Bluemoon2008

The phrase "all style, no substance" will undoubtedly be used to describe this game upon release.

I read "online coop game" I see the screenshots and my mind instantly dismisses it as "oh another one of those games that i'll never touch"

Probably unfair to do so but thats just how my brain operates.

DoA, ps+ game within a year of release by which time they've already given up and are there to just milk the last bit of money from it that they can. lay offs to follow and the game shutting down 12-18 months later.

Never heard of it, doubt i'll ever hear of it again.

Eye toy was a certified banger of a peripheral though. "When I'm cleanin' winda's"

Sounds more like the game was a success despite the hindrance of an episodic release schedule because it was a very good game

The Styx games are under the radar, great games, hopefully this can step up another level. That release date feels a bit iffy though. feels like that time of the year is always heavily bloated with releases and this is the type of game that could very easily get lost and forgotten amongst the crowd. They would benefit from releasing amongst a slow release window.

Uncharted drakes fortune was my introduction to trophies and my very first platinum. I immediately saw the appeal but I was more than fine not bothering with trophies for a lot of games, If I was in the mood and into the game i could get a particularly hard platinum but then leave an easy one on 1% if i couldn't be bothered.

It changed for me around lockdown, I had psnow, access to a bunch of games at once and decided I'd platinum everything I played and I've stuck to it ever since with just a few exceptions. I probably had just over 100 platinums before lockdown, I'm now approaching 400.

Looks fromsoft-ey but most likely a fallout TV show reference.

Very definition if a "meh, they're fine" month. The two extra games were certainly needed. Would be the weakest month by a clear distance without them extra games.

Lego Horizon will no doubt tempt me even though I know it'll end up being tedious and grindy, neon white has interested me for a while so happy to get that. The others are not for me, don't need more multiplayer games I'm never going to play.

Appreciate the bumper haul, I definitely think it needed it though because if you pick any 3 of those games for a standard month, It's looking very weak.

This month's smaller, indies titles on extra are some of the best we've had, it's a decent headliner or 2 away (I.E not another re-addition of gta 5) from being an all time banger month.

Surviving mars and arcade paradise are well worth playing, i's recommend them both.

Sonic and forspoken are both perfectly fine games.

Can't wait for gta to come back on to the service in about 6 months...

It's a mostly happy month, the filler comtent is strong it just lacks 1 or 2 headliners because they decided to give us GTA 5 once again. (I'd say who the hell hasn't got gta v that wants to play it, but it'll probably inexplicably be the most downloaded game of the month) premium is fine.

Guess we also know the first game leaving extra in February then too.

Hope it's technically part of November's additions. Don't want another Rockstar game eating all the budget for another month

As usual when we get a Rockstar re-addition, it shows in the rest of the monthly additions where the majority of the budget went.

I can see why many could be throughly underwhelmed by that but from my perspective, it's alright. I'll play pacific drive and talos principle 2.

Thank goodness you're here is absolutely fantastic if you've not played it, but I've gone through it multiple times and you can get through it within a few hours. Not really my thing but i may get round to still wakes the deep.

Those are all great supporting titles, just a shame the headliner is an absolute stinker.

I'm content with it but I wouldnt say its an objectively strong month and I don't feel like we've had one of those for a long time.

Best thing of the SoP

Looks like a ps2 big head cheat mode.

1 of the 2 genuinely interesting things from the entire show.

A 40 minute show for something that could and should have been a few blog posts.

The internet takes these quotes too literally. It's like they've never had a real life conversation sometimes. I take that to simply mean, the ps5 has plenty of life in it yet and isn't entering the end years, not neccesarily that we are precisely halfway through its intended life cycle.

40 minute run time, how many of those minutes will be dedicated to same looking anime style f2p games? I'm going 15-20 minutes.

Not played it but pleasing to hear. Proof that you can do a relatively bigger title on a smaller scale, sell it for less than full price and still make money.

Shows to me that all these titles that have bigger sales numbers and still dont turn a profit are doing it wrong and it's nothing but poor budgeting. Not everything needs to aim to be the biggest and best, there's room for all types.

Already being profitable is a good sign as it means they can green light the next game either in the series or something else from the same device team and they'll not have to worry about trying to recoup costs so they can bring it to the subscription services earlier which will earn them more money for doing so and will be pure profit.

The thing is, from the limited information they reveal, the data seems to show that its always one of the most popular titles every time its added.

Who these people are that have a ps+ extra subscription that want to play gta v that don't already own it or havent already played it via the numerous times its been on the service, i've no idea, i don't think i'd be able to find a single person fitting that criteria but they apparently exist in large quantities.

