it looks kind of flashy and appealing but is that enough for it to succeed?
If this bombed, I wouldn't be remotely surprised. Is there a market for this? What's it doing that f2p titles aren't? I'd be very nervous if I was a bungie exec. They need to get the marketing spot on for this. I want to see bungie do well so hope it's a success but I'll be merely a passing interested party, no interest in playing this. They'd have to give it to me on ps+ to get me to even try it.
Re: Mini Review: Blue Prince (PS5) - A Deceptively Deep Puzzler That Delights and Confounds
This tallies much more closely to my experience so far than the 9/10's others are giving it.
The RNG nature is a bit too random, it should be more weighted so that there's more chance of drafting a room that actually let's you progress rather than the constant dead ends options im faced with that end runs before theyve even started.
Forcing you into a draft once you've clicked on a door was a terrible idea, the worst in the game. If I've got 2 entry points to a square and the first way draws me no viable options to continue, I should be able to cancel work my way around to the other entrance and draft from that side too to see my options, doesnt make anything easier but gives the player more control and strategy in their planning.
this tiny change would massively improve the early frustration with this game and complete reliance on the luck of the draw.
When I get the runs that give me enough keys/gems and enough luck to reach the later ranks they're actually fun and you can feel satisfied that you've had an opportunity to progress even if you dint actually make any progress with anything. They're a complete contrast to drawing nothing but dead ends and not being able to go north when still rank 2/3 which so far is 80% of the runs.
Re: 8 PS Plus Extra, Premium Games for April 2025 Announced
Happy with the list. Looking forward to blue prince and been waiting for the inevitable hogwarts legacy. Plateup looks like an overcooked clone so that looks worth a play too. Got battlefield, and no interest in golf, no interest in lost records or the premium games.
My issue with this month is the massive reduction in quantity. With the ps extra/premium rebrand, the best thing about it over psnow was the increase in quantity, it meant there was nearly always something for everybody, we were getting 15-20 games over the 2 tiers, we're not even reaching double figures now and that's a big problem.
It's fine if you've not got the main titles and obviously this month with 2 day 1 releases theyve ensured this isnt the case but in future, if you happen to own the main games of the month with just 6 games on offer it's going to lead to months where lots of people have nothing of interest to try.
The titles don't all need to be stellar AAA titles but the numbers need to increase.
Re: Bungie's Marathon PS5 Game Taking Over PlayStation Social Media Pages
There's been a press event with people getting hands on access with the game, expect a full previewing next week.
Re: Almost All PS5 Fans Are Against $80 Games
If you think there's been a fair bit of backlash and unhappiness with these potential new normal prices, Americans can expect at least a 20% bump in cost on top of that soon enough and very possibly, considerably more thanks to the clown show you americans voted to run your country.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Thoughts on Potential $80 PS5 Games?
All it will do is create a wider gap between the blockbuster system sellers making even more money and everything else struggling further. People aren't going to pay £80 for titles they aren't 100% convinced on. So that means fewer new IP and fewer new devs as reluctance to take a chance on something will intensify. For the likes of gta 6, cod etc, people will moan but they'll still pay it because they know what they're getting, that isn't going to be the case for everything else and so you'll get a lot more flops and more closures and lay offs.
They'll be a time where there can't be any new IP or new studio without the financial backing of a first party or a subscription service.
Re: Switch 2 Coughs Up for Timed Hades 2 Console Exclusivity, Coming to PS5 Later
Hades 2 is one of the few games I'd have considered getting on release, with this news it helps to squash any hype around it as there's much less temptation to buy on release when the game has been out for a while elsewhere. Helps me not to give in and simply wait for it to be available either on a subscription service or for peanuts.
Re: Poll: PS5 Fans, Are You Sold on the Nintendo Switch 2?
Nope. Not for me. Anything cross platform won't be worth playing on that system over a ps5/xbox/PC which automatically means it's purely about the exclusives.
None of Nintendo's exclusives appeal to me, they are all aimed at kids and play as such imo.
Not knocking it, it's a tactic that has proven to be incredibly beneficial to them I'm just not the target audience as an adult and never really understood how other adults have bought into it either but each to their own.
The only appeal I can potentially see is in the handheld space but that's a niche thing and there's plenty of other options now with ps portal or a steam deck amongst others if that's what you want.
I don't think it's done anything at all to entice non-switch owners over to Nintendo but the price point has probably turned the more casual Nintendo fan away. Will be interesting to see sales figures if availability isn't restrictive. It will still undoubtedly sell plenty but I can't see how it sells as well as the switch.