My personal opinion is it's a dreadful use of ps extra funding, it's exactly what I dont want to see from the service, if I was asked what don't you want to see on the service, my first answer would be the constant reintroduction of Rockstar games for limited periods, closely followed by double dipping across the tiers but I must be in the minority here.

Sadly, when a Rockstar game comes to the service, the rest of the titles that month usually noticeably suffer as clearly the budget has gone on that one game so brace yourself for a lacklustre month.

The numbers mean very little. The idea they offer definitive proof is ridiculous.

They could offer up an extremely short, very old title thats already been on ps+ in some form and is available for peanuts that happens to have a very high metacritic score. that high score doesn't mean in critcisms for it being extremely short, very old and a repeat title arent all valid. If they followed up that month with a game thats a meaty length, 6 months old, never been on the service and is still full price but it has a metacritic rating slightly below the previous offering, does that make the following month worse? Because the data would say so...

For the record, I dont think essential is getting worse. I think November is the weakest month of the year but overall it's been a very strong year. Unlike this article and way of thinking, which is very backwards.

I think its actually the worst month of the year, by some distance.

Stray has been on ps+ extra but its also a small, short indie title, it's not a headline worthy title at all. I also happen to think its a distinctly average game.

WRC is too niche to be on here imo much like all the other sports titles and racing games we get. It might be the best rally game ever made but unless you're into racing games, you'll probably never even try it.

T.A.B.S I have no interest in myself but I think thats fine as the third offering.

I dont play multiplayer games anymore, I sub to ps+ for the games and make use of the cloud saving. Buying a game and not having access to all its features without also paying for a subscription is farcical but there are running costs that need to be covered, we won't just get something for free.

if they drop the ps+ requirement, you'll probably see games jump in price ro compensate instead so I'm perfectly fine with them covering costs through a required ps+ sub.

They're very generous with their definition of "cult favourites" never heard of 'em.

It's the equivalent of £1.66 a month for premium, 1 title a month is more than justified for that price. If they start bringing more titles per month, regularly, it will have to be reflected in the price.

Inevitable it will be on ps+ relatively soon. At least if they're still patching and fixing it, it might not be a broken mess when they give it to us.

Crap month. Stray is not a bad game but it is not headline offering and we shouldnt be getting it anyway after its prior appearance on extra.

Is this them coming up with a false number to make it seem like a better offer or are they actually charging that much for practically nothing? Scandalous pricing.

Im a fan of a difficult trophy list, that just feels tedious more than anything. No platinum in today's world is wild

@Dyomun well not really because you cannot subscribe to extra or premium without paying for essential as well. Your point would only be valid if there was the option of subscribing to extra for just the extra catalogue and not essential too.

so when they double dip on offering the same games to different tiers, those of us subscribed long term to multiple tiers are getting access to something we've all already had.

Its a ***** practice that penalises those who invest the most money into the services. Its the same flawed practice as when companies give special deals to new customers only and existing customers get shafted.

Very disappointing, can only hope it isnt the headliner. Nothing I dislike more than them double dipping on tiers. Effectively punishes people who subscribe to multiple tiers long term.

No multiplayer is the correct call imo. Putting money and time into something that people will play for the novelty for a few days then ditch for something modern isn't worthwhile. Not convinced about the remake aspect, seems like they've gone to a fair bit of trouble but haven't gone full modern remake, for me you either do the bare minimum or go the whole hog and give it a complete modern remake.

Doesn't really matter either way though, it's the novelty of a Halo game on Playstation that will ensure it sells millions regardless.

@MrPeanutbutterz with the majority of games, you're only getting a platinum trophy if you actively try to get it. It's rare you'll ever get one naturally so near enough everybody getting them had aimed to do so.

The only example i have off hand and i think i'm right in saying toy story 2 got trophy support after its addition to premium. 5.7% of players have the platinum for that game according to playstation. That may look like a low number but thats 5.7% of the entire user base finding substantial, extra Bvalue in the game from something incredibly simple and virtually free to implement. Why wouldn't you want that extra engagement for such a small amount of work?

@Almost_Ghostly just because you don't care about them, It doesnt mean nobody does. A lot of people value trophy support. games that have been patched with trophies later on have seen significant upturn in engagement afterwards.

Surely there has to be plenty of data available to them by now that tell them trophy support adds significantly more engagement to these classics and should be mandatory on release for them all. Tekken 3 was one of the first games I had for ps1, i'll revisit it for the nostalgia but i'll do so once they've patched in trophies.