Re: Hollow Knight: Silksong Relegated to a Switch 2 Sizzle Reel
The game cannot possibly live up to the hype at this point.
Re: Nintendo Is Raising the Price of Games with Switch 2
Sony regularly proclaim Nintendo aren't really in the same market as Playstation and not a direct competitor and thus they shouldn't be copying their practices either.
If they do all it's going to do is create an even bigger divide. The blockbuster tent pole games will continue to be bought in their millions regardless of price and the rest will suffer a decline in sales at full price as even more people wait for sales or for it to come to services instead.
That's how it's going already, a price bump will just accelerate it. I've bought precisely 3 games this decade, nioh 2. Gow ragnorak and elden ring and I haven't once been short on something to play because of the services. there's really no need for me to buy anything anymore with Playstation premium. Especially not at full price.
Re: Analyst Firm Predicts Some Pretty Unimpressive Sales Numbers for Xbox Ports on PS5
Nothing but complete guess work no doubt wrapped in some technical jargon to add legitimacy to what is essentially plucking a number from their arse. Microsoft won't release actual figures to ever prove/disprove them so they're free to just make these claims with no foundation. No idea why this has even been given the time of day.
Re: PS Plus Essential Is Quietly Having a Great Year on PS5, PS4
Pricing them at their rrp is pointless, you'd have to be incredibly stupid to be paying full rrp on games multiple years old, all will have been available for less than half the prices being used.
Don't think this year has been particularly notable so far, it's been very average I'd say.
However, the value is absolutely undoubted. I'm on premium, play pretty much daily and haven't bought a game in about 4 years as I've never been short of stuff to play.
Re: Poll: Are You Happy with Your PS Plus Essential Games for April 2025?
It's alright, I had robocop down to come to the service so happy with that but it feels like an extra game rather than an essential game which tend to be bigger titles.
Texas chainsaw massacre I have zero interest in, it's just another in the massive bloated list of multi-player only games given away on essential that will probably either go ftp or completely close servers soon enough.
Digimon I hear is a good game, but not really for me.
Re: Reaction: Sony's Licensing Strategy May Be the Best Route to Reviving Some of PlayStation's Lost Classics
Feels like a test. Obviously the risk here is brand/IP damage and that's why they've given license to IP they were never liked to ever revive themselves and if successes can be made with those they may be willing to license out some of their more appealing dormant IP.
The dream would be to get dormant IP like Jak and daxter, Sly, resistance and killzone from sony's flagship studios.
Re: One of the Strangest Games Ever Made Appears to Be Coming to PS5, PS4
For the good of the world, I really hope close tabs are being kept on the person who conceived this idea. As odd as it is, it's even more peculiar to imagine having thought this up and acted upon it.
Re: No Platinum Trophy in Croc: Legend of the Gobbos Remaster's Meagre PS5 Trophy List
No platinum will always turn away a section of potential buyers. However small, there will be some people that will not buy because of this, whether that's the sole reason or just the tipping point. There's nobody that is going to be put off because of a platinum and nobody will be more inclined to buy it because there isn't a platinum so what's the thought process behind it? You're restricting your potential audience for no reason.
To me, the lack of a platinum in any game nowadays starts alarm bells ringing, it suggests a lack of care and effort has been put into it, now it might not be the case but that's the impression I get
Re: Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Officially Out for PS5 on 17th April
Selling early access to a game that's already available is not getting anywhere close to the scrutiny it warrants. Gamers get outraged very easily over the smallest of things yet this practice, something genuinely worthy of such outrage, is going largely under the radar.
I'll hold off for 18 months and play it st no additional cost when it inevitably comes to ps+ in some form.
Re: Astro Bot's Big Success the Result of Keeping Scope Small and Simple, Says Director
Shorter games are absolutely fine if they're also fantastic games. If this was a mediocre 12 hour game, there would have been issues and the length would have gone against it. Great games will invariably do well regardless of length.
Re: Rumour: New God of War PS5 Game Returns to Greece This Year
I'd take a smaller god of war side project Inbetween the next mainline game. I think a 2d combat focused metroidvania that's closer in it's roots to the original gow Greece games could be brilliant.
I've long since championed for other Sony studios to be working on smaller titles from existing IP, smaller titles to fill gaps that take maybe 2 years to do rather than the new standard 5 year cycle that they could even use to bolster the ps+ extra lineups as day 1 offerings would fit perfectly