Happy with what is there. Unhappy with how much is there. Extra content gets smaller by the month. The days of getting over a dozen titles on that tier have long gone

Game is superb as are gambit and desperados 3. Such a shame they wont be making more.

Good month for me but as I said earlier with the partial leak, the number of titles is unacceptable, 8 in total across the 2 tiers when we used to get double that is crap. Should be a minimum of a dozen across both tiers, don't need to be all bangers either.

Not a fan of them re-adding titles, especially when there is so few, does nothing but hinder the people that have been subscribed long term.

Silent hill 2 and v rising makes it a good month for me.

Do hope there is more though, the constant dwindling of numbers each month has had very little coverage. compared to what we was getting around the time of the ps+ rebranding, we currently get about half the number of titles per month.

hopefully there is at least another 4 titles in extra, even if they're poor, filler titles, that number cannot continue to drop

Just awful management I'm afraid. Firstly, It apparently released as a very bare bones and unfinished experience, suicide for a live service game looking to build a strong, persistent number of users. The vast majority of gamers don't give a game a second chance if it ***** up the launch, 1st inpressions have to grip otherwise its curtains. Should have delayed until they're ready to put out something competent.

Also, if they launched into both ps+ and gamepass, taking big money in the process and are still racking up big losses, they've made huge financial errors. That money should be covering dev costs as a minimum.

I used to love battlefield, I'd play it relentlessly every release for months, i even really liked yhe much maligned Hardline but I'm just so far removed from online multi-player games now that this release and hearing that it's looking really good, doesnt even muster a seconds thought about playing it.

As sure as night follows day, it will be on ps+ at some point, battlefield is as safe a bet as the annual sports titles, that is the only scenario where I can imagine even contemplating giving it a shot.

We don't need a ps6 anytime soon. Nobody is pushing the limits of the ps5, a lot of games still run on ps4, the advancements in technology hasn't warranted a new system, plenty of 1st party studios havent even released a single native game on the system yet. Why would you want to bring in a new system in this economy that's not going to be very profitable? Does Sony really want you buying a multiple hundreds of pounds console with at best marginal profits and then having no money to purchase software? They'll probably be better served having you spent that money on their 1st party games for the existing console. Competition has all but ceased to exist now, Xbox arent a concern and Nintendo have just released their new console thats worse than sonys current so what's the rush? Milk the current console for all it's worth before moving on. Could easily have ps5 as most modern console into 2030.

Doesnt surprise me one bit. Casual gamers who literally only play a couple of games, have always been by far the majority anyway. Then add in f2p games, the rise of a subscription model service that makes far better financial sense and a global economic crisis leaving more people with less expendable income and those figures make perfect sense.

I play not literally, but as good as, daily, since the pandemic half a decade ago I've bought precisely 3 games, all on release, I've platinumed well in excess of 100 games in that time frame, probably closer to double actually. all the other games have come from ps+ via one of the tiers. I've near enough always got something i have an interest in playing waiting for me so why bother paying more money for anything else?

Did cocoon last night. Nice little gamr, short and easy but in a way that makes you feel smart for instantly knowing what to do. Going to muck around with goat simulator 3 now, perfect for the mood im in where I don't feel like getting into anything heavy with Alan wake 2 waiting afterwards when im ready to get into it. Great month.

That's a very quick addition. There are other, older, less celebrated 3rd party exclusives they have yet to bring to the service that you'd expect to come first so this is a big surprise but a very welcomed one

Wise decision not to do that. You'll lose a lot of potential sales making something require co-op.

Will have zero impact on Playstation regardless. Those that remain attached to Xbox will either buy the new one should it exist or they'll sign up for a console-less version of xbox however that may exist like gamepass. Those that aren't ingrained into the Xbox ecosystem have probably already shifted at least partly to playstation/nintento/pc.

All those fools that continually compared gamepass to ps+ with their constant cries of "where's our day 1 games" are going to be a bit quiet for the forseeable. $360 a year is an obscene fee. I pay £65 for a years worth of ps+ premium.

Sony were spot on sticking to their sustainable and affordable model. The only danger is their own greed sensing an opportunity to squeeze more money out of us.

What a blast from the past. I remember this guy from i want to say gametrailers?

He was basically just somebody who would make predictions, get them all wrong and everybody would laugh at how little he gets right. (it was almost impressive how much he got wrong, just the law of averages should have seen him get far more right)

I'm surprised the guy is still alive mebermind peddling the same nonsense. Where's he been all this time? Send him back.